Roman Reigns Wins Royal Rumble, WWE's Booking Continues To STINK

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[SPEAKER_01]: Leave me to do it, it is no pain!

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[SPEAKER_01]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back here, in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only way to cry, It not reach me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still on and about three weeks, episode 407 of Top Rope Nation, our last show, was with our friend Jeremy Feinstein talking Wrestle Kingdom and we've been off the air for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are back here on a Sunday morning coffee in hand to talk a little WWE Royal Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little AEW talk to keep Justin joint saying this morning, Justin how you do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been kind of spending this brief absence, catching up on cinema, been watching a shit ton of movies, been playing a lot of animal crossing, lost my ass on some turnups that I spent a lot of bells on, but yeah, it's been an interesting month or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Jesse has been keeping the content coming for us and he's been the MVP of the show lately because he has been putting out unplugged for patrons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there has been pretty much weekly content still dropping on the Patreon side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, Jesse, for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing this morning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: As I've been saying for the last like three weeks, I'm all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have been off the air so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan has the most facial hair on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I've even trimmed it a few times, but it's starting to come in again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I've been letting it go this winter for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, we haven't really addressed this on the main feed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, you've talked about it on unplugged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just been a lot going on, I won't bore you guys too much, but essentially here's what's been happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I also cover the Chicago Bears, they're on a playoff run, so I took a lot of my time doing that show, that writing over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie to you guys, the state of the world in this country right now is super depressing and if you're a good person with a brain, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, and you know, obviously nobody here is more impacted by that than Jesse who is like in the heart of things up in the Twin Cities right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to rant too much on this, but you know, here's what I'll say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If our government was deporting criminals and drug cartel members, we would be totally in support of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is clearly not what is happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that's what is happening, you're in a cult that is not what is happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't like what's happening to American citizens in our country right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like seeing the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th Amendment being trampled upon every single day in our country.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard to care about professional wrestling when real life is so in your face right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've been really kind of struggling with wanting to do shows, talking about wrestling because the state of the world is so dire right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so obviously we stand with the Twin Cities and Jesse and your family and just what your community is dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I would be super supportive of getting criminals out of our country.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not supportive of murdering U.S. citizens for exercising their constitutional rights and I'm not supportive of snatching kids who are not harming their community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been really hard to get my mind right just because I love this country and I don't like what's happening right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So real life has frankly been getting in the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so that's kind of where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would echo those exact same sentiments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's been very, very depressing and it's just hard to get up to talk about wrestling when that is case and frankly, you know, I think wrestling has been in a little bit of a funk of current wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they really hasn't been a whole lot much going on to draw us in, but hopefully we're out of, you know, our little dark period and we can start,

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[SPEAKER_02]: rise in and grind in again, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I talk about it every I've talked about it almost yeah every day in the month of January since Renee Good was murdered with someone is it's whether it's in Minneapolis or Saint Louis Park and just all of the community rally I think behind it has been tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should never have gotten to this point and I'll just kind of sum it up this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ryan nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say five to eight percent of the people you're looking for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've probably captured, which means there's over 90 percent of these folks at your apprehending or innocent people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's an absolutely disgusting display of humanity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even humanity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just gross.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very well said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to, we're going to try to keep our minds distracted by deep diving on pro wrestling again, especially now that, like, as far as I'm concerned, football season's kind of over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need some things to distract me and, you know, this is where wrestling and, you know, your hobby always comes in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're right there with us, you know, try to focus in on things that you like and get lost in those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we've done in the past and that's what we're going to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, continue to do here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we plan on coming at you regular again, also another thing is going on is I've been sick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't tell my voice is still not right two weeks later, it's horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like influenza mixed with like a cold going around

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still kind of stuffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my throat was really bad last week and there was just no way I was going to be doing a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, we were going to do the bear show and I canceled it because I just I could not talk for an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So getting hopefully getting healthy again here, I do want to throw just a special shout out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did get a new patron during a down period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that you have in us to get back on them because we will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are effectively the producers of Top Rope Nation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Royal Rumble was in a reod Saudi Arabia yesterday after noon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a bleacher report, watch along during the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I watched it, and it justans aware of what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Jeff, you watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a little group discussion going on in our discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, do you want to grade the show, A through F, format for us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would be your grade on the 26 Royal Rumble, PLI?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when you have zero investment in a product, it makes it a lot more fun to view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm being 100% honest, the only reason I'm dropping this one third of a grade is because of where this took place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you listen to my show, you know exactly how I feel about Saudi Arabia, and I mean, it's all over the news there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to go with a C+.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt there were moments in both rumbles that were solid, there were moments that stuck because that's par for the WWE's course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Styles and Gunther was a fun match I would highly recommend if you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you watch world listing entertainment and miss it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one to go see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll talk about the world title match later because I have a nice little point to make on that just how WWE fans don't pay attention to particular things and they should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So C++ is my grade for yesterday's real rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be a little lower than you, but also kind of in that C range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On BR gave it a C, I'm like C to C-minus on it, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, there was nothing I would ever watch on that show again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't give it a B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely no match of the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't get contenders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't give it a M-A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought, you know, you mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was worth watching?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to get erupted by the fence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the women's rumble I thought was mostly bad in boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a couple stretches that were entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they probably got the winner right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The men's rumble had some entertaining moments, but in the end it was I thought like a cop-out with the direction they went, the easiest path and not particularly interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Drew McIntyre and Sami Zayn was pretty much a total waste.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read something a friend sent me here about that here in just a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, yeah, Gunther and AJ was clearly the match of the night, and, you know, we can talk about AJ and what might be ahead for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm, I'm somewhat interested in where AJ Styles could take his career next, and at least for a few matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So our friend, Jason Smith sent me a message this morning that, you know, I know, her all friends and you guys might enjoy this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to read what he sent me on the air here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, J, is a patron of the show and a good friend of ours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said quote, I won't be able to listen to the pod live this morning, but if anyone left yesterday with any wrestling thoughts other than, oh yeah, a champ of fucking rules when motivated, I don't know what to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Samy's A and sold himself out to once again look like a putts and Saudi Arabia, WWE literally has nothing for me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually hope AJ Styles is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure where he fits in an AEW, but at some point,

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan is just going to have to basically be a third AEW show and share talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be more excited about how they presented Hobbes if I wasn't aware that their long-term marketing will never allow him and Femi to be stars at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's legitimately hilarious to me how all these people left AEW and two of the top stars are still Roman and Orton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get to the end of that rumble bunch of old guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the same, it's the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just start with the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I did a prediction video for Brie R and Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a predicted brown breaker to win because I thought brown breaker winning was the right choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's one of their few young guys who you actually have some momentum behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he didn't win the world title when he had a chance on raw, but you can get him right back in in the picture, have him win the royal rumble, you know, an all-time moment and then put him on the bat to WrestleMania and make a new star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is he 28 years old Jesse something like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's like in his late 20s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't really have any stars in their 20s on the mid-side right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would that would be a positive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you also have Obafemi, who I believe should have beat Cody Rhodes when they wrestle on Saturday night's main event, where are you going to lose, and Cody's going to lose nothing by that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you can put Obafemi over and shock some people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So put those two out there right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Braun Breaker gets eliminated immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking a lot of the entry out of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, and clearly, you know, they're running this store where he gets attacked by a guy wearing a mask or a hood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they want you to think it's Seth Rollins because he did all assess the moves, did the stomped, did the side kick, all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it could end up being Austin theory and the vision splits into factions, what, you know, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, he gets attacked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets thrown into the ring and immediately tossed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's, there's the guy that a lot of people thought was going to be in it at the end and he's immediately eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They give a little bit of Femi a lot of burn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He eliminates a lot of dudes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has this face off with Brock Lesnar at the crowd pops for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what happens, Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets tossed by Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And moments later, Wall J. Uso is making his entrance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Rhodes and LA Knight dump Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear, I can practically hear Pat Patterson rolling and cussing in his grave from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you remember Pat Patterson, he's sure like to cuss a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the the architect here behind the rumble, holy Christ, how what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of production values are you doing when you bring in Brock Lesnar?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then his elimination is basically like on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd doesn't even really notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, why the Frick would you not just have Oba Femi eliminate him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Cody and Ellenite dumping him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably going to do something with Oba and Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sure is Frick hope they are, but and by the way, I'm saying Frick, because my daughter might be cutting my cussing next door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, you know, do it in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the biggest shows of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is when you have the attention on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take it away, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you skipped over one of my favorite moments in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Russov at five was thrown out in 32 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Mysterio hits a six one nine and an oba just chokes lams him over the robes and he the look on his face when he was like amongst the guard rail with the with the fans there was his hysterical he's like this isn't what I signed up for yeah was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I felt that in spurts like oba family getting close to 40 minutes was a huge positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thought Javan Evans looked very good and he was out there for a long time as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But other parts where like Iliadragon off, I think, came in at 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was chopping the living life out of Brock Lesnar, Lesnar just no cells.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It shucks him over like a tiny little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really like that presentation either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mrs. in at 23.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's in there for like five or six minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He interrupts a oba Brock confrontation to so no I think the rumble is a hole and here's the weird oh I'll get to that one in a minute John hope the the weird thing to me was LA night coming out at 21 and at that time that might have been the biggest pop of the whole match

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[SPEAKER_00]: That guy's still over in spite of the fact that his booking has been a trotace too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not just getting this response in Saudi, he's getting it pretty much everywhere he goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just typical hunter booking, he just goes with who he likes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then another AW person is John Hope mentioned, Ray Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: gets tossed within 45 seconds after he jumps off the top ropes, lands and brox arms and he tosses like a little child.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One last one, Alistair Black was flown to Saudi Arabia, was supposed to be in the rumble, and they held him off because they wanted to bring his return back on a smack down instead of a royal rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's just laughable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they wanted to save that for Smackdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they bring out Mr. iguana who you could hear a pin drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of these Saudi fans had any clue who any of the AAA guys were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to know your audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like they had no friggin clue who this guy was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes no sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alistair Black would have made a hell of a lot more sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I saw here in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no fin baller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it bring out La Parca, you know, has been around forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got a little bit of a response mostly because he, you know, he's in WCW, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, you know, the crowd overall, I guess we talked about this too, it was pretty mid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had some moments where they got into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of empty seats there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It appeared, at least when I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I read that a lot of people were scalping tickets over there and they didn't sell and that's why there was so many empty chairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be a terrible environment for a wrestlemania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not looking forward to that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they don't care because they're getting paid up front and, you know, so the, you know, the attendance really doesn't matter to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kept thinking how this is perfectly illustrative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of the WWE business model right now and how they're sticking it to their long time fans and when are people going to smarten up and stop paying because here in the states they are absolutely raping you with ticket prices if you want to go to these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and overseas they don't even care if anybody goes because the murderous government is paying them off for these sports washing shows and it doesn't really matter over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But over here, attendance does matter and they're going to make you pay as much as humanly possible to go to the shows and it's just pretty disgusting, you know, across the board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was just a, I thought a bad environment for wrestling, you know, because the rumble just didn't feel to me this year like it had the hype it usually does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I usually get really excited for it no matter how down on WWE I have and I watch like the old rumbles to get ready for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had some discussion going in our discord about that this week, you know, like, Carl was really getting into a Nile and then we're talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just couldn't get into it this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had like zero, there was no moment for this show at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of it was that it was happening over there and it just kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: felt disconnected from the fandom I felt yes this is the first one I think I've never you know at least for quite a while is the first one I have not watched a single minute of and a big part of that is you know obviously we've been kind of down on the product for a while me especially but you know it was on a Saturday afternoon on a

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[SPEAKER_02]: service.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a service that I'm not going to pay for because I wouldn't give a shit about, you know, I don't, I'm not invested in WWE enough to do it and there's nothing else on that service that I want at least Peacock offers me a lot of other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: ESPN plus does not and I'm not going to do the work or pay the extra money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To find the Royal Rumble in the year 2026.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I found it quite hilarious triple H's comments after the show talking about how it's a new era in WWE and it's a passing of the torch But he you actually have to pass the torch in order to have a new era that the new guys got a win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just can't have a good showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't go all in with these younger guys and they continually lay back on the Estelle's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking about this yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is directly like late stage WCW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the ages of the guys that are on top, we all were watching in the mid-90s when they did the billionaire Ted Skits, 95, I think they'll start it airing, and they were talking about how old those guys were, and they had macho and the walker, you know, and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, they were like in their early 40s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's wild when you look at the ages of some of these guys that are out there, you know, like even Cody's 40, you know, or obviously older than that, punk a lot older than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, pretty much the entire top of the card is in their 40s, just like we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, you're not getting the, they have young talent, you know, we're not like down on the young talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obafemi's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brombraker, sky's a limit for this guy, but they're not going in all the way and pushing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think which is, which is frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel you have to do that on the biggest stages, just having a good showing doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People don't remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People remember who won, you know, so Roman winning, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roman Reigns doesn't need to win to get a WrestleMania title shot, you know, that's the thing is that it's not even really about that all these guys are in their 40s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's about they've been on top for like a decade plus, you know, it's we've just been watching basically the same match over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there was chatter that they were going to do fucking Roman Reigns and Cody again at WrestleMania, which I still wouldn't be surprised if they do boring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: boring, fresh, and things up, you don't do something new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And actually speaking on that, do you guys have any thoughts on who Roman Reigns will be facing that WrestleMania?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you just, does any of those matches appeal to you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to me like punk would be the option, Roman and punk, which we basically just saw at last year's WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that that's what I see happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you, Josie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch Seth Rollins get healthy in time and they wrote it back because that's what we do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's I will and here's the other thing Roman Reigns now, 2015 and 2026 winning those royal rumbles and those are now going to be looked at as two of probably the eight worst row rumbles in the history of the promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're you're just forcing a guy down our throats and oh we didn't get into this one uh Romans comments on social media the last couple of days been openly crapping on triple h and just saying uh just look at the last two years when I've been gone in a part timer and you've had all this time to get someone new in there and and be in the main event uh but you got to bring me back to save things again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like half-k-fave, half-joking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was probably more so-k-faving than everything else he was telling the truth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go one more two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Penta came in at 28 to zero pop as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what was your favorite?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Penta's doing fantastic in WWE moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Phoenix also got the WWE on draught a pop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to mention that because yeah, you could hear a pin drop there too Oh, we should get into this one too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Royce keys powerhouse Hobbes Ryan you can go into the presentation of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Royce is the name of his youngest son and keys is the maiden name of his mother So that's why they renamed him, but the presentation with them actually showing powerhouse Hobbes on the tight and trot first

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also, I wanted to throw a shout-out because we got a super chat that just came in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Figgy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He appreciated our opening thoughts, FIs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are welcome, sir, and appreciate your support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for tuning in today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was pretty vocal on Twitter about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand, like I read it like everyone did afterwards, where the name comes from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: rice keys and the noddo is sun in his mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that, you know, from a human perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean it's a good name, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my bigger problem is how they do this with guys where they make them change their name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Hobbes has been in the business since like I believe 2009.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He started wrestling literally right after

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you've built, you spent years of your career building up a name and then you acknowledge the name on the Titan Trond?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you change it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, that's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people were in our mentioned saying, well, at least they acknowledge who he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, but why not just keep the name then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird to me to be like, hey, you know this guy, he's powerhouse ops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's not that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's rice keys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have an established name, keep the name and there's some people that they have allowed to keep their name coming in, like Ray Phoenix, like Ethan Page and other people where they gave them dumb names like Blake Monroe or Ricky Saints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they want to own everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at some point, it's like, you know, also doesn't it matter when someone has built up a name in the industry and you want to like keep that continuity?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know, it's a nice homage to his family, but it doesn't mean it's a good name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the greater point is WWE, you know, having to change everyone's character and what's been working for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they were smart enough when Cody came back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let him keep using the same character he had built outside of WWE, even using the same theme song that he got outside of WWE because they recognized it worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just don't, I don't like the name, they acknowledge he was powerhouse hops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also thought it was kind of questionable to debut him over there when, um, you know, that's another problem of doing the show in Saudi Arabia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know how much of a familiarity the audience would have with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they, they reacted a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A. W. Is on TV over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, is it probably not as big of a response as you would have gotten states.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, he was out there for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't anything to write home about that one for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of hops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been very complimentary to him on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told the story about how like girls met him at a collision by the year and a half ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was super nice to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a really hard worker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That collision show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was not even on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was when he was coming back from his injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he sat like on a stool by the hard cam over there, watch almost the entire show, just out in the open, just trying to learn, trying to take in the shows the only wrestler over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that they made him change his name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he had some say on the name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if it works or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think Powerhouse Hobbes is a great name, and it's unfortunate that they made him change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you go back to his real name, Will Hobbes stick with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated the, let's show his name for about 10 seconds where I was like, oh, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are going to call him that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they take a right off and go into Royce keys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, no one, there wasn't really many people that knew who he was from the crowd response, either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was kind of odd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Cardona also thrown out in like 45 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was also going to say in the name thing, there was a lot of people in our mentions and social like, well, why do you care?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean it's just a name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The your whole character's built on the name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Steve Austin would have been who he was if they went with ice dagger?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean the name matters a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It matters a lot in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you have to get that right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you had a name that really works well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you acknowledge the name and then you don't go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, Matt Cardone came out, you know, whatever he's getting paid, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, who else was that going to match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there was the other like young guy that maybe they could have made something as the match dragged on and he had all these older dudes in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, who actually has a chance to win that would be interesting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Jacob Fattu was out there for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've been super high on him too, but until, you know, last year, when towards the end of the year, they had him losing, well, I see it was the summer, losing to solo Sikowa, you know, who is just a total non-factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never going to be a main eventer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I've always felt that Jacob Fattu should be booked like Goldberg just destroying everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he was out there for quite a long time, I believe he was like the fifth to last guy eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, okay, maybe the gold Jacob Fattu and do something exciting in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he got dumped and our final four that we were left with was Roman, Gunther, Randy Orton and Logan Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there I was like, all right, I guess Gunther would be my pick, but like none of that was very inspiring whatsoever, you don't want Logan Paul the win the Royal Rumble, you know, Randy Orton at 47 years old and no, so I thought Roman winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was unspiring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, him throwing the booking under the bus this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that played it to it at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was kind of entertaining to me off screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, in the end, I just kept thinking about like, here's a guy went in the rumble 11 years after he first won it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like drawing the comparisons in my head, be like, Hogan winning it in the 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, or like Austin winning it around 2010 or so, a little bit before that, he doesn't need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is one of those things where you can go all in with the younger guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really have any more thoughts other than I just thought it was a it was a crutch and an easy direction to go rather than, you know, trying to maybe take a little risk and go with the younger guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Solosacoa at three by the way thrown out within a minute or two by with a Femi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least it was open Femi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: True.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, that just goes to show you where his stock is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there it's absolutely ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to rebuild these people when they are because knock down a pedestal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go one more and then we can close this Finn Baller people were talking about him being in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I want him there when he's one two singles matches in the last two and

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to present him as a world-tile contenter to see him punk at elimination chamber in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pepper's farm never forgets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The women's rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's been a lot of time on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest pop of the night, maybe, was the return of Brebella.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you got that iconic theme song, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did your daughter's pop?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they did not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Frankly, they're not really, I mean, like they know I think know who she is, but like when she was wrestling, they weren't even really around or watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, it's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, whatever, it's fun to see her, I guess, but the match was like super boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were in that discord talk and it's like, this is just, this is not doing it at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Liv Morgan makes sense as the winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been a constant in the division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been one of the tap stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's usually been solid and royal rumbles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I, I thought her winning was was a good pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jessie had predicted it on unplugged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Makes a lot of sense, but yeah, I mean, there wasn't really anything to write home about in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, I was bored to tears, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were two performances that really stood out to me, and I'm happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Flash legend, I think she came in the middle of the match, and she eliminated a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte Flair, I think, what she eliminated, I mean, real Ripley, I think she took out, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There, no, that was Raquel Rodriguez to took her out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ripley eliminated last legend, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, she was eliminated by Raquel and then yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she took out EOS sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some people in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was she eliminated the Bella's also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're trying to make you take notice to somebody new.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She definitely has a good look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: now I just hope she just continues to further the character and the other one is the obvious one because she was in the final three and arguably my favorite young talent on the WWE roster and that soul group at ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was tremendous in the match as well and I really liked the ending sequence with Live Soul and Tiffany Stratton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then outside there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two weird ones that did not show up, I was convinced Bianca Bellar was going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did not come in and then we'll go back to the men's match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where was Chris Jericho?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is apparently still under contract A, W. They must be just dragging out that contract because he's still on the roster page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been a tell with them if they take them off the roster page to minute that contract's up and he's still on the roster page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they must just be making him wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's gonna end up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody questions that, but he would have got a big response from that crowd, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather have them debut there, redabue there than have powerhouse hops

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[SPEAKER_00]: true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would it mean a lot more sense there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, like I mentioned earlier the lack of response.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the NXT people didn't get hardly any response at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some did, you know, but some of had some exposure on the main roster here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, soul Rooka got a really positive response from the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She, yeah, she's one of those people, skies a limit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the women's side, they do have a lot of young stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that's by necessity though because 20 years ago they weren't pushing women in the same way So you obviously you're gonna have a younger roster versus like Randy Orden who's been around since 2002 or whatever and you know, he's still there But yeah, you get down to the the last four so it was live Tiffany Stratton

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[SPEAKER_01]: Soul Rooka and Raquel Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was your final four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ripley got eliminated right before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She would have been the fifth to last and then last legend was before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eosky was out there for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she got a good amount of time in the rumble and that was I think pretty predictable going in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She would get a lot of bird in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, other than that, I don't really have any thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was there is a moment with

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar and Kyrie sane where they did like an elimination spot with them, which was like one of the weakest-looking eliminations for seat-inner rumble, which is like very casually dumped her out to the outside, and they played into the heat of them a little bit as friends, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there wasn't a lot to write home about in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of new names at least, I guess if that's your thing, but I think right winner, at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have as many qualms with the winner here as I did with the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the men's side or even like who was left at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they did a better job on the women's side with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of funny things in there too with Maxine Perez looking like or a Maxine, do pre looking like an astronaut power Ranger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the full body suits that's another Saudi Arabia thing that I hate uh... wait bear it calling nattie nattalion michael colgles it's not nattalia weighed it's nattie does anybody really care the bell is eliminating lyra valkyria in bayley

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was, that was interesting to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lyrus, someone you would like on the up and up, and I would like to see Bailey and A and A, but you please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping she leaves towards the middle or the tail end of 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that looks to be all that, I, oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when Bree was doing all of her offense and all the crowds chaining, yes, yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Cole says, you know who she's paying homage to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he sees stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was it was like by proxy Brian Danielson was the most over person on the crowd or on the show to this crowd because of the yes chance for Marie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, that was kind of entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm the madman mentioned Charlotte eliminated Alexa that's a story Yeah, they can lean into that for sure

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know Alexis great we've been high on her on the show since 2017 or something you know she's always doing good stuff so anything else here let's let's let's talk about the future for AJ styles so AJ lost predictable and you know I think we all thought he was going to lose the gun they're going in

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll bring Justin in the conversation here because you know now there's talk about could he end up in a w could be a short run with a w just a few matches could he end up full time there could he go to new Japan could he go to TNA maybe could do some stuff in Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He took off his gloves then he went back and put him back on then on the post show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peter Rosenberg, almost tried to make AJ look like an asshole if he wrestles again, or he's like, oh, I, you know, I think AJ is a man of his word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be done here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like they were going out of their way on the post show to make it seem like, boy, if this guy wrestled this again, he's a real trader to you fans, which is really odd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, do you want to see AJ Styles wrestle again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And do you want to see him in any of those places?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I listed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's some interesting matchups that he could have in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got no interest in a TNA run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought somewhere he said post-show AJ that he was done, that he didn't want to keep going and possibly be a shell of himself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to kind of go out on top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I didn't hear about the Rosenberg part of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a shithead he is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, there are some very intriguing matchups he could have in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think another big match against Kenny Omega would be interesting, something against someone younger, like a Kyle Fletcher, could be really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there is a lot of intriguing stuff there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd certainly be more interesting to me than Tomasa Champa in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, it would certainly freshen things up for AJ, who's had an incredibly stale, like what five years in WWE, truly has not been interesting until this last past half of the year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, if I had a bet, I would say he's done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there are some matches in AEW, I would like to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the, uh, I'll throw just here in sec, but the Rosenberg quote I have in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is what Rosenberg said on the post show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a quote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just to be clear, because I know AJ went back into the ring, he went up there, took in a second round of applause.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I spoke to AJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is it for AJ Styles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not the kind of guy who goes back on his word when he said he's having a match with his career on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he will wrestle again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's money to be made with a handful of AW matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to end up there full time and be wrestling every week, but I think he's a guy who will wrestle a handful of matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Osprey match would be huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Omega, you know, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned the fletcher would be a cool match for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that there's

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see him there full time, but I do want to see him there in spurts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that would be worth doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the AW stars were outspoken on social yesterday about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Osprey put out a tweet that all said was phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you could read that as I was just a tribute to him, but, you know, I think that I think it makes a lot of sense for him to work a handful of matches now that he has Assuming they're freedom to do so, but I don't think it would be a full time kind of thing, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with Will, AJ was his inspiration to get started in the pro wrestling business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the few self-professed TNA fans from the get-go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was, yeah, I mean, he would like to face him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As long as Tony Khan doesn't rearrange AEW booking for this guy, you can get him in there for a handful of matches and call it good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to do with WWE do with John Cena and put a full focus on him for the full year and delay a lot of the younger talents as we've seen with Oben all that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a few matches in here and there would be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have to fire this coat off from a author John Listery didn't ECW book back in the mid 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is effing tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I see the guy who lost to Gunther never gave up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unlike the guy who sold shirts sing never

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he sold that way better than John Cena, you know, that finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the one thing on the show that is, you know, definitely worth going on of your time to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All my grades up for Patrons later today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's look good these last three months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with I still actually do I want to go back and watch his match for Sessions gay knock a morat Saturday night's main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have heard positive things about it The one in rare time were knock a morat head is working boots on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool just to see him flash it back one last time And then I just lost my train of thought I was gonna make a joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, get to it Well, let us know if it comes back to you

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[SPEAKER_02]: AJ could definitely be that special attraction, basically just treat them like they did sting in a view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think it's going to be too enticing for him as an athlete to not want to work on match with Osprey, to not want to come in and maybe do something with Omega, whose career is wrapping up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially on a big stage, you know, on a whimbley or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we will see him again, I just think it'll be limited, but I think that's how it should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we'll see, yeah, I mean, the only other thing on here was Drew McIntyre beating Sami Zayn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have any thoughts on that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I thought, no, maybe if they're wanting to shake the boat, they could put the title on Sami Zayn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's had a couple moments in his career where you could make that case, especially elimination chamber a couple years ago up there in Montreal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've never gone in on that and I just really don't have any confidence that they would ever go all in with Sami Zayn at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he ended up looking like a putts again in Saudi Arabia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it was, to me it was a pretty much nothing match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was not into this one much of all Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to look lesser than any way because of as I've stated numerous times Drew McIntyre's inability to defeat anybody above him without interference, especially five shots at this title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That title is looking inferior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think it's not going to look that good going into WrestleMania as it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a poke fun at people on social media because it's always fun to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're your younger fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That call Sammy Zane, Sammy Hogan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's over 12 against Drew McIntyre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See you, Hogan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sammy Hogan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we like drew a lot too, but his booking has been so bad that it's it's just hard to take him as the champion, which was another reason why it's like, you know, if you want to put the title and say, me saying certainly believable that he would beat Drew McIntyre right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does appear lesser than right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is why I think Roman's going to be going after punk, and that's a much bigger marquee match anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they could think of throw a wrench in this and do something at elimination chamber and change the whole trajectory anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, that title picture's pretty dire over there, pretty dire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not not super interested in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the whole WWE booking, the last several months, Hunter is getting criticized like crazy, and it is well deserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well deserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to get this thing right because things are dying right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, J.U.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So takes two full minutes to get into the ring and then Roman dispatches him in like three minutes and the crowd goes absolutely ballistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was so kind of fun to see, but just goes to show you that he is an entrance merchant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm nervous that trick Williams is going to become an entrance merchant too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was joking on the the Leach report stream about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, is he going to start the entrance again mid match and sure enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They tried to do it, but then he got hit by Roman and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty much the rumble you guys was four matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The two big ones and two singles matches that that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can let us know your thoughts in the comments on this video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can choose the email top information at gmail.com is the way to get a hold of us real quickly here before we wrap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomaso Chapa, Justin, you mentioned him coming into AEW and he became the TNT champion on collision last night, defeating brisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually haven't had a chance to watch the match yet, but I saw positive reviews of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are very up and down on the channel, but come in and just as you mentioned, you know, maybe not so excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give us your thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, somebody in our discord asked me how I felt about it and it was a zero for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, we talked about AJ Styles being dull for five years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit, Tomasa Champa has basically been non-existent in my world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, having said that, I did watch some wrestling yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not the Royal Rumble, but I did watch Collision.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chompel looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He looked really really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's concerns about Ken's body hold up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he is a good wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I really do wonder if he has just been kind of on cruise control checked out for the past five years, not been able to do anything truly interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, if we get a fully engaged Chompel in a W, then I am a little curious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I

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[SPEAKER_02]: stunned that he's already the TNT champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched that match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now not the greatest litmus test of where Champa's at because Mark Briscoe, I've said many times, it's probably the best in-ring guy in the world right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can get a great match out of anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I am curious to see how things

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[SPEAKER_02]: are going forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say the TNT championship has never felt more entrenched in the mid-car than it does right now, which is not a great look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to John Hope for the Super Chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Swerve on Droughta, fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're one of his TNT match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to really motivate it on Droughta right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He left, went back to WWE, saw the grass wasn't greener, came back and he is super engaged right now too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really things where when he's coming over, he's not going to be a main eventer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not everyone needs to be a main eventer, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, if you're strengthening the work rate in the midcard and you just got a ton of dudes that can make the TNT title, that work rate title, I have no problem with that, you know, if Champa, Champa to me too, has been a guy who I haven't really paid much attention to since like 2019, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not all his fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's the booking that they dragged on that gargano if you'd way too long after they had the outstanding first match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm open to seeing what he can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The theme song is terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Presentations been really good so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I think as a mid-car and work rate guy, he's totally fine there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't hate the signing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm looking forward to checking out the match here later to the exam have chance to watch it yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yet Chris mentioned in the chat, black and gold fans are watching 80, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have this in 2019.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw a lot of people move over from NXT to AWS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watching both at the same time on NXT was still somewhat interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but Triple H took away when he got to the main roster, what made him somewhat special in NXT and that is his ability to talk and give him a really good character to run with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just felt very vanilla for the last six years on the main roster and they've already given him two promo segments on Dynamite and Collision and he delivered, I mean he has the ability to deliver when you give him something interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are concerns about his body, especially in a W when there's a lot more demand to work in that ring than there is in the WWE so there's always going to be concerns about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing you cannot say is that the guy is in bad shape because as I stated, and I've seen it for the last two years, I actually know the nutritionist that works with Champa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a very motivated tomato champ of much like on dry day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did watch that match this morning right before we got on the air swirven on dry day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll recommend going back to watch it if you haven't

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[SPEAKER_00]: seeing those two guys get a new lease on life and let's just hope that they continue to go forward with it and Tony Conbook some appropriately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's really all that matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do I see champion as a championship level entertainer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't, but again, maybe that international TNT really good filler and just gives a lot of people someone that they have enjoyed over the last 15 years with his Sicilian killer gimmick as well in Ring of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we see these A, W paper views that are always stacked, and this is one of the reasons why they can keep you engaged in a show for four hours because the middle of the card is so strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So bringing in more guys that can work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have no problem with that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's not going to be a main event guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not supposed to be a main event guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've seen people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I responded to one of them on our Twitter page last night where they're talking about, oh, I, you know, I checked who has all the men's championships in AWS and they five of these guys are 37 or older, but you know, the thing is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: main event scene versus midcard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any problems with older dudes working for midcard titles like a champa, especially when it's just supposed to be a work rate title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the future of the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the big differences between WWE and AEW into what we were talking about earlier with WWE's top of the card being so old right now and this

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[SPEAKER_01]: inability to elevate guys into the main event scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at who have the top titles and you look at what I would say are kind of like the solid main event guys surrounding those titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at it at AEW, you have MJF who's 29 years old as their world champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at kind of the top tier workers who could potentially step in and challenge for the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman 34, Swarth 35, Osprey 32, Omega's doing a last run thing he's 42, Fletcher 27, Darby 33, Moxley here and there 40, O'Cotta 38.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, that's a really young top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in WWE, you got champions that are 47 and punk, McIntyre who's 40,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the top of the card is Roman who's 40, Cody who's 40, Gunther who's 38, Orton who's 45, Brock who's 48, Seth who's 39, and then possibly Braun could get their he's 28, you know, he's one of those kind of like shining lights if they do elevate him, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just, you know, there's just no comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't make quips about, oh, you're comes to Muzzle, Joe, but he's 40 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he's not being brought in to be at the top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's different than bringing in Brock Lesnar to be in the world title picture at 48 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're Orton and hanging around at 45.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a totally different booking scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where WWE's having problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why they got to elevate Oba Femi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why they got to elevate Brock Breaker to kind of shake things up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can Oskate Takeshita 32 years old, too?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, Takeshita, another guy, who could be in that mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think, I think if you're looking for younger talent, there's no question AW's words at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting the push over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So our next flagship will probably concentrate more heavily on AW so that we can keep just insane with us and put them on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll look for that, you know, next week, and we'll probably be breaking down what's been happening on TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, you spurs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta watch them get their asses beat by man's city.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Justin's gotta hard out here, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 seconds, I got an unplugged dropping this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover John Cena versus AJ Styles from the 2017 Royal Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the third installment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's very pertinent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going on right now with one of them, fully retired, the other one, possibly retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go way back in the TRN archives, you can find probably our review of that show in 2017.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to scroll back away, but we were doing this show back then, so you can also compliment Jesse's review by going back and seeing what we said in the moment that would be interesting as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Jesse's been doing a 52 week match project this year, so every week, it's a classic match that happened during that calendar week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh guys we've had a uh we've definitely had a lot of uh viewers this morning which has been really cool to see we've had a lively chat more people watch and lie than we usually have and so appreciate all of you guys Chris sand thanks for the episode the drift list is thinking about our Minnesota neighbors f-i-s always appreciate you Chris long time supporter this show

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been episode 407 Top rope nation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you all next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take care, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a great week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace!