Why Exposure to New Cultures Makes Your Faith Stronger | Craig D. Forrest, Filmmaker

Craig D. Forrest (00:00)
I've done five, six, seven shoots on on voodoo, sorcery,

persecuted churches and Christians.

in the course of four years I hit thirty-two countries.

And and such. And I almost never get called by Christian TV stations to talk about that, to have me on the air, to sit down and say, what was that like? No, you know what? They don't care. The Christian

groups over and over again kept saying, I only want to know about the five keys to overc uh overcoming successful ministry.

Well, I'm not gonna I don't know the five keys to overcoming successful ministry, but I can tell you what it's like to be in the den of hell

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (00:48)
Craig D. Forrest, welcome to the God and Gig Show. How are you, my friend?

Craig D. Forrest (00:53)
Hi, Alan. You know, thank you. it's great to be here and be on your podcast, and let's have a great time. I'm I'm sure we're gonna have a great conversation.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (01:01)
So if someone's meeting you in a coffee shop for the first time, what are the first two or three that things that you want them to know about you upon that first meeting?

Craig D. Forrest (01:10)
Hey, wow, that's a great question. I I would say over a cup of coffee to someone I'm meeting for the first time, I'm Craig. I've been blessed and privileged that God has sent me all over the world to you know over a hundred countries. And I was allowed, He allowed me, to use my skills that He gave me and my talents to tell great stories.

both fiction and non mostly non-fiction of people's lives that have been changed or or places of need, you know, poverty and war, uh famine,

I have been privileged to see the world and capture stories. And I didn't know I was gonna start out that way, but after all these decades, that

that God has brought me on this journey, and He's never failed me, and He's not gonna fail me now.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (02:04)
What was your entry into actual industry and making movies and you know working with other clients and things like that was it working for someone, was it starting your own company? Like what was your entry?

Craig D. Forrest (02:14)
Yeah,

I was just about to turn 21, and a wonderful man named Jim Pickens, I was coming out of Bible college, Christian college.

And he said, You really, you really want to do television, don't you? I go, Yeah. Said, I know somebody at INS the Inspiration Network in Charlotte, North Carolina, named Roger. He's the vice president of production. Would you want to do an internship if I make a call to him? And remember, to everyone out there that's listening, the first answer is yes. In your 20s, always say yes until you get in your 30s.

In your 20s, 99 times out of 100, say yes, because that yes gets you a job and gets you experience ah that you can add to, you can learn from. And from there, uh it may lead you to your next job. So I said yes, and three or four weeks later, I found myself after graduation in Charlotte, North Carolina, on an internship on a Monday. It was a June 20th.

I still remember. And on Tuesday, June 21st, that same man, Roger, the one who said, yeah, send Craig out here, walked in and said, I've got a job for a telethon writer. Would you like to be a telethon writer? And I said, Yes. I'd

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (03:40)
Yeah.

Craig D. Forrest (03:40)
never I had never written a telethon in my life. And you know what? He never asked me to. I started doing network promos at age 21, writing them.

And about a month into it, they said, We need another producer. You want to be a producer? Yes. I just kept saying yes. Say say yes to just virtually anything when you're starting out, especially when you're starting out. And later on when you get good at something and it doesn't quite seem right, there comes a time where you're able to say no. That's another that's another conversation for another another time. So that was my start. I started in a a Christian.

TV network doing promos. They had to be 59 seconds long, exactly 59. It was all done on videotape back then. And it had to fit that 59 second slot network ah in, gosh, over 200 markets. And

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (04:39)
Wow.

Craig D. Forrest (04:40)
I'm only 21 years of age. Boy, God just opened a door and said, walk through this one, and I did.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (04:47)
That's incredible.

I am curious because all these years later, you've traveled all over the world. So

Craig D. Forrest (04:53)
Yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (04:54)
I wanna kinda get into that same thing of what was the yes that brought you into, you know, worldwide journalism, into covering these stories all over the world. Because if they've read the bio and they've kind of checked out out your resume, as you've said, now they see that you literally have traveled

I can't think of a continent that you haven't been on, according to that.

Craig D. Forrest (05:14)
The the only

continent only continent Alan is Antarctica and it takes a lot of work to get there and I'm not a scientist, which is your number one way to get there. There are tours that go there, but that's that's the only place, uh, and such.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (05:28)
That's incredible. So yes,

what was the what was the yes that brought you into again being being being able to now tell stories and and work out your calling um again in these incredible international destinations and these uh sometimes very, very, very different cultures than what you were used to.

Craig D. Forrest (05:45)
Yeah, that's a f that's a fun story for me. I write I write about it in my travel memoir, Night Train to Cairo. Night Train to Cairo. I was sixteen, I was in high school, this is before college, high school down in San Diego, and my mom shows up uh at my science class looking through the little glass frame, the little window in the door where, you know, the principal can look in or another teacher. And I everyone's

Hey, there's somebody at the door in the little window. Uh, and I call that chapter the woman the woman in the window. And it was my mom. And I'm thinking, what is my mom doing in science class? And she never came to high school. I mean, once a year to, you know, for some event or such. What's she doing? And and she walked in and she goes, Where's Craig? I need to talk to him. And he's over there. Craig. And I said, Walk over. And uh

She says, I need to talk to you. Okay, so I walk, we walk out out into the uh the corridor there, the hallway, uh, and they go back doing the class stuff, science. I go, what's going on? She goes, we were gonna do this. My mom and dad were pastors, and every couple of years they would do a Bible lands tour, you know, Israel, Egypt, you know, steps of Paul in Greece, that kind of thing. And um, I said, What do you listen? Yesterday a Japanese

Terrorist group shot up the Tel Aviv airport. This is 1972. That was a bad year. 1972 was a uh bad, tough year for uh Israeli athletic athletes were all killed by the PLO.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (07:27)
Right.

Craig D. Forrest (07:28)
All that stuff. That was a couple months after this. Olympics. And she said, We just had somebody, an older lady, that bowed out, that canceled.

being on the Bible lands trip. We need 15 people for the family to have three um free trips, you know? Mom, dad, my brother. I was gonna stay home. And now we're at 14. We're gonna pay for you to come back and be the 15th because she she bowed out. And you're gonna go with us and you're gonna room with Paul, my older brother, on this trip.

And um we need to leave right now and get you passport photos. And tomorrow morning, 7 a.m., we are driving to LA and get you an emergency, well, not emergency, but the quickest passport you could get, like it was within 24 or 48 hours. I said, okay. So I walked back and said, My mom wants me, I gotta go. And the teacher said, Go. And all these chain of events started to happen, you know, little dominoes.

That fell and three, I had to get visas, had to get shots, yellow fever, you know, pol no, I already had polio, but dip diphtheria, small smallpox, and all of this in order to get your visa. And uh in about two, three weeks, I was on a plane to to um Athens, Greece. And I was supposed to stay stay home for a month, you know, because I was g 16, I stay home. And uh

Cairo, excuse me, um, Athens, Cairo, Luxor, and Luxor, we took the night train to Cairo back, back from Luxor because the plane was too small for four of us to go back, and that's where I get night train to Cairo. I was literally on a night train to Cairo. uh Straight to the airport, fly to Damascus, fly to Baghdad, Baghdad, back over to Beirut, over to Damascus by bus, Cyprus.

Israel, Italy, London, Holland, home in about 21 days. And out of that, I thought, you know, this international I'd never been other than Canada and Mexico. I had never been out of America. And I thought, Alan, this is kind of cool. I like this. This is an adventure. This is an exploration. And so in my twenties, I went and worked for a Christian college as an assistant missionary in Brussels. And I go,

Yeah, I like this travel thing. And then I worked for World Vision, the big humanitarian group, when I was about 27 or 28. And they sent me all over the world to shoot documentaries. So from that, the more I shot overseas, the more I got a reputation for being the overseas guy, the international guy. And at age 30, I started my own little production company.

Back then it was called verite, verite meaning truth. It's a French word. Basically truth productions. Okay. But there was a style of cinema that's still around called cinema verite. And you just shoot you shoot things without much editing, you shoot it wild. What you see from the camera is what really happened. Long takes and such. That's that's a film s film course thing. And so I in the course of four years I hit thirty-two countries.

And then in my late 30s, I made the segue to Discovery Channel. I I once I did a couple of shoots for Discovery Channel. Now I had secular experience, not humanitarian or Christian experience. And the phone started ringing. Because all of these groups needed overseas footage back then and and to have story shot. Can you go to Nairobi? What would that cost? On your around the world trip, can you stop in Morocco?

For three or four days and shoot this or shoot that. And again I said yes. Now, if the budget was too small, just let's get back to this no thing. If the budget

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (11:42)
Yeah.

Craig D. Forrest (11:44)
was just not gonna work, I would say no. Unless it was just a little bit under my cost and I had to pay the extra. And that's called a loss leader. I will do it at a loss in finances if it will get me more work, because now I have something.

that I can show to other potential clients. It's called a loss leader. I'm willing to lose

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (12:05)
Sure, it's an investment.

Craig D. Forrest (12:06)
a little money on this. And this is really the gigs thing.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (12:10)
Right.

Craig D. Forrest (12:11)
I'm willing to lose a little bit of money on this, and this is money coming out of my pocket on a trip. But if it gets me in good with the client, like I will do this for you, I'm gonna lose a little money, but please don't forget me.

And such or it's a it's a a project that looks really good for my director's reel. And that will get me more work. Then every now and then I would do a loss later, but not a lot. Normally I need to at least break even and you gotta make something to keep the lights on at home.

This is not in a book.

You need to pile up experiences that don't come from a book.

Books are great. Books are absolutely wonderful. But what I was learning was not in a book. Later on, I wrote a book called Commando Tactics for Digital Filmmakers. Commando Tactics for Digital Filmmakers. And I talked about the things you need to learn, not only to shoot good documentaries and TV, but also how to succeed and survive uh shooting overseas.

What is the skills necessary? Thinking on your feet, decision making, have a plan, uh, have a shot list, all these different things so that you don't go in. You don't wanna be a soldier without any without a gun and without any bullets in your gun. That's a soldier

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (13:33)
Yeah.

Craig D. Forrest (13:34)
that's gonna get shot or killed. You don't wanna be that person. And so I learned these skills. And the more I did overseas, Alan.

The more I got called for that.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (13:45)
I want to touch on that in terms of your interaction with so many different cultures, especially as a Christian, especially having a certain cultural basis of American and whatever, you know, your background. And then you're literally thrown over and over into a brand new culture or brand new people or brand new way of doing things. And most likely, again, in many of these places.

an outside of Christianity. So I'm wondering what how did that faith how did that connection with so many different cultures influence your faith and your storytelling? Because I'm sure in both cases you have to learn to connect with people that you're not familiar with and you have to be able to tell their story while they trust you. So how did that

Craig D. Forrest (14:28)
Yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (14:28)
work for you?

Craig D. Forrest (14:29)
Yeah. I would say to all the Christians, uh, and I would also say this for someone that doesn't have a faith, but especially for Christians. First of all, for for whether it was Christian or whether it was secular, I always came in as a prepared professional. Prepared professional.

And as much as I could, I would try to put the ego aside and the arrogance aside because many times I was working with I was working for bosses that were 10 or 20 years younger than I was, telling me what to do. And they were clueless. But they were the producer, and I was the director, cameraman, or whatever that might be, or even executive producer. And there was ego all over the place.

I think it's important, and I'll get to the spiritual side in in a moment.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (15:21)
Sure.

Craig D. Forrest (15:21)
I'm not going to forget that thread. I'm not, because that's important. I think on the spiritual side of things, that excuse me, on the professional side, that people love to work with with hopefully a person like me that comes in professional, but is also a lot of fun to work with. I think having a fun personality, when it's time to work, work.

But you should also, whenever possible, have a smile on your face. Because you this has happened many times. I work with secular people, and I'm the only Christian they know. And it's up to me to have the spirit of the Holy Spirit inside of me. Uh that's that's uh that they can they can witness, they can feel, they can see. He's a great guy. He doesn't curse.

He doesn't tell bad stories or use bad bad language cursing and such. He's a lot of fun. I think I'd like to work with him again. Okay. Now the spiritual, just be fun to work with. Uh, and and number two, the spiritual side. I've done so many shoots, Alan, on voodoo, sorcery. I've done five, six, seven shoots on on voodoo, sorcery, uh

And and such. And I almost never get called by Christian TV stations to talk about that, to have me on the air, to sit down and say, what was that like? What was the you know, Haiti, demonic? No, you know what? They don't care. The Christian

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (16:58)
Hmm.

Craig D. Forrest (16:58)
groups over and over again kept saying, I only want to know about the five keys to overc uh overcoming successful ministry.

Well, I'm not gonna I don't know the five keys to overcoming successful ministry, but I can tell you what it's like to be in the den of hell in Port au Prince, Haiti, with people around me with literally with voodoo drums, literally going on at eleven thirty at night, and people who's uh who are d demonically possessed. And I'm gonna tell you

I prayed uh people have asked me about this. I said before I walked into that, it was a secular shoot. Uh Emmy nominated project for A, Arts and Entertainment Network. And then it w it got repackaged to History Channel at that point. And then it got repackaged to CBS. Eye on something. I saw it on TV once ago, hey, that's my footage, that's my story. CBS. I I guess I work for CBS now, right? But I'm gonna tell you.

This is more it's these experiences stretch my life and push my life like clay, like wet, moist clay where the potter of Jesus Christ kept molding me and molding me in every chute and every place I went where I came into uh interaction with uh with spirits and and and such. My I I've done shoots on Buddhism.

Communism, Hinduism, lots of shoots on Islam and such. The more shoots I did on that, Alan, and for everyone else that's listening, the more that Jesus Christ became real as Savior and Lord. There is one way to God. Jesus Christ said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to my Father except through me. I'm the door.

And the more shoots I did, the more I embraced the Lord and said, You are. I've seen all these other ways, uh, you know, yoga mats and everything else. May I tell you, Lord, you're in Scripture and you're real in my heart, and you are real sitting next to the Father in heaven, in his throne room, and I believe in you. And the more I did shoots on all these different different spiritual beliefs.

Some of them Christian, you know, to tell those stories of what it's like in the world, missionary stories,

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (19:38)
Right.

Craig D. Forrest (19:39)
humanitarian stories, educational, and also secular, where I had to be a Christian and not talk about it. That shoot I did in Haiti, they were just so into demon possession, and I couldn't say, Do you know Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord? I'd be fired. I'd never get a call again. But I did ask once in an interview, uh, what do you

Do you believe in Jesus? And the high priestess lady, she goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a good prophet. But I couldn't say, yeah, he's more than a prophet. But I I had to I had to be under the radar, but still be

on the radar, if that makes sense.

And I'm trying to bless people with this, that you're gonna

go through difficult times. Difficult times. Christian media can be just as difficult uh as secular media. Faith-based media can have just as much ego and arrogance. Because people are people. People are people. uh And just keep a good prayer life. Keep in your scripture. Find a little clutch, a little group of dear friends.

Two, three, whatever, that you can depend on to have a coffee and a prayer time. Find a good church that you can say, that's my church, that's my pastor, this is my fellowship. Don't try to be the lone ranger. It's the lone animal at the back of the herd that gets eaten by the lions.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (21:13)
that's so powerful to me because again, you're now traveling all over the world and having award winning work.

Your resume speaks for you, but then your faith can speak for you as well when the opportunity comes. So that's huge

Craig D. Forrest (21:24)
Yeah. Yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (21:26)
to me, but I want to make sure we pivot right there to you mentioned the community, being able to stay connected. That has to also connect with obviously family as well, right? Your church family, your natural family. So what was the core that kept you together as you were traveling all over the world? Was it your family? Were you able to integrate your family with your work? Because

That had to be a strain as well to be able to keep that, you know, central part of your life together when you have so many other experiences and uh responsibilities.

Craig D. Forrest (21:56)
Yeah, that's a great question, Alan. I I will tell you that I was married before for um about ten years and did lots of travel and I was away from the kids. My kids, my son Andrew and my my daughter Annie, uh who are, you know, uh adults now. One is 41 and one is about to turn 35. So uh, you know, you can have an adult conversation with them without a problem. Um and then I was a single f uh I went through a a divorce.

And I was single for eleven years trying to find, you know.

Is there somebody out there that I can love and they can love me? And God answered my prayers through my wonderful wife Rebecca. And we've been married almost 23 years now. So, but in that gap, all I did was just travel, travel, travel. And again, to everyone out there, I had a church home that I could go to. But I was a guy that people couldn't understand. He was in Los Angeles, it was very Hollywood church, where actors and actresses that all wanted to, you know.

Know,

become movie stars and such. And to me, they had great motives, but then they'd look at me like, what do you do? I travel overseas, I shoot stories, work with clients. that's cool. You know, I'm up for a new part right now. I just had it on going, wow, nobody even asked me a question about what I see and where where I go. oh

Maybe it's LA, maybe it's the industry, that people become very, very self-involved and such. But I had a good church. I'd go on Sundays, Wednesday nights when I could for Bible study if I could possibly do it. ah But then I'd be gone for three weeks on the back side of the world. So I had a small group of friends that we could go out, have dinner, talk, talk, or after church, let's all go out for lunch.

But those were my friends, and I didn't get to see them as much. I will say something a little different. I racked up so many frequent flyer points on United Airlines, like hundreds of thousands, like 200,000 miles a year kind of stuff, that I always splurged those miles on either Andrew or Annie on a trip with dad.

And you know, for both Andrew and Annie, I took them on separate trips to London and Paris, where they had two weeks with dad. And that would be an absolute they had dad all to themselves. They were safe. I knew where to go. I knew the hotel. Let's go find a new restaurant. Where do you want to go? Hey, Annie, let's let's go to the little store literally across the street from our hotel. I know right where it is on Rue de Carme.

You you pick out and say you pick out Annie what we're gonna have for lunch today. And she's eight years old. And she'd pick out we're gonna have baguette bread, we're gonna have this, we're gonna have that, and I'd let her as a kid pick out a picnic lunch for us, and we would go to the local to one of the Paris

parks and sit and she had dad all herself as did Andrew and I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. It it if you can have a park, you can have just as much fun as a park in your hometown or go to the mountains or go to the beach. And in my case it was a park in Paris. But it didn't really matter that it was Paris. Andrew or Annie had dad.

complete attention of debt. And uh I'll I'll never trade those moments for the rest of my life.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (25:50)
So beautiful. Again, because the key is that what is what's uh the Bible says obviously what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? And you could literally add

Craig D. Forrest (25:57)
Oh, yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (25:59)
family behind that, right? What doesn't profit

Craig D. Forrest (26:01)
Yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (26:01)
you to go all over the world and not have those experiences with your children

Craig D. Forrest (26:04)
Right.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (26:05)
and now with your wife, where you can say, Hey, I've built something and I've had wonderful experiences, but we share them. And I want to make sure that we also remind people that

you have uh I think now pivoted even to you've also been a ri a writer this entire time. You've been an award-winning filmmaker and documentary maker,

Craig D. Forrest (26:23)
Yeah.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (26:24)
but you also have books and I do believe as of what recording, you even have a children's book that is being produced and coming out. And yes,

Craig D. Forrest (26:29)
Oh, you you are pretty smart. You've been to my website. You know this.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (26:33)
been paying attention, but this is why it's so important to me that people hear all of the story

because again, I love how that what you just mentioned about family seems to be something that you want to share that comes out of either this book or wherever it is. So tell talk a little bit about the motivation behind writing a children's book with all your experiences.

Craig D. Forrest (26:49)
Yeah. Um, okay.

uh I decided in 2002 I wanted to write a children's book called Bugsy about a bug that somehow got into an airplane and would fly across the world uh and experience Africa and Asia and all that.

And then recently, uh I think December or January of this year, I created a better Bugsy than my original thought of 2002, in the cutest little brave butterfly you can imagine. And so I created a 48-page Bugsy Flies to Paris and meets friends. He has friends in the garden, Daisy, Uncle Wally.

Major Hawthorne takes him in a little backpack across the ocean to Paris. He meets Henri and Louise and all his friends and and such. And if you want to see a little glimmer of it out there, people, folks, everyone, go to Craig Forest dot com, Craig Forrest, to Rs, F-O-R-R-E-S-T, Craig Forrest.com, and then click on the link, Bugsy Brave Butterfly. I'm pretty sure Alan, you've been there. Yeah.

And you click on

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (28:05)
Absolutely.

Craig D. Forrest (28:05)
it and you'll see all of Bugsy's friends, you'll see Bugsy, and you'll see all the layouts. There's you know 20, 24 scenes, I think it is, and 48 pages. And then all the places that Bugsy is gonna go in the future. I already have London, Italy, Spain, South America, Africa, India, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Scandinavia, and Ireland, Scotland.

already mapped out. And I have one, Bugsy's Holy Land Adventure or Expedition where he goes to Israel and Cairo. Uh now that one's way down the line, but I thought I would really like to see that as a Jewish Judeo Christian book for kids that want to know about the Wailing Wall and about the Temple Mount and all that. So that's that's percolating in in my brain. So I and here's the thing folks.

I used downtime when I wasn't busy as creative time. I can sit either sit around. This is good for any occupation.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (29:16)
A hundred percent.

Craig D. Forrest (29:17)
Yeah, yeah, I we agree. You have some dead time, some downtime. I've got a week here, I've got a weekend where I'm not doing anything. Write, find a project you really want to do. And in my case, it's writing books. And uh this is my fifth book.

And uh I I've got it out to a lot of people, 182 submissions, and I've had over a hundred rejections. So pray, pray, pray. Somebody falls in love with Bugsy and says, I want to be the agent for Bugsy. Let's let's talk. How do we do it? So that's that's

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (29:54)
Awesome.

Craig D. Forrest (29:54)
that's what I'm praying for. Bugsy the brave butterfly, Bugsy flies to Paris.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (29:59)
they do need to follow you at your website, I believe it is in the show notes, Craig Forest with two tees dot com. That's awesome. That is in the sh

Craig D. Forrest (30:05)
dot com. Yeah. And then my my

my cr my Christian one is matchstickmedia.org. Matchstick. Matchstickmedia,

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (30:12)
Oh good, I didn't oh I'm glad. Okay.

Craig D. Forrest (30:14)
that's for my teaching and such for Christian

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (30:16)
Got it.

Craig D. Forrest (30:17)
work. Matchstick, like a striking a match. Matchstickmedia.org.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (30:19)
Love it.

go ahead, please. last reason? Please.

Craig D. Forrest (30:22)
Can I give one last piece of advice?

Someone gave this to me, a good good friend named Clyde. I said, Do you have three people advice? He says, I'll give you three. Find out what you're really good at. Find out what you're really good at. Do it for a very long time. Number three, teach others.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (30:51)
it makes so much sense and it's such a blessing that again you're still pouring into the world and blessing people. So we have we'll have

Craig D. Forrest (30:55)
Amen. Amen.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (30:57)
both of those links in the show notes. But Craig, this has been a blessing. I'm inspired, I'm encouraged, I'm sure every single

Craig D. Forrest (31:02)
thank you.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (31:02)
listener and and watcher is as well. So thank you once again for being a part of the God

and gig show.

Craig D. Forrest (31:08)
you

bet everyone out there.

Jesus is the real, is real, and he's

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (31:13)
Amen.

Craig D. Forrest (31:14)
coming soon. So m we he's coming soon. And we must work the work of him who has called us because nighttime is coming, and the harvest during the daytime is now.

Allen C. Paul | Founder, God and Gigs (31:27)
Amen. God bless you, Craig. Thank you so much.