The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 113 - Pushing The Limits (Brian Shapiro)

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And we are live, Mr. Gracey Show 113, my man.

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Howdy. 113, yes. Sweet. I want to get the 169,

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baby. Let's go. Let's go. Lucky show 113. Yes.

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Cool. Voice of the people. What is going on?

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I'm John Rotolo, J -Ro. Of the people. That's

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right. And I'm Chad Gracey. Welcome. We are your

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co -host. Gracious Two Style. What's up? Hey, hey,

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hey. Hey, how you doing, man? I didn't ask you

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before on the pre -call. How you doing? I'm getting,

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I'm definitely getting better. I'm just getting

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annoyed now that I can't do like the shit that

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I used to do, but I'm healing. It's still, still

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sore and shit. It's still healed wrong. So if

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anything, I would need to get it re -broken,

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but I'm not doing that. No, no, no. Chick -tig

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scars and fucking. rib deformations. Well, yeah,

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the scars and stuff. This looks fucking weird,

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man. You know, I take off my shirt and it's like,

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Oh, what is that? I had a friend who played pro

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football and his clavicle was broken and they

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didn't reset it. And so it's also it's like,

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you know, crazy. Yeah. And that's pretty much

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something you could see sticking out of clothes.

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Yeah. Is that a bomb Dutch shirt? Yes, sir. I'm

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bringing it back. Yes. That's right. Yep. That's

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fucking awesome. Yeah, man. They're they make

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some cool shit. Yeah, we had a friend who worked

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for Von Dutch back in when was it? The 2000s

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when it was big. Yeah. That's what we got. The

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hats were huge. Yeah. Hats and t -shirts. Nice,

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bro. Might have to raid your closet. I don't

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have it anymore. Throw it all away because it

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was like, oh, this shit's stupid now. And now

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it's back. Yeah. That's how it happens. Hey,

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that's how it is, my man. I'm bringing back bell

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bottoms, too. So get ready for that. You know

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what I want to see come back? Low -waisted jeans.

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Fuck yes. Where the cracks hanging out a little

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bit. Fuck yes. Those are the best jeans, my friend.

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What is with the mom high -waisted jeans? What

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are you doing, ladies? They've been around for

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about two years now. They've been really popular.

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I'm like, we did this in the 80s. They suck,

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man. Come on. Let's help the ladies out here.

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It's like, great. Low -waisted and shaved bushes,

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man. Let's get back to that. Yeah, but let's

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help the ladies out here, Chad. No high -waisted

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mom jeans. Take the fillers out of your face.

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We don't want to look at ducks. Natural is better.

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Like, less makeup is better. I don't want to...

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Yeah, well, that's always a trend, too. I remember

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it was heavy makeup in the 80s, and then the

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90s came, and it was kind of like, oh, more of

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the natural look. And then it fucking went crazy

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again. I mean, God, you walk into a Sephora now

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with like my girls, they're 11. They want to

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go on Sephora. I'm like, and it's just full of

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11, 12, 13 teenagers. I'm like, what the hell's

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going on? It's just a whole. Right. I don't think

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they had makeup stores in the 90s. I think they

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had like makeup sections of stores of department

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stores. Yeah. And then Sephora along and Alta

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and all those. I mean, when this trend goes away,

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those stores are going to be hurting. Oh, yeah.

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All that inventory. I mean, they have every shade

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of, you know, color. It used to be like white,

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black and like Chinese colors that you could

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buy. Now it's like every shade in between. You

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could look like a Crayola crayon box if you wanted

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to. It's freaking nuts. I mean, you know, you

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watch these girls are doing all this contouring

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and shit. tip of their nose is whiter and then

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they got the line and like, what? Yeah. Come

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on, man. Like that's real deception. That's not

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like you're covering up a blemish. That's like

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you're literally changing the shape of your face.

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Yes. Even the heavy makeup in the 80s was not

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like all the contouring and like crazy looking

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stuff, you know, it's like eye shadow and yeah,

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maybe some rouge and some lipstick. But now it's

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like foundation and fucking contouring and like.

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Everything's covered with spackle and everything's

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perfectly smooth. Looks like you're a frigging

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model stand. It's like right. Yeah, totally.

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It's like and then like, you know, it is what

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it is. Like if it makes you feel better. Hey,

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by all means, I'm just saying as a dude, it's

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false advertisement and we don't like it nearly

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as much as your natural. You know, beauty. It's

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like a chick wearing whatever it's called, skims

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or spinks or whatever. Spanks, yes. Yes, spanks.

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And then you go to hook up and, you know, maybe

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you're getting in a shower before the hook up

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and all of a sudden her face melts and she's

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fucking 30 pounds heavier than what you thought.

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You're like, wait a minute here, dude. This is

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not happening right now. Yeah. And if you make

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out with them while they have their makeup on,

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then you have it all over your face. Right foundation

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like I've I've made out with a couple girls and

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then I'll wipe my face. I'm like, oh my god to

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get a towel Jesus I'm wearing makeup now. What

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happened? Yeah, they got sparkles on and everything

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Hey God bless Yeah, it used to be just strippers

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that did it but you know, right the glittering

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me. Oh, yeah exactly. Yeah. Yeah glitter But

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it's crazy. I mean, you have airbrush makeup

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where it's like literally you're putting a cake

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over your face and, you know, it's like you might

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as well wear a mask, you know, get one of those

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CIA masks. Yeah. I mean, what's the difference?

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Then they just pull their mask off. Right. They

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look totally different. It's like Scooby Doo.

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It's like, hey, wait a second here. That's Mr.

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Fucking Whoever. But yeah, what would be the

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difference if a guy wore like you're an ugly

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dude and you wore this thin mask to make you

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look like handsome and then all of a sudden you

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get home and you're like, oh, hey, peel it off.

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You're like, whoa, dude, what the fuck happened

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there from a nine? Yeah, from a nine to a three

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real quick. Mr. Brian Shapiro coming on today,

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pushing the limits talk show right out of Las

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Vegas. Guys, crazy, man. He's unlike Brian. He's

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on like Pierce Morgan regularly doing some stuff.

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I got to talk to him about just being in that

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constant light of arguing almost. You know what

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I'm saying? Like you're constantly battling.

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I mean, we talk about shit here and there, but

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we're not like fighting with fucking people on

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a regular. He seems to, you know, seems to be

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how it goes with with him because a heavy political

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show. So it's like he puts people on that. don't

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agree with him or he goes on shows where they

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don't agree with them so it's a lot of battling

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i'm just wondering how that how that is personally

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if it works into his personal yeah i mean obviously

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he's a great debater and um master debater master

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master debater exactly yes was he i like i was

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curious if he was like on debate the debate club

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back in like high school and stuff you know yeah

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good good point uh All the audience out there,

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we see you guys coming in loud and proud. Karenza,

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what up? Daphne, how are you? Lori, only wear

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makeup sometimes on the weekends. Let's go, girl.

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That's what I'm talking about, Loray. Keep it

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going, girl. But you're married anyway. Your

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husband doesn't care about you. And then the

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other thing is like the big friggin' eyelashes.

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Yeah. Those are out of control. Like, and then

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the gigantic nails like. I told you one time

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with a girl who had long nails not like super

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long not like this long but like long enough

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and She we're having like a coffee at like earth

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and Laguna Beach and I'm waiting for her and

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she's like, uh, she texts me She's like, hey,

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could you come give me a hand? I'm like sure

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what's going on? I get over there She can't get

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her friggin credit card out of the meter. Oh

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my god, those are nails are too long Out of the

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what? The parking meter. Oh, the parking meter.

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You know how sometimes you slide the card in,

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the old ones? Yeah. You couldn't turn your credit

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card out of it. I'm like, wow. OK, sure. Yeah,

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I mean, you probably need. Exactly. Oh, you're

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not married, Laurie. OK. Maybe like she probably

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needs help wiping her, you know privates because

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I don't know exactly how if you can't get a credit

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card out of a machine Because your nails are

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too long. How the hell are you wiping and stuff?

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Oh my god, that's gonna be fucking hard, man

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What's going on? Yeah, exactly. I saw this one

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chick back in the day, dude She her nails were

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so long. They started to wrap around and they

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were like naturally just natural Well, my God,

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I'm like, and she had them on all four of the

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fingers, and they curled like three times. I'm

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like, you must have been growing those for like

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five years, and that's disgusting. Like, what

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is caught in those rolls of nails? Like, when

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my nails get a little too long just as a dude,

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like, you know, black stuff could get underneath

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them pretty quickly, and... Oh, yeah, go watch

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a YouTube video of, like, they take samples of

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what's under your nails just on a daily basis,

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like... Take samples and they look at under microscope.

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It is disgusting I could imagine little little

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parasitic bugs in there and friggin bacteria

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and all kinds of nasty shit Makes you not ever

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want to like even put a nail anywhere near your

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mouth Yeah agreed a motherfucking greed Let's

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fuck is this thing? What do you do with this?

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Like, how does this work? And you just have to

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get an app to read them. Oh, that's right. I

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wonder how they keep track. I wonder how they

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keep track of all these QR codes. Like, they

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seem to be made up on the spot, but do they actually

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speak a language? Like, is there not a way to

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have two point to the same website? You know

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what I'm saying? Like, if you put in the gracious

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to dot com, is there only one way to make that

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QR code? Like, is it a language or something

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or is it? just kind of randomly made pattern

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always the same yeah right yes i guess i don't

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know i got still wonder i got still wonder what's

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bobby saying qr code was designed using a go

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board okay what is that oh he can explain ah

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do you want to come on to explain bobby wants

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to read it for you let's let's bring him on for

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a second here what's a go board remember Go over

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50. The game go the game go with the black and

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white pebbles. Sure. It's an ancient game. It's

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one of the most ancient games. It's one of the

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most complex games. It was recently AI beat the

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best go player. Yeah. Well, QR code is actually.

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Oh, I see. It's ones and zeros. That's all it

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is. It's binary data. Each blank is a zero. Yeah,

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there you go. There's a board. It was designed

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by a Japanese creator, I believe. And he realized

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that you could use the digital ones and zeros

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as the black and white spots, you know, and that's

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how the QR came about. So will always be the

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same thing like if you're trying to point to

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the gracious to calm that QR code No matter what

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site makes it is always gonna be the same QR

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code. It's always yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay makes

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sense. Yeah, cool Thank you about a genius one

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and only Yeah, man, when are we gonna design

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something cool and fucking retire on our on our

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yachts? Dude, you see some of these yachts man

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people have it's crazy Oh, Mr. Bezos has a yacht,

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gigantic yacht, and then a tender yacht that

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goes with it for all the toys and shit. Yeah.

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But his yacht, like I think I think it was Rogan

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maybe. I'm not sure. But some podcasts were showing

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the Russian yachts that we had seen. They're

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like cities, six floor cities. Yeah. Like or

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apartment building, whatever. They're fucking

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huge, man. Yeah, Bezos. Yeah, it is no fucking

00:14:06.769 --> 00:14:13.669
joke either. Yeah. But I mean, the upkeep to

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run these things is so supposedly we seize some

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of these things and then now we're paying to

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fucking, you know, store them so they don't go

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bad while I guess they're selling them or whatever

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the fuck they're doing with them. And we're kind

00:14:26.710 --> 00:14:28.250
of going broke doing it. We put one in Italy.

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They're like, get this shit out of here. This

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is way too much money to upkeep. Yeah, Jeff,

00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:40.720
Jeff shot us 417 feet long. Wow. And that has,

00:14:40.899 --> 00:14:44.399
I think, a 120 foot tender yacht that goes with

00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:48.879
it. That's just for toys. Boats and tenders and

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like, you know, some crew. That's where they

00:14:51.340 --> 00:14:55.120
tender. When you say tender, like money. No,

00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.980
no, no. Tenders are little boats that they send

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out like to shore. Yeah. Gotcha. That's insane.

00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.639
I mean, I don't know if I would ever want that

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much money. That seems like like way too much

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to think about because then it's like, well,

00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.740
got to have this money make money. Yeah. I mean,

00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.980
you just you can have almost anything you fucking

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want. Just think it up. I'll let's design a gigantic

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fucking yacht. Right. Does life get boring at

00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:25.259
that point, though, like when it's like you have

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nothing to really strive for? Or, I mean, you

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could just ball out and like, I guess Jeff Bezos

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kind of balling out. He went from like being

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like a kind of out of shape, you know, Amazon

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CEO to fucking Jack now. He's probably on the

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testosterone human. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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Got divorced and then switched that body around

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and, you know, live in LA. I used to watch Lauren

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Sanchez on the local news, the L .A. affiliate

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back in the day. That's how I know her. Now she's

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all plasticed up. That was his ex -wife or his

00:16:03.990 --> 00:16:06.830
girlfriend? That's the new wife, Lauren Sanchez.

00:16:07.610 --> 00:16:14.129
Yes. Hey, God bless, man. There's some hotties

00:16:14.129 --> 00:16:16.570
out there, man. Sidney Sweeney. My God, are those

00:16:16.570 --> 00:16:20.190
boobs natural? Yes. I think they are, baby, yes.

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Yeah, her voice is annoying as fuck, but God

00:16:24.190 --> 00:16:28.139
damn. You know what I'm saying? I'd have to muzzle

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her after a little bit like all right lady enough

00:16:31.340 --> 00:16:36.419
with you Stop talking. Yeah I don't know. I mean,

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I think guys like Bezos and Elon like They're

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just extremely extremely competitive. So, yeah,

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yeah and that relieves So they want to keep making

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more money and getting the biggest fucking thing

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and doing this. It's like At some point, you

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know, you'd think that they were just, OK, I

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got enough. I'm just going to fucking relax.

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Right. I like to go travel, but I guess that's

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what they enjoy doing is. Yeah, but you are it's

00:17:02.509 --> 00:17:05.769
like you hear he has like things that he wants

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to do, like he wants to go to Mars, like that's

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for sure. What every company he has is working

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for, like the the Boeing company, whatever focus

00:17:13.710 --> 00:17:16.190
like to dig holes once they get to, you know,

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Mars. Oh, yeah, I was talking about that earlier

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before. episodes a few times ago. Every one of

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his companies is geared towards going to Mars.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, like why he's got,

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you know, working so hard and stuff like that,

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but Bezos really hasn't set his intentions since

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he left Amazon. You know what I'm saying? Like

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he has that private, you know, rocket thing.

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Yeah. But it doesn't seem like there's a goal

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to that. It just seems like it's to put celebrities

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up into orbit. You know what I'm saying? Like

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Blue Origin is hilarious. Like when he when it

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first came out and he was he would do these interviews

00:17:52.809 --> 00:17:55.450
about it. Now, now, mind you, Elon had already

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launched and recovered multiple fucking rockets.

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And so Azos does this press conference that I

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remember watching. It was several years ago.

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And he's talking about his Blue Origin rockets

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doing this like it had never been done before.

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It goes. Then it lands back on the pad. It's

00:18:11.529 --> 00:18:13.599
like. Yeah, no shit. Elon's already done it,

00:18:13.660 --> 00:18:16.779
dude. Yeah, and done it well. He's already making

00:18:16.779 --> 00:18:19.359
money doing it. You haven't done anything new.

00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:25.200
Right. So what? Yeah, I mean, whatever. The more

00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.660
space travel, the better, I guess. Oh, for sure,

00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.759
yeah. Don't act like you're the first one doing

00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.960
it. I want to bring Brian on, but maybe I'll

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bring him on for this. You guys hear about the...

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Like some big -ass thing that we thought it was

00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.660
a meteor. Hey, what up Brian Shapiro Brian? How

00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:46.859
are you throwing copper artwork? Yes, see it

00:18:46.859 --> 00:18:53.420
up there. There you go Good to see you guys Good

00:18:53.420 --> 00:18:55.740
to see you too, dude, but just real quick before

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we get into anything Did you guys see like there

00:18:57.579 --> 00:19:00.000
there's some meteor that's heading towards earth

00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.420
pretty rapidly and like now they're saying yeah

00:19:03.420 --> 00:19:06.089
Atlas or something like that. Yeah they're saying

00:19:06.089 --> 00:19:08.509
it might not be a meteor it might be like some

00:19:08.509 --> 00:19:12.069
kind of alien technology you guys hear that well

00:19:12.069 --> 00:19:14.869
i mean i've heard a little bit about it yeah

00:19:14.869 --> 00:19:17.950
what is it called area 51 that's like or what

00:19:17.950 --> 00:19:20.049
is it that's like 45 minutes from vegas i don't

00:19:20.049 --> 00:19:22.400
know i've never been there before yeah Yeah,

00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:24.980
apparently there's aliens there, but I don't

00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:27.660
know. I don't know if Bob. So Bob Lazar back

00:19:27.660 --> 00:19:29.859
at 89. That's that's the whole reason we know

00:19:29.859 --> 00:19:32.920
about Area 51 because Bob Lazar came out and

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said that he worked in an area in Area 51 called

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S4 and they were back engineering alien craft.

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And that's how the public learned about Area

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51 because before that was completely top secret.

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No one knew anything about it. And supposedly

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whatever element he was describing back then.

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Within the past couple years they've like discovered

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or figured out how to use or some shit talking

00:19:55.009 --> 00:20:03.710
about a stable element 151 I think Yeah, and

00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:06.250
it was not discovered at that point what he's

00:20:06.250 --> 00:20:08.609
talking about it and now it's been discovered

00:20:08.609 --> 00:20:11.569
and But you can't make a stable form of it. So

00:20:11.569 --> 00:20:13.470
supposedly these aliens had a stable form of

00:20:13.470 --> 00:20:18.559
it and that's how they made anti -gravity I guess

00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.279
I'm one of the lucky ones. I've never been probed

00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.720
by an alien before. So I guess I consider myself

00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:27.359
lucky. Thank you. I don't know. I don't know

00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.299
if I necessarily I would think that if there

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are aliens on this planet, we would know by now.

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But extraterrestrial activity. Sure, I believe

00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.799
that. But I believe that's human made. I do believe

00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.339
that there are. Yeah, I do believe that there

00:20:41.339 --> 00:20:44.200
are plenty of unidentified flying objects everywhere.

00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:47.900
It could be from anywhere. But as far as aliens,

00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:51.400
green people? No, I don't think that that exists.

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If you get into deep conspiracies about that,

00:20:55.220 --> 00:20:58.339
the deep conspiracy is that the government and

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the elites of the world are going to use an alien

00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.119
invasion to finally go, okay, we got complete

00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.240
control over everybody, right? They're going

00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.980
to use false images in the sky and ships landing

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and technology that we actually have against

00:21:13.099 --> 00:21:15.359
the human population to subjugate everybody.

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But, you know, it could make sense. Who knows?

00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:24.500
Who knows? If the Earth is flat and we have that

00:21:24.500 --> 00:21:26.480
dome above it, like Bobby thinks, it'd be very

00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.839
easy to put those images in the sky like that.

00:21:29.980 --> 00:21:34.700
They can just cast it right onto the dome. Oh,

00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.079
my God. There's so much shit to really contemplate.

00:21:38.299 --> 00:21:41.039
I miss the good old days of the 90s where fucking

00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.200
live was Rolling Stones Artist of the Year in

00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:47.460
95 and life was simpler, man. All this garbage.

00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:50.140
I remember I remember that those were the good.

00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:51.799
Those were the good old days. You know, I flew

00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.700
out. Yes. Oh, yeah. The movies, I think all the

00:21:55.700 --> 00:21:57.640
hip hop was better. The movies were better in

00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.259
the 90s. I still live in the 90s. I think everything

00:22:00.259 --> 00:22:02.019
was better in the 90s. And then, of course, you

00:22:02.019 --> 00:22:04.599
guys come out and yeah, everything was better

00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.240
on that, man. It's yeah. Everything's so fucking

00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.240
wacky now. And like it is, you know, I flew out

00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.220
to go guys. I agree. No, I was just going to

00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:17.289
say, you know, I I did fly out to San Diego to

00:22:17.289 --> 00:22:19.710
see Live and Collective Soul at Del Mar. It was

00:22:19.710 --> 00:22:23.150
a good show. I flew out to Reno and I saw Live

00:22:23.150 --> 00:22:25.490
put on a show, but I'm probably going to speak

00:22:25.490 --> 00:22:28.710
the obvious here. Obviously, it's not the same.

00:22:29.029 --> 00:22:31.650
Drums, you have your unique style. It doesn't

00:22:31.650 --> 00:22:33.789
sound the same. Good musicians, he's got up there.

00:22:34.269 --> 00:22:37.730
It still sounds good, but even a song like Likini's

00:22:37.730 --> 00:22:39.740
Juice, the guitar just sounds different. It's

00:22:39.740 --> 00:22:41.779
not Chad's guitar, you know, it's not Patrick's

00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:44.759
bass. And like I said, Ed still sounds good,

00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.740
but it's just not the same. And I know I'm speaking

00:22:47.740 --> 00:22:50.599
the obvious here, but that's that's where I'm

00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:52.119
at. I mean, I'm still going to go see him. They're

00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:54.099
coming to Vegas to the Venetian. They're doing

00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:56.440
two nights here. The tickets are like three or

00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.599
four hundred bucks, which is insane. Wow. Yeah.

00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.400
If you want to sit close, it's like three, four

00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:05.380
hundred dollars. I'm like, what? Wow. Yeah, he

00:23:05.380 --> 00:23:07.420
does these meet and greets where he charges like

00:23:07.420 --> 00:23:10.859
550 bucks to get a quick picture with him. And

00:23:10.859 --> 00:23:13.640
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you

00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:17.019
money grab? Yeah, man. Yeah, he you know, he's

00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:19.099
he it's all about money for him. That's that's

00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:21.200
it. Yeah. He doesn't care. That's why, you know,

00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.240
he doesn't. Like care about the musicianship

00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:24.900
or if it sounds the same. He doesn't he doesn't

00:23:24.900 --> 00:23:26.380
give a shit It's all about money. No, i'm gonna

00:23:26.380 --> 00:23:28.240
be honest with you the last over the last 10

00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.839
or 15 years I don't like any is any any of his

00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.519
solo stuff. I really don't I think it's it's

00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:35.640
too poppy. It doesn't it doesn't sound anything

00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.599
like live Um, you know, I think the just the

00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:41.460
distance to hear for me was like the last album

00:23:41.460 --> 00:23:45.210
that to me sounded like live You know, we all

00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:47.589
got in a room and made yeah together and then

00:23:47.589 --> 00:23:50.890
after that I started he would just bring a bring

00:23:50.890 --> 00:23:54.150
an idea to the to the band already like basically

00:23:54.150 --> 00:23:58.049
done arrangement wise everything and And then

00:23:58.049 --> 00:24:00.329
here play to this. We're just like, okay, you

00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:03.089
know at that point Pat Patrick Chad and I were

00:24:03.089 --> 00:24:06.609
just like, okay. Well bands, you know, we're

00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:09.869
still making money and it's fun to go play and

00:24:10.470 --> 00:24:13.170
Yeah, why fight the... Maybe I don't get lucky

00:24:13.170 --> 00:24:19.750
and have a hit that does well. Really? But it's

00:24:19.750 --> 00:24:22.450
just crazy that... That's why we do The Gracious

00:24:22.450 --> 00:24:24.950
Few. Like we fucking were like, okay, we're working

00:24:24.950 --> 00:24:28.630
in a room. We got Kevin. We're rocking out again

00:24:28.630 --> 00:24:30.089
and fucking writing songs the way we did. And

00:24:30.089 --> 00:24:31.890
we actually did that with Chris Shin for The

00:24:31.890 --> 00:24:34.809
Turn as well. I thought Chris, I thought that

00:24:34.809 --> 00:24:36.910
album was really good. I thought, I thought that

00:24:36.910 --> 00:24:38.690
was a really good album. I thought you guys did

00:24:38.690 --> 00:24:40.589
a really good job. A lot of good songs on there.

00:24:40.609 --> 00:24:44.210
Um, and I saw you guys, uh, saw you guys in Hollywood

00:24:44.210 --> 00:24:47.849
do a show out there. Um, yeah, I think, you know,

00:24:47.849 --> 00:24:50.269
I think I, yeah, I saw that show, the house of

00:24:50.269 --> 00:24:52.670
blues. I saw you guys in Vegas. He did a show

00:24:52.670 --> 00:24:56.210
at hard rock with Chris. Um, yeah, I thought,

00:24:56.269 --> 00:24:58.029
I thought Chris did a really good job and I thought

00:24:58.029 --> 00:24:59.710
that album was very underrated. I thought it

00:24:59.710 --> 00:25:03.730
was really good. Um, yeah, yeah, we want to,

00:25:03.769 --> 00:25:06.119
you know, I really did. Put it back out. We took

00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.220
it off. We kind of took it off the market because,

00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:10.079
you know, it was coming back and we didn't want

00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.460
to hurt his little fillings. But, you know, whatever.

00:25:12.660 --> 00:25:15.720
Yeah. Is there any chance that you guys get?

00:25:15.779 --> 00:25:18.119
Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. No, I was just going to

00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.380
say, I think it's the same for anything that

00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:23.880
you put out under the live name. It has to be

00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.759
the four original members. Like the thing with

00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.200
the turn was, is that Ed wasn't there. And the

00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.599
thing is with this new shit is that the three

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.670
guys aren't there. Chad, Chad and Patrick. So

00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.369
it's like you're selling something that isn't.

00:25:37.569 --> 00:25:40.630
And I think people hear that and know that. Like,

00:25:40.730 --> 00:25:43.529
I think if the turn was under maybe The Gracious

00:25:43.529 --> 00:25:45.509
Few or like a different band name, it would have

00:25:45.509 --> 00:25:48.990
been huge. But I think a big portion of the live

00:25:48.990 --> 00:25:51.250
fan base was like, I don't know if I could support

00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:53.950
that because it's not all four of them together

00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:56.569
type of deal. I think lives fans are just like

00:25:56.569 --> 00:25:59.650
into the for the magic, the four of them together

00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:06.150
and anything. Yeah. I think Ed lied to me because

00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:08.650
he did my radio show years ago when he was on

00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:11.869
the Throwing Copper 25th anniversary acoustic

00:26:11.869 --> 00:26:14.210
tour. And that was around the time where you

00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:16.049
guys released The Turn. And I said, Ed, have

00:26:16.049 --> 00:26:17.809
you listened to The Turn? Have you listened to

00:26:17.809 --> 00:26:19.869
Chris? What do you think about the album? And

00:26:19.869 --> 00:26:21.849
he says to me, no, I haven't listened to it.

00:26:21.849 --> 00:26:23.730
And I'm thinking to myself, there is no chance

00:26:23.730 --> 00:26:26.829
in hell that he hasn't at least listened to what

00:26:26.829 --> 00:26:28.950
you guys sound like. And I knew he was lying,

00:26:28.950 --> 00:26:32.400
but it's like, you know, whatever. Well, now,

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.740
conversely, I have not listened to one performance

00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:37.220
of them live with all the new people just because

00:26:37.220 --> 00:26:41.259
I tried. I was joking and I was saying, yeah,

00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:43.599
we should get Chad front row at the Vegas show.

00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:49.819
Yeah, I'm sure you'd love to do that. then people

00:26:49.819 --> 00:26:51.400
in the crowd would be like, wait, shouldn't you

00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.000
be up there? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That would

00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.619
be that would that would be that would be a little

00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:57.579
awkward. But you guys were talking about how

00:26:57.579 --> 00:27:00.240
do I deal with the stress of like debating people

00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.240
every day, which is which is quite stressful.

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:04.660
It definitely affects my personal life. It's

00:27:04.660 --> 00:27:07.519
very stressful. But, you know, music, you know,

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.680
I go to a lot of shows. I go to, you know, I

00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.900
go out probably way too much for a 45 year old.

00:27:13.460 --> 00:27:16.670
But no way, you know. I need it. I need it because,

00:27:16.750 --> 00:27:19.150
you know, sometimes, you know, yelling at people

00:27:19.150 --> 00:27:22.609
is not very fun. And that's what Pierce Morgan

00:27:22.609 --> 00:27:27.029
wants. But it's he likes it. And, you know, I

00:27:27.029 --> 00:27:29.349
wish there were less people on a panel. So you

00:27:29.349 --> 00:27:31.450
can talk for 20 seconds without getting interrupted.

00:27:32.029 --> 00:27:34.630
But the only times I really raise my voice is

00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:36.910
on the Pierce Morgan show. And when somebody

00:27:36.910 --> 00:27:38.730
calls in and says something really stupid on

00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:40.630
my show, which happens every day, but that's

00:27:40.630 --> 00:27:43.849
about it. I mean, Was it usually what, four or

00:27:43.849 --> 00:27:47.230
five people on a panel on Piers? Usually it's

00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:49.309
four people. I mean, the last one I did was last

00:27:49.309 --> 00:27:55.150
week with Riley Gaines and Gillian Michaels and

00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:59.470
Nancy Mace and Megyn Kelly started the show.

00:27:59.589 --> 00:28:02.210
So yeah, it was a pretty, we were talking about

00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:04.809
Charlie Kirk and obviously that's a horrible

00:28:04.809 --> 00:28:07.130
situation and he wanted me on to talk about it.

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:10.490
And obviously, You know, I it was an emotional

00:28:10.490 --> 00:28:12.690
day. I was live on the air when it happened and

00:28:12.690 --> 00:28:15.230
I was supposed to debate It was horrible. I was

00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:16.970
supposed to debate Charlie Kirk and Phoenix in

00:28:16.970 --> 00:28:21.289
December. Oh Yeah, it was terrible. I got emotional

00:28:21.289 --> 00:28:25.750
That would have been a great debate I would have

00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:28.210
loved to have done that Yeah, a lot of people

00:28:28.210 --> 00:28:31.970
he debated weren't you know on the same level

00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:34.109
as him whereas I feel you Yeah, you could have

00:28:34.109 --> 00:28:36.799
went to battle with them One of my criticisms

00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:39.259
was he debated a bunch of 18 and 19 year old

00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:41.960
liberals on college campuses that were not prepared

00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.160
and bench Ben Shapiro kind of does the same thing

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.819
no relation there, but Listen the one thing I

00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:50.819
had in common with him Charlie Kirk is that he

00:28:50.819 --> 00:28:53.019
wanted political discourse And he wanted people

00:28:53.019 --> 00:28:54.539
that disagree with him at the front of the line

00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:57.000
and I did respect him for that I disagree with

00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.700
him on almost everything but You know anybody

00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.740
that celebrated his death. It's beyond inappropriate.

00:29:03.779 --> 00:29:07.490
It's horrible And I said that on the Pierce Morgan

00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:09.509
show, it's reprehensible and political violence

00:29:09.509 --> 00:29:12.710
cannot be condoned on either side. And I think

00:29:12.710 --> 00:29:17.470
it's important to say that. And what happened

00:29:17.470 --> 00:29:18.930
in the church over the weekend, I'm sure you

00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:21.089
guys heard about that. The church shooting in

00:29:21.089 --> 00:29:23.930
Michigan, it's just awful. And we're living in

00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:26.210
some weird times right now. And I have people

00:29:26.210 --> 00:29:29.430
that were at that Charlie Kirk event 20 feet

00:29:29.430 --> 00:29:31.990
away. I've never seen anybody get murdered before.

00:29:32.490 --> 00:29:35.329
That's traumatic. Uh, the video that I saw is

00:29:35.329 --> 00:29:38.349
traumatic let alone being there. So Yeah, it's

00:29:38.349 --> 00:29:40.069
just been a rough couple weeks, you know a lot

00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:42.710
of a lot of anger Yeah, it's just it's tough

00:29:42.710 --> 00:29:45.529
times. We're living in right now. So music, you

00:29:45.529 --> 00:29:48.650
know, i'll go i'll go fly to see ed Yeah, I wish

00:29:48.650 --> 00:29:52.910
you guys were still on stage. But um, yeah I

00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:54.650
think earlier were you gonna ask if we'll ever

00:29:54.650 --> 00:29:58.049
get back together? Uh, well, my first question

00:29:58.049 --> 00:30:00.630
was chris You think you guys could get back with

00:30:00.630 --> 00:30:03.930
Chris and Tor? I don't know, maybe. I mean, Chris

00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:07.890
is a great guy. I mean, it kind of ended acrimoniously

00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:10.569
because he was sort of, you know, he was kind

00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:12.150
of butthurt when we were like, Ed's coming back.

00:30:12.730 --> 00:30:15.289
The funny thing is we had conversations when

00:30:15.289 --> 00:30:17.230
he first started or first came with us. We're

00:30:17.230 --> 00:30:19.029
like, you know, Ed's probably going to come back

00:30:19.029 --> 00:30:21.190
eventually. He's like, oh, no, I get that and

00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:22.990
blah, blah, blah, blah. And then when it did

00:30:22.990 --> 00:30:25.190
happen, he wasn't happy about it, but it was.

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.700
Chris amazed you in being, I loved him, he's

00:30:28.700 --> 00:30:31.400
a great guy, we had lots of laughs and fun together,

00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:36.559
and it just got to the point where, unfortunately,

00:30:36.980 --> 00:30:38.599
he couldn't remember the lyrics to Lightning

00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.920
Crashes. He had to write them down and have them

00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.099
on. That's not good. No. He messed up the lyrics

00:30:45.099 --> 00:30:47.720
to Lightning Crashes on national television in

00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.339
Australia. We're just, luckily... The three of

00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:53.000
us were like, okay, just keep the song going.

00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.299
Yeah, that can't happen. Yeah. I was at, I was

00:30:56.299 --> 00:30:58.960
at the, uh, when you guys did, I think a 25th

00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.619
thorn copper anniversary gig in Atlantic city.

00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.819
I was at that show with Chris and it was very

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:07.220
cool. And you had some people like backstage

00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:09.579
that were singing backup vocals. If I recall,

00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:13.480
uh, at that show and Chris, yeah, there were

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.180
several songs where he was struggling with the

00:31:15.180 --> 00:31:19.009
lyrics. Uh, I saw that. Yeah. That kind of stuff

00:31:19.009 --> 00:31:23.029
he has a lot of uh anxiety I think it came down

00:31:23.029 --> 00:31:25.430
more not not his memory, but his anxiety was

00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:28.190
was affecting him in that way. So You know, it's

00:31:28.190 --> 00:31:32.410
so there's been uh, I get into I really enjoyed

00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:34.670
the interview you guys did with chad taylor I

00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:36.529
really watched that whole thing a couple times.

00:31:36.529 --> 00:31:38.190
I thought it was really good Is there any chance

00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:42.029
you guys can get patrick on? On the podcast,

00:31:42.029 --> 00:31:46.109
uh, eventually. Yeah patrick is you know we we're

00:31:46.109 --> 00:31:47.970
having lots of lawyer calls right now because

00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:50.730
of all the situation with ed so the last call

00:31:50.730 --> 00:31:52.789
we had i actually said hello to patrick and he

00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:55.569
said hello back so we made a breakthrough yes

00:31:55.569 --> 00:31:58.109
well that's good that's good that's eventually

00:31:58.109 --> 00:32:01.269
maybe yes i think so i mean we're all working

00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:04.430
together on on the whole lawsuit thing and all

00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:06.289
that unfortunate stuff but like we're working

00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:10.470
together on that so yeah that sucks so whenever

00:32:10.470 --> 00:32:14.299
he's ready pd we got you my man You should have

00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:16.940
Patrick and Chad on at the same time. Yeah, we

00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:21.299
can do that. Yeah, that'd be fun. We might be

00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:23.920
pulling stuff out of Patrick if he's on here.

00:32:23.980 --> 00:32:26.220
He's kind of a shyer. You know, I would say the

00:32:26.220 --> 00:32:28.819
shyest maybe out of all four of them. What do

00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:30.279
you what do you think? Such a great bass player.

00:32:30.579 --> 00:32:33.799
The quietest, right? He is the quietest, but

00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:38.759
he's also the funniest, like. Side backstage.

00:32:42.470 --> 00:32:45.049
Like he'll pick a character and be in that character

00:32:45.049 --> 00:32:52.869
for a while. Like on PC. So I have to ask you

00:32:52.869 --> 00:32:54.950
this, Chad, you don't have to answer it, but

00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:58.170
I saw some shows back in the day where it looked

00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:00.710
like Ed was on something. Like it looked like,

00:33:00.930 --> 00:33:03.029
I mean, I know he liked to drink and stuff, but

00:33:03.029 --> 00:33:05.349
it looked like he was on speed or something back

00:33:05.349 --> 00:33:07.549
in the day. Like during the Samadhi tour and

00:33:07.549 --> 00:33:09.630
like, was he doing any of that stuff back in

00:33:09.630 --> 00:33:13.289
the day? Um, you know, I didn't pay attention

00:33:13.289 --> 00:33:15.470
and I didn't know, but apparently there's there,

00:33:15.470 --> 00:33:22.470
there has been some, you know, going on. I never

00:33:22.470 --> 00:33:24.960
did it and I never saw it, but It was around.

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.160
I think most people knew to keep it away from

00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.700
me because I'm just like, I've never been into

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:30.880
that kind of shit. I drink here. Right. Right.

00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.700
And, you know, I'll take some. I don't I don't

00:33:33.700 --> 00:33:35.599
smoke anything, but I'll like eat a gummy here

00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.900
and there. But or have some good field seltzers.

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:43.039
That's right. Good field seltzers. But anyway,

00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.779
it's nice. Definitely been. And there's been

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:48.400
talk a lot of talk about that recently. So who

00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.759
knows? I don't know. I can't confirm or deny.

00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.440
I would say I had the complete opposite with

00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.460
Ed. It was like the second or third time I met

00:33:55.460 --> 00:33:58.420
him. Just got off stage and like he was like

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:00.720
his energy level was low to where I'm like, did

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.240
this dude just fucking pop three Xanax or something?

00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.680
Because he was like so chill compared to 10 minutes

00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.460
ago on stage. I'm like, this dude seemed to mellow

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:12.519
out real quick. It was the times that I've met

00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.980
him, which are probably a dozen times. The last

00:34:14.980 --> 00:34:16.860
time I met him, he was the friendliest, and it

00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:19.219
was when you guys were with him. You guys did

00:34:19.219 --> 00:34:22.460
a show in Las Vegas. I believe it was at the

00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:26.179
Hard Rock, and it was the last tour you guys

00:34:26.179 --> 00:34:30.340
did. So I go backstage. Last person I saw there

00:34:30.340 --> 00:34:32.239
was Chad Taylor, and then Ed's just sitting there

00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.880
with a woman on his lap, not his wife. I don't

00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.280
even know if he's still married or not, but and

00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.789
I was the only person. OK, well, yeah, that's

00:34:40.789 --> 00:34:43.670
what I saw, by the way. He jumps up out of his

00:34:43.670 --> 00:34:45.190
chair and he sees me. I'm wearing a live shirt

00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:47.530
and he like 10 minutes we were just talking,

00:34:47.929 --> 00:34:51.670
you know, and he was extremely friendly. And

00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:53.630
I think that was the last tour you guys were

00:34:53.630 --> 00:34:56.309
on. So it seems like he has his ups and downs.

00:34:56.869 --> 00:34:58.989
And sometimes he's moody. Sometimes he's extremely

00:34:58.989 --> 00:35:07.300
friendly. He's a human being. Most lead singers

00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:11.960
have extreme emotional dynamics, you know, go

00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.860
back and forth. Yeah. But the crowds are good.

00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:16.780
I mean, the crowds are good. I mean, I, you know,

00:35:16.780 --> 00:35:18.960
I went to the show in Reno, it was just them.

00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.059
And there were probably three or 4 ,000 people

00:35:21.059 --> 00:35:22.639
there, you know, and people were buying a lot

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.539
of merchandise and there's still a lot of fans

00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:27.539
out there that would love to have you guys get

00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:29.619
back together. I'm sure the sound is just different.

00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:32.059
That's just the bottom line. Right. It's just

00:35:32.059 --> 00:35:34.900
different. No, yeah, he's still doing business

00:35:34.900 --> 00:35:39.679
and good for him. I mean, as the songs you guys

00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:41.159
built together, the albums you built together,

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.840
those are fucking endless, timeless tracks. You

00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.400
know what I'm saying? They'll live on forever.

00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.519
There's really not many better bands that came

00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.260
out of the 90s and the 90s fucking rock. No,

00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.579
throwing copper has to be. One of the top five

00:35:55.579 --> 00:35:57.480
alternative rock albums of all time. I guess

00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.599
i'm biased. I would say it's the best I would

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.659
say 10 pearl jam. I don't know chad like what

00:36:02.659 --> 00:36:05.199
are what do you think are some of the best? alternative

00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.880
rock albums of all time Oh, I mean, well, I mean

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:14.659
like you said 10 is definitely up there. Um What's

00:36:14.659 --> 00:36:17.900
the sound garden super unknown Nirvana's first

00:36:17.900 --> 00:36:19.920
record. I mean not the first record, but the

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.699
what's what's the blue record? Never mind. Never

00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:23.960
mind. Never mind. Thank you. Yeah My mind's going

00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.539
yeah the sound garden STP purple. Yeah. I love

00:36:29.539 --> 00:36:32.659
yeah. Yeah, and I mean I would I would I would

00:36:32.659 --> 00:36:35.860
put throwing copper in there too for sure Yeah,

00:36:35.860 --> 00:36:39.380
but yeah with my eight with my add and I have

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:41.699
it really bad There's not many albums I could

00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:43.699
listen to front to back and throwing copper.

00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.699
You're certainly one of them. That's for sure

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:47.539
I mean, I still do it. I still listen to it.

00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.119
So uh, but you know, i'm usually the guy that

00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.239
just With the old CDs, I just fast forward to

00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.380
the song that I want. Want a year, you know?

00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:00.300
But every Throwing Copper song, every song is

00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:02.559
incredible. And I feel the same way about Secret

00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.460
Samadhi, too, by the way. And I love mental jewelry.

00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.159
I love it. You know what I was listening to yesterday

00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.760
in my car? You'll laugh at this. Four songs.

00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:14.639
Remember that? Oh, yeah. I love that song. Absolutely.

00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.800
Yeah, yeah. I still jammed in negation. I like

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.980
that song, you know, and it was like taking me

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:22.639
back to the days when I was like in middle school,

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.679
you know, it's a long time ago. Yeah. But how

00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.280
old were you guys when you recorded that? You

00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:33.880
guys were we were, uh, let's see, that was nine

00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.860
tops. So we recorded it in the summer of 91.

00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.139
So yeah, I was 20, 20. Wow. I was born in and

00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:44.320
vicious, vicious crowd is on there too, I think.

00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.710
Right. Isn't it? Four songs is Operation Spirit,

00:37:47.869 --> 00:37:54.309
Good Pain, and Heaven Wore Shirt. Good Pain made

00:37:54.309 --> 00:37:57.489
three different cuts. Good Pain's on Death of

00:37:57.489 --> 00:38:01.150
the Dictionary, on four songs, and it's all mental

00:38:01.150 --> 00:38:03.989
jewelry, yes. And all different recordings of

00:38:03.989 --> 00:38:08.329
it, right? It's not all the same recording. Four

00:38:08.329 --> 00:38:10.449
songs and mental jewelry are the same. It's the

00:38:10.449 --> 00:38:15.750
same recording. So here's something I was from

00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:18.090
Neth of a Dictionary. Just got to say it. Great

00:38:18.090 --> 00:38:21.489
tune. Paper flowers. I know that song. I'm a

00:38:21.489 --> 00:38:23.789
real fan. Come on. You see the artwork there.

00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:27.289
I'm a real fan. Where did you get that from?

00:38:27.349 --> 00:38:29.590
That seems like custom, dude. That doesn't seem

00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:33.070
like... That was... I'm sure Chad will remember

00:38:33.070 --> 00:38:39.590
this. This was Costa Mesa tour with Bush and

00:38:39.590 --> 00:38:42.750
Our Lady Peace. Yeah, I was at the Costa. I was

00:38:42.750 --> 00:38:46.710
at the Costa Mesa show. Um, and that was, uh,

00:38:46.710 --> 00:38:48.829
and I had met you, Chad, actually back. It was

00:38:48.829 --> 00:38:50.550
a while ago. You, you met a lot of people, but

00:38:50.550 --> 00:38:52.050
yeah, that was the show and you guys were selling

00:38:52.050 --> 00:38:54.449
that little rug there. And so when I saw, Hey,

00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:56.150
that's pretty cool. I'll hang that up in my place.

00:38:56.610 --> 00:38:59.949
So, um, that was a great show. Thank you. Yeah.

00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:03.489
Yeah. That was fairgrounds. That's one of the

00:39:03.489 --> 00:39:08.050
best. Karensa's going off saying no hard drugs

00:39:08.050 --> 00:39:12.389
anywhere back in those days. So she's vehemently

00:39:12.389 --> 00:39:16.309
denying Ed's use or anybody's use for that matter.

00:39:16.469 --> 00:39:18.610
Hey, I was back there and I was certainly doing

00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:21.050
some hard drugs. So don't say they weren't there,

00:39:21.210 --> 00:39:26.289
Karensa. I was there. Anywho. That's funny. I

00:39:26.289 --> 00:39:28.250
was just going to say the first four live albums

00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:30.170
I think I could listen to start to finish from

00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:32.329
mental jewelry to the distance to here. Yeah.

00:39:32.949 --> 00:39:35.889
Not many albums you could do that with. I was

00:39:35.889 --> 00:39:38.869
going to say that we modeled, like we love Joshua

00:39:38.869 --> 00:39:40.550
Tree, like I can listen to that record all the

00:39:40.550 --> 00:39:42.909
way through. There's some REM records I can listen

00:39:42.909 --> 00:39:44.889
all the way through. And that's what we were

00:39:44.889 --> 00:39:46.650
kind of trying to emulate. Like we wanted to

00:39:46.650 --> 00:39:50.429
make every song great. That's what you were throwing

00:39:50.429 --> 00:39:52.489
copper. We did our best on all those, all four

00:39:52.489 --> 00:39:57.090
of those records, even this year. And then kind

00:39:57.090 --> 00:40:01.489
of got off that path, unfortunately. But I'm

00:40:01.489 --> 00:40:04.449
wondering. What your favorite song is on those

00:40:04.449 --> 00:40:06.929
four albums for for me throwing copper believe

00:40:06.929 --> 00:40:09.730
a damnit otter creek. I just I love that song

00:40:09.730 --> 00:40:12.170
It's always it's always lakini's juice for me

00:40:12.170 --> 00:40:16.130
on secret samadhi the distance to hear Voodoo

00:40:16.130 --> 00:40:18.449
lady. I really like that song. Yeah, I really

00:40:18.449 --> 00:40:22.869
I really loved that one And what am I missing

00:40:22.869 --> 00:40:28.719
here mental jewelry? You are the world Is uh,

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:30.880
I know I know that's what I just I know there's

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.539
just something about that song. I just love that

00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:38.420
song I would go pieces now. Oh, yeah And then

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.159
damon i'll go i'll go with uh, I need to go with

00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.619
damon otter creek or white discussion White discussion.

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.440
I know I know you like white discussion. Yeah,

00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:48.300
I like playing it. It's a great tune great tunes

00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:50.820
Damon otter creek was modeled off of uh, you

00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:53.300
too for me drumming anyway from a song called

00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:56.840
exit on joshua tree So you ever listen to that?

00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:05.599
Anyway, and then Secret Samadhi. I like, I like

00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.800
Ghost. I just, I just made that drum video. I

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.780
remembered how much I liked that song. That's

00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:15.719
a cool ass drum beat too. Thank you. And then

00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.980
yeah, for distance to hear, probably Sparkle.

00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:23.889
That's a good song. Yeah. Dude, I found out when

00:41:23.889 --> 00:41:27.469
Chad Taylor was on that that was a Ed Kowalczyk

00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:29.570
guitar riff and I was like, no way, dude. I totally

00:41:29.570 --> 00:41:31.510
thought that. It came up with some great riffs,

00:41:31.829 --> 00:41:34.909
became great songs. Absolutely. But it just sounded

00:41:34.909 --> 00:41:37.010
interesting. I mean, you could just tell that

00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:39.590
they write together because that's definitely

00:41:39.590 --> 00:41:43.789
taken from Chad Taylor's playing style. It just

00:41:43.789 --> 00:41:46.989
seemed to me. Well, here's how to play guitar.

00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:52.139
Yeah. I never even read that, but that's what

00:41:52.139 --> 00:41:56.199
happens. Well, here's a question for Chad. I

00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.500
have a question for Chad. So, you know, I've

00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:01.300
been doing a lot of TV over the last year. And

00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:03.739
occasionally, even at a few live shows, people

00:42:03.739 --> 00:42:05.679
recognize me. Hey, I follow your YouTube. Hey,

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.639
can I get a selfie with you? Hey, I just saw

00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:09.500
you on Pierce Morgan. Now, this is very new to

00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:12.650
me. Sometimes it's cool. Sometimes I was on a

00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:14.650
date a few weeks ago. We're doing karaoke and

00:42:14.650 --> 00:42:16.250
some guy comes up to me starts wanting to talk

00:42:16.250 --> 00:42:17.929
politics with me. And it was, it was a little

00:42:17.929 --> 00:42:19.750
strange. I'm wondering how you dealt with that

00:42:19.750 --> 00:42:23.510
when you first started to be recognized in public,

00:42:23.510 --> 00:42:26.630
you know, like how did you deal with that? I'm

00:42:26.630 --> 00:42:30.329
curious. It's, it rarely happens to me outside

00:42:30.329 --> 00:42:33.210
of context of being at the show, but like even

00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:35.369
during throwing copper, I would walk out into

00:42:35.369 --> 00:42:39.000
the fucking crowd and watch the openers and Really?

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.960
Really, if ever was I recognized, even back then.

00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.059
Even at the height of copper touring. But so

00:42:45.059 --> 00:42:47.360
it happens to me, occasionally I'll be on the

00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:48.579
street and someone will start looking at me.

00:42:49.059 --> 00:42:52.219
I never think it's because they think they know

00:42:52.219 --> 00:42:55.300
who I am. I'm just like, what's going on? Why

00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:56.519
are you looking at me? And they're like, oh,

00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:03.019
hey, you're Jeff. I'm like, oh, yes, yes. I always

00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:05.440
say I'm not facially famous, but if I mention

00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:11.869
it to people, then they know. It's so crazy.

00:43:12.130 --> 00:43:14.650
So many people my age, even in their thirties

00:43:14.650 --> 00:43:17.349
and fifties, when I say the band live, they give

00:43:17.349 --> 00:43:19.769
me this look. I think I've heard of them. And

00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:21.670
then I'll go on my YouTube page and I will literally

00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:24.389
play six or seven songs that they know. Right.

00:43:24.409 --> 00:43:26.429
You know, I'll go play selling the drama. I alone

00:43:26.429 --> 00:43:28.070
lightning crashes, you know, all these songs.

00:43:28.269 --> 00:43:30.389
Oh, I know that song. Oh, I know that song. You

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:32.510
know, it's like I get that with my friends, even

00:43:32.510 --> 00:43:34.989
people my own age all the time. You know, yeah.

00:43:35.050 --> 00:43:37.329
Yep, well, it's funny because you know back in

00:43:37.329 --> 00:43:40.090
the day we are the guy who was running our record

00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:42.269
label his name is gary kerfors and he's a legendary

00:43:42.269 --> 00:43:45.349
manager he's passed away now, but uh He managed

00:43:45.349 --> 00:43:47.949
the talking heads and the ramones and james addiction

00:43:47.949 --> 00:43:51.010
and blondie and thompson twins You know lots

00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:55.349
of huge 80s bands And uh, he would he he's like

00:43:55.349 --> 00:43:57.510
you don't need to be in the press all the time

00:43:57.510 --> 00:44:00.269
They need you more than you need them. And so

00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:03.170
I think like our contemporaries like pearl jam

00:44:03.340 --> 00:44:05.860
Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins and all those sound

00:44:05.860 --> 00:44:07.599
guard all those bands were like they were on

00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.460
the covers of all those magazines all the time

00:44:09.460 --> 00:44:11.619
where we were offered those covers but Gary would

00:44:11.619 --> 00:44:13.119
be like no you don't you're not doing that we're

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.960
like why not like i think that's kind of led

00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:22.380
to the disconnect of the name and the songs and

00:44:22.380 --> 00:44:24.219
you know for better or worse i don't know that

00:44:24.219 --> 00:44:25.900
he he wouldn't let us be on the cover of Rolling

00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:29.260
Stone until we were voted on by the by the uh

00:44:29.260 --> 00:44:32.960
by the readers as you know whatever, best band

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.400
of the 96 or whatever, 95. 95, baby, artist of

00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.360
the year. Yeah, I've often said that. You know,

00:44:39.500 --> 00:44:43.260
Gary would be awesome. He didn't want an oversaturation,

00:44:43.460 --> 00:44:46.619
but it also, I think, later in our career led

00:44:46.619 --> 00:44:49.880
to a disconnect of... Definitely. I've kind of

00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.840
heard live. Oh, yeah, I know lightning crashes.

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.880
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, it was like

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.599
Nirvana. They're always talking about we don't

00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.679
want to be in the limelight and, you know, we

00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.579
just want to play our music. Yet they did every

00:45:00.579 --> 00:45:03.320
interview. They were on every fucking show they

00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.440
could be on. They were on every magazine. So

00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.880
it's like, yeah, you guys actually put your money

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.039
where your mouth was and didn't do those things.

00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.539
And, you know, who knows, it probably probably

00:45:13.539 --> 00:45:16.900
did hurt because I guess doing those. Yeah, like

00:45:16.900 --> 00:45:19.619
teeny magazines and whatever keeps you in the

00:45:19.619 --> 00:45:21.400
in the in the limelight. And if somebody hears,

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.059
oh, that's this is live. I alone, they might

00:45:24.059 --> 00:45:26.579
think, oh, is this a band playing this song?

00:45:26.579 --> 00:45:28.539
I alone live or something like they might not

00:45:28.539 --> 00:45:30.920
even correlate that. That's the name of the band.

00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.059
Oh, mental. Yeah. Where mental jewelry came out

00:45:34.059 --> 00:45:37.099
in Rolling Stone, it was listed as the band named

00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:40.559
Mental Jewelry and the record is live. Oh, she's.

00:45:40.829 --> 00:45:44.769
Oh my god. Yeah, I remember I was 15 years old

00:45:44.769 --> 00:45:47.150
My story is I had heard selling the drama for

00:45:47.150 --> 00:45:48.909
the first time didn't know who you guys were

00:45:48.909 --> 00:45:51.230
I had heard pain lies on the riverside on the

00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.989
radio, but I didn't know it was live So I liked

00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:56.630
selling the drama then I saw your MTV unplugged

00:45:56.630 --> 00:45:59.489
which was fucking amazing And I said I have to

00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:02.570
go see these guys, right? So I went bought throwing

00:46:02.570 --> 00:46:06.710
copper. I was addicted to it saw The show at

00:46:06.710 --> 00:46:08.949
the Meadows music theater in Hartford, Connecticut

00:46:09.579 --> 00:46:11.599
That tour the throwing copper tour and I was

00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.820
just completely blown away by that show So then

00:46:13.820 --> 00:46:17.099
I discovered mental jewelry and I just like holy

00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:18.699
shit. These guys are unbelievable And then I

00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:21.440
became like obsessed, you know, yeah became obsessed.

00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:26.079
Yeah, I went to I went to live shows With a fan

00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.519
that was I was like 16 years old. You might know

00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.280
who she is actually This was she was like in

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:33.679
her mid to late 30s. Her name is Susan. She lived

00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.260
in Connecticut Susan couldn't yeah really nice

00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:41.079
lady obsessed with you guys. Yeah, yeah And she

00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:42.679
would drive me to the shows, because I don't

00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.320
even think I had a driver's license back then.

00:46:44.420 --> 00:46:46.260
And she would pick me up, and we'd go to all

00:46:46.260 --> 00:46:48.079
the shows on the East Coast. And I hit her up

00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.019
on social media the other day, and I said, Susan,

00:46:50.659 --> 00:46:53.230
it's been like 30 years. why don't you come to

00:46:53.230 --> 00:46:55.590
Vegas and let's see a show uh you know let's

00:46:55.590 --> 00:46:58.329
see a live show but she would drive me all over

00:46:58.329 --> 00:47:00.050
the place you know and we'd see you guys everywhere

00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:02.130
and she just kind of disappeared we broke up

00:47:02.130 --> 00:47:04.730
in you know what was it 2009 and then she never

00:47:04.730 --> 00:47:08.869
really yeah around but yeah she we come backstage

00:47:08.869 --> 00:47:11.630
like we could not stop her from getting backstage

00:47:11.630 --> 00:47:15.590
like there's a point where we're like okay we

00:47:15.590 --> 00:47:17.690
we would give out her picture to all the security

00:47:17.690 --> 00:47:20.170
guards and be like do not let this go not that

00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:22.809
she was harmful or anything But we were just

00:47:22.809 --> 00:47:25.210
like, why does she, every friggin' show, she's

00:47:25.210 --> 00:47:27.530
backstage, like, at every meeting. We were like,

00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:29.769
goddamn. And so at one point we were just like,

00:47:29.949 --> 00:47:32.670
we were just trying to see if they could do it.

00:47:33.389 --> 00:47:35.130
But she was always backstage. We'd give out her

00:47:35.130 --> 00:47:37.670
picture, we had security guard Tom Robb, this

00:47:37.670 --> 00:47:39.710
guy we had out with us forever. We told him,

00:47:39.829 --> 00:47:42.449
no, she can't come backstage. We gave her a friggin'

00:47:42.630 --> 00:47:47.190
nickname, we called her TR Blacky. For Tom Robb,

00:47:47.289 --> 00:47:49.309
like Black Air. And then she would be backstage

00:47:49.309 --> 00:47:54.219
every time. It was like, where it depends and

00:47:54.219 --> 00:47:56.360
stand in the front row the whole fucking time.

00:47:56.460 --> 00:47:59.860
Never leave. Okay. That's wild. She was wild.

00:48:00.139 --> 00:48:03.139
Yeah. I went to one show. It was a college. I

00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:04.980
don't remember which college it was. It was about

00:48:04.980 --> 00:48:07.579
three hours from Connecticut. And she took me

00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:10.420
to the show. And at that show, I think it was

00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:12.480
the, was it the secret Samadhi tour? No, it was

00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.960
the distance to your tour. And at one point during

00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.420
the show, Ed was telling all the women to take

00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:21.820
off their bras. OK. Oh, yeah. So you remember

00:48:21.820 --> 00:48:24.420
that? OK. That was the show that I went with

00:48:24.420 --> 00:48:28.480
Susan and Chad. I'm not making this up. She literally

00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:33.260
took all of her clothes off. Wow. Yeah. And then

00:48:33.260 --> 00:48:36.039
when then when you want to talk about awkward

00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.800
when the show was over, she's still naked and

00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.429
the lights go on. Oh, my God. stand behind stand

00:48:42.429 --> 00:48:43.889
in front of me stand in front of it that was

00:48:43.889 --> 00:48:46.650
that was that was something else uh i could say

00:48:46.650 --> 00:48:50.309
i've never taken um she's you know she's okay

00:48:50.309 --> 00:48:52.429
you know she was all right uh but you know i

00:48:52.429 --> 00:48:54.630
can a little little obsessed with the band i

00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:57.650
think that's fair to say um I was obsessed, too,

00:48:57.650 --> 00:48:59.949
but I wasn't taking my clothes off. I like women.

00:49:00.110 --> 00:49:02.210
I wasn't taking my clothes off. Yeah. I wasn't

00:49:02.210 --> 00:49:05.190
going backstage a million times. I probably went

00:49:05.190 --> 00:49:08.530
backstage. No, I didn't do that. You weren't

00:49:08.530 --> 00:49:10.469
going back to like see the guys like you were

00:49:10.469 --> 00:49:12.269
going back there to spit some music knowledge

00:49:12.269 --> 00:49:17.250
with. Exactly. I want to blow. Yeah. Yeah. There's

00:49:17.250 --> 00:49:19.050
none of that for me. No, there was no but wanting

00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:22.920
to blow anybody. That's for sure. But but. You

00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.480
know, over the years of doing radio, I've, I've

00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.019
made some friends, you know, Richard Patrick

00:49:27.019 --> 00:49:30.179
of filter is one of my good friends. I was actually

00:49:30.179 --> 00:49:33.300
just hanging out with him in LA. Um, he's a great

00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:36.420
guy. Um, uh, Wes, Wes scantlin from puddle of

00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:38.380
mud. He's actually a really good guy. He's got

00:49:38.380 --> 00:49:41.099
some alcohol abuse issues and stuff, but he's

00:49:41.099 --> 00:49:43.739
not a bad guy. Yeah. So, you know, over the years

00:49:43.739 --> 00:49:47.420
when you do, um, radio, as long as I have, you

00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:49.239
make friends with people that you admire, but

00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.289
ed is just. Now I just did some interviews with

00:49:52.289 --> 00:49:55.230
him and he just he's a different cat man, you

00:49:55.230 --> 00:49:57.309
know, he's a different cat but yes, you know,

00:49:57.449 --> 00:50:00.530
but Yeah, I wonder I wonder if you guys would

00:50:00.530 --> 00:50:02.530
ever collaborate with somebody like Richard or

00:50:02.530 --> 00:50:04.510
somebody like that I don't know if you guys would

00:50:04.510 --> 00:50:08.650
consider doing that Be open to I mean we might

00:50:08.650 --> 00:50:11.570
be open to it Chad Chad and I are kind of talking

00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:14.679
about, you know working on some stuff Dude, it'd

00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:18.179
be totally cool if if you did like another gracious

00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:20.320
few type of deal where you got some cool ass

00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.219
thing Yeah, cool band and you guys went and did

00:50:23.219 --> 00:50:26.840
you having yeah? Yeah, I think that would be

00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.320
cool. I don't know I mean it'd be a way for you

00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.139
guys to make money the fans would still certainly

00:50:30.139 --> 00:50:34.539
come out I don't you know, I don't know I'm just

00:50:34.539 --> 00:50:36.340
curious if you guys would do that again because

00:50:36.340 --> 00:50:37.980
I think it'd be a lot of fun to see you guys

00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:40.059
out there playing again Even if it's not with

00:50:40.059 --> 00:50:43.760
Ed Just not Chad Taylor and friends do not play

00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.239
in that band. I'm going to just. What the hell

00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:48.900
was that? What the hell was that? What was that?

00:50:49.099 --> 00:50:52.820
Oh, I don't know. That was weird. He's doing

00:50:52.820 --> 00:50:56.860
his new interpretations of the song. I mean,

00:50:57.260 --> 00:50:58.960
I've talked to him about it now. He just he just

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.880
wanted to play music and he was just sick of

00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.389
sitting around not doing anything. So. You know,

00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:06.730
he misses it was an evening I shared with the

00:51:06.730 --> 00:51:10.269
sun. It was weird. It was just weird hearing

00:51:10.269 --> 00:51:12.110
him sing those songs. That's how it was just

00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:15.210
strange. That's all it was. It was just like,

00:51:15.210 --> 00:51:18.469
dude, you are the original writer of these and

00:51:18.469 --> 00:51:20.829
now you're reinterpreting them. And it's not

00:51:20.829 --> 00:51:24.750
as good. So just maybe go back to how they were

00:51:24.750 --> 00:51:26.590
being played or something. I don't know. It just

00:51:26.590 --> 00:51:29.369
seemed it seemed strange. And it's like, yeah,

00:51:29.550 --> 00:51:32.909
that was bizarre style of music. All along and

00:51:32.909 --> 00:51:35.250
he just played him the other way. Like, I don't

00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:37.829
know. It just was a little wacky. It's interesting,

00:51:38.150 --> 00:51:40.590
Brian. I'll run by the idea of Richard Patrick

00:51:40.590 --> 00:51:44.309
to chat and see. Yeah, I've been good friends.

00:51:44.429 --> 00:51:48.530
I mean, Richard and I talk almost every day and

00:51:48.530 --> 00:51:51.829
I know he's still mainly politics, Chad. You

00:51:51.829 --> 00:51:53.409
don't want to talk politics with him. You guys

00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:55.710
would get along with that. We won't play with

00:51:55.710 --> 00:51:58.469
it. Yeah. But I can tell you right now, he's

00:51:58.469 --> 00:52:01.949
a really good dude. and extremely talented. Now,

00:52:02.090 --> 00:52:04.489
I don't know if you remember this, but when STP

00:52:04.489 --> 00:52:07.349
broke up with Scott Weiland, Richard joined the

00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:09.570
DeLeo brothers and they did an album. Army of

00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:11.750
Anyone was the name of that. And it was great

00:52:11.750 --> 00:52:14.630
that he played. They played STP stuff. They played

00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:17.570
filter stuff. I don't know. I just envision,

00:52:17.570 --> 00:52:19.409
you know, if you guys did something like that,

00:52:19.409 --> 00:52:23.130
it would be awesome. You know, well, he's a really

00:52:23.130 --> 00:52:25.190
good guy. Chad and I have been talking about,

00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:27.750
like, you know, working on some stuff and possibly

00:52:27.750 --> 00:52:30.780
like. who would get to sing. And I was like,

00:52:30.780 --> 00:52:32.500
yeah, it'd be cool if it was somebody that was

00:52:32.500 --> 00:52:35.579
already established and famous. Not that Chris

00:52:35.579 --> 00:52:37.679
wasn't established, but he was kind of lesser

00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.960
known than say Richard Patrick, for instance.

00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:42.679
Richard's a pretty popular guy. I mean, we went

00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.420
to a Raiders game last year and there were like

00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:47.659
40 people that came up to him. It was pretty

00:52:47.659 --> 00:52:49.920
cool. You know, obviously he's still doing his

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.199
filter stuff and he loves YouTube as well. He

00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.300
does some YouTube covers and you guys came out

00:52:55.300 --> 00:52:59.079
around the same time, right? he's got a great

00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.360
voice um i know he could do the live stuff i've

00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:04.860
talked to him about it you know and and he likes

00:53:04.860 --> 00:53:07.619
yeah i've talked to him about you guys and uh

00:53:07.619 --> 00:53:09.699
it was cool we went into a record store it was

00:53:09.699 --> 00:53:11.800
a very popular record store in la and i'm trying

00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:13.119
to remember the name of it where they sell a

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.820
bunch of vinyls and stuff and they had a couple

00:53:15.820 --> 00:53:19.050
filter Yeah, yeah, me and Richard went there.

00:53:19.070 --> 00:53:21.010
And then I'm looking to see if they have filter

00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:22.769
albums. And then I'm just making a video and

00:53:22.769 --> 00:53:24.469
say, Rich, excuse me, sir, is this a good album?

00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:26.670
It was kind of it was kind of funny. And a couple

00:53:26.670 --> 00:53:28.369
of people recognize him. You know who his brother

00:53:28.369 --> 00:53:31.909
is, right? Yeah. Robert Patrick, the actor. Yeah,

00:53:32.050 --> 00:53:35.210
that's right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Talented

00:53:35.210 --> 00:53:38.750
family 1000, baby. Yeah. Sopranos. He was in

00:53:38.750 --> 00:53:42.050
the Sopranos. He played the degenerate. Yeah.

00:53:42.050 --> 00:53:44.309
Yeah. He's really cool. And I know Richard's

00:53:44.309 --> 00:53:46.679
doing scores. for movies now he's doing a lot

00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:48.980
of that and i think he's got a new album coming

00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:51.219
out soon but yeah man i'd love to link you guys

00:53:51.219 --> 00:53:53.360
up because you know some of my favorite bands

00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.280
you guys and filter so be like maybe i'm selfish

00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.099
i don't know but i think you guys are filter

00:53:59.099 --> 00:54:03.380
and uh and everclear with christian summerland

00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:06.320
the summerland tour i was there i i saw you guys

00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:08.880
twice on that tour i'm a real fan i saw you guys

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.639
in vegas i was talking to chad for a while that's

00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:13.539
when you guys had all that white chalky shit

00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:16.449
on your shirt remember that Baby, yeah outer

00:54:16.449 --> 00:54:19.369
and then you guys played in a place called laflin

00:54:19.369 --> 00:54:21.329
nevada. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, I remember

00:54:21.329 --> 00:54:23.710
laflin. Yeah right on the river there sponge.

00:54:23.969 --> 00:54:26.050
It was with sponge too, right? I think you guys

00:54:26.050 --> 00:54:29.829
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that was that was a fun,

00:54:29.889 --> 00:54:32.929
uh fun tour. I just saw everclear and hubistank

00:54:32.929 --> 00:54:37.050
Uh in san diego, uh last month pretty cool pretty

00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:39.210
cool playing again. They they they've been yeah,

00:54:39.210 --> 00:54:41.409
they're good Yeah, they're good bad. I heard

00:54:41.409 --> 00:54:45.190
I heard art The lead singer of who was tank is

00:54:45.190 --> 00:54:47.110
the brother of the guy that I just mentioned

00:54:47.110 --> 00:54:50.190
our security guard Tom Rob like his family Rob

00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:53.889
is his whole family like Tom Rob's family Tom

00:54:53.889 --> 00:54:56.389
Rob is a security specialist and he works with

00:54:56.389 --> 00:54:58.530
like Metallica now and all these big bands, but

00:54:58.530 --> 00:55:02.429
he's also an amazing artist like he does pastel

00:55:02.429 --> 00:55:07.369
and pencil drawings like amazing stuff and so

00:55:07.369 --> 00:55:09.630
you have Doug Rob who's a accomplished musician.

00:55:10.030 --> 00:55:12.389
His other brother, his older brother, was one

00:55:12.389 --> 00:55:15.030
of the head designers for BMW motorcycles forever.

00:55:15.869 --> 00:55:19.190
Wow. Very, very artistic family and very talented

00:55:19.190 --> 00:55:22.269
on different, you know, artistic fronts. But

00:55:22.269 --> 00:55:25.849
anyway, connection. The BMW motorcycle is not

00:55:25.849 --> 00:55:27.570
one of the best looking motorcycles, by the way.

00:55:27.610 --> 00:55:30.530
Just want to put that out there. It's like a

00:55:30.530 --> 00:55:33.849
weird. I don't know, dude. I love BMW bikes than

00:55:33.849 --> 00:55:38.110
like laid back. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you tried

00:55:38.110 --> 00:55:41.730
to mix luxury on something that's not really

00:55:41.730 --> 00:55:44.309
luxurious, you know, same motorcycles like you're

00:55:44.309 --> 00:55:46.070
roughing it. You know, you're not having fucking,

00:55:46.070 --> 00:55:48.570
you know, whatever they have on. They just look

00:55:48.570 --> 00:55:51.889
like too much for me for a motorcycle. On a on

00:55:51.889 --> 00:55:54.110
a side note, the other day, I did see The Who

00:55:54.110 --> 00:55:56.409
with Billy Idol. That was a pretty cool show.

00:55:56.849 --> 00:56:00.269
Really? Yeah, that was at MGM grand. I saw it

00:56:00.269 --> 00:56:02.130
the other day and boy those guys still sound

00:56:02.130 --> 00:56:04.590
fucking great Billy Idol was great, too Yeah,

00:56:04.590 --> 00:56:07.090
but those guys those guys in the who are just

00:56:07.090 --> 00:56:09.429
they're just incredible. It was a really really

00:56:09.429 --> 00:56:12.489
good show This this is their their last tour,

00:56:12.550 --> 00:56:15.030
right? They've said that yeah, right Yeah, but

00:56:15.030 --> 00:56:17.710
I think a couple times like when they went out

00:56:17.710 --> 00:56:19.389
with the black crow Yeah, the black hose were

00:56:19.389 --> 00:56:21.349
doing Led Zeppelin and then the who was like

00:56:21.349 --> 00:56:22.789
the next night like they were doing like this

00:56:22.789 --> 00:56:24.929
dual tour thing I'm pretty sure that was supposed

00:56:24.929 --> 00:56:27.679
to be the who's last tour Well, you know how

00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.519
they always say it's the last tour and then they

00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.639
come back and do another one and make money but

00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:33.820
Yeah, I've seen a lot of good shows in the last

00:56:33.820 --> 00:56:35.519
year, but that was phenomenal. That was the other

00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.199
day at MG Did you guys ever play MGM grand Chad

00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.019
that you remember in Vegas? No, we never I don't

00:56:41.019 --> 00:56:42.659
think we ever played it though. Was it in the

00:56:42.659 --> 00:56:45.699
arena there? Yeah. Yeah. No, we never played

00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:49.199
that venue I saw you guys in there for the AVN

00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.699
Awards or party there for the AVN Awards No,

00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:57.869
I went to that was that a resource world The

00:56:57.869 --> 00:57:01.230
new Hilton property, but yes. That is the best.

00:57:01.449 --> 00:57:04.469
Okay. I will say that is the best red carpet

00:57:04.469 --> 00:57:07.409
that I've done of any red carpet with these porn

00:57:07.409 --> 00:57:09.989
stars. I asked them, who would you rather do

00:57:09.989 --> 00:57:12.550
a sex scene with Adolf Hitler or Osama bin Laden?

00:57:12.570 --> 00:57:15.190
And they give me these real answers. Well, I

00:57:15.190 --> 00:57:17.909
kind of like his mustache, but I like Osama's,

00:57:17.909 --> 00:57:20.530
you know, style. You wouldn't believe the answers

00:57:20.530 --> 00:57:22.650
I got. I asked them like, what's the worst thing

00:57:22.650 --> 00:57:25.090
that ever happened to you on set? I mean, you

00:57:25.090 --> 00:57:27.030
wouldn't even believe the answers I got, but

00:57:27.030 --> 00:57:30.250
it's the one red carpet. It's fucking, I mean,

00:57:30.250 --> 00:57:31.889
I can give you a few answers, but yeah, it's

00:57:31.889 --> 00:57:34.409
fucking crazy. The stuff I hear, but I always

00:57:34.409 --> 00:57:36.070
do that red carpet because it's always a lot

00:57:36.070 --> 00:57:39.929
of fun. Well, bring me plus my Brian. I have

00:57:39.929 --> 00:57:43.030
a good, hold on, John. Sorry. My friend is, he

00:57:43.030 --> 00:57:45.769
works in that industry. He, he works in the toy

00:57:45.769 --> 00:57:48.170
industry, the adult toy industry. Right. And

00:57:48.170 --> 00:57:50.889
he's been in it for years and years. And so he's,

00:57:50.889 --> 00:57:54.170
he's gone to the AVN like, every friggin year

00:57:54.170 --> 00:57:57.130
for the past 20 years. And this was the first

00:57:57.130 --> 00:58:01.090
AVNs after COVID had happened, right? So it was,

00:58:01.369 --> 00:58:06.250
was it 22? I think it was 22. And so he told

00:58:06.250 --> 00:58:11.469
me that. Maybe 21. What's that? Maybe 21. I don't

00:58:11.469 --> 00:58:13.289
know. Right, because wasn't Vegas open by that

00:58:13.289 --> 00:58:16.250
point? Maybe not. Vegas was open like not too

00:58:16.250 --> 00:58:19.889
long after, yeah, COVID. Anyway. So we go there

00:58:19.889 --> 00:58:22.429
and he's he's told me what happens in years past

00:58:22.429 --> 00:58:24.530
like you know he goes to all the VIP parties

00:58:24.530 --> 00:58:27.570
and like you know freaking hotel like rented

00:58:27.570 --> 00:58:29.809
hotel rooms and like all kinds of debauchery

00:58:29.809 --> 00:58:31.869
shit's going on and you might get lucky and dot

00:58:31.869 --> 00:58:34.250
it out great i'm like fuck let's go man i'm ready

00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:37.929
i'm single i'm out let's do this and so we get

00:58:37.929 --> 00:58:40.190
there and it's like i said it's the first year

00:58:40.190 --> 00:58:43.710
after covid shut shut it all down and It was

00:58:43.710 --> 00:58:46.010
we just ended up having dinner together every

00:58:46.010 --> 00:58:47.889
night because and he's an old high school friend.

00:58:47.929 --> 00:58:51.090
It was awesome to catch up with him, but no crazy

00:58:51.090 --> 00:58:53.409
parties. Nothing like that happened. He's like,

00:58:53.409 --> 00:58:55.949
man, I'm so sorry. I was like, no, it's cool.

00:58:56.030 --> 00:58:59.329
Yeah, I think you're the actual awards. And the

00:58:59.329 --> 00:59:02.349
guy who got like best male performer, his speech

00:59:02.349 --> 00:59:05.550
was he didn't I don't think he was trying it,

00:59:05.550 --> 00:59:07.610
but it was just like the speech in Boogie Nights.

00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.500
Just like Mark Wahlberg's speech in Boogie Nights.

00:59:12.619 --> 00:59:15.519
I was just like, it really is unbelievable. It's

00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.900
funny. The best blow job scene goes to and the

00:59:18.900 --> 00:59:21.440
woman gets on stage and starts crying. It's like

00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:25.409
it's unreal. Yeah, I have a few friends in Vegas

00:59:25.409 --> 00:59:27.670
in that industry. Evan Stone, pretty popular

00:59:27.670 --> 00:59:30.809
male porn star. He does my show sometimes. Katie

00:59:30.809 --> 00:59:35.289
Morgan is a friend of mine. They're interesting

00:59:35.289 --> 00:59:37.590
people, that's for sure, and they're fun to hang

00:59:37.590 --> 00:59:40.610
out with. But yeah, that award show is nuts.

00:59:41.769 --> 00:59:45.550
It's absolutely crazy. It's fun. The expo's insane.

00:59:45.650 --> 00:59:48.750
I have so many stories from the expo. It's just

00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:51.730
unbelievably insane. Um, but uh, where do they

00:59:51.730 --> 00:59:53.309
have I think they have it back now at the hard

00:59:53.309 --> 00:59:55.710
rock now the virgin It's called the virgin nice

00:59:55.710 --> 00:59:58.489
now. Yeah, they brought it back there. All right.

00:59:58.590 --> 01:00:01.429
Yes. Yeah, that's simply that's yeah It was that

01:00:01.429 --> 01:00:03.369
resource world that the year I did and it was

01:00:03.369 --> 01:00:05.929
like It was just weird. You guys gotta come out

01:00:05.929 --> 01:00:07.489
for the avians this year, man. What are you guys

01:00:07.489 --> 01:00:10.530
waiting for? I would like my friend when are

01:00:10.530 --> 01:00:13.230
they there in january, right? I might be too

01:00:13.230 --> 01:00:16.789
horny to go there You should come out there man.

01:00:16.889 --> 01:00:19.130
I should come back and see if it got any better

01:00:19.130 --> 01:00:22.059
since you know since it's you know a few years

01:00:22.059 --> 01:00:25.039
past the uh the show i went to the economy are

01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:26.800
struggling a little bit but you can probably

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:29.179
get good deals on hotel rooms these days and

01:00:29.179 --> 01:00:31.500
and uh i don't know i mean i was on the strip

01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:33.599
you know a few days ago and it was pretty packed

01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:37.199
it was busy so you know vegas is vegas and uh

01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:38.699
there's always something fun to do here i love

01:00:38.699 --> 01:00:41.599
it um and there's not too many other places in

01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.179
the country i'd rather live than vegas i have

01:00:43.179 --> 01:00:46.130
great friends here really you know Great friends

01:00:46.130 --> 01:00:48.110
that the music I mean the entertainment capital

01:00:48.110 --> 01:00:50.789
of the world. It's it's incredible and the best

01:00:50.789 --> 01:00:52.449
restaurants Yeah, there's not a lot of culture

01:00:52.449 --> 01:00:55.230
here. Yeah, it gets really hot for a few months,

01:00:55.230 --> 01:00:57.409
but I love it here I don't like LA. I'd rather

01:00:57.409 --> 01:01:00.409
live here than LA. Yeah Well, I've been thinking

01:01:00.409 --> 01:01:02.650
about getting a you know, establishing residency

01:01:02.650 --> 01:01:04.829
in Vegas because you know, my my girls are 11

01:01:04.829 --> 01:01:08.449
So and my son 16, so I got to be around here

01:01:08.449 --> 01:01:11.389
until they turn 18 but I'd like to establish

01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:13.250
residency in Vegas because I can go back and

01:01:13.250 --> 01:01:15.090
forth. You should have to pay California for

01:01:15.090 --> 01:01:20.289
state income tax. Yeah. So, but it's funny, if

01:01:20.289 --> 01:01:21.909
I do that, Brian, I'll be definitely be looking

01:01:21.909 --> 01:01:24.309
you up because I'll need. Yeah, for sure. Hang

01:01:24.309 --> 01:01:27.710
with. Absolutely, dude. Yeah, absolutely. And

01:01:27.710 --> 01:01:30.590
if if ever you need Richard's contact or anything,

01:01:30.710 --> 01:01:32.269
just let me know. I'm sure he'd love to talk

01:01:32.269 --> 01:01:33.369
to you. I'm going to have that conversation with

01:01:33.369 --> 01:01:37.349
Chad for sure. Cool. Cool. Cool. Sounds good.

01:01:37.730 --> 01:01:41.650
Absolutely. That comes to fruition. I think he

01:01:41.650 --> 01:01:43.130
would he would definitely want to talk to you

01:01:43.130 --> 01:01:44.630
guys about it for sure. He's still doing his

01:01:44.630 --> 01:01:47.170
filter stuff, but he's always looking to do side

01:01:47.170 --> 01:01:49.210
projects and stuff like that, like army of anyone.

01:01:49.210 --> 01:01:51.769
They were they were awesome. So that would be

01:01:51.769 --> 01:01:54.349
cool. But I won't take you to a live show. I

01:01:54.349 --> 01:01:56.530
promise, Chad, I won't do that. I'm not going

01:01:56.530 --> 01:02:01.130
to go to go kicking and screaming. Jamie's in

01:02:01.130 --> 01:02:02.750
Vegas at the end of the month. What do you got

01:02:02.750 --> 01:02:05.239
going on there, Jamie? Are you stripping? We

01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.639
heard that's the new profession. Dang, what are

01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:13.719
you doing? Hey now. They do have those maggots.

01:02:14.579 --> 01:02:18.139
Yes, those two exactly. Yes, they do. I'm a little

01:02:18.139 --> 01:02:20.199
too horny to go to the AVNs. I'll be in the,

01:02:20.300 --> 01:02:22.159
you know, I'll be jerking off on people just

01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:23.820
as they're walking by, as they're walking by

01:02:23.820 --> 01:02:26.190
with their pasties on and be like, hey now. Come

01:02:26.190 --> 01:02:32.230
over here. I'll tell you a quick story. There's

01:02:32.230 --> 01:02:34.230
an only fans model. She's a good friend of mine.

01:02:34.349 --> 01:02:37.489
Her name is Nicole Mitchell. And she goes, I

01:02:37.489 --> 01:02:40.010
go to the AVNs with hers last year. She sells

01:02:40.010 --> 01:02:42.670
her underwear. Okay. At the AVN awards and people

01:02:42.670 --> 01:02:44.369
recognize her and she sells them for like 200

01:02:44.369 --> 01:02:48.159
bucks a pop. And she makes a lot of money doing

01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.679
that and it's weird these for me It's like these

01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.500
fans just come up to her and they give her a

01:02:52.500 --> 01:02:55.079
hug and takes a picture and she gives them a

01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.940
naked sticker that she has and it's like Going

01:02:57.940 --> 01:03:01.219
with her is pretty amazing. We it's it's just

01:03:01.219 --> 01:03:04.039
like it's it's a pretty cool experience It's

01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.980
very interesting. That's for sure, but it's fun

01:03:06.980 --> 01:03:09.780
Right. Would you shoot any OnlyFans content with

01:03:09.780 --> 01:03:11.940
her? Like if she wanted to be the male participant

01:03:11.940 --> 01:03:15.000
in her her video or does she do that or is it

01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.199
just like nude photos she as far as I know right

01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:22.059
now she just does female stuff she has a she's

01:03:22.059 --> 01:03:25.000
she is engaged and I don't think her partner

01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.039
would be comfortable with that can't blame him

01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.719
for that by the way but she does do female stuff

01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:36.000
and when she comes to town we when she comes

01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.530
to town we always have fun Uh, she likes women

01:03:38.530 --> 01:03:41.309
as well. So, uh, that's something that's something

01:03:41.309 --> 01:03:43.110
we haven't that's something we have in common

01:03:43.110 --> 01:03:46.110
john I will write about some guests for our show,

01:03:46.389 --> 01:03:50.250
man Yeah, i'll look at nicole would nicole would

01:03:50.250 --> 01:03:52.510
absolutely do your show look her up nicole mitchell

01:03:52.510 --> 01:03:55.130
with a k She would absolutely do your show. She's

01:03:55.130 --> 01:03:58.150
so she comes from a uh, she used to be a pastor

01:03:58.150 --> 01:04:01.570
So she's done the jimmy. Kimmel show she's done.

01:04:01.690 --> 01:04:03.949
Dr. Phil. She's done the jimmy. Kimmel show She

01:04:03.949 --> 01:04:06.590
comes from a very religious alt -right family

01:04:07.190 --> 01:04:09.369
She used to be a pastor and she got out of that

01:04:09.369 --> 01:04:11.829
lifestyle and now she's making tons of money

01:04:11.829 --> 01:04:15.650
on OnlyFans and and it yeah, she's actually extremely

01:04:15.650 --> 01:04:20.170
intelligent To talk about anything with her And

01:04:20.170 --> 01:04:23.269
yeah, she yeah women that take their clothes

01:04:23.269 --> 01:04:27.769
off are intelligent. I did not know that Some

01:04:27.769 --> 01:04:30.230
of them let me ask you some of them how would

01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:33.969
how would you guys feel if you were dating a

01:04:33.969 --> 01:04:36.849
chick and then she got into OnlyFans. Not like

01:04:36.849 --> 01:04:39.489
you met her and she was already in there, but

01:04:39.489 --> 01:04:41.469
you guys were dating for a little bit and then

01:04:41.469 --> 01:04:43.110
she got into OnlyFans. Are you cool with that?

01:04:43.250 --> 01:04:45.550
Are you trying to get her to shy away from it?

01:04:46.190 --> 01:04:48.909
You're cool with it. My ex -fiance, we were in

01:04:48.909 --> 01:04:52.769
an open polygamy, whatever you'd call it, relationship.

01:04:53.130 --> 01:04:55.650
And I tried it. I didn't like it. I wouldn't

01:04:55.650 --> 01:04:59.139
have a problem dating someone As long as they're

01:04:59.139 --> 01:05:01.900
not banging other guys, does that make sense?

01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.579
Yeah. Yeah. As far as the. I mean, yeah, I mean,

01:05:07.739 --> 01:05:09.300
only fans, you know, you're in front of a camera,

01:05:09.300 --> 01:05:11.760
you know, OK, so everyone gets to see my girlfriend

01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:14.219
naked. So what? As long as they're not banging

01:05:14.219 --> 01:05:16.360
her, I'm OK with that. That's just me. That's

01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.320
just me. You know, I don't know if I have a I

01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.639
mean, just kind of like you. Similarly, I would

01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.659
not have a problem with with those parameters.

01:05:24.650 --> 01:05:28.550
I think if I went on rail by other guys, I don't

01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:31.349
know about that. Yeah, I've hooked up that's

01:05:31.349 --> 01:05:35.150
where I draw already. Yeah, well, that we're

01:05:35.150 --> 01:05:36.849
already in OnlyFans and I'm cool with that, but

01:05:36.849 --> 01:05:38.989
I think if I was with somebody and then she went

01:05:38.989 --> 01:05:41.570
into it, I don't know. Like, I don't mind if

01:05:41.570 --> 01:05:44.010
somebody is already seen before I got there.

01:05:44.010 --> 01:05:45.750
You know what I'm saying? But now that I've gotten

01:05:45.750 --> 01:05:48.190
there and then you're going to show, I don't

01:05:48.190 --> 01:05:50.329
know if I'm down with that. If it was already

01:05:50.329 --> 01:05:52.489
being shown before and then we hooked up. OK,

01:05:53.190 --> 01:05:56.449
but. And now that we're together and you want

01:05:56.449 --> 01:05:59.809
to do it, I don't know if I'm down. I just have

01:05:59.809 --> 01:06:02.889
to say this. I'm very jealous of Chad that when,

01:06:02.889 --> 01:06:05.309
you know, at the heat of live, I can't even imagine

01:06:05.309 --> 01:06:08.449
all the women that were backstage and I can't

01:06:08.449 --> 01:06:10.809
even imagine the women that were throwing themselves

01:06:10.809 --> 01:06:14.309
at you guys. Yeah, I can't imagine. For me, I

01:06:14.309 --> 01:06:21.050
was in a relationship from like 93 until 2000.

01:06:22.219 --> 01:06:25.840
I got married in 96 until 2000. It's bad timing.

01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.840
I know, it's very bad timing. My parents never

01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.159
cheated on each other. That was playing that

01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:40.739
part. I took great pride in not succumbing to

01:06:40.739 --> 01:06:44.739
those temptations. But when I got divorced in

01:06:44.739 --> 01:06:48.800
2000 until I met my second wife, Yeah, all bets

01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:52.539
are off. What? So how does that work? Like, did

01:06:52.539 --> 01:06:54.639
they just bring women backstage? Like, how did

01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:56.619
that even work? Did they, like, just hand out

01:06:56.619 --> 01:06:59.159
meet and greet passes to attractive women? Like,

01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:03.920
does that work? So that was so the live Counting

01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:07.059
Crows Tour in 2000. That's when we were I was

01:07:07.059 --> 01:07:10.340
I was totally single. All the other guys had

01:07:10.340 --> 01:07:12.039
their relationships with they were doing their

01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.659
thing, too. And and. we would, we had Tom Robb,

01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.559
the security guard I mentioned before. We'd like,

01:07:18.659 --> 01:07:20.440
okay, we give him a bunch of passes and we like,

01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.420
go pick out the hot chicks or we would see somebody

01:07:22.420 --> 01:07:24.219
like, I don't want to give her a pass. And I

01:07:24.219 --> 01:07:26.119
don't think, you know, I'd scope the crowd before

01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.460
the show and be like, okay, that one and that

01:07:28.460 --> 01:07:31.199
one. And so yeah, you go out and give them passes

01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.019
and they come back or sometimes. All right. Yeah.

01:07:34.059 --> 01:07:35.699
All right. Forgive me if I'm being too personal

01:07:35.699 --> 01:07:38.579
here, but okay. You go back, chicks go backstage.

01:07:38.739 --> 01:07:40.440
You connect with somebody you're attracted to

01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.500
her. You know, what's going to happen. Are you

01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:44.320
doing it? Are you hanging out with her and getting

01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.860
intimate? There or are you taking her back like

01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:49.480
to the bus to your hotel room? Like what? Never

01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:52.320
I never have done work and you know, but okay

01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.880
back to the hotel if we're staying you got you.

01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.480
Okay Yeah, sometimes a couple couple times on

01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:00.699
the bus like back lounge. Yes. I'm in the back

01:08:00.699 --> 01:08:04.079
lounge. Don't be knocking Never never a bj in

01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:09.940
the porta potty, bro. Come on No, not at the

01:08:09.940 --> 01:08:13.820
venue I got one for my first wife at the venue

01:08:13.820 --> 01:08:18.100
but Oh, how gross. Wow. And wife, dude. Nobody

01:08:18.100 --> 01:08:23.140
wants to hear that. Wow. Come on, man. Me and

01:08:23.140 --> 01:08:25.979
my wife. Were there any women? Were there any

01:08:25.979 --> 01:08:28.140
women that after you did the deed with them that

01:08:28.140 --> 01:08:29.979
they would get somebody else in the band and

01:08:29.979 --> 01:08:33.159
like in the same night? Wow. Not that I know

01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.939
of, but it could have happened. Who knows? Yeah.

01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.760
Chad's ex wife. No, I'm just kidding. How dare

01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:45.140
I? Laurie and says you behave, Chad. Uh, which

01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:49.300
is. Sorry, I ask. Yes. This is the Howard Stern

01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:51.119
to me. I can't help myself. By the way, I'm very

01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:53.100
jealous you did the Howard Stern show. That's

01:08:53.100 --> 01:08:55.840
like a dream of mine. Two times. Yeah, it was

01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.300
cool. Definitely. That's a dream of mine. Yeah,

01:08:58.300 --> 01:09:00.100
that that must have been so much fun. Although,

01:09:00.180 --> 01:09:01.819
isn't it like what? Like fucking six o 'clock

01:09:01.819 --> 01:09:03.960
in the morning. Actually, something three times.

01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:05.920
Yeah, we did. It was early. We did it. We did.

01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:08.739
We did the show at early in the morning. I don't

01:09:08.739 --> 01:09:10.930
know if it was six, but it was early. And then

01:09:10.930 --> 01:09:13.090
we did, he invited us back for his, I think it

01:09:13.090 --> 01:09:17.390
was 50th birthday. He had. Wow. And we all the

01:09:17.390 --> 01:09:19.750
like all the crazy rat packers were there, like

01:09:19.750 --> 01:09:22.909
the the craze and not rat packers, the yeah.

01:09:23.010 --> 01:09:25.829
What do you call them? What's your name? Whack

01:09:25.829 --> 01:09:28.170
back, whack back. Thank you. All the whack packers

01:09:28.170 --> 01:09:30.390
are there. They were dancing on someone were

01:09:30.390 --> 01:09:32.529
dancing on stage while we were playing. OK, that's

01:09:32.529 --> 01:09:34.770
great. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Yeah, he was

01:09:34.770 --> 01:09:38.430
there. And then the third time was when we went

01:09:38.430 --> 01:09:41.699
on with all of our wives. and we like all the

01:09:41.699 --> 01:09:43.939
wives are we brought all the wives specifically

01:09:43.939 --> 01:09:45.979
because you know they're all pretty hot and we

01:09:45.979 --> 01:09:47.779
knew someone would see them and of course how

01:09:47.779 --> 01:09:49.720
was like we heard there's hot chicks out there

01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:51.199
who they were like oh we brought them all in

01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.800
and then patrick told the whole story about how

01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.220
he met his wife and he met his wife because he

01:09:57.220 --> 01:10:01.979
was a dancer at ed's bachelor party wow there's

01:10:01.979 --> 01:10:05.420
god there's actually a picture wow of her up

01:10:05.420 --> 01:10:07.220
you know there's a black beautiful black and

01:10:07.220 --> 01:10:09.560
white photo of patrick sitting and looking up

01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.399
at her dancing for him and that's the first time

01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:17.380
they met love it first wow so howard was all

01:10:17.380 --> 01:10:19.560
intrigued about the story he's like this is like

01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.560
the greatest thing ever this is like you know

01:10:23.240 --> 01:10:25.340
The dancer and stripper whatever you want to

01:10:25.340 --> 01:10:27.319
call her who meets the rock star and then now

01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:29.039
they're married and they have kids like we got

01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.020
to make a movie about this Yeah, I never saw

01:10:32.020 --> 01:10:34.100
that the only appearance you guys made on stern

01:10:34.100 --> 01:10:37.060
that I watched what it played on e It was one

01:10:37.060 --> 01:10:39.500
one of you had like a blonde pr lady and she

01:10:39.500 --> 01:10:41.319
was like dancing with howard. Do you remember

01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:44.399
that? That probably was the first the first time

01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:47.680
around like 97. Okay. Okay. Yeah Yeah, I remember

01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:49.920
I watched that on on e on the howard stern e

01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.149
show. I don't think I saw the other appearances.

01:10:52.250 --> 01:10:55.909
I wonder if I could find that. The birthday show

01:10:55.909 --> 01:10:59.529
one is certainly online. OK, I'll find that.

01:10:59.770 --> 01:11:01.409
Yeah, birthday show you can totally find. I was

01:11:01.409 --> 01:11:02.930
shocked as fuck because I was listening to Howard

01:11:02.930 --> 01:11:05.430
pretty religiously at that time and they were

01:11:05.430 --> 01:11:07.829
going to air his 50th birthday or 60th, whatever

01:11:07.829 --> 01:11:09.590
it was. And then I saw a live on there. I'm like,

01:11:09.710 --> 01:11:11.289
what the fuck? I didn't know that they were going

01:11:11.289 --> 01:11:12.770
to because it wasn't mentioned or anything. It

01:11:12.770 --> 01:11:15.170
was like kind of a shock. I was like, oh, that's

01:11:15.170 --> 01:11:17.050
cool. He was selling the drama. He loved selling

01:11:17.050 --> 01:11:20.489
the drama. So he said he was a big fan. Yeah.

01:11:20.890 --> 01:11:24.829
Yeah. Robin was a really cool fan. Big titty

01:11:24.829 --> 01:11:31.430
Robin. That's cool. That was when no, I'm trying.

01:11:31.569 --> 01:11:33.670
That was when Jackie had left when you guys had

01:11:33.670 --> 01:11:35.670
done the show, I think. Right. Jackie was gone.

01:11:35.909 --> 01:11:38.810
And I'm trying to remember who they had on the

01:11:38.810 --> 01:11:41.590
show to replace him. Well, Jackie was there the

01:11:41.590 --> 01:11:44.189
first time. I think the first time he was there.

01:11:44.189 --> 01:11:46.390
OK. Second time already might have been already

01:11:46.390 --> 01:11:49.329
when we were on the second. Yeah. He's quite

01:11:49.329 --> 01:11:51.270
a character. Not at the birthday party. Yeah.

01:11:51.270 --> 01:11:54.329
Oh, he's a man. Gotcha. Yeah. Have you seen what

01:11:54.329 --> 01:11:58.069
his nose looks like now? Oh, my God. What the

01:11:58.069 --> 01:12:01.590
fuck, bro? He is speaking of cocaine. Yeah, he

01:12:01.590 --> 01:12:04.869
is fucked up. No, I heard that was heroin. He

01:12:04.869 --> 01:12:06.890
was a big heroin addict. So supposedly he was

01:12:06.890 --> 01:12:10.609
going to get Oxycontin and crush them up and

01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:15.590
he crushed up glass with it and snorted it. And

01:12:15.590 --> 01:12:19.149
that's what fucked up his nose like that. Oh,

01:12:19.170 --> 01:12:23.449
my God. Yeah, that's very funny guy. Very funny

01:12:23.449 --> 01:12:26.869
guy. Yeah. Stand up is really good. But that's

01:12:26.869 --> 01:12:29.090
why I got into radio. I got into radio because

01:12:29.090 --> 01:12:31.310
of the Howard Stern show. But the misconception

01:12:31.310 --> 01:12:33.789
is all you see is female nudity. And I keep telling

01:12:33.789 --> 01:12:35.710
people there's more male nudity on that show

01:12:35.710 --> 01:12:38.430
these days than female nudity. Oh, yeah. These

01:12:38.430 --> 01:12:41.630
days. Yeah. Yeah, but that's why, you know, I

01:12:41.630 --> 01:12:45.350
cock every week. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But, you

01:12:45.350 --> 01:12:47.149
know, I think Howard is the best in the world

01:12:47.149 --> 01:12:49.810
at interviewing people. He gets everything out

01:12:49.810 --> 01:12:52.289
of them, you know, regardless of, you know, whether

01:12:52.289 --> 01:12:54.090
you like his politics or not. I just think the

01:12:54.090 --> 01:12:56.850
way he interviews people, he's so good at making

01:12:56.850 --> 01:12:58.810
them comfortable. And that's, you know, I try

01:12:58.810 --> 01:13:00.590
to learn from him. And that's what I loved about

01:13:00.590 --> 01:13:03.029
him the most. Obviously, it's a very funny show.

01:13:03.109 --> 01:13:05.489
And but I just love the way he interviews people.

01:13:05.569 --> 01:13:08.109
And listen. Whether you like or dislike Hillary

01:13:08.109 --> 01:13:09.890
Clinton by the way, I'm not a Hillary Clinton

01:13:09.890 --> 01:13:12.430
fan and I never have been But I thought the interview

01:13:12.430 --> 01:13:14.670
that he did with her. She finally showed her

01:13:14.670 --> 01:13:17.149
human side like I'm like, where is this Hillary?

01:13:17.189 --> 01:13:20.029
You know, she wasn't robotic, but that's right.

01:13:20.250 --> 01:13:23.270
That's Howard That's how we're able to you know,

01:13:23.270 --> 01:13:25.210
and that's why I love them, you know, I think

01:13:25.210 --> 01:13:28.489
it's He's been in therapy for whatever. I think

01:13:28.489 --> 01:13:30.729
he's taking a lot of shit He's learned in therapy

01:13:30.729 --> 01:13:32.989
and use it in his interviews. It seems like he's

01:13:32.989 --> 01:13:37.399
usually like those type of yeah Yeah, he's a

01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.859
messed up guy. I've heard he he doesn't hardly

01:13:39.859 --> 01:13:44.380
ever goes out. He's got anxiety OCD. He's a germaphobe

01:13:44.380 --> 01:13:47.340
Yeah, I've heard he's he's not a very social

01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:51.060
person But then when he goes on the radio, you

01:13:51.060 --> 01:13:52.939
know, he's different guy. I mean talking he talks

01:13:52.939 --> 01:13:54.460
about his parents I don't think he had a very

01:13:54.460 --> 01:14:00.460
loving upbringing No, I love the movie What's

01:14:00.460 --> 01:14:05.789
that I love the movie private parts Yeah, another

01:14:05.789 --> 01:14:08.710
90s movie, another 90s movie. Yeah, exactly.

01:14:09.369 --> 01:14:12.430
Yeah, we found out. I love it. We found out when

01:14:12.430 --> 01:14:14.350
Jackie the Jokeman was on this show that a lot

01:14:14.350 --> 01:14:17.090
of that show, while it seems like it's live and

01:14:17.090 --> 01:14:19.909
just unfolding, a lot of it is scripted. And,

01:14:20.229 --> 01:14:22.989
you know, what seems like is not is like, you

01:14:22.989 --> 01:14:24.970
know, it's a scripted show, which kind of blew

01:14:24.970 --> 01:14:27.729
my mind. I'm like, no way, man. So they're like

01:14:27.729 --> 01:14:29.890
acting rather than putting on a radio show for

01:14:29.890 --> 01:14:32.229
a lot of it. Yeah. I'm one of those guys that

01:14:32.229 --> 01:14:34.350
goes to sporting events and shouts out Baba Bui.

01:14:34.510 --> 01:14:37.449
Yeah, I'm one of those guys. Yeah, the golf.

01:14:38.109 --> 01:14:42.109
Someone's seeing it. I fucking love it. I love

01:14:42.109 --> 01:14:45.369
it. I love it. But yeah, do you guys play golf

01:14:45.369 --> 01:14:50.970
now? I tried. I suck. Same. Yeah. First time

01:14:50.970 --> 01:14:55.229
ever, you know, my first ex's dad was a big golfer

01:14:55.229 --> 01:14:56.770
and he took me out a couple of times and take

01:14:56.770 --> 01:14:59.590
me like three hours to play nine holes. So I'm

01:14:59.590 --> 01:15:02.250
just whacking it all. That's not good. No. That's

01:15:02.250 --> 01:15:06.189
not good. That's the whole course. I like to

01:15:06.189 --> 01:15:08.850
do things that I have some some sort of natural

01:15:08.850 --> 01:15:11.529
ability to do, like I can have some concepts

01:15:11.529 --> 01:15:14.189
of doing, but golf is not one of those every

01:15:14.189 --> 01:15:18.229
time. It's really good. I'm really good at fingering

01:15:18.229 --> 01:15:23.970
ladies, so I. You know, see, I can't talk like

01:15:23.970 --> 01:15:25.989
this on my show. I get in trouble. You know,

01:15:25.989 --> 01:15:28.489
I can't do it. I wish I could. All right. Here's

01:15:28.489 --> 01:15:30.409
a question. Chad, if you were doing karaoke.

01:15:30.729 --> 01:15:33.369
What would be the one song you would sing if

01:15:33.369 --> 01:15:36.010
you did karaoke? One of my favorite U2 songs

01:15:36.010 --> 01:15:39.729
is one. I would probably sing that one If you

01:15:39.729 --> 01:15:46.989
had to sing a live song, what would it be? That's

01:15:46.989 --> 01:15:49.810
I mean something that's popular I was my first

01:15:49.810 --> 01:15:51.930
thing my first thought was ghosts, but it's not

01:15:51.930 --> 01:15:56.449
very popular maybe They selling the drama I think

01:15:56.449 --> 01:16:00.699
I could sing selling the drama Fun we got we

01:16:00.699 --> 01:16:03.000
got a video that and then post it on social media

01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:04.560
You got to come out here and sing selling the

01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:09.619
drama karaoke. We got to do that I bet you'd

01:16:09.619 --> 01:16:11.319
be better than Chad Taylor singing the song.

01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:14.220
I bet you do a better job all due respect to

01:16:14.220 --> 01:16:17.119
Chad I would not be putting a spin on it. I would

01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.939
try to be true to the yeah Yeah, well tellers

01:16:20.939 --> 01:16:23.239
vocals were always kind of fucking cool and original

01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.100
bro Like when he's singing I alone love you in

01:16:25.100 --> 01:16:27.000
the back of like Ed doing it. It's like a weird

01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.449
It's like a you know It's a different voice.

01:16:29.810 --> 01:16:30.949
You know what I'm saying? It's not like some,

01:16:31.109 --> 01:16:33.430
it's a, it's unique. Yeah. Yeah. It was good.

01:16:33.909 --> 01:16:35.970
Yep. That was good. I liked it, but Chad, you

01:16:35.970 --> 01:16:37.729
did a little bit of singing, right? I did back

01:16:37.729 --> 01:16:41.170
on the back up some mental jewelry and on throwing

01:16:41.170 --> 01:16:44.050
copper. And I, um, for the tour touring for mental

01:16:44.050 --> 01:16:46.489
jewelry, I would sing backups live. And then

01:16:46.489 --> 01:16:48.409
after that, I was like, I don't want to sing

01:16:48.409 --> 01:16:51.189
live anymore. So, but I did sing backups on,

01:16:51.189 --> 01:16:56.069
on I alone and horse. I do the high part on horse.

01:16:56.489 --> 01:17:00.729
That's crazy. Um, And then I sang on Pain Lies

01:17:00.729 --> 01:17:05.170
and On the Riverside. Operation Spirit, I don't

01:17:05.170 --> 01:17:07.130
know. Anyway, a few songs I'd have to go back

01:17:07.130 --> 01:17:09.850
and listen to and remember. But yeah, I sang

01:17:09.850 --> 01:17:12.569
backups for a while. Did you find playing the

01:17:12.569 --> 01:17:15.029
drums and singing at the same time? Was that

01:17:15.029 --> 01:17:18.449
difficult? What's that? Was playing the drums

01:17:18.449 --> 01:17:20.470
and singing at the same time, was that a difficult

01:17:20.470 --> 01:17:21.810
task? Yeah, that's why I was not doing it. I

01:17:21.810 --> 01:17:23.609
was doing that all through mental jewelry. I

01:17:23.609 --> 01:17:25.270
was singing backup and playing drums. I was like,

01:17:25.270 --> 01:17:26.729
I don't want to fucking do this anymore. I'm

01:17:26.729 --> 01:17:29.220
doing too much. I'm doing enough back here. I

01:17:29.220 --> 01:17:31.119
don't need to be singing to. So there's a lot

01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:33.060
of musicians that are like that. Yeah. Yeah.

01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.199
Well, kudos to guys that are lead singers and

01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.739
play drums like, you know, that's Phil Collins,

01:17:39.539 --> 01:17:41.239
Richard. Richard won't play the guitar and sing.

01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.680
He refuses. So, you know, there's a lot of musicians

01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.579
that are like that. Yeah. And I don't blame like

01:17:47.579 --> 01:17:50.260
like Kurt Cobain, I think got there. He hired.

01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:53.279
The fourth member of Nirvana, Patch Mir, I think,

01:17:53.340 --> 01:17:55.460
so he didn't have to play like the leads or something

01:17:55.460 --> 01:17:57.939
on guitar. He was still playing guitar when Patch

01:17:57.939 --> 01:18:02.319
Mir was playing. Yeah, but that was his excuse,

01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.460
I think. Maybe next time I'll sing a live song

01:18:05.460 --> 01:18:07.020
and try to ruin it, and you guys could give me

01:18:07.020 --> 01:18:09.720
on a scale of one to ten how bad it was. Maybe

01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.760
I could do that. Yeah, dude, I'm down for that.

01:18:13.460 --> 01:18:17.039
I'm down for that. I used to sing TBD back in...

01:18:17.100 --> 01:18:20.359
College I used to do I sang a few of your songs.

01:18:20.460 --> 01:18:23.760
Yeah tbd was one of them lightning crashes Yeah,

01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:25.939
that's awesome, but i'm not a professional. I'm

01:18:25.939 --> 01:18:28.800
not a professional You could do the octaves and

01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:30.819
lightning crashes that that's pretty cool or

01:18:30.819 --> 01:18:32.979
try to i'll do it right now if you want me to

01:18:32.979 --> 01:18:35.039
I don't care. I'll do it right now Look at this.

01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:38.800
Yes, sir You want me to do tbd or lightning crashes

01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:42.659
the chorus, which one? uh Go away and crashes

01:18:42.659 --> 01:18:44.359
because a lot of people will know that, you know,

01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:45.899
right. All right. As opposed to. All right. Here

01:18:45.899 --> 01:18:49.739
we go. Here we go. Even. All right. Cool. Oh,

01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:57.500
I feel it coming back again. Like a ruling thought

01:18:57.500 --> 01:19:02.340
and chasing the wind forces pulling from the

01:19:02.340 --> 01:19:08.659
center of the earth again. I can feel it. Not

01:19:08.659 --> 01:19:13.000
bad. Nice. Nice. Yeah, bro. That's what I'm talking

01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:19.159
about. Not bad. Not bad. Made it kind of his

01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:21.760
own. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't bong

01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:27.979
bong. This is how I go out tonight. Dressed in

01:19:27.979 --> 01:19:35.819
blue by the book tonight. This is how I go out

01:19:35.819 --> 01:19:39.949
tonight. I don't need a book. I still got it

01:19:39.949 --> 01:19:43.590
a little bit. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Flapping again.

01:19:44.770 --> 01:19:50.609
Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Average. Average.

01:19:50.750 --> 01:19:53.250
I can hold my own. I can hold my own. I mean,

01:19:53.390 --> 01:19:55.590
Brian, I mean, this is just straight up vocals.

01:19:55.750 --> 01:19:58.930
You had some fucking studio tricks to that. You

01:19:58.930 --> 01:20:02.140
know, you're there, man. You know, not bad, not

01:20:02.140 --> 01:20:05.800
bad. I think my piano, my key, my piano karaoke

01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:09.119
go to is John Lennon, Imagine and Gary Jules,

01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:11.819
Mad World. I like singing those two songs, you

01:20:11.819 --> 01:20:14.039
know, Gary Jules, Mad World. I got to check that

01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:15.880
one out. I don't know. That's a that's a remake

01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.020
of the Tears for Fears, Mad World song. OK. Oh,

01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:22.520
great. Yes. It's a slower version. OK, cool.

01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.619
Yeah, the slower version. Yeah. Well, why don't

01:20:25.619 --> 01:20:27.600
you just hire me to be the news? new lead singer

01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.800
alive. I think you guys should just hire me.

01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.359
I mean, I do have a shaved head. So, you know,

01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:34.979
I do look like get a little bit. I'll just have

01:20:34.979 --> 01:20:36.720
to I'll just have to get rid of this stuff. I

01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:39.000
guarantee you my ego is not as large as his.

01:20:39.300 --> 01:20:42.079
I guarantee you I won't be. I guarantee you,

01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:44.100
I'm a better friend. I do have friends from high

01:20:44.100 --> 01:20:45.779
school that I still talk to and we're not suing

01:20:45.779 --> 01:20:48.840
each other. So that's the good news. Yeah. I

01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.439
won't ask. I won't ask for $100 ,000 bonus for

01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:56.600
concerts. I won't ask for that. I'd be really

01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.159
easy to deal with. Really easy. Really easy.

01:21:00.539 --> 01:21:03.260
Keep that. I'll just ask for 1%. Yeah, 1%. I'll

01:21:03.260 --> 01:21:10.170
ask for 1%. Great. I won't claim I wrote all

01:21:10.170 --> 01:21:12.970
the songs. I won't claim any of that stuff. You

01:21:12.970 --> 01:21:16.550
know, I promise. But you did start the band live

01:21:16.550 --> 01:21:19.270
though, right? Like that was all you. You had

01:21:19.270 --> 01:21:21.369
nothing to do with it. That was you. I started

01:21:21.369 --> 01:21:23.470
everything when I was 13. Yep, I started everything.

01:21:23.989 --> 01:21:25.289
He started it. I wrote every song. He named it.

01:21:25.369 --> 01:21:27.229
We begged him to be in it. You know, all those

01:21:27.229 --> 01:21:30.569
good things. All that stuff, dude. He was the

01:21:30.569 --> 01:21:33.850
line over the eye in life. He came up with that.

01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:37.140
All that. I can just see you guys now posting

01:21:37.140 --> 01:21:39.699
that on social media. Political libtard idiot

01:21:39.699 --> 01:21:42.180
singing lightning crashes. I could see you guys

01:21:42.180 --> 01:21:44.819
are going to post that now, right? Embarrass

01:21:44.819 --> 01:21:48.119
me. No, dude. Like I said, I liked it. Seemed

01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:50.819
like some audience. This is a good question before

01:21:50.819 --> 01:21:53.420
we start wrapping this up. How did you handle

01:21:53.420 --> 01:21:55.420
Leedsinger bonus? Did the band say anything to

01:21:55.420 --> 01:21:57.760
him? I mean, we were told that by management.

01:21:58.140 --> 01:22:00.380
So Chad, I think Chad and I were on the phone.

01:22:00.909 --> 01:22:03.470
And we were told that by management that he wanted

01:22:03.470 --> 01:22:05.229
to leave Senior Brothers and we were like, fuck

01:22:05.229 --> 01:22:08.050
him. Like we went off to the to the manager,

01:22:09.470 --> 01:22:11.670
but we weren't on. He would he would never get

01:22:11.670 --> 01:22:15.670
on the phone or in a room with three of us to

01:22:15.670 --> 01:22:20.449
like discuss shit. Wow. That's fucked up. What

01:22:20.449 --> 01:22:23.510
a wacky relationship like like that's hanging

01:22:23.510 --> 01:22:25.470
in the balance. And then you guys got to go perform

01:22:25.470 --> 01:22:28.039
on stage together. It's like. What did that?

01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:31.199
Well, this was when he had left. So he went to

01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.199
do a solo thing. And I think this is before we

01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:37.359
sued him the first time. And the gig got offered.

01:22:37.460 --> 01:22:38.960
I forget. I think it was in Europe or something.

01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:41.840
And somebody pulled out of a big festival and

01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:43.500
they offered us like, I don't know, four hundred

01:22:43.500 --> 01:22:45.640
thousand dollars or something crazy to come over.

01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.880
Wow. This gig. And that was how that's how it

01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.460
was presented to us. Well, we got this gig. I

01:22:51.460 --> 01:22:53.760
know you guys are kind of not playing right now,

01:22:53.859 --> 01:22:56.359
but Ed wants a lead singer bonus. And we're like,

01:22:56.380 --> 01:23:00.319
what? Fuck off. How about that? Yeah. So. So

01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:02.039
out of 400 grand, which would have been nice.

01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:04.979
Each of you get a hundu. He wanted a hundu on

01:23:04.979 --> 01:23:09.500
top of all four of you splitting the 300. It

01:23:09.500 --> 01:23:13.760
seems like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

01:23:15.100 --> 01:23:20.229
It seemed to me. That of the three of you that,

01:23:20.489 --> 01:23:22.350
you know, with Ed, it seemed like Patrick hated

01:23:22.350 --> 01:23:26.270
him more than you and Chad. Is that fair to say

01:23:26.270 --> 01:23:28.470
or no? That's what I sensed. I don't know if

01:23:28.470 --> 01:23:30.970
it was hate back then, but it was more, I think

01:23:30.970 --> 01:23:35.270
it was, you know, maybe more standoffish. Yeah.

01:23:35.689 --> 01:23:37.550
The three of us were always about the band, right?

01:23:37.689 --> 01:23:40.609
We were all, Patrick and I were just about the

01:23:40.609 --> 01:23:43.760
band. And what we've learned to what we've discovered

01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.539
over all these years, looking back, is that it

01:23:45.539 --> 01:23:50.159
was just all about him. Right. And using the

01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:54.819
band to further him. Right. So whereas like we

01:23:54.819 --> 01:23:58.479
were just it was too bad. I know it's very, very,

01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.760
very important. Because when you guys were getting

01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:01.960
along, you guys made magic together, man. Those

01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:03.680
albums, when you guys were working on it all,

01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:05.760
it was magic throwing copper secrets somebody,

01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.939
you know, I mean, those are some of my favorite

01:24:07.939 --> 01:24:09.579
albums of all time. And that's when you guys

01:24:09.579 --> 01:24:12.550
were actually working together and you didn't

01:24:12.550 --> 01:24:15.489
have the issues, you know, and that's it's unfortunate,

01:24:15.489 --> 01:24:17.010
you know, because I think you guys still have

01:24:17.010 --> 01:24:19.310
it. If you guys, if he just fucking called you

01:24:19.310 --> 01:24:21.569
guys and just said, hey, man, I fucked up, which

01:24:21.569 --> 01:24:24.189
he never would do. You know, I love you guys.

01:24:24.310 --> 01:24:27.529
I'm sorry. Everything that's happened. You know,

01:24:27.649 --> 01:24:29.930
can we just get in a room and talk if he just

01:24:29.930 --> 01:24:31.869
fucking did that? I'm sure you guys would be

01:24:31.869 --> 01:24:35.270
all for it, but his ego, I guess, gets in the

01:24:35.270 --> 01:24:39.609
way. It's too bad. It really is. You're ruining

01:24:39.609 --> 01:24:42.149
the music with subpar musicians and then you're

01:24:42.149 --> 01:24:44.630
charging fucking three hundred five hundred bucks

01:24:44.630 --> 01:24:47.430
for a meet and greet, bro. Like, how dare you?

01:24:47.670 --> 01:24:50.289
Like, so the show at the Venetian. And by the

01:24:50.289 --> 01:24:51.970
way, I tried to get front row tickets. Here's

01:24:51.970 --> 01:24:54.609
what happens on his tour now. People don't buy

01:24:54.609 --> 01:24:56.569
the meet and greets. So then they release the

01:24:56.569 --> 01:24:58.850
tickets for like 200 bucks or something. But

01:24:58.850 --> 01:25:01.229
if you go on and look at the tickets that are

01:25:01.229 --> 01:25:03.409
being sold now for two shows at the Venetian,

01:25:03.529 --> 01:25:05.270
if you want front row tickets, it's going to

01:25:05.270 --> 01:25:06.970
cost you five hundred and fifty bucks a pop.

01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:09.579
You get a picture with them, a quick hello. Yeah,

01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:11.539
I mean, that's fucking insane. I mean, that's

01:25:11.539 --> 01:25:14.340
crazy. I listen. First of all, I've met him 12,

01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:16.180
whatever. I don't need to meet him, but I'm just

01:25:16.180 --> 01:25:18.100
like, I want to be for one of my favorite bands.

01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:20.500
I want to be up close, you know, and and to be

01:25:20.500 --> 01:25:22.619
charging that kind of money, I think is is insane.

01:25:22.819 --> 01:25:25.319
Couple hundred bucks. No problem. But, you know,

01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.000
it's a little ridiculous. But oh, well, just

01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.979
just to charge for me angry is crazy, bro. Like

01:25:31.979 --> 01:25:33.939
that just like shows like what you're about.

01:25:34.100 --> 01:25:36.560
You're already at the show. You can't take an

01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:39.319
extra 45 minutes to meet fans for free. You're

01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:41.979
going to charge them for that. It used to be

01:25:41.979 --> 01:25:44.300
back in the day where radio stations would do

01:25:44.300 --> 01:25:46.460
contests. And for free, if you won, you got a

01:25:46.460 --> 01:25:48.819
chance to get a backstage pass. But now a lot

01:25:48.819 --> 01:25:51.020
of these, not just Ed, to his defense, a lot

01:25:51.020 --> 01:25:53.880
of other bands these days are doing that. They're

01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.979
charging for meet and greets and merchandise

01:25:55.979 --> 01:25:58.119
and a meet and greet and all that. And that's

01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:00.720
really how a lot of these bands that are not

01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.960
that big these days make money by selling merchandise

01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:05.979
and selling meet and greets and stuff. Unfortunately,

01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:07.960
that's just the way it is now. It is part of

01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:10.079
the whole cycle now. Yeah, it's every I think

01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.539
a lot of like you said, I think most bands do

01:26:12.539 --> 01:26:16.180
that. Unfortunately, but it's like either. Sorry,

01:26:16.300 --> 01:26:20.020
go ahead. I'll say it comes down to the not not

01:26:20.020 --> 01:26:21.880
in defense of it, but it comes down to the economics

01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:23.659
of the music business. Now, like you used to

01:26:23.659 --> 01:26:25.699
have there's one revenue stream you don't have

01:26:25.699 --> 01:26:28.760
anymore selling records. Right. Doesn't really

01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.659
exist anymore. So you make that money and touring

01:26:31.659 --> 01:26:34.130
would be, you know. Another moneymaker. It's

01:26:34.130 --> 01:26:36.149
always been the biggest moneymaker, but now you've

01:26:36.149 --> 01:26:39.550
lost one huge revenue source You know as compared

01:26:39.550 --> 01:26:42.689
to the like the 90s and 2000s, right? And some

01:26:42.689 --> 01:26:44.850
of these bands have are paying for touring they're

01:26:44.850 --> 01:26:48.090
paying the record companies for touring now Like

01:26:48.090 --> 01:26:49.649
back in the day record companies didn't get a

01:26:49.649 --> 01:26:52.609
piece of the touring now. Oh, yeah Yeah, some

01:26:52.609 --> 01:26:55.430
people were some some acts are doing 360 deals

01:26:55.430 --> 01:26:58.250
with their label that pay them a part of all

01:26:58.250 --> 01:27:02.729
their revenue streams No, yeah, no Yeah, it's

01:27:02.729 --> 01:27:04.890
just crazy. But I mean, it's like either don't

01:27:04.890 --> 01:27:07.270
do a meet and greet or if you do it, don't charge.

01:27:07.289 --> 01:27:10.390
I mean, it's just crazy. Yeah, they're already

01:27:10.390 --> 01:27:12.750
at the show. You're doing something separate,

01:27:12.750 --> 01:27:15.130
like, I don't know, like a fucking hang out with

01:27:15.130 --> 01:27:17.329
Ed, you know, for a fucking lunch or something.

01:27:17.409 --> 01:27:19.750
OK, it's different. But after the show, before

01:27:19.750 --> 01:27:22.630
the show, it's like, come on, man. I would not

01:27:22.630 --> 01:27:24.609
want to do that. I just don't think I would get

01:27:24.609 --> 01:27:26.369
along with him. I would not want to. I don't

01:27:26.369 --> 01:27:28.489
think I'd want to have lunch with him. No, there's

01:27:28.489 --> 01:27:29.850
plenty of other people I'd rather have lunch

01:27:29.850 --> 01:27:33.020
with. I don't think there's anybody I would pay

01:27:33.020 --> 01:27:34.819
to meet and greet. You know what I'm saying?

01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:37.840
Like, ever in my life. Jessica Alba. I'd like

01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:40.239
to go to lunch with Jessica Alba, maybe. I made

01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.760
a boner, but just not to say hello to her. No

01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:46.199
way, bro. Like, I don't know. I wouldn't pay

01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:48.119
to have a guest on here. That's like, I wouldn't

01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.359
pay to just meet and greet somebody. I don't

01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:53.140
give a fuck who you are. The lead singer of Buckcherry

01:27:53.140 --> 01:27:55.039
wanted to charge me 10 grand to have him on my

01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:58.090
show. I'm not even kidding. Jesus. What? Yeah.

01:27:58.090 --> 01:28:00.710
Wow. Yep. I've had a cash Patel wanted to charge

01:28:00.710 --> 01:28:03.170
me four grand for 15 minutes. Those are the only

01:28:03.170 --> 01:28:05.229
two people that have ever asked me for money.

01:28:05.770 --> 01:28:07.810
And listen, I've had Caroline LeVette. I've had

01:28:07.810 --> 01:28:10.390
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You know, I've interviewed

01:28:10.390 --> 01:28:12.630
Barack Obama. No one's ever asked me for a dollar.

01:28:12.689 --> 01:28:14.810
Those are the only two guys, the idiot lead singer

01:28:14.810 --> 01:28:17.609
of Buckcherry, who has like one or two songs,

01:28:17.609 --> 01:28:21.140
right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was like, are you

01:28:21.140 --> 01:28:22.979
fucking kidding me? I thought he was joking.

01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:25.479
He was serious. I'm like, are you still on the

01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:27.659
cocaine? I know that's your hit song. Oh, my

01:28:27.659 --> 01:28:31.020
God. Crazy man. That's a good song, by the way.

01:28:31.699 --> 01:28:33.539
That's one. It is a good song. Good. I'm on top

01:28:33.539 --> 01:28:35.779
of it or some shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:38.579
That's what was the other song. I love the cocaine.

01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:43.060
I love the cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:28:43.060 --> 01:28:46.000
Dirty bitch. 90 pounds. Yeah. Those are his two

01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.060
songs. And it's like, really, dude, ten thousand

01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:52.510
dollars. It's insane. Can't even get a thousand

01:28:52.510 --> 01:28:55.029
people to your show. I was gonna say, he probably

01:28:55.029 --> 01:28:57.449
wouldn't have brought one eyeball to your show.

01:28:58.329 --> 01:28:59.529
You know what I'm saying? It's not like it would

01:28:59.529 --> 01:29:01.750
have, like, all of a sudden your numbers jump.

01:29:01.949 --> 01:29:06.250
Is he even that interesting? Like, what, you

01:29:06.250 --> 01:29:09.569
know? No, I can't imagine. I can't imagine he

01:29:09.569 --> 01:29:13.489
is. I mean, if you're writing songs like that,

01:29:13.590 --> 01:29:15.189
you might be a little interesting. You might

01:29:15.189 --> 01:29:18.300
have some stories. Yeah, maybe. Talk about somebody

01:29:18.300 --> 01:29:21.779
that's done a lot of drugs. Well, thanks for

01:29:21.779 --> 01:29:24.340
having me on, by the way, guys. I really appreciate

01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:26.180
it. Good to see you guys and keep up the good

01:29:26.180 --> 01:29:29.500
work. I listen to your podcast every week, so

01:29:29.500 --> 01:29:34.520
keep up the great work. I love it. Anytime you

01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:36.460
guys are coming out to Vegas, let me know, man.

01:29:36.939 --> 01:29:43.279
Drinks on me. Yeah, let me know. Absolutely.

01:29:43.619 --> 01:29:45.199
I'll show you where all the good spots are. Are

01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.270
you single right now, Chad? Oh, absolutely. I

01:29:47.270 --> 01:29:49.750
have to ask that. Okay, then there's a lot of

01:29:49.750 --> 01:29:51.250
places that there's a lot of things you could

01:29:51.250 --> 01:29:52.630
do here and have a good time. I'll leave it at

01:29:52.630 --> 01:29:57.010
that. That's a private conversation. Okay. Beautiful.

01:29:57.510 --> 01:29:59.189
Right. Tell them where they can find Pushing

01:29:59.189 --> 01:30:02.470
the Limits, my man. Thank you. So the website's

01:30:02.470 --> 01:30:05.090
pushing the limits dot live my YouTube page,

01:30:05.149 --> 01:30:08.050
which is just short of 150 ,000 subscribers.

01:30:08.050 --> 01:30:10.989
It's grown every day. That's at PTL radio show

01:30:10.989 --> 01:30:14.739
and I am on the air in 30 minutes. And I am 30

01:30:14.739 --> 01:30:16.720
minutes from the radio station still in my apartment.

01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:22.159
So I probably should get going. It's OK. Hey,

01:30:22.220 --> 01:30:24.000
I love you guys. Thanks, Chad. Thank you. Thank

01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:25.359
you for having me on. I appreciate you guys.

01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:28.939
Take care. All right. Bye bye. For those who

01:30:28.939 --> 01:30:30.779
haven't checked it out, Pushing the Limits at

01:30:30.779 --> 01:30:32.880
PTL radio. It really is a good show. I don't

01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:34.460
get to catch it all the time because he is he

01:30:34.460 --> 01:30:37.439
is on every day, but it's a high energy show.

01:30:37.539 --> 01:30:40.319
He has people calling in. He has good guests.

01:30:40.460 --> 01:30:43.140
He has a whole super chat thing going on. So.

01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:46.760
Good show to go check out. PushingTheLimits .live

01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.239
was the website. And then on YouTube, it's at

01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:53.340
PTL Radio. The one and only Brian Shapiro, folks.

01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:55.460
I'm going to try and put that up, Bobby. I don't

01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:58.279
know if people could click that with the hashtag

01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:00.779
or if it does anything. But anyway, that's...

01:31:00.779 --> 01:31:03.760
Put up QR code again, baby. Yeah, good idea,

01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:07.819
Mr. Gracie. That's why we have Chad to direct

01:31:07.819 --> 01:31:09.500
us. You got to mention our other sponsors, too,

01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:16.010
man. Yes, sir. So that's good. Yes, sir. Let's

01:31:16.010 --> 01:31:17.649
go right here. So that's our one good fields.

01:31:17.689 --> 01:31:20.729
If you want to scan that, go there, use the code

01:31:20.729 --> 01:31:24.369
gracious to Bobby's got some limbering up the

01:31:24.369 --> 01:31:28.250
Eric Javits one real quick. This is Eric Javits

01:31:28.250 --> 01:31:30.449
and it's Eric Javits dot com. You can scan that

01:31:30.449 --> 01:31:34.229
QR code again. Coupon code the gracious to Melania

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Trump wears them. Yeah. Right. Yep. Check them

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out. Enough. Good enough for Melania. Good enough

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for you. And you guys get 20 % off of these.

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So use that coupon code. The gracious to all

01:31:45.350 --> 01:31:47.310
one word. We got some other ones in the works,

01:31:47.329 --> 01:31:49.529
but we're going to keep them silent for now.

01:31:49.609 --> 01:31:51.029
Bobby, what were you putting up there, buddy?

01:31:52.329 --> 01:31:56.170
Bobby's is this. I guess we'll talk about them,

01:31:56.210 --> 01:31:57.729
too. I don't have a picture for him, but this

01:31:57.729 --> 01:32:00.170
is all glory. They have this is another one of

01:32:00.170 --> 01:32:01.989
our sponsors. If you guys want to you guys want

01:32:01.989 --> 01:32:05.590
to click that it's all rock memorabilia. I want

01:32:05.590 --> 01:32:07.229
to get some life here on this frigging site.

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Yes, that's the key So check them out, too I

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think you guys get 15 % off with the coupon code

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the gracious, too But they got nice ass gear

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and look at the bands man Some cool ass stuff.

01:32:20.470 --> 01:32:23.390
Oh my god. I got a pee very bad Bobby You want

01:32:23.390 --> 01:32:25.069
to come on and say anything real quick, dude?

01:32:25.069 --> 01:32:28.550
It's bad. It's like I'm gonna pee my pants. What

01:32:28.550 --> 01:32:32.329
about anything? Not really. It was a good show.

01:32:32.630 --> 01:32:35.590
Just want to thank everybody Yes, sir, the one

01:32:35.590 --> 01:32:39.850
and only Bobby folks Young Bobby who's no longer

01:32:39.850 --> 01:32:41.970
that young Jamie's saying to come out to Vegas

01:32:41.970 --> 01:32:43.210
in the beginning of November I don't know if

01:32:43.210 --> 01:32:45.869
I can come beginning of November. Maybe if I

01:32:45.869 --> 01:32:49.770
can I'll hit you on Facebook beginning of November

01:32:49.770 --> 01:32:55.750
I'll be there You be there But bump bump bump

01:32:55.750 --> 01:32:57.909
Chad come out beginning of November cool Saturn

01:32:57.909 --> 01:32:59.590
hat. I don't know what that is. Did they have

01:32:59.590 --> 01:33:02.409
a hat by Saturn anyway? Check them out, ericjabbits

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.com and shop .getgoodfeels .com. Use those coupon

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01:33:10.609 --> 01:33:13.029
do need to get some Eric Jabbits hats. They have

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mail stuff there, so I got to really go on and

01:33:15.350 --> 01:33:18.229
check that out and get that going. Gracious audience,

01:33:18.350 --> 01:33:21.409
we love you. Another gracious Tuesday. Gotta

01:33:21.409 --> 01:33:23.949
pee. Peace, everyone. Remember to like, subscribe,

01:33:23.970 --> 01:33:28.029
and follow. Damn it. Yes. No, it's on there.

01:33:28.029 --> 01:33:31.220
They can hear it. All right. Yeah, we can go

01:33:31.220 --> 01:33:32.520
back so they can see us bigger, but yeah, they

01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:36.779
can see us when we go to black screen just. Can't

01:33:36.779 --> 01:33:38.659
it doesn't shut off the mics or anything, but

01:33:38.659 --> 01:33:41.699
yeah, please like, subscribe, share, follow.

01:33:42.100 --> 01:33:44.899
We're back. All that stuff. Share folks sharing

01:33:44.899 --> 01:33:48.460
is sharing is caring. That's right, baby. If

01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:50.819
you listen to the show, let people know. Oh,

01:33:50.819 --> 01:33:55.420
I'm a poet. Wow, I got a piece. Peace out later.