Parenting High School Seniors; Fall Update

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You are listening to the balancing act podcast here's your hosts jamie wonko and joe vitale,

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Hey, everybody. Hey, we are.

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Welcome back to the Balancing Act podcast. I'm Jamie Wacco. I'm here with Joseph Itali.

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Hey, how are you, buddy? What's going on? I'm all right. I'm good.

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I know a little bit running across town, sitting in traffic today.

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Well, hey, here we are. Well, hey, hey, hey.

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All right. I am really happy to be chatting with you since I haven't seen you

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for weeks, it feels like.

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Oh, it does feel like weeks. Yeah. It is. It's been a very, very, very long time.

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We had a very spirited lunch discussion today. You need your own TED Talk show.

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That's what you need. You need your own, like, I just picture you sitting on

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like a big, like red chair, like a, like a lounge chair kind of thing with your,

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with your, you know, with a little table next to you with like a bottle of water.

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So you could just expound on all the things and just tell us what's going on

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in your life, because I am riveted to what is going on with you.

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You know, it's minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes, minutes and minutes.

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I was wondering if we wanted to do like a quick check-in for all of our listeners

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as to the college process.

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We had a really fantastic guest on from Educational Connections.

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Yes, we did. Shout out to Jen.

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Jen Foldvery. Foldvery, yes, who's going to fix all the things.

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Fixing and fixing and fixing all the things. And so I just wanted to do a quick

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chickity chick up and see how we are doing. How's it going over there in La

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Casa de College application?

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Well, by the time this episode airs, I am sure we would have hit the submit

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button on all those applications, right?

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We are in the midst of finalizing everything where the kids have went through

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all of their activities. They finalized their essay.

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They they've decided all the colleges that they're going to apply to.

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And now it's like the whole like finger hovering over the blue.

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I need to do this, but I don't want to do it, but I have to do it,

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but I don't want to do it, but I really want to.

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There's a lot of that going on. Yeah.

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You know where my daughter is going to crash out.

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And then, of course, we have the other twin, who basically is just like, meh, meh, okay.

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How many each? Are we allowed to know the number? How many each are we applying to?

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I couldn't tell you the final number. I think it's anywhere between eight to ten.

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Wow. I know that there have been some other ones that have been added.

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Okay. I think that's about the norm-ish.

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Like, I don't know. Some people are less than that. I don't know what the norm is because I don't care.

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Yes. I say that with like the, like, that's my general.

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Let me give you an example. I applied to five schools. Yeah, me too.

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And I do not remember there being codes for waiving the application fee.

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Also, my parents didn't take me anywhere to visit anywhere.

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So I do know that you get those codes or if that was even a thing back then

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I don't know way back in the 1900s if that was even in the aughts.

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Well isn't aught like oh one oh two oh

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three oh four no pre aughts okay so pre

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right but I yeah I love that when the Shawshank Redemption when they say aught

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anyway so I don't know I'm great question for our listeners for anyone who has

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a better memory than us um were there codes you know when did codes i don't

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remember any i remember when we applied um.

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That for me, it was the first time I felt like a lot of pressure,

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um, you know, to get things done and to fill out the applications and everything

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was on, everything was on paper and I wanted everything to be perfect.

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And the handwriting and the essays and you were handwriting all the stuff.

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You weren't typing anything, you know, back in the day.

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Uh, and you were literally putting this sucker off in the mail with a,

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with a check or a money order in some cases. Yeah. Okay.

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Hey kids, shout out kids. You know what a money order is? No, you don't.

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Um i wonder if what is a specific teacher in our building

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who'd know what a money order is the one who said hey hey whose whose

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song is playing this by the way it was billy joel and he went oh is this

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the four seasons and i was like clock out and go home

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you need to go home um but i

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don't remember i remember like feeling pressure to

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get those applications done and i had started them early enough and

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i was just like i'm staying home today i literally said

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that to my parents and this was the first time i literally had ever said that

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i was like staying home today i am literally sitting

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upstairs and i'm doing these applications like they have to be done there's

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a lot that needs to be completed with them and it was you know paper letters

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of recommendation putting everything together and then mailing it out in the

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mail but there were no codes it was you know we were paying for it so there

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were five schools that i i applied to um.

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And, you know, that's basically how the process went. But this is so much more.

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One, two, three, four, pressure.

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Yeah, there's so it's so exactly. That's long for Billy Joel Day.

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Yes, it did. OK, so feeling all the feelings, right?

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You have two different kids that have two very different approaches to the application process. Yes.

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So I'm trying to be very, you know, this is how I felt as a mom for my son.

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I don't feel this way as a mom for my daughters, because they have very,

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they all have very different personalities, right?

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But I do feel like for my son that God gave him to me to teach me how to slow

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down, how to understand, you know.

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Parts of like his personality that are in such stark contrast to mine.

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And so when I see him like going through this process,

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I'm trying really hard to parent him like as the parent that he needs and not

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what I want to say about it because it's not Like my journey, it's his journey.

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And so there's a lot of things. So even like you said, okay,

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how many schools should you apply to?

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And it's like, oh, I think eight to 10 is the norm. So like for someone like

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Drew to say what is like, oh, that's the norm or not norm immediately panics him.

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OK, so I haven't even thought about how many,

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because I do think that like his and I'm sure your kids feel this way to his

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like immediate social circle and especially a lot of the kids that he's been

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with in the fall for band are really high stakes.

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Not that like some of the state schools or some of the schools our kids are

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applying to aren't you know in that way but like these are like the way that

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they're talking about it has has

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been so pressure cooker that i have been trying really hard with him to,

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look at it from that i get it i i get that you're all high achievers and i understand that you know.

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You want to do your best and it's important to you.

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But at the same time, you can't hold up the same measuring stick that you,

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you know, with other kids or other, you know, cause it's like,

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you don't live in their houses.

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Like you don't, those aren't your parents. You don't know, you know what I mean?

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Like, but it's so difficult.

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And you know, last weekend, Jason was at, he was doing something for bands with the kids.

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And I guess, I don't know if he like used the restroom, or I don't they carry

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stuff and move stuff around. And I guess somebody,

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And I don't even think it was somebody from our town or school,

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like, had said, like, oh, yeah, where's your son applying?

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Which I find to be, like, or where's your, you know, you got a senior, where are they going?

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Which I find to be, like, a completely topical, you know, it's the same as,

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like, the, like, hey, when are you getting married? Oh, hey, when's the baby due?

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You know, it's fine. It's totally a fine thing to talk about.

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And I guess he must have said something to the effect of, like,

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you know, he doesn't want to leave the state. So he's like he's looking,

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you know, in New Jersey and he's not sure that he wants to live away.

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Like, we're not sure yet. We have to kind of see how things play out.

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And the other person said to him, like, you're robbing him of a real life experience.

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Well, you're wait a second, though. No, no, no. You're you're not robbing him of that.

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Like you're you're listening and taking the temperature of what your child wants.

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It would be different if I said to my kids, you're staying home and they wanted to stay away now.

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And my kids have not expressed interest about staying home, but we have also

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said to them from a very not a very young age.

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But we said, like, when you're 18, you're out and you can't live here anymore.

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No, that's not what we said.

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We said we said you can live in our shed in the backyard.

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No, we we told them, like, the experience of living away is one that we think that,

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kids need not every

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kid needs it not every kid is ready for that maybe drew

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isn't maybe he'll eventually realize that and be like hey you know what i'm

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ready i'm ready now right i started out and i've told my story before i started

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out at west virginia university got mono was not kissing girls it's not the

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kissing disease in my case he got it from a cow got it from a cow is that Can

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I get mono from a cow? I think, well, you would know.

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West Virginia, country mama. That may be the best clip that we're ever going

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to pull for any social media thing ever.

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Because right now. Joking home with mono. Yes. Yeah.

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Yes. Oh, good Lord. Okay.

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He wasn't doing air sips, okay? Moving on.

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That's how we got mono. yeah no it was it was

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very sharing a diet he was sharing a diet coke sharing

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a road he was having a dessert soda sharing a dessert

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soda um no like i literally got

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there and within 48 hours i got sick oh that's so you must have gotten it from

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home before you yeah i i must have it was 48 or 72 hours and you know i went

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to the doctor and i was sleeping like 11 12 13 hours a day i wasn't partying

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i wasn't going anywhere i think i went like west virginia has this like kickoff,

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like block party where everybody goes and hangs out with that.

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Like that was the thing that I went to.

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And then like two days later, I just started not feeling well.

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Um, and I wound up coming home. Like it would have been like,

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okay, tough it out and stay.

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But for me, it just wasn't the right time. And when I got home and it took me

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a couple of months to really feel right again, I, I said to myself,

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you know what, I'm not the most religious person in the world,

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but that's gotta be some kind of sign that I am not in the right spot.

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So I said, I'll just go to kind of college and I'll, I'll, you know, do that.

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And I think that was good for me because I, I learned, um.

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You know, how to be a better student. I learned how to do college work.

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I think that I'm a proponent of county college. If you really don't know what

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you're going to do, I knew what I wanted to do. I knew I wanted to be a history teacher.

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I always knew that going into college as well.

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But when, you know, I made the decision to come home, it was like,

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all right, well, you kind of feel a little bit, I don't want to say a failure,

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but you kind of feel like, oh, it didn't work out.

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But like, okay, just because it doesn't work out, just because one door closes,

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another one opens, right? So.

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Some kids though, they need that experience. So I stayed home for like three

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years and then I wound up going down to, to TCNJ to, you know,

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cause it's where I wanted to go.

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Cause I knew it was a very good college for, for teachers.

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And like we've talked about before too, you know, for certain jobs,

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for certain fields in the state of New Jersey, when you graduate with a degree

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from that school, your resume goes to the top of the list because it is a very,

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as a very good academic reputation.

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And I said, you know what, that's where I want to go. And that's what I want to do. Yeah.

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I figured that would give me a, give me a leg up because also the landscape

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of teaching at that time was you needed every single thing that you could possibly

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do to get a leg up because the jobs were not as plentiful as they were today.

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Yeah. So what have we learned? What do we know so far about our college journey,

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parenting, uh, seniors?

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Let's, uh, let's say, what do you know? We have, uh, the common app.

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Yeah. You have something called FAFSA or as a, very good friend of the pod says FAFSA.

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Yes. So I like to now say FAFSA.

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Yeah. And you have to fill that out and they have to fill that out.

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And then you have to try to find a time when they're actually home to tell you that they did it.

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Oh yeah. There's that. Which is super fun and funny. Yes. Yes.

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And today I actually said, you know what? I think you should give me your email

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password because I can't, there's like, you know, when you log into something,

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but then you need it, but then there's a code, but then you can't.

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Yeah. I can't like wait anymore. And he's never here.

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So how about we have tours to get an idea of what the schools look like. Right.

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So we have tours. We have applications. The applications short of,

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you know, what blood type your great great grandmother is.

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It's a thorough, thorough.

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I mean, just question after question after question. And then once you're in

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the Common App, there are a ton of spaces that need to be filled out for each

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individual school that you're applying to.

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And then they have different questions and different things that you need to

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fill out. And this is optional. And that's optional.

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And you don't have to do this. And we're like, well, what do you do?

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Right. And one of them was like, can I photograph you?

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Which I thought was so funny. Like how in-depth they're, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Montclair actually had a question about, can you be photographed?

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And I was like, wow, that's really like, we haven't even gotten in yet, but okay.

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You know, so it depends on, I guess, how they keep that and how they find,

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I suppose, whatever they want and the information that they have.

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And then what clubs might you join if we let you in, right?

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So there's a lot of academic and social interests on top of,

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for each individual school, on top of what you've already done in high school. Yeah.

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Okay. And there's really very

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little explanation or guidance for how to do any of that. Very little.

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So we did a lot with the kids over the summer.

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And I know that when they met with their guidance counselor at the beginning

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of the year, the guidance counselor was almost like, okay, well,

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you guys are good. And it was like.

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OK, like we're trying to make sure that we do things in the right,

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you know, excuse the phrases that I'm using the right way, in the right order.

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We don't know. We're literally like building, building the plane as we're flying it.

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Well, let's all say in defense of the counselors at our particular high school.

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And just like Jen had mentioned when we interviewed her, what a difficult position

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they're in because they have like hundreds and hundreds of students.

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And that's why I was so intrigued when we talked to Jen.

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Her sole responsibility was college advising for these specific kids.

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I don't know why we don't move to that.

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One of the guidance counselors becomes like, okay, this is specifically the

00:16:46.859 --> 00:16:48.099
college application person.

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This is the person that is the

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go-to for all of those things instead of everyone getting that training.

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Although I do really like the process of you have your guidance counselor and

00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:04.459
she or he is your counselor for all three years. Yeah, that should absolutely

00:17:04.459 --> 00:17:07.579
be the case. Because I think it's great that you can have that relationship

00:17:07.579 --> 00:17:08.959
and have an understanding.

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And then when they have to recommend you or write on your behalf,

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like they really should know something about you by that point in time.

00:17:15.859 --> 00:17:20.719
So, so either way, it is a huge job, but I often think about,

00:17:20.919 --> 00:17:24.459
you know, when we think, when we talk about like inequity, you really think

00:17:24.459 --> 00:17:28.019
about the kids who don't have like a mom and dad, um.

00:17:28.659 --> 00:17:31.979
To sit down with them. The ones that are figuring it out on their own. Yeah.

00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.899
I don't know how you figure it out on your own really. And I,

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and I almost think, geez, there's, there's talk about like big brothers, big sisters.

00:17:39.779 --> 00:17:43.119
Like I wish that there could be like an adopt a senior. Like there's someone

00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.759
out there that needs help with the paperwork because I, I mean,

00:17:46.859 --> 00:17:51.219
I joked, but Drew, you know, does have from, from his,

00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.439
you know, way back with his auditory processing disorder, still some like,

00:17:55.779 --> 00:17:58.299
like language issues, vocabulary acquisition.

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And I could 100% see why he felt out that he is not a U.S. resident.

00:18:04.281 --> 00:18:09.321
Based on the question, I'm sorry, he's not a U.S. citizen.

00:18:09.681 --> 00:18:12.781
He's a U.S. resident. And it was like, let's go back.

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And, you know, which is why, like, if you have a college senior and they are

00:18:17.541 --> 00:18:20.161
out in the world, it's like, no.

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And also, like, I was talking to a colleague of ours today and we were discussing,

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you know, what do you do? What do you not do as far as, like,

00:18:26.981 --> 00:18:28.301
your children are concerned?

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And, you know, and she was saying, like, do you think he's too old?

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Her son is 14. And I said someone could be 50 and they need help.

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So there's an idea for me that I hold very dear.

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Like no one is going through this life alone, nor should they.

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So whether you're 14 or 40, everybody needs help.

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Everyone needs someone to brainstorm, bounce ideas off of, look at what are

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my options, what should I do?

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So regardless of, you know, if it's a silly mistake or not, or,

00:19:04.941 --> 00:19:06.941
you know, and it is too, like, they have to be able to ask like,

00:19:07.001 --> 00:19:08.641
where'd you go to school? When did you graduate?

00:19:09.721 --> 00:19:13.101
It's just, well, that's, that's the idea of how we're balancing all this stuff too, right?

00:19:13.481 --> 00:19:18.101
We talk about that all the time. Like one of the things that we do that I think

00:19:18.101 --> 00:19:22.381
is, is very good. And I've been trying to do a better job of friend that I've

00:19:22.381 --> 00:19:25.101
gotten it from you. It's like just asking like, Hey, are you okay?

00:19:25.481 --> 00:19:28.481
Like, because I've been trying to do that a little bit more,

00:19:28.561 --> 00:19:31.441
but you also do a very good job of that.

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Like today, you know, I was overwhelmed because it just, there's just a lot

00:19:34.321 --> 00:19:36.481
of things that need to be done by a certain period of time.

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And you even offered like, Hey, is there anything I could do for you?

00:19:39.041 --> 00:19:43.381
And I'm like, no, I mean, I wish there was, I'm not going to lie.

00:19:43.721 --> 00:19:45.241
I'd be like, could you do this?

00:19:45.741 --> 00:19:48.501
Um, but that's part of the, the, the.

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The uniqueness of the position that we are in right now.

00:19:54.042 --> 00:19:57.182
Right. Like when you're, when you're in it, right.

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When you're, when you have little kids and you got like my, my,

00:20:00.642 --> 00:20:03.282
like my neighbor is have like, they have a five-year-old and a three-year-old

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and it's Halloween and it's soccer practice.

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And it's, and it's when to put dinner on the table and it's who's going to pick

00:20:08.362 --> 00:20:11.462
the kids up from school and how I'm going to like, how the, like my wife is

00:20:11.462 --> 00:20:13.922
picking them up and my daughter's picking them up and we're helping wherever

00:20:13.922 --> 00:20:16.062
we can. Like we were in it.

00:20:16.322 --> 00:20:21.582
Like I was in that. So I remember that experience, but now balancing looks different

00:20:21.582 --> 00:20:26.282
for you and I, because we're, we're trying to figure out what's the best way

00:20:26.282 --> 00:20:29.562
for us to encourage our child to leave the nest.

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And you gave a very good line. And I don't remember it exactly,

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uh, about you're not raising your children to live with you.

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You're raising them to live without you.

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And I'm trying not to make you cry. I'm not, I'm not. I've also decided this

00:20:45.642 --> 00:20:49.922
year, it's like, I'm not, I want to spend it with like as much joy as possible

00:20:49.922 --> 00:20:54.562
in like, in exactly what you're saying in those running around and it's crazy.

00:20:54.702 --> 00:20:56.662
And then who's like throwing up on you. And then you're going,

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you know, here, there and everywhere. And even, um, I'm trying to be very conscious

00:21:02.182 --> 00:21:06.842
of all the things and even like taking them for their flu shots.

00:21:07.402 --> 00:21:14.522
I said, my God, like I did this with two bucket seats, a five-year-old.

00:21:14.862 --> 00:21:18.642
And then I had, you know, it was like, holy moly that, you know,

00:21:18.802 --> 00:21:22.202
there's definitely moments where I sit and it's like, this is great.

00:21:22.262 --> 00:21:26.582
You guys, it was like, you walked in here yourself, sat down together.

00:21:26.622 --> 00:21:31.222
You know, it's all of those things that, and then I do, I try to listen to the

00:21:31.222 --> 00:21:35.302
people with younger kids and, you know, and they're here, there and everywhere.

00:21:35.642 --> 00:21:39.362
Not that my life isn't like still somewhat like bananas in its own right.

00:21:39.502 --> 00:21:43.922
But I'm trying to not look at this year as like, wow, I'm really.

00:21:44.827 --> 00:21:51.167
So sad or I can't believe it. I'm looking at it like, damn, like we were doing this thing.

00:21:51.367 --> 00:21:58.987
We worked for every point. We worked at every point in time up until now, like for these things.

00:21:59.807 --> 00:22:05.687
And so to be able to really try to appreciate and enjoy them rather than like,

00:22:05.787 --> 00:22:11.847
oh, you know, I mean, I think it, it needs to be said, like we've raised amazing

00:22:11.847 --> 00:22:13.507
kids and not, this isn't like a,

00:22:13.887 --> 00:22:16.927
Hey, let me pat myself on the back now because I'm very self-deprecating when

00:22:16.927 --> 00:22:17.947
it comes to things like that.

00:22:18.427 --> 00:22:22.127
But like when I hear other people talk about my children and,

00:22:22.147 --> 00:22:25.747
and you know, other like teachers or whatever,

00:22:25.927 --> 00:22:28.267
like when you hear that and you hear something positive, it's like,

00:22:28.327 --> 00:22:34.187
okay, I do, I do know and do understand that I'm raising like kids that I know

00:22:34.187 --> 00:22:36.847
are going to be able to be successful on their own, in their own right,

00:22:37.027 --> 00:22:40.187
in whatever career or decision they make

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um i've watched my son over the last you

00:22:43.167 --> 00:22:45.987
know year or so kind of make like

00:22:45.987 --> 00:22:49.567
this little bit of a turn where he's he's he's just

00:22:49.567 --> 00:22:56.307
turned into like this this like very positive yet like at the same time aloof

00:22:56.307 --> 00:22:59.087
like we had this funny conversation just before this podcast was like i was

00:22:59.087 --> 00:23:02.547
trying to because we're trying to do the adulting thing right so it's like okay

00:23:02.547 --> 00:23:05.627
you have a car now the car needs an oil change you got a call and you got to

00:23:05.627 --> 00:23:08.127
get an oil change appointment So I tried to explain to him,

00:23:08.207 --> 00:23:10.627
like, OK, if you get an appointment for tomorrow.

00:23:11.147 --> 00:23:14.967
Tell them you're going to drop it off tonight and we'll drop the car off tonight.

00:23:15.067 --> 00:23:17.967
I'll teach you how to fill out the envelope for the Dropbox. Right.

00:23:18.467 --> 00:23:21.487
And then you go pick it up tomorrow after school.

00:23:21.607 --> 00:23:24.407
And then I said, but if you can't get an appointment for tomorrow and you can

00:23:24.407 --> 00:23:28.267
get an appointment Thursday, you'll drop it off tomorrow after work.

00:23:28.467 --> 00:23:30.767
Then you'll pick it up Thursday after school.

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And then he's like trying to repeat it back to me.

00:23:34.707 --> 00:23:36.587
And I'm like I'm like,

00:23:37.806 --> 00:23:40.926
just, Joe, just stop talking. I said, let's try this one more time.

00:23:41.086 --> 00:23:44.706
And he's like, oh, okay, I get it now. And then he just starts laughing.

00:23:44.906 --> 00:23:47.546
It's like, he's really, really bright. He's really smart.

00:23:47.986 --> 00:23:51.226
But there are times when he's like... When he's not a U.S. citizen.

00:23:51.386 --> 00:23:53.146
Yeah, when he's not a U.S. citizen. Yeah, of course.

00:23:57.026 --> 00:23:59.846
I mean, it's a U.S. resident. Are you a U.S. resident? Yeah.

00:23:59.986 --> 00:24:01.886
Do you live in the U.S.? Absolutely. God.

00:24:02.486 --> 00:24:07.626
That is fantastic. It's crazy. And, you know, the other day I had to take my

00:24:07.626 --> 00:24:12.206
car for an oil change and I asked my dad to please drop me off.

00:24:12.666 --> 00:24:17.066
And I went to get to the envelope and fill out the envelope.

00:24:17.506 --> 00:24:24.546
And I was told in a matter of like 15 seconds, you're not filling it out right.

00:24:24.766 --> 00:24:28.306
Your handwriting isn't neat enough. Don't lean on the car. You'll ruin the paint.

00:24:28.466 --> 00:24:32.206
And when I tell you and I like looked at him and I was like,

00:24:33.206 --> 00:24:36.146
isn't this fun? look at the fun we're having,

00:24:39.526 --> 00:24:45.786
well you know I really do think that as a parent you really like and as many

00:24:45.786 --> 00:24:49.726
things you can get to where you're like confidants,

00:24:49.946 --> 00:24:54.466
friends depending on each other which is really like how my relationship with

00:24:54.466 --> 00:24:58.786
my dad has it is but it's every once in a while there really are those like

00:24:58.786 --> 00:25:03.906
glimpses into like I you'll always be 12 you're always going to be 17,

00:25:05.266 --> 00:25:08.426
my daughter's going to work and she does all these different things she gets

00:25:08.426 --> 00:25:09.986
out of work the other day and she goes.

00:25:12.166 --> 00:25:17.166
She goes she calls me she always calls me and I'm totally fine with it because

00:25:17.166 --> 00:25:20.506
I think it's hysterical and she calls me and she's like hey,

00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:23.629
I'm like, what's up? She's like, it's like 845. She's like, hey,

00:25:24.149 --> 00:25:27.369
I really need to get gas. Are the gas stations open?

00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:29.929
And I'm like, okay.

00:25:30.949 --> 00:25:36.609
I'm like, okay. First of all, honey, yes, it's 845. The gas stations are still open.

00:25:36.729 --> 00:25:41.309
She's like, oh, and also there's an emoji that popped up on my dashboard.

00:25:41.829 --> 00:25:45.469
And if you don't know what car dashboard emojis are, they're those,

00:25:45.469 --> 00:25:46.869
you know, indicator lights.

00:25:46.869 --> 00:25:49.649
So their tire pressure light comes on which sometimes

00:25:49.649 --> 00:25:53.469
when it gets cold the tire pressure drops you gotta fill up the tires turns out

00:25:53.469 --> 00:25:56.289
that it's the uh it's like a sensor like

00:25:56.289 --> 00:25:58.869
tire pressure sensor that has to be replaced right the car's a little

00:25:58.869 --> 00:26:01.969
bit older um so i have

00:26:01.969 --> 00:26:04.829
to go and like i have to like get the car find out

00:26:04.829 --> 00:26:07.669
where they have the sensor and go and get it

00:26:07.669 --> 00:26:10.369
done so i'm like yeah you'll have to go with me and she's like

00:26:10.369 --> 00:26:14.349
no no thank you i'm like like no

00:26:14.349 --> 00:26:16.949
like i'm gonna take the car but we're gonna

00:26:16.949 --> 00:26:20.069
go together and you're gonna know like what they ask you

00:26:20.069 --> 00:26:25.349
and what questions to ask like you need to start doing that because you know

00:26:25.349 --> 00:26:28.569
i don't want to be morbid i'm not gonna be around forever you know you don't

00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:31.529
want to you want to rely on yourself to be able to do those things you're not

00:26:31.529 --> 00:26:34.909
even 50 where the hell are you going i'm not going anywhere i'm just saying

00:26:34.909 --> 00:26:39.929
no i'm just saying i like the no thank you yeah no i'm going back to like no thank Thank you.

00:26:40.089 --> 00:26:45.689
No, she should be like, she's a pretty, pretty bad fear of needles.

00:26:45.969 --> 00:26:49.009
And we have a doctor's appointment soon. She's going to have to get a flu shot.

00:26:49.009 --> 00:26:53.469
And it's going to be the worst, the worst, the worst.

00:26:53.589 --> 00:26:58.249
And I'm always the one that has to bring her conveniently enough. So.

00:27:01.026 --> 00:27:04.486
When is it i'd like to go it is this

00:27:04.486 --> 00:27:07.566
coming it's this coming monday um yeah

00:27:07.566 --> 00:27:15.206
feel free to come with me 9 30 9 30 a.m let's go um so we i think she had to

00:27:15.206 --> 00:27:17.966
do something where like it was like part of her physical and she had to get

00:27:17.966 --> 00:27:21.606
blood work and i was like yeah we gotta go and she's like oh yeah about the

00:27:21.606 --> 00:27:27.106
blood work i'm like okay i'm like what's up she's like yeah i won't be doing that. Okay.

00:27:31.486 --> 00:27:36.446
And this is what I mean. Like they're turning into such funny young adults and

00:27:36.446 --> 00:27:38.326
I don't want to miss that process.

00:27:38.586 --> 00:27:42.686
Like I really just like sad and it's over. And yeah, no, but it's not though.

00:27:42.806 --> 00:27:45.826
Like I really like, what do I, what, you know, I mean, what do I miss?

00:27:45.906 --> 00:27:50.986
Like I miss, I know like every weekend this weekend, I've gotten a chance to

00:27:50.986 --> 00:27:53.986
go out and play golf on a Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning with my son.

00:27:54.306 --> 00:27:58.166
And like we said, like we played a lot over the summer and he wanted to keep

00:27:58.166 --> 00:28:00.786
playing. It's like, he really enjoys it. So it's like, all right, let's keep going.

00:28:00.986 --> 00:28:04.686
So I just enjoy that time. He laughs, he plays his music.

00:28:05.086 --> 00:28:11.606
We have a good, you know, he tries to be competitive to a, not to a bad point,

00:28:11.706 --> 00:28:14.646
but just to be, you know, competing with himself and challenging himself and stuff.

00:28:15.046 --> 00:28:18.126
But I'll miss that. Like, I'm going to want to still go, but part of me is going

00:28:18.126 --> 00:28:20.946
to want to go with him because I know it's something that he enjoys.

00:28:21.226 --> 00:28:25.306
Yeah. Um, so, but it's not like that's never going to happen again.

00:28:25.306 --> 00:28:26.746
You know, it just won't happen as often.

00:28:26.986 --> 00:28:30.886
So you have to really, as, uh, what is it? It's the, uh, the long goodbye.

00:28:31.166 --> 00:28:34.306
Yeah. The long goodbye. But it's a, I actually sent this to a friend of mine

00:28:34.306 --> 00:28:37.926
today as we were talking about something as a Ferris Bueller line. Right.

00:28:38.866 --> 00:28:41.726
And if you guys remember the movie, children of the eighties,

00:28:41.946 --> 00:28:47.126
um, life moves pretty fast. If you don't look, stop and look around once in

00:28:47.126 --> 00:28:48.266
a while, you could miss it.

00:28:48.686 --> 00:28:51.366
So you kind of have to like, stop and smell the roses. It's like,

00:28:51.446 --> 00:28:54.286
buy the concert tickets. It's like, do the thing because...

00:28:55.496 --> 00:29:02.196
You know, do the thing. And I do like the very, very charming idea of raising

00:29:02.196 --> 00:29:09.796
people that you not only are proud of, but that you genuinely enjoy spending time with.

00:29:10.876 --> 00:29:15.516
And it gets such a gift, you know, to be able to say, like, I really like you

00:29:15.516 --> 00:29:20.916
and I'm really happy that I get to spend time with you or that, you know, you you're.

00:29:22.395 --> 00:29:25.835
Going out into the world, like, representing all of that, you know,

00:29:26.015 --> 00:29:31.595
all of the good that we've tried to impart, you know, I think it's fantastic

00:29:31.595 --> 00:29:33.855
to look at it and frame it that way.

00:29:33.855 --> 00:29:40.455
But yeah, balancing the emotions, especially of seniors and trying to say,

00:29:40.675 --> 00:29:45.735
okay, we've, we've kind of, we have to stop and measure, you know,

00:29:45.815 --> 00:29:51.095
how much are we going to pour into sending out the, just like from your,

00:29:51.275 --> 00:29:53.895
you know, from your bucket, so to speak, like how much are you going to pour

00:29:53.895 --> 00:29:57.015
into like sending those and then waiting?

00:29:57.015 --> 00:29:59.715
I mean, because so much of it is just anticipation and waiting,

00:29:59.995 --> 00:30:02.995
you know, and it's a lot of self, like, am I good enough?

00:30:03.795 --> 00:30:08.375
Am I, did I work hard enough? Did I, you know, try?

00:30:08.675 --> 00:30:12.795
And I think Drew's getting a little bit of like, oh, that's where you're applying?

00:30:13.055 --> 00:30:15.535
Like, why aren't you trying to apply to somewhere better?

00:30:15.815 --> 00:30:20.555
Which is somewhat, not somewhat, which is 100% triggering for me,

00:30:20.615 --> 00:30:24.655
because that was my takeaway as a senior.

00:30:24.655 --> 00:30:30.175
That was really difficult for me as a kid to hear like, oh, you're going to

00:30:30.175 --> 00:30:34.975
the 13th grade, you know, because I was staying home instead of going away.

00:30:35.155 --> 00:30:39.175
And I think that's probably like something that's pretty wild,

00:30:39.195 --> 00:30:43.475
like that Jason and I both share and our like feelings about that,

00:30:43.595 --> 00:30:48.295
which is good because at least we're on the same page and we can relate to not

00:30:48.295 --> 00:30:52.635
like thinking that that's like the end all be all of life and maturity and like,

00:30:52.775 --> 00:30:55.075
you know, fun or whatever. it's supposed to be.

00:30:55.295 --> 00:31:01.175
But, you know, I think it, it really depends on each kid individually and also,

00:31:01.735 --> 00:31:08.135
you know, what is best for the family because, you know, the, the cost of,

00:31:08.535 --> 00:31:15.735
you know, many of these like experiences can, you know, can certainly be on

00:31:15.735 --> 00:31:19.115
the back end, a difficult part of it, right.

00:31:19.255 --> 00:31:22.215
Of like, you're going to walk away with like a really big bill.

00:31:23.754 --> 00:31:29.994
Which is also tricky. And that's what we're not, like, we're not entertaining that. Yeah.

00:31:31.354 --> 00:31:36.714
And, like, I know that there's some things that my children can benefit from

00:31:36.714 --> 00:31:39.394
regarding, you know, my wife's employment and stuff like that.

00:31:39.494 --> 00:31:41.194
But that's not an end-all be-all to me.

00:31:41.494 --> 00:31:46.914
Like, you know, my children going to a big institution, it's large,

00:31:47.074 --> 00:31:50.774
it's intimidating, and I don't know if that's the right environment for them.

00:31:50.934 --> 00:31:54.414
Right. Absolutely. That's where you're going because that I don't want them

00:31:54.414 --> 00:31:55.574
to have resentment over that.

00:31:55.794 --> 00:31:59.114
I also want them to make the best informed decision. Yeah.

00:31:59.714 --> 00:32:06.294
It's kind of hard to do that when, you know, we and we go to on a bus tour of this college and.

00:32:07.154 --> 00:32:11.814
You drive around to these large campuses and you're getting off and you see

00:32:11.814 --> 00:32:13.254
a building, you see where the people live.

00:32:13.514 --> 00:32:17.194
And then there was no like engagement to it. I just think they didn't do it.

00:32:17.254 --> 00:32:20.094
Didn't do it justice as to what is there.

00:32:20.534 --> 00:32:23.234
And so the other schools that they went to really did do that.

00:32:25.034 --> 00:32:29.934
And it's also interesting to me that we're not going north in any way at all.

00:32:30.134 --> 00:32:33.054
Like we're not going like because, you know, we're in central New Jersey and

00:32:33.054 --> 00:32:35.494
the furthest school is three hours.

00:32:36.414 --> 00:32:39.614
And I don't even think that one's on the table, to be very honest.

00:32:39.794 --> 00:32:41.554
I just I just don't think it is.

00:32:41.874 --> 00:32:44.794
If they got in there, it would be part of the discussion. Sure.

00:32:44.934 --> 00:32:47.034
But it's never really part of the discussion.

00:32:48.204 --> 00:32:51.184
Like ultimate discussion it's like oh i like that program or

00:32:51.184 --> 00:32:53.944
they have something that's really good there yeah um you know

00:32:53.944 --> 00:32:57.144
and that would be thousand down in maryland that my kids are looking at but that's

00:32:57.144 --> 00:33:02.604
south too yeah that's so there's nowhere in um like nowhere upstate new york

00:33:02.604 --> 00:33:07.704
nowhere boston nowhere got it there's nowhere not connecticut not upstate new

00:33:07.704 --> 00:33:13.344
york none of the suny schools got it nope it's just not on so it's pennsylvania

00:33:13.344 --> 00:33:16.644
maryland new jersey yeah and we're talking, it's all driving distance.

00:33:16.824 --> 00:33:20.324
It's all, I mean, the furthest Pennsylvania one is Westchester.

00:33:20.804 --> 00:33:23.404
I mean, but it's also impossible to see all these schools. I mean,

00:33:23.444 --> 00:33:25.804
how many schools can you really see, you know?

00:33:25.964 --> 00:33:29.504
And they also, like, if they know what they want to do, you know,

00:33:29.564 --> 00:33:32.424
if it's, if it's social work, if it's psychology, if it's teaching,

00:33:32.764 --> 00:33:36.364
if it's, you know, business, whatever it is, like, there's good schools out

00:33:36.364 --> 00:33:40.864
there for every single, for every single major.

00:33:41.104 --> 00:33:44.204
Like, they're out there. And there's plenty around here. So,

00:33:44.864 --> 00:33:47.344
like, we've talked before, like, we don't have airplane money.

00:33:47.644 --> 00:33:54.604
Yeah. We're not buying money. If you want to go to school in Georgia, great.

00:33:55.544 --> 00:33:58.624
We'll drop you off in August. We'll see you at Thanksgiving.

00:33:59.204 --> 00:34:02.264
Like, you know, are we going to be harsh about it? No.

00:34:02.504 --> 00:34:08.464
But, like... It's also not necessarily practical because you just never know what's going to happen.

00:34:08.804 --> 00:34:11.244
So, if you need to get them home, like.

00:34:12.132 --> 00:34:14.932
They have to come. You know what I mean? Like something could happen and then

00:34:14.932 --> 00:34:17.792
they have to come home. You have to come up with that money somehow.

00:34:18.012 --> 00:34:21.512
It's the stress of that to me is like very overwhelming.

00:34:21.832 --> 00:34:29.152
But so now so now we've done essays, common app, SATs, visits.

00:34:29.912 --> 00:34:33.892
Yeah. Like I, I even said to you, you know, over the, over the,

00:34:34.232 --> 00:34:36.552
um, summer. And if, by the way, if you want me to cut this out, I will.

00:34:36.932 --> 00:34:40.372
Um, you know, I said to you about, we went to Westchester and I said,

00:34:40.552 --> 00:34:43.212
I feel this environment would be great for Drew to check out.

00:34:43.312 --> 00:34:45.492
And you were like, Oh, he doesn't want to leave the state.

00:34:45.772 --> 00:34:51.192
And it's really just as close as like Rowan, which is a school in South same.

00:34:51.392 --> 00:34:56.232
That's actually closer in distance, but I don't know if he's hung up by like,

00:34:56.332 --> 00:35:01.112
Oh, I just don't want to leave the state or, or is it distance wise?

00:35:01.252 --> 00:35:04.452
I just wanted to ask you that question because I thought like,

00:35:04.572 --> 00:35:06.552
I looked at it. I was like, wow, it's a small little school.

00:35:06.572 --> 00:35:08.232
It's got a great little college town.

00:35:08.712 --> 00:35:11.792
It it's, it's got a, what I really liked about it.

00:35:11.812 --> 00:35:15.372
And I talked about this is the amount of like services that they offered to

00:35:15.372 --> 00:35:17.292
students with like off Kansas housing department.

00:35:17.572 --> 00:35:21.172
And like, they all do events, but it just seemed like everything was like,

00:35:21.332 --> 00:35:23.392
so like you could do this, you could do this.

00:35:23.472 --> 00:35:26.512
And the local businesses, They want you to go and like use your meal plan stuff

00:35:26.512 --> 00:35:29.092
there. And you can go to this little place and get a cup of coffee and go to

00:35:29.092 --> 00:35:30.212
that place in the bookstore.

00:35:30.492 --> 00:35:33.332
And I just thought it was like they would love this.

00:35:33.512 --> 00:35:36.472
Like it'd be such a great, small, little, close knit environment.

00:35:36.492 --> 00:35:40.672
It's not like a like a Ohio State where there's like. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:41.232 --> 00:35:43.232
Eleventy billion people, you know.

00:35:44.292 --> 00:35:47.832
So, you know, is that not in the cards for Drew? If you like even if it's over

00:35:47.832 --> 00:35:51.512
the state lines, he's like, no, I don't want to do that. Honestly, it was.

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.340
There were, he's not a one to elaborate.

00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:05.840
And yeah, I'm so, so once he said, because even, because even Rutgers,

00:36:06.020 --> 00:36:09.960
we've gone back to a few times, like, are you sure? Are you sure?

00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:13.940
And I've asked him, it's absolutely not a hundred percent.

00:36:14.140 --> 00:36:17.580
No. And this was like somebody who had like sunglasses and the pennants and

00:36:17.580 --> 00:36:21.380
the t-shirts and like all the things for Rutgers forever. ever.

00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:25.020
And so it was like, no, I don't want to do that.

00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:29.360
And I think sometimes,

00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:37.920
especially if you have a child who doesn't necessarily or is not easy with decisions

00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.120
when there is one, it just has to be, we're done.

00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.000
If he's bold enough to say, I'm not doing that,

00:36:46.220 --> 00:36:49.160
then I know that he has given it quite a

00:36:49.160 --> 00:36:51.980
lot of thought and we're leaving it there so i wasn't

00:36:51.980 --> 00:36:55.180
gonna oh but we should you know i i think we he that's

00:36:55.180 --> 00:36:58.200
how he felt that's what he wanted to do and i

00:36:58.200 --> 00:37:01.880
thought you know what if you're able to make decisions about certain things

00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.740
ruckers is a no then no um and so that isn't he didn't he wouldn't even apply

00:37:07.740 --> 00:37:12.000
i did that one i did bring up a couple of times the leaving this state we had

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.920
talked about a couple of times because i you know friends of ours have gone

00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:15.880
especially Pennsylvania,

00:37:16.300 --> 00:37:19.800
New Jersey, not so much with marching bands, but Pennsylvania, lots of marching bands.

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.400
And there's a lot of offers like 50% off tuition. If you go here and you're

00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:28.520
in the band and things like that, that would be very much a dangling carrot

00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:30.720
for, um, you know, for somebody like him.

00:37:31.620 --> 00:37:36.900
No. Okay. You know, and it was, are you sure? Absolutely.

00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.840
Yeah. But when I, when I tell you that, like, I have an inkling of like what

00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:47.620
they are looking for and I have a gut feeling as to what might happen, I still don't...

00:37:49.969 --> 00:37:53.669
Yeah. I said, somebody asked me today, Oh, are they going to go to the same school?

00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:57.829
And my, my, I may have mentioned this already. My whole thing was like,

00:37:57.909 --> 00:38:00.009
if they go to the same school, that's great.

00:38:00.169 --> 00:38:03.789
I think they'd have a support system built in for each other where they don't.

00:38:03.849 --> 00:38:05.729
And if they don't, that's fine.

00:38:06.269 --> 00:38:09.669
Selfishly, I would like them to go to the same school because they'd have that

00:38:09.669 --> 00:38:12.309
support system and I'm going to be the one moving them.

00:38:12.569 --> 00:38:16.909
So, um, cause my wife was like, yeah, just give me something to build so I can

00:38:16.909 --> 00:38:22.909
like focus on that and cry in the corner. And then she'll, you know, I'll do the.

00:38:23.169 --> 00:38:25.529
Here's what we're going to do. Are you ready? What are we going to do? OK.

00:38:25.929 --> 00:38:31.349
On your phone. All right. I want you to put a note.

00:38:31.649 --> 00:38:34.649
I'll put a note. OK. We're going to do college predictions.

00:38:35.349 --> 00:38:40.309
2026. We're not going to reveal until we're going to do this like an episode

00:38:40.309 --> 00:38:44.429
in the spring where we update everybody. OK.

00:38:44.789 --> 00:38:48.109
Right now on your phone, you're going to do college prediction.

00:38:48.569 --> 00:38:50.409
And I'm going to do it for your kids.

00:38:51.554 --> 00:38:55.974
And you're going to do it for mine. Okay. And you're going to do it for your own.

00:38:56.254 --> 00:38:59.694
Okay. Now, I don't know where your kids applied. I don't know where my own kids applied.

00:39:02.074 --> 00:39:05.294
Like, no, because the list has changed, and they've added some stuff to it,

00:39:05.294 --> 00:39:07.454
and they've taken some stuff off, so I need to, like, look at it. I get it.

00:39:07.594 --> 00:39:10.114
Okay, so we don't, so we're going to just say college prediction,

00:39:10.274 --> 00:39:13.834
and then we're going to gather the information, and we'll have this on,

00:39:13.834 --> 00:39:17.254
like, secretive notes on our phone. Got it. Okay.

00:39:17.734 --> 00:39:21.734
And we're going to say where we think that our three are going.

00:39:22.394 --> 00:39:29.474
Okay. And then we'll see if we were close or way off the mark.

00:39:29.654 --> 00:39:32.514
Got it. I put clown college down for Joey. Clown college.

00:39:32.814 --> 00:39:36.654
In an apartment with no furniture. In an apartment with no furniture.

00:39:38.994 --> 00:39:42.714
A TV and a folding chair and a mattress.

00:39:42.954 --> 00:39:45.854
That's what he's going to have. I'm like, oh, so you're going to be the guy

00:39:45.854 --> 00:39:47.734
from, what is that movie?

00:39:48.074 --> 00:39:52.734
American Psycho. American Psycho. yeah yeah so so for now we'll do that yeah

00:39:52.734 --> 00:39:56.954
that's fine for now the next steps are going to be like just waiting it out

00:39:56.954 --> 00:40:01.934
encouraging them winter sports season is upon us right so we're kind of going

00:40:01.934 --> 00:40:03.794
into it like our next sort of

00:40:03.794 --> 00:40:07.674
12 week chunk of the year and i'm sure that there is going to be a lot of.

00:40:10.646 --> 00:40:14.326
Continuing schoolwork because I know they all have some pretty rigorous classes.

00:40:14.786 --> 00:40:17.546
Yeah. Actually, all three of them are. They do. Yeah.

00:40:17.806 --> 00:40:24.186
Yeah. All three of them are, you know, taking all of their heavy academic stuff in the spring.

00:40:24.346 --> 00:40:30.586
Who knows? Maybe we can even get them on the show to help talk about it and reveal their choices.

00:40:30.966 --> 00:40:33.446
I think they will. I think they will. We didn't ask them this.

00:40:33.566 --> 00:40:35.486
My son would be like, I'm not doing that. He'll do it.

00:40:35.926 --> 00:40:38.666
He'll do it. I feel like he'll do it. he can come over

00:40:38.666 --> 00:40:42.306
here and do it there's only one way he'll do it and

00:40:42.306 --> 00:40:45.766
that's that's if you ask him hey i

00:40:45.766 --> 00:40:48.646
know he's probably gonna be like you didn't let drew go out

00:40:48.646 --> 00:40:55.606
after homecoming oh my oh because that's actually a great story because because

00:40:55.606 --> 00:41:00.266
it was and your reasoning was completely good like there was a band competition

00:41:00.266 --> 00:41:04.026
he had been sick all week like they weren't gonna go out so then my son Get

00:41:04.026 --> 00:41:06.426
up to go to school at 7 a.m.

00:41:06.526 --> 00:41:11.466
My son is texting Drew's mom, Miss Wonko, and saying, like, come on,

00:41:11.646 --> 00:41:13.586
just let him go. It's okay.

00:41:14.086 --> 00:41:17.346
I mean, what did they do? They went to, like, Chili's and ate late.

00:41:17.346 --> 00:41:19.466
I mean, he almost got me. He almost got me.

00:41:19.886 --> 00:41:23.906
My son? It was the hardest thing for me to say no to him. Not to my own son, to your son.

00:41:24.586 --> 00:41:26.726
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:29.211 --> 00:41:36.311
Oh that kid i mean it's such an exciting such an exciting time yeah all of them but it is,

00:41:37.351 --> 00:41:42.911
really emotional i mean just clicking the submit i was like are you unwell like

00:41:42.911 --> 00:41:48.711
are you he's like this this is a lot and it was like i i know but you can always

00:41:48.711 --> 00:41:53.671
add more to the list you know you can take you can't i mean you could take it

00:41:53.671 --> 00:41:56.891
back if you want you know you can like grab it back once you're,

00:41:57.051 --> 00:41:59.231
but you know, but I, I really do.

00:41:59.331 --> 00:42:06.811
I'm trying to go back to that moment back in way back in 1996 in the fall when

00:42:06.811 --> 00:42:11.271
I was doing all of these things and having to ask my mom for a check at,

00:42:11.271 --> 00:42:12.711
you know, all the things, right.

00:42:12.891 --> 00:42:18.531
So, and, uh, anyway, so I feel like it is an exciting time and we'll, we'll keep you posted.

00:42:18.711 --> 00:42:22.171
We know that we, um, we would like to have Jen come back on.

00:42:22.371 --> 00:42:26.031
And, and perhaps we can even have, um, cause, cause now we're going to be into

00:42:26.031 --> 00:42:29.571
scholarship and grant season, right? Cause that's like the next step.

00:42:29.811 --> 00:42:32.651
Yeah. That would be great to, yeah. I think that would be an awesome thing.

00:42:32.791 --> 00:42:35.271
So, and, and also please let us know if you're listening out there,

00:42:35.271 --> 00:42:39.091
if, if you know, there's questions you want us to ask you and we have her back

00:42:39.091 --> 00:42:41.731
on, like, we'd love to have some stuff from you guys too.

00:42:42.431 --> 00:42:47.651
Um, for sure. Yeah. So, uh, I mean, it's great to update everybody.

00:42:47.831 --> 00:42:50.631
It's, uh, it's still stressful. I still have hair. I

00:42:50.631 --> 00:42:53.591
haven't pulled it all out yet um i do

00:42:53.591 --> 00:42:56.471
i mean i think we should end this episode because i do have a date

00:42:56.471 --> 00:43:00.291
with a cow uh that i need to move over

00:43:00.291 --> 00:43:04.451
moving on okay um that

00:43:04.451 --> 00:43:07.091
was an awful callback but you know that that's gonna

00:43:07.091 --> 00:43:12.211
be that is gonna be the greatest cliff in podcast history you would know okay

00:43:12.211 --> 00:43:20.071
that's gonna go on the t-shirt absolutely absolutely ah yeah great stuff well

00:43:20.071 --> 00:43:26.871
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00:43:44.995 --> 00:43:49.175
Damn right. Yeah, sir. Yeah, we are rolling along. Mr.

00:43:49.375 --> 00:43:52.615
Vitale I appreciate you and all of your college

00:43:52.615 --> 00:43:59.955
experience and you know all the things sir all the things I appreciate you too

00:43:59.955 --> 00:44:05.515
friend even though uh you said I make out with cows like I don't know West Virginia

00:44:05.515 --> 00:44:08.815
it's hilly it's mooey it's yeah you never know there's a lot of farms there

00:44:08.815 --> 00:44:11.395
yeah it's true we were actually cow tippings.