The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 120 - Jenn Smith (New Album)

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And we are live, Mr. Gracey. Show 120. 120. Let's

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go. Joe Rogan experiment, baby. He’s coming

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on today? Yes, yes, yes. Hey, man. I guess I

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got to try that alcohol. I don't know. Hey, we've

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got a good guest today, Jenn Smith. Stoked. Brilliant

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recording artist. Her new record is really good.

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She has some cool songs, man. Totally. It's more

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like Lana Del Rey -ish. Yeah, man. Yeah, so it's

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cool. And, of course, she's a manager at Think Loud

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Studios, one of our TikTok managers in the agency.

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yeah does a really great job with that as well

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so we're excited to have her back on and talk

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to her out of course she's easy on the eyes as

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well so you know that always helps yeah uh check

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her out on tiktok jen smith two n's in the gen

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and then that new album inside thoughts uh is

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the name of the album find it on spotify apple

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music all that jazz um I went through, I was

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listening to it and cause we had her on, you

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know, a couple of months back and she had that

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song mirror mirror, which was like a heavier

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song. But this album, like you said, it's like

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Alana Del Rey is like soulful. And even though

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mirror mirror is on there, there's a lot of,

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it's like a real soulful album. It's kind of

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cool. She's got a haunting voice uses falsetto.

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Great. And lyrics are cool. That's cool to see

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the range that she has for sure. Yo, Chad, I

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want to talk about like, Walgreens sent me a

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text yesterday, bro. And it said, health alert

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from Walgreens. The updated COVID -19 vaccine

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is available at Walgreens for eligible individuals

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ages three and older, bro. Why are you still

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pushing this fucking money, baby? Fucking money.

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And I think the masses are still in denial that

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it's fucking injuring people. It's just fucking

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wild. Who was the latest guy on Rogan? They were

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just talking about this. I'm still listening

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to the episode. But they were talking about this.

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It's known now. There's study after study coming

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out showing that it causes all kinds of fucking

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crazy side effects. And they're still pushing

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it on people. And people are still taking it.

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It's like, you don't believe in science. are

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it's a religion at this point it's like dogma

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you have to i gotta fucking do it they told me

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to do it but it's showing the real evil side

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of capitalism like how can you as a company probably

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one of the biggest pharmacies in america still

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be peddling this shit when okay maybe you don't

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know a hundred percent that it's killing people

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but you have a doubt or there's fucking major

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major doubts that it is and you're pushing it

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the way you are you're part of the problem So

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I think like Luigi Mangione, by going out and

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killing this, you know, healthcare guy that that

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was wrong, but maybe you need to start hitting

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these people, you know, in their pocket and start

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like boycott their brand fucking something. That's

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going to make them wake up and say that people

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are fed up with it. They, they know you're trying

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to kill them. Like there's gotta be a way, you

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know, void of going and killing the CEO or damaging

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their property. There's got to be a way to make

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them realize you cannot do this shit to American

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citizens. We're hip to you, and you should be

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taking care of us as you're one of the biggest

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pharmacies in America. We should be able to trust

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you. I agree with that. Walgreens, CVS, they're

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all doing it. But on the other hand, it's like

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the people that are getting it either don't know

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or don't want to fucking know. They're still

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going back and getting it. I mean, there's still

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demand for it, obviously. It's a little bit of

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they keep pushing it so people keep getting it

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too. And study after study now has come out and

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said it doesn't work. It doesn't stop you from

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getting it or transmitting it. What the fuck

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are you doing? Yeah, you're literally just putting

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something in your body that will not help you

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but could possibly kill you. Or give you crazy

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side effects, yeah. Strokes, cancer, myocarditis.

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It is proven that it does those things, and yet

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you're still getting it. Because, I mean, they

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built COVID up. It's the same thing with Trump.

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COVID got to be so fucking scary. It's the biggest

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boogeyman in the fucking world. If you get it,

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you're going to die, which is bullshit. And that's

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how they do it. They sell you on the shit, man.

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It's crazy. Trump is the big, bad boogeyman.

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Everything he does is bad. Oh, my God. Like at

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this point, if you're still taking it, because

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you got to think like there's got to be people

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that aren't on the Internet and literally just

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pay attention to, you know, mainstream media

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or read newspapers like the older population.

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So there's a lot of people that could still be

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duped by it. And shame on these companies for

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fucking like it's out now. We know what the fucking

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problems or potential problems are for this vaccine.

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And you're still trying to push it. I'm fucking

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kids, man. Three years. of the age or older like

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what why man it was never this was cova was never

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a problem for kids ever right the whole fucking

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time right and yet you're trying to say it's

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good for three -year -olds like my god it should

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be i mean if you're if you as a parent give that

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to your child you should be this is child abuse

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because it's like you're just basically i mean

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let's we haven't even mentioned the facility

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the fertility problems it causes right right

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i mean 100 % miscarriages low fertility like

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you know people can't get pregnant anymore it's

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just and it'll be it's study after study keeps

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coming out coming out coming out and that i i

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mean i guess the mainstream media the the people

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the tv that everyone watches apparently you know

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doesn't talk about it so therefore they don't

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know or don't care i don't know it's fucking

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but you got still people wearing masks Same thing,

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but at least that's harmless. You know what I'm

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saying? Like it might be, but it's the mindset

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though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just nuts,

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man. I want to give a shout out. So just so the

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audience knows out there, Chad and I do not make

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up like the top fans of the gracious too. That's

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something like Facebook puts out. So I want to

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give a shout out to Phil Jones, who is one of

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our top fans, but was not included on that list.

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It's just something Facebook puts out, I think

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by like engagement or something like that. But

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we know we have a lot of top fans out there and

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that's just the Facebook thing. So don't take

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it personally. It made you and I the top fans?

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No, well, they thought you and I were picking

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the top fans, but it's Facebook picking them.

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And yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're all top fans

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in our eyes, but that's just Facebook's thing.

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And then 23andMe, I mean, this was a while ago,

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but. Do you remember they were selling, like

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if you went and sent in your DNA to figure out

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like who, you know, like where your ancestors

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were from and stuff like that, they're selling

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that DNA information. And I wonder who they're

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selling it to and what they can do with that.

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And that's not something you were thinking about

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when you were signing up for it. Thank God I

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never did. But, you know, you think you're giving

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your DNA to find out who you're from. You're

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not saying like, oh, you have. the rights to

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my dna to now sell it and now somebody could

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potentially clone me with this like that's crazy

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yeah i don't know i mean it could be cloning

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but also like they're selling it to private companies

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i think china's involved in probably buying some

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of it like but what i i heard one theory that

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at some point they'll down the line they'll be

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able to individually engineer something that

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can kill just you right a weapon that could just

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send it to your signal that could fuck up your

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dna and then yes you're done And you're like,

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okay, so how does that work with a president

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or a senator or a congressman or someone like

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a Charlie Couric, for instance? You can just

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go now, I'm sending a virus right to this person

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that will attack their DNA specifically, kill

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no one else. How would anybody know? Do you think

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it's like crazy sinister, Chad, that 23andMe,

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the company, was made to just actually get that

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information and then the sub side of it was like,

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oh, we're going to tell your ancestry. But in

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all reality, they wanted people to just hand

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over their DNA so they could bioengineer a weapon

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to fucking pinpoint them and boom, you're done.

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There could be that sinister element to it. I

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mean, I think it just started as people wanting

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to know their... their background and where they

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came from and you know their genealogy of like

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where their you know ancestors came from yeah

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but of course like anything you can twist it

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into something evil so here we are god dang it

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i know um i'm a bitch someone a bitch is right

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uh you know i'm saying hi to troy he said hello

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to me hi troy hi everybody uh not i don't want

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to switch gears But I do want to show this one

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thing on 9 -11. And it's with the video you made

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me watch, Chad, when we were at the studio in

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York. Mr. Wieldon from the FDNY. The folks that

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read this. He was on Tucker. Yeah, this is cool.

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Come down. Sort of claps in on themselves. Implode,

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it looked like. And a lot of people have said,

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many credible non -crazy people have said that

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was controlled demolition. Was it? So just real

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quick, he's talking about the towers being controlled

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demolition. Then he's talking to the chief of

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the FDNY that day, who I think became a congressman

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or something. But just to set it up a little

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bit. I mean, when you have 3000 people die, you

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would think it would be a full massive investigation,

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not going after 9 -11, obviously. But what happened

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to the buildings and why they come down? They're

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the only high rise buildings in the world. that

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have ever come down from an airplane hitting

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them. And those buildings, I read the report

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from the architect who designed them. They were

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designed to withstand an airplane hitting the

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building and standing tall. And especially Building

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7, which had no plane hit it. Right. No plane

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hit it. And the building just, you can see it

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when you watch it on TV, it just implodes straight

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down. And what really got me again was the Oriole

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Palmer, the battalion chief. Tell us who he was.

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So this is telling, Chad. So listen, so he's

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talking about one of the chiefs of that day gets

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to the floor impact, floor 78. And then he radios

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down that we got this. This is controllable.

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And then a minute later, the buildings collapse.

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And he goes, and this guy, Mr. Willimer, there

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he goes. They don't give a report like that unless

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they are 100 % certain that they can handle this.

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Because they're putting their fellow men in jeopardy

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if they're wrong. He goes, so the fact that he

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was so sure means something fucking happened.

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Oreo Palmer was one of the most inspirational

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battalion chiefs in New York. FDNY. FDNY, who

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immediately, in very good shape, had a family,

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a couple of kids, went in the building as soon

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as they got on the scene, took the elevator up

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to the 40th floor, got off the elevator, and

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you can hear him on the comms system say, I'm

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here, 40th floor, we're going to start walking

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up the stairwells. Every five floors, he radios

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back to communication. I'm on the 50th floor.

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Everything's okay. We're on floor 60. Everything's

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okay. He's going up every so many floors. He

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gives a report. He reaches the 78th floor, the

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floor of impact. He comes out of the stair tower.

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And as clear as you listening to me here, and

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I know I get passionate and I apologize to your

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listeners for that. He says, we're on floor 78,

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the floor of impact. We've got two fires and

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we can handle them. One minute later, the whole

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building collapses. That's not normal. That is

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not acceptable. That is not what happened. And

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this is on tape? It's on tape. The film is called

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Bravo 7. And if your viewers want it, if they

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contact you, I'll give it to you. It's free.

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It was produced not by Hollywood. It was produced

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by firefighters. Crazy, bro. Can't rely on Hollywood.

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Right. But I mean, this is somebody who has,

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you know, was in the FDNY for a very long time

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and knows like if somebody is giving an order

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like that or a command like that, that they are

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certain because they would not put people's lives

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in jeopardy. So that's fucking telling, man.

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And it's scary. Our guest this year was here

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in the green room. We'll be with you shortly.

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Jen got a fun show with Jen. Oh, we got to talk

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about, we got to talk about that scene emails

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before we go to Jen. I mean, you know, it's a

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big topic right now and it's completely and utterly

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backfiring on the Democrats. It's fucking hilarious

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to watch as we knew it would, but they were,

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we got to put out the fuck, you know, they care

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so much about it now because they think they

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got some gotchas for Trump, but here we go. Chad,

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before we play that, you sent to Bobby, I want

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to play one of president Trump, just going to

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talk about that. And then we'll go to that one

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real quick. Listen to what President Trump says

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here, because it's very fucking important. With

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Epstein, the Democrats do. All of his friends

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were Democrats. You look at this Reid Hoffman,

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you look at Larry Summers, Bill Clinton. They

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went to his island all the time. And many others

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are all Democrats. All I want is I want for people

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to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing,

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on affordability, because we brought prices way

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down, but they go way lower. on energy so he's

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basically saying he doesn't want this to detract

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from all the good stuff going on right now because

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yeah this is in the past but you know it's a

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democrat problem democrats lost their fucking

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stupid ass government shutdown and the day the

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day the government opens is when they start putting

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out these fucking bullshit doctored emails i

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don't know they were they were retracted Virginia

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Giuffre's name was retracted specifically because

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we already know that she said in her deposition

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and in her book that Trump did nothing wrong

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with anybody that she ever saw. Bam. See you.

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Bam. so so chad i mean so they left out that

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name they redacted it because it would be telling

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yeah because she already said like i met him

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numerous times he never did anything inappropriate

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but if you just read that email and and the redacted

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name it says in there like trump didn't bite

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he's been with this individual all day he won't

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take like so it it did it in the article it says

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right then and there like the headline is a bunch

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of bullshit this is the actual fact Yeah. And

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it's crazy, man. They rely on the either. I don't

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know if you want to call it stupidity, but they

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rely on the stupidity of the readers to just

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read the headline and go, Trump's bad. We got

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him. We got him. We got him. It's like every

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fucking time the press comes out and says, we

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got him. His back's up against the wall. We got

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the smoking gun. It always is false. Every friggin

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time. When do you learn that they're lying to

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you? Like, yep. When do you figure it out? On

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ending eight wars and another one coming pretty

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soon, I believe. We've done a great job. And

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I hate to see that deflect from the great job

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we've done. So I'm all for it. You know, we've

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already given 50 ,000 pages. You do know that.

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Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation,

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with the Martin Luther King situation, not to

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put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category. But

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no matter what we give, it's never enough. You

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know, with Kennedy, we gave everything and it

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wasn't enough. With Martin Luther King, we gave

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everything and it's never enough. We've already

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given, I believe the number is 50 ,000 pages,

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50 ,000 pages. And it's just a Russia, Russia,

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Russia hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.

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Now, I believe that many of the people that we,

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some of the people that we mentioned are. being

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looked at very seriously for their relationship

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to Jeffrey Epstein. But they were with him all

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the time. I wasn't. I wasn't at all. And we'll

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see what happens. What I just don't want Epstein

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to do is detract from the great success of the

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Republican Party. I'll play that video of the

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timeline that I sent of that guy going through

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the timeline, because that's very interesting.

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That's you, Babay. the back side of that of that

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video from from our dear president with businessman

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jeffrey epstein was a businessman at least on

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surface so of course there are photos and clips

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of not only trump but tons of other businessmen

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millionaires and high profiles rubbing elbows

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with jeffrey epstein in the 80s and 90s fast

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forward early 2000 Trump and Epstein cross paths

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at events like monologue parties and New York

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City galas. By 2004, they clash over a Palm Beach

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mansion bid. Trump wins. Their friendship starts

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cracking. 2004, 2007. Trump gets wind of Jeffrey

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Epstein's weird vibes hitting on a member's teenage

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daughter and poaching young spa staff, including

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a 16 -year -old who later becomes victim, Virginia

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Giuffre, recruited by Maxwell. Trump warns his

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team, then bans Epstein from Mar -a -Lago for

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life in 2007. No more invites, no more access,

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all ties cut. By the way, Virginia Giuffre in

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2016, under oath, I never saw Trump do anything

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wrong. Her 2025 memoir, Trump couldn't have been

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friendlier. Okay. 2005, 2006. Florida investigates

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Epstein for abusing underage girls. Trump steps

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up and tells the investigators everything he

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knows. He helps the victims seek justice. FBI

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launches federal probe in July 2006. Epstein's

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empire starts crumbling. 2008. Epstein gets 13

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months in a county jail. 2009 to 2016. Epstein

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rebuilds his network. No federal follow -up.

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Obama is president and his DOJ... Epstein parties

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on his island. Untouchable. 2017. Trump is elected.

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Epstein seats in private email to Clinton Obama

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Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. Trump... is

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dangerous. 2018, 2019, Trump's first term is

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rolling. Epstein texts Democrat Representative

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Stacey Plaskett live during Michael Cohen hearing,

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nudging her questions to amplify the anti -Trump

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hit. Epstein also emails anti -Trump dirt to

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a well -known Trump hater, Michael Wolff, for

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a hit piece book. In other words, while Trump's

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DOJ closes in, Epstein is texting Democrats in

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real time to take down Trump. What? 2019, Epstein

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arrested on federal sex trafficking charges.

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Trump's DOJ indicts him. 2020 to 2022, Gillian

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Maxwell gets arrested. Convicted in 2021 on trafficking

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charges. 20 -year sentence. 2021 -2024. Joe Biden

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is president. Democrats in power. The Epstein

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Files. Crickets. Nothing. No one cares. 2024

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-2025. Trump wins the election. Vows to declassify

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Epstein Files. Releases some documents, but there

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is nothing new that we don't know about. Nothing,

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Berger. November 2025. Now. Democrats leak select

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emails, hyping Epstein's gripes about Trump,

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knowing about the girls. Twisted to sound bad,

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but victims back Trump's story. Republicans release

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all 20 ,000 plus pages. No wrongdoing by Trump

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found, but collaboration between Epstein and

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the Democrats found. Now, the timeline we just

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went through is all sourced from oversight, court

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feeling, victim books and testimonies. Trump

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wasn't Epstein's pal. He was his kryptonite.

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Banned him first, helped nail him. And these

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documents, well, all slander, zero substance.

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Yemen. There you go. And, you know, it's what

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will happen, though, is like, well, one. Most

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of the lefties won't even watch that because

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they can't hear anything that's adverse to how

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they think. Oh my God, it's triggering. They

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don't want to hear the truth. And if they do

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hear the truth, they won't believe it. It's fucking

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crazy, man. It's insane. But yeah, just keep

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calling Trump a pedo, you idiots. Sounds good.

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You're digging your own grave. They're digging

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their own grave. They wanted everything released.

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Now it's getting released and it's their team

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that's all over the fucking documents and emails.

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Anywho, we will get back to that later, but let's

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go to our next guest, Miss Jen Smith. What is

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going on? Not much. What's up with y 'all? Yo.

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Inside thoughts, baby. Digging the album, feeling

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it. It's out. It is out. How's it going? Good,

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I think. I mean, it seems to be going better,

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really, than any of the singles we've put out.

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Very cool. Good, good, good. It's awesome. Yeah,

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and it's soulful. We were saying before you got

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on, it's like Alana Del Rey. Lyrics are good.

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I love in the falsetto. It's deep. Thank you.

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The album's deep. It's different. It's good.

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Thank you. I was expecting like, because the

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first song I heard was Mirror Mirror, and that

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was like really hardcore and stuff like that,

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or harder song, you know, and then this was kind

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of soulful, and it's got some nice hooks to it,

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beats and stuff like that. Inside those, I'm

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going to play a song for Jen that I was digging.

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Let's see here. So the audience could get a little

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piece of what I was into here. There we go. Boom.

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It's a blank. Can you hear it? I can't hear it.

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Oh, you guys can't hear it? No. Shit. You're

00:23:09.029 --> 00:23:10.690
rocking out over there. We can't hear it. Yeah,

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I am. All right. I was worried about that. Never

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mind, Jen. I'm not sure why that didn't go through.

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But Into Place, yeah. I don't know why. The sound

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was shared and all that jazz. But that was one

00:23:29.829 --> 00:23:31.910
of my jams. Into Place was the name of the song.

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Yeah, I'll see if I can figure that out while

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we're going through the show. So Jen, was this,

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do you plan on doing, because I could see, I

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hear some of the, it's like acoustic guitar going

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and stuff. I could see you doing like acoustic

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performances with this. I remember last time

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you were on, you were like, that's kind of intimidating.

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You like the full band behind you, but. Yeah.

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I mean, I think so. Or, you know, at least. maybe

00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.839
like a couple of them acoustic and then the rest

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not like kind of like a drop down yeah totally

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next time we have you on we'll have to have a

00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:13.859
little performance from you yeah that'd be fun

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we could even do it Ashley Simpson style where

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we like she did on SNL where we had to play the

00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.960
track and you know go over it so you gotta go

00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:28.380
there huh and sing yeah gotta do that So what's

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going on, Jen? Yeah, exactly. How has it been

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since releasing? Because this seems like private

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thoughts that you have inside thoughts type of

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deal is the name of the album. So it seems like

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you're putting your soul out there. You feel

00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.960
vulnerable? Yeah, but you know, honestly, it's

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not been as bad as like the first couple. I think

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I got so used to it at this point that it doesn't

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bother me as much. i do notice i've had people

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call me out that there's one song that i never

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play like on lives and stuff when i'm when i'm

00:25:01.490 --> 00:25:03.569
on there i always end up skipping it and all

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i get messages like um i have to say i don't

00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:08.849
understand why you don't play this song and i'm

00:25:08.849 --> 00:25:15.670
like well that's the one that's like it's the

00:25:15.670 --> 00:25:22.029
stay away song and yeah i for some and you know

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it's funny because like i think i did it subconsciously

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for a while like because i just didn't ever if

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it came on i just like hit skip how funny john

00:25:31.829 --> 00:25:34.690
john pull up stay away let's play it yeah well

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i was just gonna say i'm trying to make myself

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do it now bill played it the other day when he

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was in the studio and i was like all right well

00:25:43.289 --> 00:25:45.630
here we are it wasn't that bad but like for some

00:25:45.630 --> 00:25:48.630
reason i think in my head i was just like i just

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:51.150
always skipped it i don't know well so is that

00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:53.190
you want to talk about is that one about like

00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:55.309
a past relationship or something like that like

00:25:55.309 --> 00:25:57.210
it's very personal obviously what's are you i

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mean i think it's well yeah originally that's

00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:04.690
where it came from was it was one of those i

00:26:04.690 --> 00:26:06.710
mean it's basically like stay away like if you're

00:26:06.710 --> 00:26:09.829
not going to like actually stay and stick around

00:26:09.829 --> 00:26:14.549
don't don't let me you know become attached in

00:26:14.549 --> 00:26:18.630
the situation right type of thing so um Yeah,

00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:21.069
but I don't even think I realized it at first,

00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.410
honestly. Like it didn't even click. And then

00:26:23.410 --> 00:26:25.730
I was, but I did. I skipped it every single time.

00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:30.349
So that was interesting. It's just automatic.

00:26:31.109 --> 00:26:34.809
Yeah, I did. I think at first in my head, I was

00:26:34.809 --> 00:26:36.750
like, oh, it's because it's slow. And so it kind

00:26:36.750 --> 00:26:40.069
of like brings down the vibe in the room. And

00:26:40.069 --> 00:26:43.849
then I just like found new excuses all the time

00:26:43.849 --> 00:26:46.599
and not play it. Well, it's what happens when,

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.339
you know, you use your, you know, your deep personal

00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:51.799
experiences and put them in recordings. Like

00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.720
as, as they say, you're wearing your heart on

00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.819
your sleeve and it's like, it's tough sometimes

00:26:57.819 --> 00:27:00.059
because you're being vulnerable and people are

00:27:00.059 --> 00:27:01.960
listening to it. And then maybe you're some,

00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.559
like you said, some costs you're like, I don't

00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.019
want to listen to that right now. It's too. Yeah.

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:09.480
Right. Let's not drag that up. We can skip that.

00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.589
Yes. All right, I think I figured out how to

00:27:12.589 --> 00:27:17.430
play a song here. Okay. Let's try it out. Tell

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:54.369
me if I got it right this time. Yeah, yeah. It's

00:27:54.369 --> 00:30:09.259
not the way. What? Yeah, baby. It's kind of spicy.

00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:15.240
Let's go. Very cool. I mean, so the songs are

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.980
catchy, like straight from the get. And usually

00:30:17.980 --> 00:30:19.700
the first time you hear a song or something,

00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:22.359
it needs to grow on you. But the like five that

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.660
I picked out from the album to listen to them

00:30:24.660 --> 00:30:26.980
right away, I'm like, all right, I'm bopping.

00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:33.779
I'm into the lyrics. I like it all. When we spoke

00:30:33.779 --> 00:30:36.000
last time, Jen, and Mirror Mirror was out, did

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.640
you have these songs written already, or is this

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:43.019
something that you did after that? Most of it

00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.559
was after. There was some that had a couple little

00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.799
starts to it, but none of them were finished

00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.180
before. And actually, Into Place was the first

00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:56.950
that was written from that album. And so like,

00:30:56.990 --> 00:30:59.049
did you have this style? Cause like there's a

00:30:59.049 --> 00:31:01.470
style to the way you sing. There's a style to

00:31:01.470 --> 00:31:04.250
the music. Like it seems like almost like a fully

00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:07.069
formed artist, but it's album one, which is kind

00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:10.190
of crazy. So it's like, well, you know, I've

00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:12.130
done all different kinds of stuff. Like that's

00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:15.210
in my early twenties, like the last like larger

00:31:15.210 --> 00:31:17.069
performance things. And it was a country music

00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:19.470
showdowns, which is like nothing like any of

00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:25.759
this stuff. Sure. So. I had done this style like

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:30.220
cover wise in the past and it's one of the styles

00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:31.920
I listen to because I listen to like everything.

00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:36.859
But I had never written that way and it was really

00:31:36.859 --> 00:31:41.400
just like a fun thing just to like kind of get

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.119
out of like a funk. slum yeah and then i loved

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.900
it so much and i was like wait i really really

00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:50.299
really like this and it was fun and it was a

00:31:50.299 --> 00:31:52.460
challenge i think everything kind of got to where

00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:54.759
there was less challenge when it was the other

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.539
styles that i just kind of felt like when i was

00:31:59.539 --> 00:32:03.319
sitting right and so i really i liked the challenge

00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.240
of it and there was some times that i was like

00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:06.819
maybe i don't like the challenge maybe i just

00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:10.299
want to i want to go back i want to go back but

00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:14.480
i didn't want to put an album out that had a

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.779
whole bunch of different genre type things in

00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:19.480
it. Like I kind of wanted to stick in the same

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.880
realm. And so I just kind of had to push through

00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.599
some of the times that I was kind of questioning

00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.839
it, but yeah, I loved it. Like every bit of it.

00:32:30.259 --> 00:32:32.700
And it was easier on my voice, so much easier

00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:36.460
on my voice. Yes. You got a killer voice too.

00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.519
Some of the notes you're in, I'm like, damn,

00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:40.980
I'm not ready for that. Like, you know, I'm like.

00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:43.609
Because I'm hearing you go, is she going to hit

00:32:43.609 --> 00:32:45.730
it? And then you hit it. I'm like, rock the fuck

00:32:45.730 --> 00:32:48.029
on. That's a voice right there. Well, but it's

00:32:48.029 --> 00:32:51.769
like quicker. And like, you know, before, between

00:32:51.769 --> 00:32:55.390
Mirror Mirror and this, I put out a single called

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:58.250
Beautiful Mess. And like, when I recorded that,

00:32:58.410 --> 00:33:00.950
I was like hoarse for like two or three days

00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:03.230
afterwards from singing that over and over and

00:33:03.230 --> 00:33:04.990
over. I was like, this is not sustainable. Like,

00:33:04.990 --> 00:33:08.410
that's not, it's something I could do like that,

00:33:08.470 --> 00:33:12.119
like, you know, to record it. I can't go around

00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:13.940
sounding like a trucker, you know, for two weeks

00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:17.000
at a time. Right, right. Singing it every night.

00:33:17.059 --> 00:33:20.220
Yeah. You might just have to build up your vocal

00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:22.000
cords to it because you're hitting the note.

00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:24.019
That means it's in there and you could build

00:33:24.019 --> 00:33:25.900
up the strength to do it. But yeah, that's a

00:33:25.900 --> 00:33:27.559
good point that you hit because that's one of

00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.539
the songs where I hit that beautiful mess. When

00:33:29.539 --> 00:33:31.799
you get to that chorus, that's a fucking note

00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:33.700
that you hit when you go into the beautiful mess

00:33:33.700 --> 00:33:36.339
part and you sustain it. You hold on like, God

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:38.279
damn, that's a powerhouse voice right there.

00:33:38.569 --> 00:33:40.430
was impressed yeah it just it feels like you

00:33:40.430 --> 00:33:43.410
got to bring it from your toes you know so yeah

00:33:43.410 --> 00:33:46.490
it's funny we had a one time we had a conversation

00:33:46.490 --> 00:33:49.589
with chris cornell and he was talking about all

00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:51.670
the high stuff that he did in early days of soundgarden

00:33:51.670 --> 00:33:54.269
yeah i don't know why i ever sang that high it's

00:33:54.269 --> 00:33:58.150
like so hard to do now yeah like it's just it's

00:33:58.150 --> 00:34:02.569
not as enjoyable and like the others they're

00:34:02.569 --> 00:34:04.130
kind of in that pocket where you're like yeah

00:34:04.130 --> 00:34:08.659
i've got to reach but also I could be like sitting

00:34:08.659 --> 00:34:11.039
and chilling doing it as opposed to like feeling

00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.099
like I got to use everything in my person to

00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:16.860
like push it out. Yeah. So what's your writing

00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:19.380
process? Like, do you use acoustic guitar, piano?

00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:24.880
Like, and you start with like melody. But I don't,

00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:26.480
you know, it's really funny. How about a lot

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.340
of people asked me that recently? Like that's,

00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:31.199
it's been like never been a topic. And then all

00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.000
of a sudden it's been a topic like the last like

00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.719
week or two, like on lives. Most of the time,

00:34:37.050 --> 00:34:41.650
i sit down like with like what i'm gonna write

00:34:41.650 --> 00:34:47.769
about okay and then i start writing then i go

00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:51.429
music really but then there's other times that

00:34:51.429 --> 00:34:54.769
i have like hooks in my head and i'll be singing

00:34:54.769 --> 00:34:57.150
something like that and i just sing it as i'm

00:34:57.150 --> 00:34:59.449
writing it and then like i'll go fill in extra

00:34:59.449 --> 00:35:02.829
blanks those are to me are easier because i've

00:35:02.829 --> 00:35:05.150
already kind of got the hook in my head Yes.

00:35:05.289 --> 00:35:06.849
Because there's other times that I'll just have

00:35:06.849 --> 00:35:08.250
a whole bunch of lyrics sitting there and I've

00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:11.349
got to like kind of think through what I want

00:35:11.349 --> 00:35:14.969
to do. But like a lot of times they're like me.

00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:19.349
Beautiful mess. Mirror, mirror. I had a hook.

00:35:19.510 --> 00:35:24.210
I had the mirror mirror in my head. Yeah. But

00:35:24.210 --> 00:35:26.429
like beautiful mess. It was I like literally

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:29.449
sat and wrote it out like notes and like a story.

00:35:29.590 --> 00:35:32.489
And then I go down and like hone it down and.

00:35:34.579 --> 00:35:37.340
Wow. Interesting. That's very cool. Yeah. That

00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:39.159
seems like a hard way to, to kind of write the

00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.739
music. So you had like, yeah. Cause then you

00:35:42.739 --> 00:35:44.579
have to like put music over your lyrics. They

00:35:44.579 --> 00:35:45.960
be dealing, figure out where you're going with

00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.699
it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but then I can like, I

00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.739
move stuff around. I have the general gist of

00:35:52.739 --> 00:35:55.880
how I want it. And then when I start doing the

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.280
music, I move stuff more. I reword things because

00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.199
it doesn't sound right, you know, when it's coming

00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:06.000
out as a lyric as opposed to just written words.

00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.280
So it's kind of a mixture of both. But a lot

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.619
of times I start with like, okay, I'm sitting

00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:15.340
down to write a song about this. And so. That's

00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:19.119
cool. So, yeah, that seems scary too. Like you

00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:20.860
have an idea of like what you want to write about

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:23.260
as opposed to like. whatever is coming to you

00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:27.019
at the time um the the musicians on the album

00:36:27.019 --> 00:36:29.699
is this a band that you have or were they just

00:36:29.699 --> 00:36:33.480
kind of studio special musicians yeah it's it's

00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.699
i actually like i do it and then like have them

00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:38.539
put it all in there for me and then send it back

00:36:38.539 --> 00:36:42.360
to me ah so you're sending out files to a studio

00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.780
and they're the guys recording and then okay

00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:48.739
cool yeah are you there at all to or do are you

00:36:48.739 --> 00:36:51.659
just here yeah i go in there sometimes but like

00:36:51.659 --> 00:36:56.360
usually i just borrow like recording stuff or

00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.280
go to someone's house that has like recording

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.320
stuff and i get it knocked out there so it would

00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.159
be way i feel like it would be so much easier

00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.019
just like be in the studio and knock it out yeah

00:37:06.019 --> 00:37:08.079
because it's a whole so much back and forth and

00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.440
there's a there's a couple songs on there that

00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.019
i thought they were gonna hate me and tell me

00:37:13.019 --> 00:37:15.829
to all the way off like because I would be like

00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:18.510
I really don't like that I really but can we

00:37:18.510 --> 00:37:20.449
do this but I really don't like this can we do

00:37:20.449 --> 00:37:21.730
this and I was like these people are gonna be

00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:25.789
like this bitch like at some point y 'all are

00:37:25.789 --> 00:37:28.369
gonna be done with me right but so you're not

00:37:28.369 --> 00:37:31.170
so you're relying on them to come up with their

00:37:31.170 --> 00:37:33.510
parts and like you're just like I said you're

00:37:33.510 --> 00:37:36.510
sending them the song I send them like vocals

00:37:36.510 --> 00:37:40.949
and then like my acoustic I've been I don't know

00:37:40.949 --> 00:37:44.639
I rarely even want my acoustic to like be part

00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.179
of it like it's just i play enough to to write

00:37:48.179 --> 00:37:55.500
in my mind you know um or piano and then i like

00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.900
on into place i was literally on facetime banging

00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:02.179
on my wall like explaining like how i wanted

00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:05.519
this to go okay and i looked like a psychopath

00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:09.300
i have no doubt like i was like no no no you

00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:12.900
gotta see i mean like this and like banging on

00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.639
the wall looking crazy it's not crazy i mean

00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.940
that's uh michael jackson if you watch like this

00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:19.960
is it like because he didn't really play instruments

00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:21.940
but he would like sing the parts that he wanted

00:38:21.940 --> 00:38:23.559
the musicians to play and stuff like that so

00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.090
it's You know, it might look crazy from the outside,

00:38:26.170 --> 00:38:27.570
but that's, you know, kind of way that people

00:38:27.570 --> 00:38:30.510
seem to do it. Yeah. I just remember thinking,

00:38:30.530 --> 00:38:33.190
I was like, if anyone had this on video, it would

00:38:33.190 --> 00:38:35.110
be comical because I'm on FaceTime like, no,

00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:37.690
no, no, no, like this. And like banging on the

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:40.210
wall looking. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff

00:38:40.210 --> 00:38:42.570
you should record for, you know. I know. I know.

00:38:42.610 --> 00:38:44.570
I missed out on that. It really would have been

00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:46.409
something because I was up all night writing

00:38:46.409 --> 00:38:48.409
and like going through it and everything else.

00:38:48.730 --> 00:38:51.389
And then, so I was like, hey, on top of my head,

00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:54.019
looking crazy and like. reaching over the keyboard

00:38:54.019 --> 00:38:57.820
like banging right now i was just curious if

00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:01.019
you're if you're involved intimately deeply in

00:39:01.019 --> 00:39:03.260
the process of them putting their parts together

00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:06.300
no no so you're just kind of like you send them

00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:08.320
something you give an idea what you want and

00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.739
then they'll they send stuff back do you have

00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:13.420
to change a lot of stuff or are you like this

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:16.460
time i did okay i other times i didn't so much

00:39:16.460 --> 00:39:20.860
and i think this time because i was like i really

00:39:20.860 --> 00:39:23.380
didn't have any pressure on it you know because

00:39:23.380 --> 00:39:25.960
we have plenty of time I'd only put out singles

00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.480
I had not really whatever I wanted it out but

00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.639
like I didn't have any major rush or reason to

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:39.679
have to rush so I just yeah now there was times

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.260
that I was irritated with myself I was like are

00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:44.119
you sure you can't just like this like because

00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.119
I just wanted it done but I would be like no

00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.599
I just really something's off something's off

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.840
with it so Good for you for sticking to your

00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.159
guns because like Chad was saying with his first

00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:58.280
couple albums, they didn't like put it out unless

00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.139
all the hairs on their neck stood up. So it's

00:40:00.139 --> 00:40:03.159
like, and you as a solo artist, it's kind of

00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:04.880
easier for them because they had like four people

00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.500
going in with it and like, ah, this is what we

00:40:06.500 --> 00:40:08.099
want. But you as a solo artist, you're like,

00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.280
fuck, am I putting these people through the ringer?

00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:12.539
Cause I'm trying to like perfect this, but it's

00:40:12.539 --> 00:40:14.239
your music and you're, and you're putting out

00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.840
what you want. So good for you for sticking to

00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.000
your guns and getting your actual vision across.

00:40:19.789 --> 00:40:22.289
Well, I appreciate it. Yeah. Next, I would much

00:40:22.289 --> 00:40:24.429
rather be in the studio. I was just going to

00:40:24.429 --> 00:40:25.809
say, it sounds like you have to. Collectively

00:40:25.809 --> 00:40:28.750
doing this because it was like, oh, my God. That's

00:40:28.750 --> 00:40:29.309
the best way to do it. There were times that

00:40:29.309 --> 00:40:32.869
it was very frustrating. Yeah, that's why I was

00:40:32.869 --> 00:40:34.190
trying to figure out how you were doing that

00:40:34.190 --> 00:40:37.230
because it's like ideally you're there when it's

00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:39.400
being recorded and you can go. no, that drum

00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.880
part's not right or the guitarist is doing this.

00:40:41.980 --> 00:40:45.539
I don't like that. Once you hear it, they could

00:40:45.539 --> 00:40:47.599
do something exactly like you said. But then

00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.820
you hear it and you're like, oh, you know, really?

00:40:51.059 --> 00:40:52.880
And that's why there was sometimes I was like,

00:40:52.940 --> 00:40:54.679
these people are going to hate me so much. I

00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.539
mean, I was paying them. But at the same time,

00:40:58.619 --> 00:41:03.800
I was like, damn. And there's that longer turnaround

00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:05.519
because you're waiting on the back and forth

00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.139
as opposed to being there in the moment. doing

00:41:09.139 --> 00:41:11.500
it so how far away was the studio far away from

00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:14.340
you or where was it um well no there were some

00:41:14.340 --> 00:41:16.320
that like were in Dallas but I don't know where

00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.099
they had them out of you know what I mean they

00:41:18.099 --> 00:41:20.059
could have had them wherever because it was like

00:41:20.059 --> 00:41:23.199
friends and uh people that had connections they're

00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.179
recording people remotely too so they're not

00:41:25.179 --> 00:41:27.079
they're not in one central studio like they're

00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.519
just depending on where they were like because

00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.880
it was I was using a whole lot of connections

00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.539
like because that's why people even now like

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:38.920
you know the album came out on Halloween and

00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.340
i really just picked that because i thought it

00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:44.239
was kind of cheeky because you know there was

00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.019
like haunt me's on there and all that you know

00:41:47.019 --> 00:41:54.639
whatever so yeah um but i just i don't know like

00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.039
i wish i had done it differently than i did but

00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.860
at the same time it was it was how you do it

00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:04.340
but people ask me now they're like when's the

00:42:04.340 --> 00:42:06.340
next thing i'm like y 'all i'm one damn person

00:42:06.340 --> 00:42:10.219
like i mean as much as i appreciate that i'm

00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:12.860
like the fuck you say like i'm one person and

00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:17.260
there was a whole lot of trying to like juggle

00:42:17.260 --> 00:42:21.400
everything else in life and do this so that's

00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.119
the crazy shit about you know influencers content

00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.800
creators you know actors musicians like their

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.019
fans are so they want like stuff they want new

00:42:31.019 --> 00:42:33.239
all the time instant gratification yeah yeah

00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:39.019
yeah back in the day it's great but yeah yeah

00:42:39.019 --> 00:42:40.860
it's like yeah records don't work that way it

00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:44.519
takes a while to make and then yeah it's it's

00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.619
like do you want me putting out shit that isn't

00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:48.960
good and then you don't like the shit i put out

00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:50.659
because then yeah i'll put out stuff every day

00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:52.679
but if you're looking for quality and you know

00:42:52.909 --> 00:42:55.670
if I just like had access to like pop in a studio

00:42:55.670 --> 00:42:58.530
and, and there was everyone that like, you know,

00:42:58.530 --> 00:43:00.829
had nothing else to do in life and, and they

00:43:00.829 --> 00:43:02.969
wanted to pop in and do the instruments for me

00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:06.929
and then do it like that, you know, but as it

00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:09.809
sits, you know, I'm grown as hell. Everyone,

00:43:09.809 --> 00:43:15.449
you know, we've all got life. So, you know, it's

00:43:15.449 --> 00:43:17.889
a little hard to do it that way. You need a band.

00:43:18.969 --> 00:43:21.489
So you don't have to. piecemeal the uh thing

00:43:21.489 --> 00:43:23.369
together but yeah it's kind of hard to find unless

00:43:23.369 --> 00:43:26.010
you're diving in like head first into it and

00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:28.190
that's like you're doing it 24 7 going out on

00:43:28.190 --> 00:43:31.409
tour and stuff like that is that something that's

00:43:31.409 --> 00:43:33.469
like in your in your brain for like an ultimate

00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:36.349
goal is to like get a band that's yours and maybe

00:43:36.349 --> 00:43:39.829
take some uh go on tour and stuff like that i've

00:43:39.829 --> 00:43:42.030
thought about it as long as it fits in the whole

00:43:42.030 --> 00:43:43.789
like you know i've got my kids every other week

00:43:43.789 --> 00:43:45.889
but every other week i really don't you know

00:43:45.889 --> 00:43:49.300
everything i do could be done not here Right.

00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.260
Like, so I've thought about that quite a bit.

00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.679
Like, cause I talked about going and doing some

00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.539
shows in Austin and doing things, different places.

00:44:01.579 --> 00:44:03.960
And at one point I had, I had been talking to

00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.940
someone about like festivals and stuff, but it's

00:44:07.940 --> 00:44:10.019
just a lot of this stuff is ends up being attached

00:44:10.019 --> 00:44:13.659
to like labels. And a lot of times with the labels,

00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:17.920
you get all these perks, but also one. One of

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.800
the perks is, well, you can use our studio. I'm

00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.900
like, well, actually, I don't have to worry about

00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:25.400
using your studio because I could go to a studio

00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.760
if I was going to go there. And they say you

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.590
could use the studio, but... They say you can

00:44:32.590 --> 00:44:34.050
use the studio, but they're going to let you

00:44:34.050 --> 00:44:35.869
use it. And then when you make money, they're

00:44:35.869 --> 00:44:37.630
going to charge you for that time. So it's not

00:44:37.630 --> 00:44:39.530
like they're giving it to you. So as it sits,

00:44:39.730 --> 00:44:42.929
like I pay everyone straight out a set fee and

00:44:42.929 --> 00:44:46.650
then I own everything. Yeah. So it seems dumb

00:44:46.650 --> 00:44:51.010
to like lose ownership. Yeah. Now, like as far

00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:57.170
as like distribution and promotion, that's when

00:44:57.170 --> 00:44:59.769
I go, oh, you know, maybe the label thing doesn't

00:44:59.769 --> 00:45:03.090
sound so bad. Sure. Well, you can just do distribution

00:45:03.090 --> 00:45:04.889
deals too, though. I mean, I'm sure you know

00:45:04.889 --> 00:45:06.530
that, right? I mean, you don't have to. No, Chad,

00:45:06.690 --> 00:45:09.349
I don't know shit. Okay, well, okay. So you can

00:45:09.349 --> 00:45:12.170
get, you can get solely, you can solely get distribution

00:45:12.170 --> 00:45:14.389
deals where they just distribute the music and

00:45:14.389 --> 00:45:16.730
put it out. Sometimes they offer a little budget

00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:20.789
for promotion. Now I have heard of like the people

00:45:20.789 --> 00:45:25.070
that like you can like go through to get like.

00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.280
not just like tune core or something like, and

00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.420
just like the distributors, like they do the

00:45:30.420 --> 00:45:31.860
promotions and all this stuff. I have heard of

00:45:31.860 --> 00:45:34.260
that. I just didn't like, I haven't heard of

00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:38.659
like, as far as like doing like a contract or

00:45:38.659 --> 00:45:40.239
something with someone like a label or something

00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.860
to where it's not all on me. Right. Well, I guess

00:45:43.860 --> 00:45:45.539
you got to wait out too, because all they're

00:45:45.539 --> 00:45:48.199
going to do these distributors is like take ads

00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.320
out, get you booked on shows. Maybe it's like,

00:45:50.380 --> 00:45:53.480
that's what, maybe if it's like, you know, if

00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.199
it's not crazy, I don't know what the ads cost

00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:56.860
to do that, but maybe even something you could

00:45:56.860 --> 00:45:59.260
do on your own and fucking cut them out completely.

00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:02.480
Ads aren't that expensive. And you could target

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.619
your audience. Yeah, it's not too, it's not too

00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:09.840
bad. And like, I'll do some of the things like

00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.159
that Spotify offers, like the different like

00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.599
promotional things and stuff like that. But yeah,

00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.739
I wish, I do wish I had looked into that more,

00:46:17.780 --> 00:46:20.880
but you know, like there's so many things. Like,

00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:22.480
people always want merch stuff, and I'm like,

00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.480
y 'all, again, one person. Like, so I keep trying.

00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.000
I'm like, okay, I need to at least do, like,

00:46:29.019 --> 00:46:32.059
Printify or something because. Yeah. I can hook

00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:34.420
you up with a company that does. They do over

00:46:34.420 --> 00:46:38.099
300 items with just logos and stuff. Oh, really?

00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:40.340
Yeah. Yeah, I knew you'd do that. I can tell

00:46:40.340 --> 00:46:42.159
you about that. People ask about it all the time,

00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.960
and I'm like, I'm trying. Yes. You know, but

00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.619
then you're also worried about your emails on

00:46:47.619 --> 00:46:49.619
your damn TikTok live. Like, do you want a sticker

00:46:49.619 --> 00:46:54.800
or do you want to. The company Chad's talking

00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.820
about is you don't have to pre buy this stuff.

00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:00.239
Like they'll print it on demand for your fans.

00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.280
That's perfect. That's exactly what I need. I'll

00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.059
send you a link for the, the guys, the owner

00:47:06.059 --> 00:47:09.500
and a good friend. So, well, good, good, good

00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:10.980
acquaintances with them. Not good friends, but.

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:15.530
you say that so freely about people you're like

00:47:15.530 --> 00:47:17.789
i'm good friends with them it's like not really

00:47:17.789 --> 00:47:20.590
i know yeah there's a huge difference though

00:47:20.590 --> 00:47:24.510
there's a huge difference anyway so i'll set

00:47:24.510 --> 00:47:26.050
you up with that that could be good for you as

00:47:26.050 --> 00:47:27.610
well that's because one less thing you have to

00:47:27.610 --> 00:47:29.570
worry about but you get out merch they can put

00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.230
it on they have like i said 380 items all kinds

00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:35.710
of clothing coffee mugs cups and they print it

00:47:35.710 --> 00:47:37.670
on demand everything you don't have to keep anything

00:47:38.269 --> 00:47:40.369
You don't have to buy, like, 300 pieces and all

00:47:40.369 --> 00:47:41.949
that stuff. Anyway. Yeah, well, that was the

00:47:41.949 --> 00:47:44.650
drawback on it. I was like, God, no. And then

00:47:44.650 --> 00:47:46.730
I'd have to, like, be over here trying to ship

00:47:46.730 --> 00:47:48.769
everything. I was like, God. They take care of

00:47:48.769 --> 00:47:50.809
all that. Yes. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's

00:47:50.809 --> 00:47:54.690
nice. Yeah, a friend will help you bury a body.

00:47:54.769 --> 00:47:57.250
An acquaintance will probably rat on you for

00:47:57.250 --> 00:48:00.170
that body. Yeah. That's the difference. I'll

00:48:00.170 --> 00:48:03.750
find the tarpon line. No worries. Shit, damn.

00:48:04.349 --> 00:48:06.989
Come on now. I watch a lot of TV. I watch a lot

00:48:06.989 --> 00:48:09.349
of TV, my man. Just don't search that stuff on

00:48:09.349 --> 00:48:13.989
your web browser, okay? Yeah. You folks hear

00:48:13.989 --> 00:48:17.349
that Jim Carrey is going to be George Jetson

00:48:17.349 --> 00:48:21.510
in the new Jetson movies. Really? Anybody hear

00:48:21.510 --> 00:48:24.650
that? That was a squirrel, but okay. Sure. No,

00:48:24.829 --> 00:48:26.829
I didn't know that. I didn't know that either.

00:48:27.949 --> 00:48:29.789
I just want to show up. I thought he retired.

00:48:30.530 --> 00:48:33.030
All I've seen him do is paint and act crazy.

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:36.530
Yeah, he comes out for these little things. I

00:48:36.530 --> 00:48:38.469
think he has grandkids or something that he's

00:48:38.469 --> 00:48:42.530
replaced. Oh, yeah, his daughter did have some

00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:45.250
kids. He has grandchildren, yes. But check it

00:48:45.250 --> 00:48:47.409
out, dude. Am I not sharing? No, I'm not sharing.

00:48:47.570 --> 00:48:51.889
What the motherless. I don't know what's going

00:48:51.889 --> 00:48:56.389
on here, folks. I blame Bobby if that's a thing.

00:48:57.309 --> 00:49:01.530
There we go. Looks pretty dope, though. I mean,

00:49:01.670 --> 00:49:04.349
that's wild. I wouldn't have expected that. I

00:49:04.349 --> 00:49:06.130
mean, he makes a pretty good batch, honestly.

00:49:07.250 --> 00:49:10.210
Uh, Jen, you know that, uh, Jim and, uh, Chad

00:49:10.210 --> 00:49:14.309
used to be friends. Um, Chad was at, I believe

00:49:14.309 --> 00:49:17.909
his wedding, Jim's wedding. That's wild, sir.

00:49:18.329 --> 00:49:20.670
Well, I was at the, uh, yeah, the after party

00:49:20.670 --> 00:49:22.989
to Lauren Holly when he got married to her. We

00:49:22.989 --> 00:49:24.730
were, we were friendly. We were talking on the

00:49:24.730 --> 00:49:26.550
phone a lot and like, yeah, he had just done,

00:49:26.630 --> 00:49:29.780
um, come off a dumb and dumber. And so he married

00:49:29.780 --> 00:49:33.440
Lauren Holly and I went to Tom Hanks house for

00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:38.719
the reception. And then Tom and Chad hopped the

00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:40.880
plane to where was it? Epstein's Island. They

00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:46.440
didn't announce my name on the list yet. Now

00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.300
we got the heads up. We got the heads up when

00:49:49.300 --> 00:49:53.780
it comes to it. Anyway, yeah, it was cool to

00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:55.900
know him for a while. Kind of lost contact, but

00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:59.099
he was a really great guy. Yeah, I said to Chad,

00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.539
I'm like, he lost contact right before we started

00:50:01.539 --> 00:50:03.559
The Gracious 2. I'm like, God damn it. That would

00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:07.000
have been a great guest, sir. Oh, man. Back in

00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.800
2001. Yeah, right before. Yeah. Right before.

00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:12.639
Yeah, he's got that great, like, physical comedy

00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:17.239
aspect to it. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He

00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.559
was at some premiere. I just saw, like, a picture,

00:50:20.619 --> 00:50:24.840
but it was the chick that he did The Grinch with.

00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:26.659
She was like a little kid. She was Cindy Lou

00:50:26.659 --> 00:50:30.659
in the movie. Cindy Lou, yeah, yeah. Taylor Momsen,

00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.500
yes. Taylor Momsen. He was such a good grinch.

00:50:36.099 --> 00:50:39.659
Yeah, for sure. But they met on like a red carpet

00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:41.539
after like a bunch of years later, and she's

00:50:41.539 --> 00:50:43.860
fucking fully grown up and looking fresh. Yeah,

00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:45.679
she's in that band Pretty Reckless. Pretty Reckless,

00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:49.199
yeah, yeah. Ah, I got to get my finger on it.

00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:50.820
And she was in that show, too. She was in like

00:50:50.820 --> 00:50:55.199
the OC or something like that. Oh, no. Is the

00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.880
show in New York Gossip Girl? Was that Gossip

00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:59.659
Girl? Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. You're

00:50:59.659 --> 00:51:02.139
right. Yeah, Gossip Girl. She was like the younger

00:51:02.139 --> 00:51:06.699
sister or something. Yeah. Jen, I want to play

00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:09.280
you something. And I want to know if you agree

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.760
with this gentleman's statement here. The interview

00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.519
in which you said, it's not the worst thing to

00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.380
slap a woman now and then. As I remember, you

00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:19.179
said you don't do it with a clenched fist. It's

00:51:19.179 --> 00:51:21.940
better to do it with an open hand. Yeah. Remember

00:51:21.940 --> 00:51:26.019
that? Yeah. I love that. I haven't changed my

00:51:26.019 --> 00:51:28.699
opinion. You haven't? No, not at all. You think

00:51:28.699 --> 00:51:30.719
it's good to slap a woman? No, I don't think

00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.360
it's good. I don't think it's bad. I don't think

00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.920
it's that bad. I think that it depends entirely

00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.900
on the circumstances and if it merits it. What

00:51:38.900 --> 00:51:41.920
would merit it? Well, if you have tried everything

00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.739
else, and women are pretty good at this, they

00:51:45.739 --> 00:51:50.050
can't leave it alone. They want to have the last

00:51:50.050 --> 00:51:52.750
word, and you give them the last word, but they're

00:51:52.750 --> 00:51:55.050
not happy with the last word. They want to say

00:51:55.050 --> 00:52:02.019
it again. I mean, he's not lying. Chad, it's

00:52:02.019 --> 00:52:05.679
just funny that he's vocalizing it. He's like,

00:52:05.699 --> 00:52:09.699
I told her, fuck around and find out. And she

00:52:09.699 --> 00:52:12.320
fucked around and she in fact found out. I've

00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.219
always done this joke. This is discipline. This

00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:20.119
is abuse, right? Yeah, yeah. Let's see how he

00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.019
ends this and if Barbara Walters is on board

00:52:22.019 --> 00:52:28.670
because something tells me she's not. I think

00:52:28.670 --> 00:52:31.309
it's absolutely right. To give her a good slap?

00:52:31.469 --> 00:52:34.210
Yeah, absolutely. What if she gives you a good

00:52:34.210 --> 00:52:37.210
slap back? Well? Well, then you get into another

00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:40.349
area. I mean, maybe she's going to like it, and

00:52:40.349 --> 00:52:41.650
then it becomes something else, I don't know.

00:52:43.570 --> 00:52:47.070
No, no, seriously, I think that it's the last

00:52:47.070 --> 00:52:49.570
resort. He's not going to do it because he wants

00:52:49.570 --> 00:52:53.769
to do it. Wait till people see this interview.

00:52:53.929 --> 00:52:56.789
You're going to get mailed. Yeah. I'm going to

00:52:56.789 --> 00:53:01.670
get you a female. I didn't realize he was, like,

00:53:01.670 --> 00:53:03.630
funny, dude. She goes, you might get some male.

00:53:03.829 --> 00:53:06.550
He goes, you might get some female. That's fucking

00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:13.349
clever, dude. Like, who knew he was that? I mean,

00:53:13.389 --> 00:53:17.250
you know, sometimes you just got to set a bit

00:53:17.250 --> 00:53:20.949
straight. I mean, I don't know. This is very

00:53:20.949 --> 00:53:23.630
book talk. I mean, he was book talk before book

00:53:23.630 --> 00:53:27.340
talk was around, you know? I like a good schmuck.

00:53:28.820 --> 00:53:31.780
You know, you do have this crazy ultra modern,

00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.139
you know, feminism where they want to be treated

00:53:34.139 --> 00:53:35.960
like equals. Like, okay, well, you're going to

00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.860
hit something. I don't know. Not that I would

00:53:38.860 --> 00:53:45.019
do that, but no, I'm dead. How do we get on this

00:53:45.019 --> 00:53:48.260
job? Let me tell you something. I got, I got

00:53:48.260 --> 00:53:51.760
a good kick out of that. Her face was so good

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:56.630
too. Cause he was like, but it is you said he

00:53:56.630 --> 00:54:01.130
said his inside thoughts totally imagine that

00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:04.130
being that someone doing that today what the

00:54:04.130 --> 00:54:06.829
fuck would happen on oh it would they would be

00:54:06.829 --> 00:54:10.050
everywhere social media it would explode people

00:54:10.050 --> 00:54:13.670
be like what the fuck oh god so funny yeah but

00:54:13.670 --> 00:54:15.329
then they want to talk about whips and chains

00:54:15.329 --> 00:54:18.469
you know i mean you gotta you gotta decide you

00:54:18.469 --> 00:54:23.469
know are you in or out Well, she might like it.

00:54:23.469 --> 00:54:26.750
Okay. Then we have a whole different area. I

00:54:26.750 --> 00:54:29.889
feel like had it been Uno reverse and it was

00:54:29.889 --> 00:54:31.789
like the girl saying it though, this wouldn't

00:54:31.789 --> 00:54:33.650
have, that wouldn't have ever been like that

00:54:33.650 --> 00:54:36.510
controversial. Oh, no. You know what I mean?

00:54:36.590 --> 00:54:40.610
So like, to me, I don't know. Like I, yeah, I,

00:54:40.769 --> 00:54:44.769
I've, what's good for the goose is good for the

00:54:44.769 --> 00:54:48.250
gander, I suppose, you know, like. Well, yes.

00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:54.170
physical violence is last resort yeah i mean

00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:58.289
sometimes you know sometimes we run our mouths

00:54:58.289 --> 00:55:02.570
the funny the funny part is is like so the last

00:55:02.570 --> 00:55:05.269
resort is smacking you technically could just

00:55:05.269 --> 00:55:07.369
walk away before you hit her though you know

00:55:07.369 --> 00:55:09.329
what i'm saying like before you smack her you

00:55:09.329 --> 00:55:10.869
could just be like you know what fuck you i'm

00:55:10.869 --> 00:55:13.530
out of here well i'm not defending it but he

00:55:13.530 --> 00:55:15.489
i think sounds like he's talking about a situation

00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:19.110
where they're just at him, they won't stop. I

00:55:19.110 --> 00:55:22.429
mean, I feel like the shock factor would in fact

00:55:22.429 --> 00:55:27.070
set in. But Chad, the funny part is it sounds

00:55:27.070 --> 00:55:32.150
like it sounds like he's been in that scenario

00:55:32.150 --> 00:55:34.570
a bunch of times where he had to smack a lady.

00:55:34.710 --> 00:55:37.590
I think he's been in that a bunch of times. It

00:55:37.590 --> 00:55:41.250
wasn't just an experience. It wasn't like a relationship.

00:55:41.309 --> 00:55:44.869
He sounds like he has multiple ladies that he

00:55:44.869 --> 00:55:50.460
had to smack. Straighten them out. Yeah. But

00:55:50.460 --> 00:55:52.860
you would think that people would have been saying

00:55:52.860 --> 00:55:54.260
stuff about it, though. You know what I mean?

00:55:54.300 --> 00:55:56.880
Like, if there was, like, a list of the people

00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.599
that he had just, you know, had to let them know

00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:04.599
who was, you know, in control there. Well, don't

00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:05.980
forget, though, that was back in the day where

00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:08.760
they could silence stories and kill people. Oh,

00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:12.619
true. You know? And nobody was the wiser. Oh,

00:56:12.659 --> 00:56:14.710
what, they don't do that now? Well, they do.

00:56:14.929 --> 00:56:18.570
Well, yeah. True that. But now you have to be

00:56:18.570 --> 00:56:21.090
like at a, you know, a political level to do

00:56:21.090 --> 00:56:22.469
it and get away with it. Back in the day, you

00:56:22.469 --> 00:56:24.170
could be an actor or musician and get away with

00:56:24.170 --> 00:56:28.690
it. Now you got to be a Clinton, you know. Right.

00:56:28.829 --> 00:56:36.789
And Obama. True. So Big Mike was in a video,

00:56:37.070 --> 00:56:40.869
Michelle Obama. And dude, she turned me on, bro.

00:56:40.989 --> 00:56:43.869
I was like, is Michelle Obama getting sexier?

00:56:44.070 --> 00:56:46.670
And yeah, I don't know. Oh, dear God. She had

00:56:46.670 --> 00:56:49.710
her legs crossed and she was, and she was telling

00:56:49.710 --> 00:56:51.909
like ladies or she was telling America, like,

00:56:51.949 --> 00:56:54.829
we're not ready for a woman president. Uh, because

00:56:54.829 --> 00:56:59.449
I love that. But Chad, did you see the way she

00:56:59.449 --> 00:57:01.829
was crossing her legs? They were sexy legs, dude.

00:57:01.889 --> 00:57:06.469
They weren't a man's legs. And, uh, I was, I

00:57:06.469 --> 00:57:10.150
was like, damn Michelle. I was jealous of Obama.

00:57:10.630 --> 00:57:16.050
They were shaved. Stuffed down between the legs

00:57:16.050 --> 00:57:18.889
so she could get them crossed, right? Yes, yes.

00:57:19.010 --> 00:57:20.550
And then something was poking out the center.

00:57:20.590 --> 00:57:24.989
I'm like, wait a second here. Oh, boy. We've

00:57:24.989 --> 00:57:28.829
deviated far from Jen's lovely music. What the

00:57:28.829 --> 00:57:36.409
fuck has happened? Back to the music. Men aren't

00:57:36.409 --> 00:57:41.659
angels. Mama Lana is saying that, but what did

00:57:41.659 --> 00:57:44.619
he do to get her started? Men aren't angels.

00:57:44.659 --> 00:57:48.320
Yeah, I agree, Mama Lana. You know? My mom's

00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.239
going to put it back on him. Yeah. I feel like

00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.920
he was one like, yeah, I feel like he, that was

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.900
his MO, like get the ladies amped up enough to

00:57:58.900 --> 00:58:00.900
where he could feel okay to slap them. Well,

00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:02.980
she was fucking nuts. She was coming after me.

00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:06.389
She was calling my mom a whore. I had to. Just

00:58:06.389 --> 00:58:08.110
give her a smack and knock her back to reality.

00:58:08.769 --> 00:58:13.389
Or, or he was like the original daddy. You know,

00:58:13.389 --> 00:58:15.349
I mean, that's, I'm just saying, I'm shit that

00:58:15.349 --> 00:58:19.550
out there, but you know, double Oh nine and a

00:58:19.550 --> 00:58:23.050
half. Cause he was the original. Yeah. Original

00:58:23.050 --> 00:58:29.239
James Bond. yeah but jen so i i think that that's

00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:31.880
going to be our next thing to work for uh next

00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.219
time we have you on so either either we set it

00:58:34.219 --> 00:58:36.739
up to where you do a performance or we set it

00:58:36.739 --> 00:58:39.179
up and we have a backing track and you just lip

00:58:39.179 --> 00:58:40.880
sync over it i didn't know where you were going

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.219
with that when you said oh my god i was like

00:58:43.219 --> 00:58:46.119
what oh god we're gonna set up a slap fighter

00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.079
or what what the fuck that's what i meant actually

00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:54.079
next time you'll be in studio And the moment

00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:55.800
you get too loud, I'm going to give you a nice

00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:01.380
little smack and let you know, hey, now. I mean.

00:59:03.780 --> 00:59:06.460
Have the guys been coming out of the woodwork

00:59:06.460 --> 00:59:10.260
for your new persona now that you're a sexy musician?

00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.519
Are they coming out? You should talk about that

00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:16.840
phone call you had with that guy that you played

00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:21.610
for me. She got some good sexism. She got the

00:59:21.610 --> 00:59:24.570
experience. I don't think this is right. Right.

00:59:24.909 --> 00:59:28.070
Did I overreact? Because I think I told him to

00:59:28.070 --> 00:59:31.250
kiss my ass. Yeah. Yeah. He might've taken it

00:59:31.250 --> 00:59:33.190
literally. So yeah, let us fill us in. What happened

00:59:33.190 --> 00:59:35.909
there, Jen? Well, no, I was, it was actually

00:59:35.909 --> 00:59:40.650
from, he was from TikTok, like someone on there,

00:59:40.710 --> 00:59:44.610
not from TikTok themselves. And they had like

00:59:44.610 --> 00:59:48.000
a company in Austin. and it was him and another

00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.579
guy and i will say i did get like an apology

00:59:50.579 --> 00:59:52.840
email from the other guy from the other guy yeah

00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.199
you did yeah thankfully and that was that was

00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:58.579
who he was talking about in the recording but

00:59:58.579 --> 01:00:02.360
he was like i just i just wanted you to know

01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.179
you know how you get that feeling ahead of time

01:00:04.179 --> 01:00:06.699
you're like this is something's not right like

01:00:06.699 --> 01:00:09.880
from text messages it seemed real sketchy yeah

01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:13.340
and so i just thought like hit i recorded it

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:17.300
when he called And thank goodness I did. But

01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:21.280
he was like, I mean, you just, I'm trying, I'm

01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:23.219
trying to help you out here. Like, you know,

01:00:23.219 --> 01:00:28.179
you need to put in some time and like talk to

01:00:28.179 --> 01:00:30.340
him and did it, but like was making it like it

01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:34.159
was not. He's like, Hey, you need to grab his

01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:38.880
balls while you're talking to him. And he was

01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.320
like beating around the bush, but it was so like.

01:00:43.309 --> 01:00:45.750
obvious at the same time what he was saying and

01:00:45.750 --> 01:00:50.170
whatever and i was like i've got to tell you

01:00:50.170 --> 01:00:53.530
i don't know that i have ever i have zero problem

01:00:53.530 --> 01:00:55.929
making contact with this person to make arrangements

01:00:55.929 --> 01:00:58.690
for this or for that or to answer any questions

01:00:58.690 --> 01:01:02.210
but i've never been told that i needed to chat

01:01:02.210 --> 01:01:04.909
them up and make sure that i this that and the

01:01:04.909 --> 01:01:07.869
other He likes when your nipples are hard, too,

01:01:07.969 --> 01:01:10.190
during the conversation. Right, exactly. Yeah,

01:01:10.190 --> 01:01:12.030
he was trying to act like a middleman between

01:01:12.030 --> 01:01:15.909
you and the other guy. Yeah, yeah. Without needing

01:01:15.909 --> 01:01:17.989
to be a middleman. Here's what's wild. I was

01:01:17.989 --> 01:01:21.510
supposed to be there a few days later. Like,

01:01:21.510 --> 01:01:23.550
I would have been there the day that the album

01:01:23.550 --> 01:01:25.210
came out, but I was supposed to be going to look

01:01:25.210 --> 01:01:27.469
at these venues and da -da -da -da -da, like,

01:01:27.469 --> 01:01:30.969
whatever. And he was, the other guy was going

01:01:30.969 --> 01:01:32.809
to, like, help set up the band and everything

01:01:32.809 --> 01:01:34.909
else to have, and, like, they wanted to set up.

01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:37.860
um like this show to where we could do it here

01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:39.679
like take put it up and take it down here there

01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:43.059
i mean there's all these things in place and

01:01:43.059 --> 01:01:45.480
then i just kind of set fire to it because i

01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:51.280
was like the you say like i'm not excuse me and

01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:54.440
he was like oh okay okay okay like kind of like

01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.199
back down and then once i sat on me for a second

01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.980
i like there was a group text and i was went

01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:03.860
in and i was like hey look like here's the thing

01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:09.059
I am going to back away from all of this because

01:02:09.059 --> 01:02:11.920
I don't work with people who make someone uneasy

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.599
because they are acting as if that I need to

01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:23.079
be overly friendly. Right. For, you know. Yeah,

01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:25.409
it's like, can I get some foreplay here? Yeah,

01:02:25.409 --> 01:02:27.429
the middleman guy was telling her that she needed

01:02:27.429 --> 01:02:29.929
to be more friendly to the guy that he was trying

01:02:29.929 --> 01:02:32.429
to. Yeah, like he's the one with the money and

01:02:32.429 --> 01:02:34.389
you need to da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da. Well,

01:02:34.469 --> 01:02:36.389
I'm sorry. I didn't know blowjobs were on the

01:02:36.389 --> 01:02:40.449
table. Like I just, so I, well, he didn't, that

01:02:40.449 --> 01:02:43.730
was, that was exaggeration there. But I said

01:02:43.730 --> 01:02:46.610
something and he goes, Jen, the first thing he

01:02:46.610 --> 01:02:48.110
said to me on the phone, he was like, you know,

01:02:48.130 --> 01:02:50.409
I'm sure it's a lot because all these men are

01:02:50.409 --> 01:02:52.369
hitting all over you or hitting on you and all

01:02:52.369 --> 01:02:55.199
over you. Like that's a weird conversation to

01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:57.619
have with someone when you first answer the phone

01:02:57.619 --> 01:03:01.940
and you're trying to like plan for me to calm

01:03:01.940 --> 01:03:04.559
down. Like it was very weird. And the way he

01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:06.739
said it was just creepy. And he's like, you know,

01:03:06.780 --> 01:03:08.420
that's not what I meant. And like tried to make

01:03:08.420 --> 01:03:10.960
me look stupid in the text. Wow. So I was like,

01:03:11.019 --> 01:03:14.559
oh, it's okay. Here you go. And I just put the

01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.000
recording in there. Yeah, I just put the recording

01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:18.659
in there. I was like, well, you know, be that

01:03:18.659 --> 01:03:20.840
as it may, you can see what the other person's

01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:22.960
saying about you and trying to get people to

01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:29.579
do. Wow. But I got a lengthy, I got a real lengthy

01:03:29.579 --> 01:03:31.699
apology from the other person. He was like, I

01:03:31.699 --> 01:03:33.980
don't know what he was trying to do, but, and

01:03:33.980 --> 01:03:35.780
I truly believe him. The other guy seemed on

01:03:35.780 --> 01:03:38.280
the up and up and very, you know, did the whole

01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:41.019
time. Every conversation and meeting I'd had

01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:44.929
with them. But that guy. chad i hope when you're

01:03:44.929 --> 01:03:47.230
booking weinstein -esque you know harvey yeah

01:03:47.230 --> 01:03:51.090
it was weird yeah and i'm sure that happens unfortunately

01:03:51.090 --> 01:03:53.329
i'm sure that happens all the time and someone

01:03:53.329 --> 01:03:57.690
with you know um less i think had i been 20 i

01:03:57.690 --> 01:03:59.389
would have totally i was just gonna say someone

01:03:59.389 --> 01:04:06.409
is younger um well the thing is you wouldn't

01:04:06.409 --> 01:04:09.269
have recognized the innuendo right well but i

01:04:09.269 --> 01:04:12.239
think that I don't think the other guy would

01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:14.380
have even, that's, it did not, he did not have

01:04:14.380 --> 01:04:17.000
that, that anything about him that screamed that,

01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:18.940
but that one, I wouldn't have been in a room

01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:23.619
by myself with him. Like, or left with his appendages

01:04:23.619 --> 01:04:28.400
hurting. And not in a good way. I hope you're

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.539
doing this when you book guests on the gracious

01:04:30.539 --> 01:04:32.579
to like letting them know, like, uh, by the way,

01:04:32.619 --> 01:04:37.690
my cohost might need a BJ. How do you think I

01:04:37.690 --> 01:04:40.949
get guests on here? That's what I like to hear,

01:04:41.010 --> 01:04:44.929
my man. It's not going to be me. I'm sure these

01:04:44.929 --> 01:04:47.329
guys are hitting on you, but hey, you got to

01:04:47.329 --> 01:04:50.289
be nice to John. That's it. A little extra nice.

01:04:51.150 --> 01:04:54.630
You can go places when you're nice to John. That's

01:04:54.630 --> 01:04:57.510
it. Ladies, if you want to get booked on here,

01:04:57.730 --> 01:05:02.650
you know what you need to do. And feminine men.

01:05:03.849 --> 01:05:09.449
I'm the slimy guy. Great. Yeah. Hey now. So yeah,

01:05:09.530 --> 01:05:11.369
this is exciting. So yeah, we're not going to,

01:05:11.369 --> 01:05:13.190
you're not, this is not like an album a year

01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:15.570
type of deal you're going to, but you are planning

01:05:15.570 --> 01:05:18.349
on doing music down the road and stuff like that.

01:05:19.030 --> 01:05:21.530
Yeah. I plan on doing more. It's just, I was

01:05:21.530 --> 01:05:24.349
like, I feel like they really thought I was going

01:05:24.349 --> 01:05:26.389
to do like an album every couple of months or

01:05:26.389 --> 01:05:28.969
something. I was like, no guys, I can't, that's

01:05:28.969 --> 01:05:32.769
not doable. So. We'll see. And I was, I was going

01:05:32.769 --> 01:05:34.630
to say, don't succumb to the pressure either

01:05:34.630 --> 01:05:36.610
because like this first album you put out is

01:05:36.610 --> 01:05:38.449
real. It's a good album and you don't want like

01:05:38.449 --> 01:05:40.690
a sophomore slump just because you're trying

01:05:40.690 --> 01:05:45.570
to appease fans. Yeah. Yeah. You know what you're

01:05:45.570 --> 01:05:48.690
doing, Jen? You don't need it. I don't, I don't,

01:05:48.690 --> 01:05:52.190
I like, I, I, I bug Chad and Bill. I just bug

01:05:52.190 --> 01:05:54.309
people about it and ask questions, but like,

01:05:54.429 --> 01:05:58.650
you know, this is the first thing that I've put

01:05:58.650 --> 01:06:02.000
out that I actually listened to. I know that

01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.019
sounds, you know, I'm the others I've listened

01:06:04.019 --> 01:06:06.619
to because I've had not had to, but like, it's

01:06:06.619 --> 01:06:08.239
not that I don't like them or I'm not proud of

01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:12.420
them, but like, yeah, I enjoy it. Yeah. So that's,

01:06:12.420 --> 01:06:16.219
that's awesome. Yeah. A hundred percent. And

01:06:16.219 --> 01:06:18.159
like I said, it's, it's, it's catchy right off

01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:20.199
the bat. There's not, you know, especially music

01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:23.340
nowadays, it's like, it needs to grow on you

01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:26.739
or it never grows on you. But this is a, like

01:06:26.739 --> 01:06:28.719
I said, I picked out five and everyone like,

01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.269
right. By the time I got to the chorus, I was

01:06:31.269 --> 01:06:34.389
like, I'm into it. I was feeling it. I appreciate

01:06:34.389 --> 01:06:38.570
it. Of course. Sorry. Everyone loves to call

01:06:38.570 --> 01:06:41.869
me or text me when I'm doing the podcast. God

01:06:41.869 --> 01:06:45.369
dang it. Jen, we're going to leave you with this,

01:06:45.389 --> 01:06:49.949
a nice little funny video. And I feel like you

01:06:49.949 --> 01:06:52.489
would want your gentlemen, whenever they are

01:06:52.489 --> 01:06:55.030
there, to propose to you like these guys do.

01:06:55.150 --> 01:06:58.389
Wait till you see some of the follies that happened

01:06:58.389 --> 01:07:03.250
over here. This is a... Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Get

01:07:03.250 --> 01:07:27.050
ready, folks. Oh! Uh -oh, what happens here?

01:07:28.710 --> 01:07:35.590
No! That's fucked up. Damn. Oh, come on. Wow.

01:07:37.409 --> 01:07:40.510
Loaded for a little bit. Good toss, dumbass.

01:07:40.889 --> 01:07:44.179
Jesus. This is not going to end well. Oh, geez.

01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:46.780
Right out of the pocket. He's going right in.

01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:57.199
Slow -mo is great. Oh, Titanic. Gotcha. There

01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:03.500
we go. Oh. Come on, really? This is not going

01:08:03.500 --> 01:08:07.780
to end well. We know this. Why would you? Oh,

01:08:07.780 --> 01:08:17.479
it's her. This is a whole boat tip. I'm not sure.

01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:28.979
Oh, good stuff. You know, it's it's they should

01:08:28.979 --> 01:08:32.380
leave water out. That was to say boats and water.

01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:36.380
Yeah. Yeah. It's like they're doing this elaborate

01:08:36.380 --> 01:08:39.449
stupid things for the, you know. so they can

01:08:39.449 --> 01:08:41.649
make a video and put it on Instagram. But it's

01:08:41.649 --> 01:08:44.329
also great to have so we can see it. Honestly,

01:08:44.470 --> 01:08:47.590
it's probably did better on things because they

01:08:47.590 --> 01:08:51.050
did something stupid and foul or threw it in

01:08:51.050 --> 01:08:54.829
the ocean. I mean, if you went as far as to set

01:08:54.829 --> 01:08:57.090
up cameras, have other people there to hold the

01:08:57.090 --> 01:08:59.010
camera and stuff like that, and you're on water,

01:08:59.130 --> 01:09:01.670
I feel like you would take an extra step to maybe

01:09:01.670 --> 01:09:03.970
tie the ring around a fucking rope or something.

01:09:04.270 --> 01:09:06.670
Or maybe, I don't know, have someone that can

01:09:06.670 --> 01:09:09.119
actually toss. And someone that can actually

01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.399
catch. Like, I just, I mean, I don't know. I

01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:17.579
just. You would think. The one on the waterfall

01:09:17.579 --> 01:09:19.720
is the best. As soon as you're like, this is

01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.500
not going to end well. I mean, they're literally

01:09:21.500 --> 01:09:23.659
on a waterfall. I thought it was going to be.

01:09:23.659 --> 01:09:25.560
And you know those rocks are slippery as hell.

01:09:25.899 --> 01:09:27.579
Like, I mean, you don't even, it's not just,

01:09:27.659 --> 01:09:29.279
oh, there's water. Like, those are slippery.

01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:34.899
Oh, yeah. Like ice. Worse than ice. Slick. You

01:09:34.899 --> 01:09:37.979
know, common sense isn't common anymore. Oh my

01:09:37.979 --> 01:09:41.239
God, please. We have been bitching about that

01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.140
for a very long time. That common sense has just

01:09:44.140 --> 01:09:49.699
gone by the wayside. No longer here. Yeah. And

01:09:49.699 --> 01:09:53.300
then they expect you to have, you to find it

01:09:53.300 --> 01:09:57.319
acceptable. That's what's wild. Yeah. I can't

01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.159
deal with stupid. I do well with it. but we've

01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:02.279
been dealing with it for a minute now like i

01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:05.680
i don't think before i guess it was like around

01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:09.699
2020 that i i realized like majority of the world

01:10:09.699 --> 01:10:13.479
is like stupid like almost stupid and the audacity

01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.680
level is just like at an all -time high yeah

01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:21.100
it's baffling like how can you hold up a sign

01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:23.949
that says like, this is a stop sign. Like you're

01:10:23.949 --> 01:10:25.369
holding up a stop sign and then you're telling

01:10:25.369 --> 01:10:27.510
people like, this is not a stop sign that I'm

01:10:27.510 --> 01:10:29.510
holding up. This is a go sign. And we're like,

01:10:29.529 --> 01:10:32.109
wait, but we see it. It's a stop sign. And you're

01:10:32.109 --> 01:10:34.050
telling me it's not like, that's how blatantly

01:10:34.050 --> 01:10:36.529
they just fucking lie to people right now. I

01:10:36.529 --> 01:10:40.270
mean, but you can also have a dick and say that

01:10:40.270 --> 01:10:43.090
you don't nowadays. So, you know, like I feel

01:10:43.090 --> 01:10:46.789
like there's a lot of blurred lines going on.

01:10:46.810 --> 01:10:49.069
That's how it all starts. You can say you're

01:10:49.069 --> 01:10:53.449
a cat because you say meow. So when litter boxes

01:10:53.449 --> 01:10:55.850
came into play, I gave up on everything. I just

01:10:55.850 --> 01:11:00.409
like, I was done. I was done thinking anything

01:11:00.409 --> 01:11:02.489
was okay anymore. That's the whole point. When

01:11:02.489 --> 01:11:04.449
you can distort reality like that, then you can

01:11:04.449 --> 01:11:06.670
lie about anything or make up anything. I wish

01:11:06.670 --> 01:11:08.930
I could believe it that way. I mean, honestly,

01:11:09.189 --> 01:11:11.069
I want to know what stupid pill they took because

01:11:11.069 --> 01:11:13.750
there's some days that I would like to be that

01:11:13.750 --> 01:11:16.210
delusional. Like I would really enjoy that. Like

01:11:16.210 --> 01:11:18.010
I could just be like, you know what? My life

01:11:18.010 --> 01:11:21.640
is so good right now. And like. It really just

01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.960
appeared that way to me. Like if I was in high

01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.600
school, if I was in high school and I could just

01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:30.060
like tell the administration, like, yeah, I'm

01:11:30.060 --> 01:11:31.800
thinking I want to transition. Like, I feel like

01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:34.319
I'm a girl just so I can go into the ladies locker

01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:36.659
rooms. I would have a hundred percent done that

01:11:36.659 --> 01:11:41.680
as a high schooler. Or you suck at sports. So

01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.079
you're like, I think I'm going to run a girl's

01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:49.359
track instead. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. It's

01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.800
insane. And we're going to leave them with that.

01:11:51.859 --> 01:11:56.140
The one and only Jen Smith, folks. Jen, tell

01:11:56.140 --> 01:11:58.579
them where they could get your album and where

01:11:58.579 --> 01:12:02.359
you're at on social media. Well, on TikTok, Instagram,

01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.159
Facebook, anywhere that's social media. It's

01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:08.680
under jensmith843. Literally means nothing, y

01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.739
'all. Don't even ask it. Just numbers. And then

01:12:11.739 --> 01:12:16.479
music -wise, Apple, Amazon, Spotify, anywhere,

01:12:16.539 --> 01:12:20.180
any streaming service. Just under Jen Smith and

01:12:20.180 --> 01:12:23.140
then the new albums inside thoughts. Yes. And

01:12:23.140 --> 01:12:25.699
we're going, she's working on music videos, folks.

01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.539
And if you remember the advice I gave her last

01:12:28.539 --> 01:12:32.460
time, scantily clad in it or swimming, you know,

01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:34.659
things of that nature. That'll make the video

01:12:34.659 --> 01:12:39.579
pop. Yeah. Jen Smith inside thoughts. Go get

01:12:39.579 --> 01:12:42.220
that album. Do you want them to stream it? Can

01:12:42.220 --> 01:12:44.699
they. Do you have like a download thing where

01:12:44.699 --> 01:12:46.520
they could download it? They can do any of it.

01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.159
Yeah, either which way. I mean, honestly, streams

01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:53.239
do good for numbers, but you can download it

01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.319
too. Boom. Either which way. The one and only

01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:58.100
Jen Smith, folks. Thank you so much for coming

01:12:58.100 --> 01:13:00.899
on. Get that album, Inside Thoughts. It's a good

01:13:00.899 --> 01:13:04.319
listen to, I promise. I wouldn't say it if I

01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:06.180
didn't mean it. Although I do say some things

01:13:06.180 --> 01:13:08.460
on here I don't mean, but I wouldn't give you

01:13:08.460 --> 01:13:12.369
that much of a... if I didn't mean it. Really

01:13:12.369 --> 01:13:16.909
good catchy tunes. Fun, fun stuff, Mr. Gracie.

01:13:17.010 --> 01:13:19.050
Did you have any other videos you wanted Mr.

01:13:19.170 --> 01:13:21.989
Bobby to play before we... Yeah, I think that

01:13:21.989 --> 01:13:25.229
was the last video I sent today or yesterday.

01:13:25.250 --> 01:13:27.170
Bobby, as you're pulling that up, I'm going to

01:13:27.170 --> 01:13:29.130
play one more for the audience here. This is

01:13:29.130 --> 01:13:34.409
our president putting Mexico on fucking notice,

01:13:34.529 --> 01:13:41.829
Chad, for this. Here we go. in Mexico or putting

01:13:41.829 --> 01:13:44.569
American troops or American personnel into Mexico

01:13:44.569 --> 01:13:46.149
to deal with drugs? Would I launch strikes in

01:13:46.149 --> 01:13:50.689
Mexico to stop drugs? It's okay with me. I've

01:13:50.689 --> 01:13:53.689
been speaking to Mexico. They know how I stand.

01:13:54.149 --> 01:13:57.189
We're losing hundreds of thousands of people

01:13:57.189 --> 01:13:59.909
to drugs. So now we've stopped the waterways.

01:14:00.050 --> 01:14:02.869
But we know every route. We know every route.

01:14:02.890 --> 01:14:06.130
We know the addresses of every drug lord. We

01:14:06.130 --> 01:14:08.890
know their address. We know their front door.

01:14:09.609 --> 01:14:11.930
We know everything about every one of them. They're

01:14:11.930 --> 01:14:14.789
killing our people. That's like a war. Would

01:14:14.789 --> 01:14:19.710
I do it? I'd be proud to. Let's fucking go. It's

01:14:19.710 --> 01:14:22.869
interesting because I would believe all those

01:14:22.869 --> 01:14:25.090
statements about they know where every drug lord

01:14:25.090 --> 01:14:27.350
lives. They know all their routes because they've

01:14:27.350 --> 01:14:31.270
been flying electronic surveillance right by

01:14:31.270 --> 01:14:34.949
the border and right off the coast for the past

01:14:34.949 --> 01:14:37.279
like 10 months, 9, 10 months. collecting all

01:14:37.279 --> 01:14:39.600
their cell phone data, everything. That's what

01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.020
they did for terror. You know, the terrorism

01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:45.340
in fucking Afghanistan and Iraq. Um, so, but

01:14:45.340 --> 01:14:48.039
they know where they live. Isn't it crazy though,

01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.600
that if America really wanted, like he's showing

01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:54.079
that if we didn't want drugs in this country,

01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.020
we could absolutely stop it. And they could have

01:14:57.020 --> 01:15:00.260
done this a long time ago, but yet they're just

01:15:00.260 --> 01:15:02.920
propping up cartels. Somebody's making money

01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:05.300
off it so they could fund some black budget.

01:15:06.789 --> 01:15:08.930
One of the reasons the border was open because

01:15:08.930 --> 01:15:11.489
the cartels were making billions of dollars in

01:15:11.489 --> 01:15:13.430
trafficking people. You don't think there was

01:15:13.430 --> 01:15:16.850
kickbacks going on with that? Yep. Give me a

01:15:16.850 --> 01:15:23.689
break. You got that video, Bob A. Yay? Nay? The

01:15:23.689 --> 01:15:26.069
one I think you sent it to the gracious? Yeah,

01:15:26.109 --> 01:15:30.409
it was one of the black ones. 622 a .d and he

01:15:30.409 --> 01:15:33.390
goes to medina which was a jewish city and the

01:15:33.390 --> 01:15:35.489
jews let him in as a muslim immigrant he goes

01:15:35.489 --> 01:15:37.210
into the minority neighborhoods begins to get

01:15:37.210 --> 01:15:39.789
a following his following grows he gets involved

01:15:39.789 --> 01:15:42.630
in politics and he insists that the jews make

01:15:42.630 --> 01:15:44.729
a treaty with him now he's a political leader

01:15:44.729 --> 01:15:48.310
and then he allows his followers to rob caravans

01:15:48.310 --> 01:15:49.970
headed back to Mecca, and he becomes a military

01:15:49.970 --> 01:15:52.270
leader. And so within five years of Mohammed

01:15:52.270 --> 01:15:54.670
coming into the Jewish city of Medina, there's

01:15:54.670 --> 01:15:56.689
not a Jew left in the city of Medina. They were

01:15:56.689 --> 01:15:58.430
chased out, killed, or enslaved. And so it's

01:15:58.430 --> 01:16:00.470
a three -step process. Come in as an immigrant,

01:16:00.670 --> 01:16:02.909
go into minority neighborhoods, and build a political

01:16:02.909 --> 01:16:05.090
following and get involved in politics. And then

01:16:05.090 --> 01:16:07.029
you have random outbreaks of violence that drive

01:16:07.029 --> 01:16:08.850
out the previous inhabitants of the neighborhood,

01:16:08.989 --> 01:16:11.010
and they take over neighborhood by neighborhood,

01:16:11.109 --> 01:16:12.970
city by city, country by country. There's a 1

01:16:12.970 --> 01:16:15.109
,400 -year track record to watch this happening.

01:16:15.270 --> 01:16:16.770
I put it in a book called Whatever You Want.

01:16:16.750 --> 01:16:18.569
America needs to know about the Quran, a history

01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:20.930
of Islam in the United States. So crime going

01:16:20.930 --> 01:16:23.289
up is their goal. Why? Because if crime goes

01:16:23.289 --> 01:16:26.159
up in the big city, Pro -family people and pro

01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:27.720
-small business people leave. Well, they're a

01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:29.520
higher percentage Republican. Who's left in the

01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:31.239
city? More people on welfare. They're a higher

01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:33.659
percentage Democrat. And so when crime goes up,

01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:35.380
the Democrats get a monopoly on city politics.

01:16:35.539 --> 01:16:37.640
And in election years, whoever wins the big city

01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.359
wins the state. Whoever wins the state gets all

01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.359
the electoral votes. Presidents elected by electoral

01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:43.359
votes. So this is their goal. They want to go

01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.140
into the cities and have crime go up so that

01:16:45.140 --> 01:16:47.199
the Republicans leave. If they win that big city,

01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:49.079
they win the whole state. And then they can take

01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:54.800
the country. I mean. Whatever you want to say,

01:16:54.899 --> 01:16:56.760
it's a fucking plan and they're implementing

01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.340
it. That's what they're doing. And it's not by

01:16:59.340 --> 01:17:01.680
chance that these mayors are getting elected

01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.659
in all these blue cities, these Muslim mayors

01:17:04.659 --> 01:17:08.300
and Muslim city councils, and the left is helping

01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:12.760
them. If it's an enemy of our way of life, the

01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.119
left will help them do it. It's fucking wild.

01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:17.659
And it's crazy when you, cause you, everything

01:17:17.659 --> 01:17:19.600
that gentleman said, like you knew it, but when

01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:21.439
you hear it just said in black and white and

01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:23.640
in those terms, it's like, wow, how the fuck

01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.500
does not everybody else see this and know this?

01:17:25.619 --> 01:17:27.640
It's like, and he was talking about the prophet

01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:29.859
Muhammad. That's what he, that's, he started

01:17:29.859 --> 01:17:31.720
the whole process. It's a three -step process.

01:17:32.220 --> 01:17:35.020
Yeah. That I did not know by the way. Yeah. I

01:17:35.020 --> 01:17:36.340
didn't know that either until that guy was talking

01:17:36.340 --> 01:17:38.579
about it, but it's very interesting. And it's

01:17:38.579 --> 01:17:40.439
like, that's what's happening. Like, and now

01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:43.659
it's the Democrats support socialism and now

01:17:43.659 --> 01:17:46.609
they're supporting. And now they're supporting

01:17:46.609 --> 01:17:49.409
one guy that has both of them, socialism and

01:17:49.409 --> 01:17:53.170
Muslim in New York. And they elected him to be

01:17:53.170 --> 01:17:55.710
the mayor of New York. And it's like, oh, no,

01:17:56.090 --> 01:17:58.670
it's you know, it doesn't have it. Maybe Muslim

01:17:58.670 --> 01:18:00.510
doesn't have anything to do with anything. Are

01:18:00.510 --> 01:18:03.390
you kidding me? You kidding me? What do you think?

01:18:03.430 --> 01:18:05.029
What do you think happens with Mamdani, Chad?

01:18:05.050 --> 01:18:07.189
Like, do you think he's just going to be in there

01:18:07.189 --> 01:18:09.270
barking and not getting anything across? Or do

01:18:09.270 --> 01:18:10.449
you think he's actually going to be able to get

01:18:10.449 --> 01:18:11.770
some of this social? I don't think he's going

01:18:11.770 --> 01:18:14.750
to be able to do any. any of the fucking shit

01:18:14.750 --> 01:18:16.210
he wants to do because it has to go up to the

01:18:16.210 --> 01:18:19.010
state level. And Hochul has already come out

01:18:19.010 --> 01:18:21.949
and said, we're not raising taxes. The MTA buses

01:18:21.949 --> 01:18:23.970
aren't going to be free. They're, I think, $10

01:18:23.970 --> 01:18:26.869
billion in the hole already. And so you're just

01:18:26.869 --> 01:18:28.930
going to give them away for free. Like the city

01:18:28.930 --> 01:18:31.170
grocery stores, maybe he can implement something

01:18:31.170 --> 01:18:34.789
like that on the city level. Those will fail

01:18:34.789 --> 01:18:38.590
because they always do. And it's, you know, it's

01:18:38.590 --> 01:18:42.180
these white liberal women who... went to college

01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:44.819
or overeducated and think that they are going

01:18:44.819 --> 01:18:47.359
to create some utopia because they can't make

01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:49.399
it in the real world. It's fucking wild, man.

01:18:49.899 --> 01:18:51.979
And it's the people that voted for him. Most

01:18:51.979 --> 01:18:53.720
of the people that voted for the strongest voting

01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:55.300
block where people have lived in New York less

01:18:55.300 --> 01:19:01.260
than five years. Yeah. I mean, are they going

01:19:01.260 --> 01:19:04.500
to be so liberated and, you know, worried about

01:19:04.500 --> 01:19:07.039
jobs when they're wearing fucking whatever, covering

01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:09.619
their face and fucking can't. That's the thing.

01:19:09.659 --> 01:19:12.409
It was a liberal. liberal women in iran that

01:19:12.409 --> 01:19:14.689
brought the shawl into power and now look at

01:19:14.689 --> 01:19:16.170
them they're stoned to death they have to wear

01:19:16.170 --> 01:19:18.149
the hijabs they're totally covered they can't

01:19:18.149 --> 01:19:21.989
show their skin oh that sounds great are you

01:19:21.989 --> 01:19:25.149
are you happy now dude i listened to a thing

01:19:25.149 --> 01:19:29.449
about the women's lib movement and uh it was

01:19:29.449 --> 01:19:32.649
either a rothschild or a rockefeller that was

01:19:32.649 --> 01:19:36.789
like a major part of it although silent like

01:19:36.789 --> 01:19:38.710
you didn't know but he was funding like the women's

01:19:38.710 --> 01:19:41.239
lib movement And then somebody's asking him why.

01:19:41.619 --> 01:19:45.020
And he goes, because that's half of the country

01:19:45.020 --> 01:19:47.000
that I can't tax. He goes, so if these women

01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.100
go to work, then I could tax them as well. He

01:19:49.100 --> 01:19:51.739
goes, and also if both the mother and father

01:19:51.739 --> 01:19:54.399
are working, then the kids start looking to the

01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.380
schools as their family unit. And we could indoctrinate

01:19:57.380 --> 01:20:00.680
the kids a lot easier because they, you know,

01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:02.989
hold more credence into. you know, the administration

01:20:02.989 --> 01:20:05.149
and they do their parents. I'm like, wow, that

01:20:05.149 --> 01:20:07.489
is sinister. And you know, women's lib, you're

01:20:07.489 --> 01:20:09.270
like, that's gotta be a great thing, but he did

01:20:09.270 --> 01:20:12.149
it for the wrong reasons. And, and it was to

01:20:12.149 --> 01:20:15.170
tax the women, put them to work and tax them

01:20:15.170 --> 01:20:16.909
and then also get them out of the house. So they

01:20:16.909 --> 01:20:18.930
weren't raising the children and they were basically

01:20:18.930 --> 01:20:21.430
being raised by, you know, an institution that

01:20:21.430 --> 01:20:23.890
can indoctrinate whatever ideals they wanted

01:20:23.890 --> 01:20:29.430
to. It's crazy. And, um, fuck man but but it's

01:20:29.430 --> 01:20:31.470
all sold under like oh it's great this can be

01:20:31.470 --> 01:20:34.310
great you know you're free you can vote like

01:20:34.310 --> 01:20:37.770
yeah but you know that's that as i always say

01:20:37.770 --> 01:20:40.350
like especially the left they have great marketing

01:20:40.350 --> 01:20:43.109
like they come up with great titles for things

01:20:43.109 --> 01:20:45.289
and like black lives matter for instance like

01:20:45.289 --> 01:20:47.550
you know yeah black lives matter yeah we all

01:20:47.550 --> 01:20:50.350
get that but it's it's but they don't do anything

01:20:50.350 --> 01:20:52.770
for black people they didn't do shit for black

01:20:52.770 --> 01:20:55.510
people They collected a shit ton of money, they

01:20:55.510 --> 01:20:57.409
bought mansions, and then they sent the rest

01:20:57.409 --> 01:20:59.689
of the money to the Democrat fricking election

01:20:59.689 --> 01:21:02.050
apparatus. They didn't do anything for black

01:21:02.050 --> 01:21:05.670
people. Nothing. Just a couple at the top that,

01:21:05.710 --> 01:21:07.130
like you said, got the mansions and whatever

01:21:07.130 --> 01:21:09.289
else they were spending the money on. Black Lives

01:21:09.289 --> 01:21:12.729
Matter. Great, great, great title for an organization.

01:21:13.069 --> 01:21:15.430
Absolutely. But then, you know, it's like, oh,

01:21:15.449 --> 01:21:19.729
all lives matter. That's racist. Totally. How

01:21:19.729 --> 01:21:23.140
dare you? You're including everybody. Yeah. Sorry

01:21:23.140 --> 01:21:26.880
about that. Crazy. All right, let's bring on

01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.699
Bobby to say goodbye to the audience. Another

01:21:28.699 --> 01:21:31.880
gracious Tuesday. Bobby, you want to say anything

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you, everybody. Thank you, everyone, for coming

01:22:53.390 --> 01:22:56.510
in. All the great comments. Hey, Jamie's in there.

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Can you smell the... Can you imagine the smell

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under that burka? The one and only. Go, Jamie,

01:23:05.750 --> 01:23:09.029
Jamie, Jamie. Just the great one -liners. Oh,

01:23:09.090 --> 01:23:11.489
yeah. Come on the damn show. Yeah, when you're

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coming on, Jamie, we see your videos out there.

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You're dancing and all that jazz and you're...

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where you mimic over the words and stuff like

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that. So come on the show, dear lady. Corenza,

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what up? Everybody, gracious audience, we will

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see you next Tuesday. Peace.