July 4, 2025
The Purpose of His Presence
Send us a text Have we been seeking God's blessings instead of God Himself? This profound question cuts to the heart of why many Christians struggle to impact those around them. Tommy Tenney's "The God Chaser" challenges us to examine what truly draws people to faith. It's not our programs, strategies, or even our words - it's the unmistakable presence of God that lingers on us after genuine encounter. When we carry this "divine radiation zone," people sense something different without expla...
Have we been seeking God's blessings instead of God Himself? This profound question cuts to the heart of why many Christians struggle to impact those around them.
Tommy Tenney's "The God Chaser" challenges us to examine what truly draws people to faith. It's not our programs, strategies, or even our words - it's the unmistakable presence of God that lingers on us after genuine encounter. When we carry this "divine radiation zone," people sense something different without explanation.
The concept of presence evangelism represents a radical shift from traditional approaches. Rather than merely sharing information about God, what if we carried such an atmosphere of His presence that demons fled, healing happened, and conviction fell simply because we walked into a room? This isn't hyperbole - it's precisely what happened throughout scripture and church history when individuals prioritized intimate communion with God above everything else.
A sobering reality confronts American Christianity today. While convenience stores remain open 24/7 to meet physical needs, most churches operate only two hours weekly while claiming to offer the Bread of Life. Not one of the world's 50 largest churches is in America, despite our centuries of missionary endeavors. The issue isn't that people lack hunger for spiritual reality - it's that we've offered stale religious experience instead of fresh bread from heaven.
The pathway forward requires brokenness and genuine repentance. There are no shortcuts to revival. God's glory manifests when His people weep between the porch and the altar, crying out for mercy. Only then will strangers approach us in stores, restaurants, and public spaces, drawn irresistibly to the presence we carry.
Are you hungry simply for God's blessings, or for God Himself? This distinction makes all the difference. When we seek His face rather than His hand, we discover the true purpose of His presence - not just personal fulfillment, but transformation that ripples outward to a world desperate for authentic encounter.
What would your life look like if you pursued God with such intensity that no one could be near you without meeting Him?
00:00 - Welcome to the Christian Cafe
09:38 - Book Introduction: The God Chaser
16:18 - The Purpose of His Presence
26:12 - Seeking God vs. Seeking Blessings
34:31 - America's Hunger for Fresh Bread
41:08 - Prayer and Final Thoughts
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Hello, this is your host, glenn Kivett, and welcome to today's episode of the Christian Cafe, where the bread is made fresh and delivered right from the Word of God.
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Feel free to email me with your prayer request at thechristiancafe2022 at gmailcom.
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I would love to hear from you.
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So drive me a seat, place your order and we will deliver it fresh and hot, just for you.
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Welcome everybody.
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Welcome to the Christian Cafe.
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Come right on in, have yourself a seat and let's enjoy this time we have together Just to sit down and talk about the Word of God and talk about what he has done for us and what he can do and, most of all, what he is going to do Amen.
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It's good to be back with you, back talking to you again about this fabulous book that we've been going through and I hope that you have enjoyed it thus far, been getting a lot of reactions, a lot of downloads on it, and I'm just thankful that god is reaching you in a place where you're at once.
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He reveals something to us then we must walk into, and I hope he's been opening up the doors through this book and showing you things that you may never seen.
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As I said earlier, I have read this book several times.
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I think this is my fourth time going through it and each time I get something different out of it, because it's just such an enriching book and Pastor Tommy Tenney done a wonderful job talking about his experience going through this time of his life, this season that he went through.
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It changed his life and I hope that's what this book is doing to you, but again, welcome to the Christian Cafe.
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It's been a while.
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A lot of things have been taking place.
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A lot of things have taken place, but God is good and he's helped us through them all.
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We're going through a season in our life where things just seem to be an uproar, but God is making us stronger, he's helping us through it.
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My wife is getting ready to have surgery in a few days on her back, and that's another thing that we're asking God and still believing God is going to perform a miraculous healing.
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God, we still believe that he does what his word says and he does.
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And if she has to go through the surgery, that's all fine and well too.
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He's still going to heal her one way or the other.
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But I'm still believing for God to touch her without it.
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You know, just because it's a few days left doesn't mean he can't do it before the very moment.
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It's just who God is.
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It's in his time and that's what I've accepted, and we're just praying for her speedy recovery.
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So I ask that you help me pray for her, call her out before God in your prayer time that God will just be with her and just give her strength.
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Just so many things going on in this world and things going around, as we need God more today than we ever did, and I trust that you are seeking him for the path that he wants you to take, not a path of what man wants you to do, but what God wants to do in your life.
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But I'm just thankful for what he's doing.
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It's been some pretty weather.
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We've had some rain here in North Carolina.
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Today is sun shining here on the 4th of July.
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Today is Independence Day, and I'm thankful for our soldiers who gave their life so that I could have independence, that I could have freedom.
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I served in the US Navy, independence, that I can have freedom.
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I served in the US Navy, and so I am honored to say that I helped Father with our freedom in this country, and all those that have served that listen to the podcast.
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I want to thank you for your service.
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Thank you for the sacrifice you've given for our country.
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Well, we're going to get back into the book today and before we do, I just want to say that if you have a prayer request or a need or whatever you would like for me to pray, please drop me an email.
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My email is thechristiancafe2022 at gmailcom.
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I check my email daily and if I have a prayer request, I pray for them.
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So if you have anything that you would like have a prayer request, I pray for them.
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So if you have anything that you would like me to pray about, just let me know.
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I'd be more than happy to help you pray.
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And if you would like to have a copy of this book I trust that you also email me Let me know.
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I will send you a copy of this book free of charge.
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It won't cost you a dime.
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I know we've been going through it.
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You can go back and listen to the podcast, but it's good to have something in hand Once in a while you can take notes on.
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And speaking of that, I have another book that I would like to talk about here shortly before we take a break and get back into our book.
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I have a pastor friend.
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He pastors a church in Sevierville, tennessee Excuse me the Lift Church.
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His name is Pastor Keith Nix and he just published a book and went out and I have read it and it's a marvelous book and it's called Losing Jesus in Church.
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If you ever lost something, then it's always at the last place you left it.
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I can guarantee you that, and I think sometimes we did as uh jesus's parents did we went off and we forgot jesus, and that's exactly what he talks about that in his book and it's just a marvelous book.
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And, who knows, I might uh do that as a, um, a podcast uh later in the future, but, um, I don't know.
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But if like to have a copy of that book also I have several copies left I'll be glad to send you one free of charge and you can add it to your collection.
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Let's take a break and we'll get back here shortly and begin in our book, okay?
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I could climb the highest peak, could dive the deepest sea.
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Highest peak, kodaina, deepest sea.
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I can't fail, cause you're watching over me.
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I could walk on.
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Burning cold need a fight?
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Freezing cold ever hurts me.
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Burning cold need a final freezing cold ever hurts me.
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Since the day you saved my soul, I am strong cause.
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I know I've got you on my side and my faith is a burning flame.
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And as long as I know I have you on my side, all my enemies will fail.
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In your name, I shall prevail.
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You speak and I heed the call.
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By your might, all my foes will fall.
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I'm a soldier, a soldier for your love.
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Oh Holy Father, son, your kingdom, I know, will come.
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Oh, jesus, I sing your name in praise.
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Oh, I'm strong because I know I've got you on my side and my faith is a burning flame.
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And as long as I know I have you on my side, all my enemies will fade.
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I am strong cause.
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I know I've got you on my side and my faith is a burning flame.
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And as long as I know I have you on my side, all my enemies will fail.
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In your name, I shall prevail.
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Alright, are you ready?
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Free me Back in chapter 8, the purpose of his presence, the divine radiation zones, presence, evangelism.
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I hope you will get something out of this.
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This is a great chapter.
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I'm telling you what it's going to make you cringe, make you think.
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It's probably going to make you repent a little bit too.
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I know it did me Every time I read it.
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It does Because we're not perfect, right, we still have a long way to go.
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There's still some things we can learn and grow closer to God in, and that's what this book tends to do Get us to think about what we can do to be closer to be a God chaser, and that's what this book is entitled.
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And I hope that you're seeing some things as we go through this book about what else we can do.
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So let's get right on into it.
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Okay, time and again, we ask one another why can't I win my friends to the Lord?
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Why is it that my family members just don't seem interested in God?
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The answer may shock you in its bluntness, but the truth often hurts.
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The reason people who know you aren't interested in your God may be because you don't have enough of the presence of God in your life.
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I told you, you see, right off the bat, it's going to make you mad.
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There is something about God's presence that makes everything else crumble in comparison.
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Without it, you will be just as pale and lifeless as everybody else around you, no matter what you do.
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Without his presence you will be just another somebody to those around you.
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I don't know about you, but I am tired of just being another somebody to the lost around me.
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I have made a decision.
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I made up my mind and set my heart to declare I am going to pursue the presence of God in my life.
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I am going to get so close to God that when I walk into secular and public places, people will meet him.
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They may not know that I'm there, but they will definitely know that he is there, but they will definitely know that he is there.
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I want to be so saturated with God's presence that when I take a seat on a plane, everyone near me will suddenly feel uncomfortable if they're not right with God, even though I haven't said a word.
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I'm not wanting to condemn or to convict them.
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I just want to carry the fragrance of my Father with me.
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We understand program evangelism, where we knock on doors or pass out tracts or some other program of the church designed to reach the lost.
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John Wimber helped us to understand power evangelism, where we mix anointing with the program.
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In this form of evangelism we might pray for someone to be healed on the street instead of just witnessing or giving out tracts.
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But there is a little understood, much underused form of evangelism that I call present evangelism.
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This is where people take note, saying they have been with Jesus, see Acts 4.13.
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This is when the residue of God on a person creates a divine radiation zone of the manifest presence of God, so much so that it affects those around you.
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Shadow healing would fall into this category.
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Only it wasn't Peter's shadow that healed anyone.
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It was the shadow of who Peter walked with that created a zone, a healing zone or a demon-free zone.
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The Hebrews believed that the anointing would extend as far as your shadow reached.
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I believe that the glory will extend as far as his shadow reaches.
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Cover the earth, lord.
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The gospel of mark tells us that immediately after jesus astounded his disciples by rebuking the sea and the wind during a great storm, they landed in the country of getterans.
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This is in mark 4, verses 35 and 5, verses chapter 1, 5 and 1.
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Something happened that day that I pray will happen in our day.
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When the sole of Jesus' foot touched the sandy shore of Gadara, one half mile distance, a man possessed of 5,000 demons suddenly was freed from their choking grasp for the first time.
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Demons suddenly was freed from their choking grass for the first time.
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Why?
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How do you know?
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Well, mark tells us that when the demonized man saw Jesus, he ran to worship him.
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Up until that precise moment, the demons had told him where to go and what to do.
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At every other instance, he had no control over his own actions, even when the demons commanded him to cut himself.
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So what changed all that?
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What happened?
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In a moment that rested that man's mind and physical functions out of the control of 5,000 controlling demon spirits.
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I'll tell you what happened Father stepped back in the house.
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That is what we need today.
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We need to hear the footfall of God as the sole of his foot touches earth just one time.
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When that happens, we won't have to worry about telling little demons to run.
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We won't even have to scream scriptures against their prince or practice pulling down demonic strongholds.
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The purpose of his manifest presence is to set the captive free, to fulfill Luke 4, 18.
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He wants to finish what he was able, unable to start in Nazareth, when he said this day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears, lord.
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We want to see you.
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We are tired of just talking about you like Sunday school children.
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When are you going to show up, lord?
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I pray that Isaiah, chapter 6 visitation, will come to churches in the cities, because all it took is one footstep of Almighty God in a city to break the chains of decades and centuries of demonic dominion.
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I pray that we can say with the prophet Isaiah I've seen the Lord.
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I'm praying for a corporate breakthrough in the church, but first I pray that God gives each of us an individual breakthrough in our lives.
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Lord, we are not just coming to you to get a blessing.
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We seek the blesser.
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We need a breakthrough.
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I must warn you that sometimes you will be broken to get a breakthrough.
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It's just the way it happens.
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I encourage you to linger and soak in the presence of the Lord at every opportunity when you draw near to him.
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Don't hurry and don't rush.
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Realize that this is, or should be, at the top of our priority list.
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Let God do a deep work in your heart and life.
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This is the way God creates a deep board well in your life that will become an artesian well of power and glory in his presence.
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The purpose of his presence is to bring deliverance to the captives and victory to the children.
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Nothing stops a fight like daddy coming to town.
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For centuries we have been fighting spiritual battles with Satan and the bad kids from his neighborhood using bold words and sometimes sticks and stones, but it is time for us to cry out to our Father and watch our neighborhood battles take a totally new turn.
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I tell you with every ounce of faith in my being that if the Father of us all can step down and allow his manifest presence to touch earth just once, if even one tiny tear from his eye can fall in a city like Los Angeles, new York or Chicago, north Carolina or wherever city you're in, then the flood of glory it will spawn will bring revival throughout the land as demons flee and sinners fall to their knees.
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Jesus, help us.
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Come.
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Father, abba, father, daddy, we need you.
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The bottom line is this If you are really hungry to see Daddy come on the scene, then you have to understand that you must stop seeking his benefits and quit asking for him to do this or do that?
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We have managed to turn what we erroneously call church into a big bless me club when we sign up for the blessings and that blessing, I'm not so sure that we need to seek blessings anymore.
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That's what the israelites did in all of the centuries after they ran from the face of god.
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We need to seek brokenness and repentance and say, by our actions as well as our words, god, we want you, we don't care if you do anything or not.
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We are crawling up on the altar.
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Let your fire of cleansing fall so we can finally see your face.
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Why would we go through all this?
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There are at least two reasons I can think of.
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First of all, the experience of seeing God's glory is life-changing.
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It is the most habit-forming experience a human being can have, and the only side effect is death to the flesh.
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The second reason is this the true purpose of God's presence manifesting in our lives is evangelism.
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If we can carry a residue of God's glory back into our homes and businesses, if we can carry even a faint glow of his lingering presence into lukewarm churches, then we won't have to beg people to come to the Lord in repentance.
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They will run to the altar when his glory breaks their bondage and they can't come any other way.
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No man comes to the Father any other way except through repentance and salvation through Jesus.
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Every other so-called way to salvation bears the mark of a thief and a robber.
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The Lord knows that we have tried to pave the way for people to come to God through painless, cheap grace and costless revival, but all we wound up with was bargain basement salvation that hardly lasted a week.
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Why?
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Because all we gave people was an emotional encounter with man, when what they really needed was a death encounter with the glory and presence of God himself.
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From here on, our prayer should be this Father, we confess that we want to see change in our lives and in our church so we can bring about change in our city.
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Give us such a heart and passion after you that we may begin to see your glory flow out of us to convict and save the lost.
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Release your presence through us, as you did through Charles Finney when he walked through factories and saw workers drop to their knees under your glory and cried out for forgiveness, although not one word had been spoken or preached.
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May the faintest shadow of your presence in our lives heal the sick and restore the lame we meet in the streets.
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Let your presence so saturate us that unsaved guests can't step into our homes or be around us with unrepentant hearts.
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May your glory bring conviction in their lives that leads to salvation.
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Not because of our words we say, but because of your presence and power in our hearts.
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Honestly, I'm looking for the same kind of revival that they had in the new Hebrids when officials sent for Duncan Campbell who was conducting night revival services in that region.
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They told the evangelist would you please come to the police station?
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There are a whole score of people here and we don't know what's wrong with them, but we think you might.
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Now this really happened as the man walked with the officials through the village to the police station at 4 o'clock in the morning he said it was like a plague had come on the village.
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People were weeping and praying behind every haystack and every door.
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Men were kneeling on the street corners and ladies and children haystack and every door.
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Men were kneeling on the street corners and ladies and children in their nightgowns were huddled around each other in their open doorways, weeping and crying.
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When the evangelist finally reached the police station, he found scores of people weeping and crying out to the police what is wrong.
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They didn't even know enough about God to know it was him.
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They just knew something was wrong and that they were guilty.
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The only thing they knew to do was to go to the police station and confess that something was wrong.
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What was wrong was that there was sin in their hearts and the conviction of God had come upon them.
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Suddenly, when these people began to flood the police station with their confessions of wrongdoing, the police didn't have the answer.
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The evangelist stood on the steps of the police station early that morning and preached a simple gospel of repentance and salvation through Jesus Christ, and genuine revival came to that place.
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This is the kind of revival that I'm talking about, the kind that will quickly overwhelm the resources and manpower of every church.
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Can you imagine people just flocking to the church or someplace like a police station, just weeping and crying and don't know why?
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Can you imagine that happening?
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Why can't it happen here in America?
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I think the biggest reason is America is not hungry for God.
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They're hungry for what?
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The blessings of God, but they're not hungry for God.
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There is a difference.
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Seeking God for blessings is not the same as seeking God's face.
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We've got to seek his face.
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If we want to see things like this happen, if we walk into a place and we want people to feel the presence of God, know that we've been with Jesus, and conviction just falls on them, they get healed of some kind of disease or something just because we walk by Just a shadow of his presence.
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That are with us because they know we've been in touch with him and see people healed and saved and delivered.
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But just that, not even preaching a word, that we need to get hungry.
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We need to get hungry.
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We're going to take a break and we'll come back.
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Come right back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ooh, oh, ooh, yeah, for my good.
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For my good.
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It's all working For my good, for my For my good, for my good, for my good, for my good.
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It's all working for my good.
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Thanks and have a great day.
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Perfect thing, perfect thing.
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Let's see what.
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Let's see what they may bring for my, for my good, for my good.
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I see it working, it's all working.
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Yes, it is for my good, for my good.
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America is hungry, but the bread is stale, but the bread is stale.
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Frankly, we would be totally unable to contain or manage such a harvest of souls in our present state, because we don't have enough fresh bread of his presence on our shelves for the hungry masses.
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It may bother some people that I say that, but I have a problem with our part-time gone fishing church mentality.
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We touched on this earlier in chapter two no bread in the house of bread, but it bears repeating until the situation changes.
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Why is it that on every corner in America's cities we have little convenience stores that stay open 24 hours a day just to meet the public's demand for their goods?
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Meanwhile, most of American churches supposedly satisfy the nation's hunger for God, while operating only two hours a week on Sunday morning.
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