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Sept. 8, 2026

Back to School, Teaching & Big Life Changes: What We’re Balancing in Season 4

Back to School, Teaching & Big Life Changes: What We’re Balancing in Season 4
The Balancing Act
Back to School, Teaching & Big Life Changes: What We’re Balancing in Season 4

In this episode we kick off season four from the New Jersey Hall of Fame and talk about recording in a new space, upcoming guests, and new opportunities connected to education and public policy. We also reflect on changes in our own lives over the summer, including empty nesting, grief, recovery, rest, and time with family.




We discuss the value of bringing students to the Hall of Fame and helping them connect New Jersey people and places to what they already know. We also imagine what would belong in a Teacher Hall of Fame, share thoughts on cafeteria duty and school supply lists, and talk about New Jersey food, culture, and the routines and priorities we are balancing now.

In this episode we kick off season four from the New Jersey Hall of Fame and talk about recording in a new space, upcoming guests, and new opportunities connected to education and public policy. We also reflect on changes in our own lives over the summer, including empty nesting, grief, recovery, rest, and time with family.

We discuss the value of bringing students to the Hall of Fame and helping them connect New Jersey people and places to what they already know. We also imagine what would belong in a Teacher Hall of Fame, share thoughts on cafeteria duty and school supply lists, and talk about New Jersey food, culture, and the routines and priorities we are balancing now.

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We'd like to thank our Season 4 presenting sponsor, Teacher's Insurance Plan,

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the auto insurance provider that was founded exclusively for educators.

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Joe Vitale.

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Well, hey, guess what? What? Isaac and Perry are officially recording.

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This looks a little different than it normally does. We are here.

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Welcome, welcome to season four of the Balancing Act podcast.

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I'm Jamie Wanko here with Joe Vitale. Hello, Mr. Vitale. Happy season four.

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Yeah. It also means we're heading back to the classroom very shortly, which, you know, tear.

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You'll have to put your flip-flops away for a little while. Yes. For a little while.

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I want to say never, but sadly, get those orthotics back and get your sneakers

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on. Yeah, but we are kicking off our season four in a very special place.

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And we want to thank the New Jersey Hall of Fame and Allie and everyone here

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on staff who's been setting up equipment and letting us use all this fancy schmancy

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recording with multiple cameras and amazing lighting. I mean, you look so good.

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And just the surroundings are... It'll highlight my little...

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Um, me cutting my face from shaving. It is not. On the way here,

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I said, Joe, did you eat an Uncrustable for breakfast?

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And he, cause he often does have an, he does. I mean, Uncrustables are delicious.

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And he said, no, I cut myself. I said, okay, good. I wanted to make sure that

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wasn't any grape jelly over there on your lip.

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I would never do you dirty like that. Yeah, I know. Just let you record.

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I just want to point it out so people know, you know, what's going on as,

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as my face for radio continues into season four.

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Um, but no, We're super excited to be able to use this space.

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The next couple episodes you'll see are actually going to be from here.

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We have some guests that we're going to have, and we're really doing a kickoff

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for the whole month of September of some amazing guests and talks that we're

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going to have. So we're really excited to bring that to you guys in season four. Absolutely.

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It's going to be a lot of fun. So, Joe. Hey.

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What's new with you? What's new with you? It's our new segment. What's new with you?

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So, yeah, we did a lot this summer. I mean, we were busy.

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For sure. Care to embellish. Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest thing for us is as a show.

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I went down to if you followed us on social media, I went down to Washington,

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D.C. I was invited to at the end of June.

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I got this email that I thought was fake. And I was like, where is this coming from?

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And I reached out to the person that it came from. And all of a sudden,

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we were invited to a creator day in Washington, D.C., where we were there with some additional.

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For teacher talk. Yeah, for teacher talk. There were some additional creators

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that were down there. People with way more followers than us on social media.

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Some of which you will see as guests on our show, which is really exciting.

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Yeah. Um, but we walked around the Capitol building and we got to tour some amazing spaces.

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Um, I was down there for just a day. Jamie was, um, away in a Disney world with

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her family on vacation. So that was the only bummer to this whole, um,

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to this whole thing was that I was there by myself and not with my co-host friend

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and partner and fellows. Not wife. Yes. Not wife.

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When I say partner in this. You would be surprised. Maybe you wouldn't be surprised

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how many people ask us if we're married. Miss, is that your husband?

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Yeah. The students at school. Yeah, they like to ask that. People,

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oh, is that your husband?

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No. Yeah, no. We should do the tech talk like, I am going to meet my husband.

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That's probably not the right words, but you know what that is?

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Yeah, I do vaguely. And then just walk past you.

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So I was super jealous that Joe got to, you know, hobnob on the hill.

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And all of a sudden they brought senators in for us to interview.

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And I'm like, why am I here? Why are you not here though?

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Exactly. Absolutely. But a lot of the conversation we've had,

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with many people that we've had on our show, we have talked about like legislation

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and how to make this profession more long-lasting for people that go into it,

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because we know there's a teacher shortage across the country.

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So we talked to a few people about their thoughts on that.

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There were some Democratic senators that came in.

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We actually got introduced to a staff member from Senator Andy Kim's office.

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A little spoiler alert for all our listeners. Senator Andy Kim did record an

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episode with us. We're going to have him on in a few weeks, which is...

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And what a nice guy. Yeah, really nice guy. At the same time,

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like we are a show that started from literally nothing. We were like,

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let's record a podcast sitting in your kitchen with one microphone and figuring out how to do this like.

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And we just interviewed a senator. Like, it's really cool to think about,

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like, where we started and where we are. Yes.

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And where we are. Absolutely. In this space. Yes.

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Was really cool. So that's, show-wise, that's probably the biggest piece of

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news for us, is that it's opened a lot of doors for us.

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Yes. We've talked to a lot of people already about being guests on the show.

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We have some book authors and things like that that we're going to be interviewing.

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So there's some really cool stuff that's coming for us in season four. So it's super exciting.

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Yes. Now, that is, you know, what's new with our show. Yes. What's new with you?

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Before I go into that, just real quick, we do have two sponsors that have come

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on again. We have Teacher's Insurance Plan, which you'll see them throughout our season four. Yeah.

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And also NJ School Jobs. And we want to thank them for investing in our show

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and helping us get ads out there and publicize ourselves more and stuff like that.

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So we just wanted to mention that. That's also good information about our show.

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What's new with us. And feeling all the support from they are so supportive.

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And we wouldn't be able to keep going if it wasn't for them.

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So I am officially an empty nester because both of my children are at college,

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which is kind of weird that it's just me and my wife.

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And it didn't hit me until I was like, hey, what do you want to have for dinner?

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And, like, I went and, like, I started cooking. And I'm like, wait a minute.

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I only have to cook for two people. I'm not cooking for four people.

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Like, it just, it never crossed my mind.

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And it was like, I don't need to make a whole box of pasta. I can make half a box of pasta. Right.

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You know, random things. And less opinions. Yeah. Because, you know, dinner. Yeah.

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My little Gordon Ramsay's. They're like, this is good. It's all right. It's okay. Yeah.

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No, that's been a period of adjustment. My kids, I feel, are thriving and enjoying

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themselves already down at school. They're freshmen at the College of New Jersey.

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We got all sorts of pictures of the things that they were doing during welcome week.

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And my son has been very busy. Like, we're like, oh, why did you go?

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Oh, well, I left class and then I met my friends for dinner and then we went

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to the gym. And now like there's people on my floor. We're going to have a movie

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night. I'm like, awesome. Good for you.

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So it's really, we're not sad. We're excited to see the journey that they're going to go on.

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Because like that's where my wife and I, that's where our journey started.

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Like we met there, we dated there, and now we're married and our kids are going

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back there. So it's just like a full circle moment for us.

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So yeah, that's the main thing, I guess. What's new with you,

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friend? What are we doing?

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So this was a happy hour summer for me. Yes, it was. What was your goal of the

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summer? To hit up as many happy hours as possible.

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And I feel really good about doing that.

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That sounds so terrible. It's not terrible. Not at all. It's just the truth.

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I did a lot of relaxing this summer, I have to say. Earlier,

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you were talking, I think you and Allie were saying how this summer felt the

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fastest of all summers. Yeah.

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And I have to say, for me, it felt as low and slow as a summer as I've had in

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a really long time. So I didn't have a lot of responsibility.

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So as a lot of our, you know, followers, listeners know, I lost my mom at the end of April.

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And so it has, you know, this summer's been really interesting because there's

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been a lot of grief, but also a lot of like recovery.

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And, you know, we, my mom required like such a deep level of care and it was

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just like all encompassing. Yeah.

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Having, you know, time is an interesting thing, right? Because you just you

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make time and you make space for the things that you need to.

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And sometimes when you get it back, you don't realize like how,

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you know, how it affected you in different ways.

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So we have been able to, you know, spend some time like really making sure that

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we're going out and living, enjoying, dancing, laughing and happy houring because, you know,

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that's what she would have wanted us to be doing.

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So, gosh, no one loved my mom used to go to a place on Long Beach Island and it was called the Jammy.

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OK. And it was her favorite. It was on Sundays. And these two guys would play

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like behind the bar and like it was interactive anyway.

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And so nobody loved a good afternoon happy hour more than my mom.

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So it's definitely been, you know.

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And as we've gotten older, the afternoon happy hour is way better than the late

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night go out to the bar fist pumping stuff. Well, nobody wants us late night. No.

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No, I know. But, you know, drinking, having a snack, four o'clock,

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five o'clock, you're in, you know, you're back home by seven.

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Yeah, a little golden hour. In your jams by eight. Come on. There's nothing better than that.

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You're a shirtless husband then making you drinks. That's the way it goes. I know.

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Talk about an intervention. He needs a shirtless intervention.

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You shouldn't be walking the neighborhood shirtless.

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I mean, you know. Come on. It's time. I said it.

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I said what I said. Don't walk the dog without your shirt on.

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Somebody in our neighborhood probably likes it, but it's not this funny.

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He is really walking the dog without a shirt. Okay, nice. That's good stuff.

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I can't believe I haven't told you. Oh, Jason.

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That is breaking news, everybody. Can we Can we get a banner?

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Breaking news? We'll put a banner on the bot.

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We got to hang out a little bit at the beach, our favorite beach,

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of course, in Long Beach Island.

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That was great. That was great. Our kids got to go out and have some fun.

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Went to the claw machine and got a whole bunch of seagulls and ducks, which is very exciting.

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So they had a good night out. That was fun for them.

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Didn't get to go down there as much as I would like to.

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It's just the way summer was. There's a lot of college prep and doing things

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and my kids working and stuff like that. And my son's leaving soon.

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He is going to Stockton. They have a very late start.

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Not that anybody really seems to mind, but it's so it's been nice.

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We have them a little bit longer than some of the other folks that have been

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dropping their kids off in August. So pretty excited about that.

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And, you know, so we'll see. It's going to be different.

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My girls did a lot of camps this summer and a lot of theater.

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So there was, you know, of course, still in my shofar era.

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So, you know, so all of those things were fantastic. But I can't,

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you know, I can't complain for the time that I had this summer because,

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you know, time is priceless.

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Yeah, I did focus on, you know, resetting myself. I did a lot of reading.

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Tried to stay active as much as possible. Yeah.

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You know, spent some time with my family. That's pretty much what we focused

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on for the summertime, which was great. That's a lot of new stuff. Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

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That's our new segment. We're starting out every show with, hey,

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what's new with you? What's new with you? Yeah, so when we talk to our guests,

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they can also tell us what's new with them. That's right.

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Yeah, so that's what we're jumping into. So what are we talking about next there, friend?

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What are we jumping into? So we are here at the New Jersey Hall of Fame.

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We are, yes. And we just did some karaoke. We did.

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Which was amazing. I mean, it was amazing for me. I'm not sure it was amazing

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for some of the people who had to listen. I can't pull off Whitney Houston.

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Nobody can. I know nobody can.

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There were points in her life when Whitney had kind of a hard time pulling off

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Whitney. You know what I mean? Very true. And she is Whitney. She's everything. Yes.

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Um everything she is everything that's a hard she is every woman um,

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oh my god that's a callback so she's amazing yeah we really part about being,

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old there's a lot of odd parts about being old and we'll talk about that clearly

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um but one of the um strange things is that,

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mentioning someone like Whitney Houston or many of the people that are here

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especially for us as history teachers is you assume, I still assume,

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and then I have to remind myself, like, you're old,

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is that you think that kids are going to know who some of these people are.

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So an environment like this is so immersive to really show them,

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not just, you know, the names in your classroom, but, like, get your kids here

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to be able to say, like, look at the pictures and look all around at some of

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these amazing and influential people from New Jersey. Yeah.

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And even Whitney. I mean, I bet you that there's probably a great majority of

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kids that have no idea who that is.

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Right. I think there is. They've heard some things. There's probably they'll

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probably eventually be some TikTok meme.

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Well, there's like, oh, my mom. I think my mom knew her. Yeah, exactly. Yes.

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So since we're here at the Hall of Fame, I think we should like say like if

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we had a teacher Hall of Fame, like the things that would be in a teacher Hall

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of Fame may not necessarily be people.

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Yes. But like in your teacher Hall of Fame, if you were to put some things in

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teacher Hall of Fame, what would you put in there? Because I have one off the

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top of my head. You go. You go first.

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The first thing I would put in my Teacher Hall of Fame is like, and it's an event, okay?

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It's pretty much a Friday or before break when that last bell rings and the

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kids have just left the building. And you could like take that deep breath and be like, okay.

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Yeah. Okay. And you could take that moment.

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There seems to be this like gorilla off your back release in that moment.

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And it's always very freeing. To me, that would be in my teacher hall of fame.

00:15:01.956 --> 00:15:06.666
Like that is, I don't know if other professions get that, that moment of release

00:15:06.666 --> 00:15:09.646
or that feeling where it's like, okay, I could take a little bit of a breath.

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And if you're the, you know, friend of a teacher or the spouse of a teacher,

00:15:14.446 --> 00:15:17.215
like you need to understand that that's a real thing.

00:15:17.732 --> 00:15:21.676
Yeah, of course it is. Yeah, that is something that would be on the Teacher

00:15:21.676 --> 00:15:25.186
Hall of Fame. There would be like some kind of display or like interactive activity

00:15:25.186 --> 00:15:29.366
where it would be like all the stress just releases you. And it's like birds

00:15:29.366 --> 00:15:32.703
and butterflies flying away and ocean waves crashing on the beach.

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Baby's laughing. Whatever it is that makes you happy.

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I think that's something that would be in my Teacher Hall of Fame.

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It's like that moment where you like feel that little bit of release.

00:15:44.606 --> 00:15:47.036
Like, OK, I could take a little bit of a breather now. Yes.

00:15:48.096 --> 00:15:51.076
And kind of reset myself because our job is very,

00:15:52.045 --> 00:15:55.033
much being on stage. Moment to moment.

00:15:55.033 --> 00:15:57.943
Moment to moment. Moment to moment. Yes. Of course. So when you asked me what

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would be my teacher hall of fame, I thought of like a best practice or something

00:16:01.353 --> 00:16:04.603
that I enjoy doing in my classroom. That could be too. And I'm going to throw

00:16:04.603 --> 00:16:08.002
this way back to the 1900s.

00:16:08.170 --> 00:16:13.012
Okay. And when I was doing my student teaching, I had a cooperating teacher.

00:16:13.302 --> 00:16:18.833
His name was John Simcero and he was fantastic. And he had this game and I still

00:16:18.833 --> 00:16:25.504
play it with the kids entering year 26 will still play it. And it is the most simple.

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And I have to say, year after year, it doesn't matter how much technology comes

00:16:31.243 --> 00:16:34.423
and goes or, you know, whatever is shiny and flashy at the moment,

00:16:34.423 --> 00:16:37.933
the list game is everything to everyone.

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So you have to get out a piece of paper, something to write with, and be ready.

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And I will give you a topic. And you have to list as many items fit in that

00:16:49.833 --> 00:16:55.237
category as you possibly can in 30 seconds. All right. Can you give us an example? Absolutely.

00:16:55.823 --> 00:16:57.577
Candy, not chocolate.

00:16:58.389 --> 00:17:01.588
Okay. Go. And then it would be Skittles.

00:17:03.109 --> 00:17:06.944
Sour Patch Kids. Very good. Yeah. Okay. And then after 30 seconds, stop.

00:17:08.354 --> 00:17:13.062
Count the number on your list. Stand up if you have more than 10. Stand up.

00:17:13.910 --> 00:17:18.025
So we do. And then we see who has and we sort of whittle it down to.

00:17:18.269 --> 00:17:21.636
And then whoever has the most has to read their list.

00:17:22.751 --> 00:17:26.988
And what do you win? Glory. Yeah. Glory. Kids do like to win glory.

00:17:27.441 --> 00:17:32.057
It's a good thing. What do we get? Glory. Yes. So I have to say that would be

00:17:32.057 --> 00:17:37.478
in my teacher hall of fame of that will never, it never disappoints.

00:17:37.739 --> 00:17:40.937
Now, sometimes there are some like more gender specific, you know,

00:17:40.937 --> 00:17:42.476
candy store goes for everybody.

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Sometimes if you do, if you throw in stores at the mall, oh,

00:17:46.867 --> 00:17:51.091
sometimes the boys get mad, you know, and then I'll say cars.

00:17:51.230 --> 00:17:55.057
Yeah. Oh, you know, things like that really go in many different directions.

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But it has never failed for those last, like, awkward two minutes when they

00:18:00.117 --> 00:18:03.188
start to get antsy and you're not really sure what to do.

00:18:03.605 --> 00:18:05.259
The list game every time. Yeah.

00:18:05.445 --> 00:18:10.857
Yeah. Um, I, hmm, what else would be in my Teacher Hall of Fame? Um...

00:18:13.114 --> 00:18:19.337
I would say, like, also, if you're, like, sitting in a faculty room.

00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:23.669
Yes. And you're, you know, having a great conversation with your coworkers and

00:18:23.669 --> 00:18:27.517
you're talking about something and everybody's laughing and jovial and having a good time,

00:18:28.863 --> 00:18:33.869
you know, sharing things about whether it be the job or, you know,

00:18:33.869 --> 00:18:37.646
bringing back a callback joke.

00:18:37.948 --> 00:18:41.699
Yeah. You know, that everybody, you know, brings up like one of our co-workers,

00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.679
loves the Scholastic Scope magazine. I won't say his name, but if anybody who's

00:18:45.679 --> 00:18:46.998
listening, you know who he is.

00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.639
And we always bring up like, oh, like he's probably like on the the wall of

00:18:52.639 --> 00:18:54.319
fame at the Scope building,

00:18:55.479 --> 00:18:58.699
because he has all of them like, you know, displayed in his room and he goes

00:18:58.699 --> 00:19:01.749
back to them all the time and stuff like that, which is a very good resource,

00:19:01.749 --> 00:19:03.239
by the way. Scope magazine sponsor us.

00:19:04.888 --> 00:19:07.339
But yeah that's something that definitely I would put back in there when you

00:19:07.339 --> 00:19:10.819
have those conversations with your co-workers and you know that you're connecting yes,

00:19:11.894 --> 00:19:16.379
because there's this feeling in our profession of like hey we're all in this

00:19:16.379 --> 00:19:20.099
together you know what I mean yeah if you're doing it right you're not doing

00:19:20.099 --> 00:19:24.039
it alone yes my daughters have recently introduced a new,

00:19:24.950 --> 00:19:30.679
their mantra and they said we didn't make it up mom we just really like it okay

00:19:30.679 --> 00:19:34.539
we're complainers we're not quitters And I think.

00:19:36.059 --> 00:19:37.319
It's fantastic.

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And I'm sort of like, that's the energy, you know, that you can bring.

00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.819
We're complainers, not quitters. So I was talking to one of my teacher friends,

00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.929
this week, and she was talking about her new schedule and the difficulty of

00:19:48.929 --> 00:19:51.579
the schedule, just how tough everything is going to be.

00:19:51.939 --> 00:19:55.239
And, you know, as someone who has to be in multiple classrooms,

00:19:55.619 --> 00:19:59.913
out of home space and traveling around and how hard that can be. And I said...

00:20:01.045 --> 00:20:04.045
And she kind of said to me, oh, I'm complaining so much.

00:20:04.045 --> 00:20:07.395
I'm so sorry. I'm complaining so much. I said, no, we're talking.

00:20:07.395 --> 00:20:11.585
You're getting out your feelings. You're explaining to me and you're complaining.

00:20:11.585 --> 00:20:15.415
You're complaining, but you're not quitting. And I think that that is so true

00:20:15.415 --> 00:20:19.005
of, you know, and a lot of people will say, oh, stay out of the teacher's room.

00:20:19.425 --> 00:20:25.083
But sometimes it is so cathartic to share your experience and have someone else

00:20:25.344 --> 00:20:30.533
see you and feel what you're going through and tell you, like, yeah, it's okay.

00:20:30.876 --> 00:20:33.025
And we're going to complain, but we're not going to quit. And I do,

00:20:33.405 --> 00:20:35.345
you know, I enjoy that sort of vibe.

00:20:35.645 --> 00:20:40.739
You know, that is pretty good. So what else would be in your Hall of Fame?

00:20:40.901 --> 00:20:49.307
My Hall of Fame, I will say, is also I love a theme day for like simple theme. Okay.

00:20:49.510 --> 00:20:52.525
Like I love a school spirit day. Oh, yeah.

00:20:53.145 --> 00:20:56.045
I am. We've talked about this before. Yeah, 100%. And I actually,

00:20:56.705 --> 00:20:59.705
I just got a new steamer. What's new with you? I got a new steamer.

00:21:00.605 --> 00:21:03.365
And I, you know, it's like my dad says, like, your generation,

00:21:03.765 --> 00:21:06.342
you all told each other that ironing is not important.

00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:10.951
Oh. And you all agreed on it together. And so you're all wrinkled.

00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:14.707
Which is, you know, it's like a, you know, when you're 80, you say what you want, right?

00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:18.095
So he's like, you all came up with this agreement together. He's not wrong, right?

00:21:18.095 --> 00:21:21.435
I mean, we are a bit of a, you know, he, steam press.

00:21:21.435 --> 00:21:24.345
But I don't let, he's right. I don't want to iron. It's wrinkle-free clothing.

00:21:24.345 --> 00:21:26.895
It's right. So, yeah. And he's, oh, you say it's wrinkle-free,

00:21:26.895 --> 00:21:29.355
but is it really? And it's like, now I question everything, right?

00:21:29.355 --> 00:21:33.535
Yeah. So, anyway, I was steaming up my Panthers, Panthers, Panthers,

00:21:33.535 --> 00:21:35.107
Panthers, Panthers shirt. Yeah.

00:21:35.506 --> 00:21:39.274
And I can't wait to have a good old-fashioned...

00:21:40.051 --> 00:21:43.344
Dress down we don't have to think about what we're wearing you don't have to

00:21:43.344 --> 00:21:48.695
worry about it and the kids come in and they're you know i love that culture,

00:21:49.314 --> 00:21:53.674
part of a school yeah and how important that can be um and what that means to

00:21:53.994 --> 00:21:57.194
the staff what that means to the kids and so in my hall of fame it's like those

00:21:57.194 --> 00:22:01.544
moments when um you have you know some sort of even grade level competition

00:22:01.544 --> 00:22:06.094
or a color war or something like that where you feel like the pride bursting

00:22:06.414 --> 00:22:10.154
yeah we've done like twin day before and sometimes you have like a student that

00:22:10.154 --> 00:22:11.814
dresses up like the teacher for the day,

00:22:12.514 --> 00:22:14.854
which is always fun where the kids match together.

00:22:15.854 --> 00:22:19.414
But even if it's not complicated I like that school spirit of everything.

00:22:19.414 --> 00:22:25.474
Last year I unfortunately got the flu during our winter one where we were having

00:22:25.474 --> 00:22:29.074
like we had like dressed like a movie Christmas movie character,

00:22:29.574 --> 00:22:33.584
and everyone was like the Grinch and everything else so I had made thank you

00:22:33.584 --> 00:22:36.314
chat GPT movie posters for.

00:22:38.262 --> 00:22:42.053
A hallmark made for TV movie called Pine and Punishment,

00:22:42.554 --> 00:22:48.394
where a big city lawyer who was my wife goes back to a small town and falls

00:22:48.394 --> 00:22:51.492
in love with a Christmas tree farmer and finds the true meaning of Christmas.

00:22:51.921 --> 00:22:54.884
I was the Christmas tree farmer. So like I was going to be hanging the posters

00:22:54.884 --> 00:22:59.994
up around the room the week before and then dressed up as the guy who was on the poster. Yeah.

00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.654
And then, of course, I got the flu and was out for a couple of days and it completely got ruined.

00:23:04.654 --> 00:23:09.194
But the best part was when I sent the poster to our secretary to like blow it

00:23:09.194 --> 00:23:13.164
up and laminate it. She's like, what are you doing in class that you need this?

00:23:13.164 --> 00:23:15.844
I'm like, it's not for class. And here's what it's for. And she's just like,

00:23:15.844 --> 00:23:18.774
there's something wrong with you. I'm like, it's for funsies.

00:23:19.554 --> 00:23:23.836
So I was, you know, I was the love interest in pine and punishment.

00:23:24.521 --> 00:23:27.665
Maybe they'll have that again just for you. I mean, I would hope so. Yes.

00:23:28.405 --> 00:23:31.735
I do love a good theme day. They're always fun. So tell me, what do you think

00:23:31.735 --> 00:23:37.495
specifically about, let's go, we're going to go like really into New Jersey.

00:23:37.495 --> 00:23:43.295
Yeah. Right? And be just prideful for our wonderful state here in this environment.

00:23:43.295 --> 00:23:51.340
Tell me, what do you think is like the best New Jersey food?

00:23:52.001 --> 00:23:54.405
The best New Jersey food. Do you want me to give you some?

00:23:55.145 --> 00:24:01.805
No. No? Okay. No. I mean, I'm going to go pizza. I'd put our pizza up against anyone anywhere.

00:24:03.245 --> 00:24:06.155
You know, New York has its thing. I know that New Haven, Connecticut is like

00:24:06.155 --> 00:24:10.425
a big deal. It's like a different style. I have not. I want to because I'm sure I would like it. Yeah.

00:24:11.085 --> 00:24:15.418
Well, he would definitely try it. Yeah, definitely. I try all the things, as we know.

00:24:16.962 --> 00:24:22.165
But yeah, it's 100%. That'd be me. It's It's pizza, I think, without a doubt.

00:24:22.165 --> 00:24:25.765
No doubt pizza. Yeah, I think so, because I think it holds up wherever you go.

00:24:25.765 --> 00:24:30.226
And like when, you know, I have a friend of mine who moved out to Indiana and

00:24:30.482 --> 00:24:34.425
they're like, they come back and they eat pizza like four of the five nights

00:24:34.425 --> 00:24:36.054
that they're here at different places.

00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:41.058
They just it's just one of those things that like if you grew up having it,

00:24:41.523 --> 00:24:45.535
that's what you want. Or when people move away, that's what they look for.

00:24:45.535 --> 00:24:48.155
They try to find, oh, I want to find the place that has, you know,

00:24:48.155 --> 00:24:50.143
I lived in Pennsylvania for a little while.

00:24:50.311 --> 00:24:52.975
You were trying to find a pizza place that was like the pizza place.

00:24:52.975 --> 00:24:56.481
You were just chasing it. Yeah, you were chasing it, but you never achieved it. No.

00:24:57.425 --> 00:25:01.334
It just was never the same. There were places that were good, but it was never like.

00:25:01.845 --> 00:25:06.445
The thing. The same. The thing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Getting a slice and sitting

00:25:06.445 --> 00:25:09.467
at a little pizza place for lunch in an afternoon.

00:25:10.094 --> 00:25:17.089
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I would have to say the tomato. Okay.

00:25:17.965 --> 00:25:22.017
The Jersey tomato. The Jersey tomato. Is absolutely...

00:25:23.242 --> 00:25:27.877
What's gonna get to your pizza yeah don't you think and it's like hand in hand

00:25:27.877 --> 00:25:31.462
in hand yep yeah and also in my younger days,

00:25:32.170 --> 00:25:40.332
diner culture oh yes okay and i'm gonna i'm gonna specifically go round the way yep to,

00:25:41.313 --> 00:25:46.479
my husband who um for a very long time um guarded,

00:25:47.698 --> 00:25:52.907
the uh drinkers of new jersey yes he did uh keeping them safe as a bouncer with

00:25:52.907 --> 00:25:54.261
a shirt though with a capital b,

00:25:55.087 --> 00:25:58.477
with a shirt not without a shirt he did have a shirt on then um but we used

00:25:58.477 --> 00:26:01.727
to go sometimes i would pick him up um,

00:26:02.272 --> 00:26:08.497
at you know 3 a.m yeah and we would hit up a diner yep and so my number one

00:26:08.497 --> 00:26:12.344
diner order would be okay 3 a.m.

00:26:14.544 --> 00:26:17.571
Belgian waffle. Belgian waffle, yeah. With chocolate ice cream.

00:26:17.571 --> 00:26:19.591
Oh, goodness. And then syrup. Oh, my God.

00:26:22.631 --> 00:26:27.031
Wow. I've been avoiding diabetes since. As long as I can remember.

00:26:27.491 --> 00:26:30.049
That's an order. What is your...

00:26:30.834 --> 00:26:34.511
Do you have like a diner order? Well, we know how I like to try all things.

00:26:34.531 --> 00:26:37.151
Late night diner and daytime diner.

00:26:37.551 --> 00:26:42.989
Yeah. Are not the same diner. Correct. Okay. But it would normally be like breakfast.

00:26:43.110 --> 00:26:47.641
Be like a like like any time yeah like eggs hash browns bacon that kind of thing

00:26:47.641 --> 00:26:48.971
is what you would get at like 3 a.m.

00:26:48.971 --> 00:26:52.911
If you went out somewhere um you know the famous disco fries right the cheese

00:26:52.911 --> 00:26:56.646
and gravy which i was like a fan of but i wouldn't go out of my way,

00:26:57.419 --> 00:27:02.571
to get that um okay but yeah it's uh but diner culture is like a big deal it's

00:27:02.571 --> 00:27:05.201
a very big deal and you don't see it there's a lot of them that have closed

00:27:05.201 --> 00:27:07.229
down like if you can find a good one

00:27:07.537 --> 00:27:11.652
yes i wanted to have my rehearsal dinner for my wedding at a diner really yes

00:27:11.803 --> 00:27:16.871
we used to go to a diner when when we were dating for uh we would go every single week and

00:27:17.291 --> 00:27:20.901
i we asked we even approached them and they were like we really don't do we

00:27:20.901 --> 00:27:24.171
don't do parties like that that would have been fun,

00:27:24.831 --> 00:27:29.031
yeah that would have been completely different yeah um oh wow yeah yeah that

00:27:29.031 --> 00:27:30.591
would have been a good time yeah um.

00:27:31.953 --> 00:27:35.012
Yeah, for sure. I mean, there's there's I mean, I know we're talking about,

00:27:35.012 --> 00:27:37.612
you know, Teacher Hall of Fame and New Jersey Hall of Fame.

00:27:37.612 --> 00:27:40.522
And like there's we're talking about items, different stuff like that.

00:27:40.522 --> 00:27:45.282
But like our state has so much to offer, which is something we're going to,

00:27:45.282 --> 00:27:46.552
you know, continue to talk about.

00:27:46.552 --> 00:27:49.682
Of course. Yeah. And it's something I teach about in class a lot,

00:27:50.582 --> 00:27:55.042
specifically with the question of like, what are the geographical features of,

00:27:55.342 --> 00:27:56.602
you know, particular place?

00:27:57.162 --> 00:28:03.090
And geographical features becomes a difficult term for them to understand.

00:28:03.702 --> 00:28:09.592
But in New Jersey, it's where else can you, you know, ski and swim and ocean

00:28:09.592 --> 00:28:14.442
and lake and mountain and, you know, they're at farmland and there's so many.

00:28:14.442 --> 00:28:16.482
So I think we sometimes get a lot of flack.

00:28:17.202 --> 00:28:22.122
But if you really think about just how unique a place New Jersey is. Yeah.

00:28:22.482 --> 00:28:25.492
Yeah. And even the fact that, like, I'm looking at this wall behind us here,

00:28:26.522 --> 00:28:30.362
and all of the icons that are behind us here, many of which have, you know.

00:28:32.458 --> 00:28:36.012
Rest stops named after them. Yes. And I'm looking at one, like you mentioned

00:28:36.012 --> 00:28:37.990
before, about like the kids not knowing someone.

00:28:38.234 --> 00:28:43.262
And I see Frank Sinatra over there, which I grew up with listening as my mom

00:28:43.262 --> 00:28:50.422
grew up in the Italian section of Newark and has every one of the original records on vinyl. Wow.

00:28:50.902 --> 00:28:54.872
And used to play, you know, had like a record player and would play all the

00:28:54.872 --> 00:28:58.614
music. And, um, I think we played, cause,

00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:03.523
In between classes, instead of bells, we have music that plays in our building.

00:29:03.523 --> 00:29:05.092
And one time it was Frank Sinatra.

00:29:05.743 --> 00:29:08.203
And the kids were like, I don't know who has that. I had to like,

00:29:08.203 --> 00:29:10.920
I showed them a picture. And then I talked a little bit about the story.

00:29:11.216 --> 00:29:14.357
And then we tried to like relate it to them and talked a little bit about like

00:29:14.786 --> 00:29:19.603
boy bands and like, you know, One Direction and NSYNC. I was like,

00:29:19.603 --> 00:29:21.423
this guy was like. And then they were like, who? Yeah.

00:29:21.843 --> 00:29:25.103
I was like showing them all the pictures. But I was like, this guy is like a teen heartthrob. Yeah.

00:29:25.463 --> 00:29:29.163
This guy was like the big band singing in front of everybody.

00:29:29.163 --> 00:29:32.294
Like, you know, charismatic, dressed in a suit.

00:29:32.642 --> 00:29:37.693
Like, it was just. My fourth grade New Jersey project was Frank Sinatra.

00:29:37.693 --> 00:29:39.272
I remember that so vividly.

00:29:39.487 --> 00:29:43.933
And fun, fun little fact, my very favorite Christmas song, because everybody

00:29:43.933 --> 00:29:46.839
knows Christmas is my jam, my jelly and my marmalade. Yeah.

00:29:47.141 --> 00:29:49.453
Is Christmas Waltz by Frank Sinatra. Oh, yeah. That's a good one.

00:29:49.453 --> 00:29:51.943
That is my absolute favorite. But no, there's so many. Like,

00:29:51.943 --> 00:29:54.753
I'm looking over here. Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen. Like,

00:29:54.753 --> 00:29:57.703
just musicians alone. Yes. Is Connie Chung over there?

00:29:58.943 --> 00:30:02.283
I don't think so, but she is, I think she was inducted. Somewhere in here?

00:30:02.283 --> 00:30:03.083
Yeah, somewhere in here.

00:30:03.403 --> 00:30:09.143
But there's so many people, you know, icons of music and stage and screen and,

00:30:09.743 --> 00:30:13.542
politics and all the things. Yes, absolutely.

00:30:13.973 --> 00:30:19.803
That New Jersey has to offer. So it's really cool. Maybe we'll be in here one day. Podcasters.

00:30:20.945 --> 00:30:24.451
I doubt it. Okay, I heard crickets when I said that from the audience.

00:30:25.243 --> 00:30:29.153
Dream big. Yeah, I mean, of course. I would never tell you not to say.

00:30:29.153 --> 00:30:34.122
I mean, we didn't know we'd be interviewing a senator. And now here we are. That's right.

00:30:34.807 --> 00:30:38.883
Yeah. So let's go to unpopular opinions.

00:30:38.883 --> 00:30:41.747
Okay. Here we go. Yeah, I knew this was coming. This is going to be,

00:30:42.963 --> 00:30:50.423
the responses are agree, disagree. Okay. Or I'm going to need my union rep. Your union rep?

00:30:50.463 --> 00:30:53.038
You're going to call HR? No. Okay. Got it. Okay. All right.

00:30:54.849 --> 00:30:57.495
You ready? I'm ready. Okay. Cafeteria

00:30:57.495 --> 00:31:02.982
duty is enjoyable, and it's just not that big of a deal. I agree.

00:31:04.897 --> 00:31:09.628
I don't mind it. I really don't. Okay. I did. There's one year I did mind it. Okay.

00:31:10.681 --> 00:31:16.739
Because schools are crowded and the cafeteria has a stage.

00:31:17.163 --> 00:31:20.031
And on the stage was the dance class. Yes.

00:31:20.041 --> 00:31:23.451
She pulled the curtain closed. Yes. And do her dance class on the stage.

00:31:23.451 --> 00:31:25.458
Okay. And have music because the kids are dancing. Right.

00:31:25.858 --> 00:31:30.501
And between the music and the kids, not that it was excessively loud,

00:31:30.501 --> 00:31:34.032
but like I don't do well with like multiple noises.

00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:37.492
Joe is also a perimenopausal woman. Yes, I am.

00:31:39.476 --> 00:31:43.381
It's very true. I'm going to start the men's group of the We Do Not Care Club.

00:31:45.221 --> 00:31:47.891
And then the women said, we don't care. We don't care. Yes, we don't care what

00:31:47.891 --> 00:31:49.820
you do. But we just don't care.

00:31:51.486 --> 00:31:56.251
I actually did a little bit of research. I wound up getting earplugs by a company

00:31:56.251 --> 00:32:01.171
called Loop that would lower the decibels a little bit and allow me to be able

00:32:01.171 --> 00:32:02.401
to focus a little bit better.

00:32:02.401 --> 00:32:05.671
I actually could hear better. That's a great idea. Yeah. So I decided,

00:32:05.671 --> 00:32:09.891
let me try that because it would just set me off in different ways that I wasn't

00:32:09.891 --> 00:32:13.661
able to, not that I wasn't able to manage it. It just became a little bit more challenging.

00:32:15.501 --> 00:32:18.501
But honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Like, as long as you have,

00:32:18.501 --> 00:32:22.676
again, a team of teachers that are all on the same page that are holding the kids accountable.

00:32:24.273 --> 00:32:28.761
I agree. You could have conversations with them. Yeah. You agree as well. I do agree. Okay. Yes.

00:32:29.141 --> 00:32:33.951
So I think that's an unpopular opinion, though. Yes. Yeah. Because I think most

00:32:33.951 --> 00:32:35.921
people are like, ugh, cafeteria duty. That's right. Yes.

00:32:37.181 --> 00:32:40.543
I have a couple non-negotiables, though. Okay. I'm not cleaning up after you.

00:32:41.228 --> 00:32:45.384
Oh, yes. And I have a huge problem with kids that leave messes behind.

00:32:45.901 --> 00:32:48.361
Like, you're cleaning up after yourself. Absolutely. I don't want to hear,

00:32:48.361 --> 00:32:49.621
well, what's the janitor's job?

00:32:50.041 --> 00:32:52.761
Don't you dare. No, no. Like, you are to clean up after yourself.

00:32:52.761 --> 00:32:55.711
That's right. And be a human being and not leave messes. Yes.

00:32:56.121 --> 00:33:01.650
You would be amazed, appalled, perhaps, at the amount of children,

00:33:02.201 --> 00:33:05.232
middle school children, that don't know how to sweep.

00:33:06.045 --> 00:33:11.427
Oh, yeah. Like they don't know how to hold the broom. Yeah. That is a...

00:33:12.767 --> 00:33:16.224
So we've had a lot of lessons. Our school asks them if, you know,

00:33:16.224 --> 00:33:20.894
if you throw something, you drop something, you're going to sweep it yourself. Yeah.

00:33:21.194 --> 00:33:26.369
And I actually think for Discovery Day this year, I'm going to have a sweeping class.

00:33:26.647 --> 00:33:29.074
It's a good idea. Thank you. You should do that. Me and John,

00:33:29.074 --> 00:33:32.704
the janitor at our school in Ed, they love that idea. You should do the big

00:33:32.704 --> 00:33:36.234
push broom too, I think needs some work. But they can't hold the dust.

00:33:37.101 --> 00:33:40.816
Yeah. What's it called? The dustpan. The dustpan. Yeah. Thank you.

00:33:41.902 --> 00:33:46.974
And sweep at the same time. That's right. It's amazing. Yeah.

00:33:46.974 --> 00:33:50.254
So I have some non-negotiables when I'm in there. Okay. It's like you're going

00:33:50.254 --> 00:33:52.254
to clean up after yourself. You're going to be a human being.

00:33:53.634 --> 00:33:57.564
And there's one more. What do we think? What's that? One more unpopular opinion.

00:33:57.564 --> 00:34:00.803
Oh, there's one more. That school supply lists are out of control.

00:34:02.376 --> 00:34:03.188
What do you think?

00:34:05.014 --> 00:34:10.056
I disagree. Me too. Disagree. At this point, yeah. Disagree.

00:34:10.950 --> 00:34:14.794
At the middle school level, I would disagree. Maybe I, my kids haven't been

00:34:14.794 --> 00:34:18.415
in elementary school in a long time. I don't know what an elementary school. Disagree.

00:34:18.925 --> 00:34:20.854
I don't know what an elementary school class list looks like.

00:34:21.074 --> 00:34:26.544
I have never met an elementary school teacher that would withhold something

00:34:26.544 --> 00:34:29.189
from a child that wasn't able to get it.

00:34:29.706 --> 00:34:34.414
Correct. And if you are an elementary school teacher, middle school teacher,

00:34:35.394 --> 00:34:38.634
I wouldn't imagine high school ever really needs to do this.

00:34:38.634 --> 00:34:43.931
But, you know, if that teacher is asking you for a box of tissues,

00:34:45.325 --> 00:34:51.874
some Lysol wipes, Clorox wipes, and extra notebooks, and they're putting them

00:34:51.874 --> 00:34:56.644
away for the greater good of the room for like those deep, dark days of January

00:34:56.644 --> 00:34:59.198
when everybody is sneezing all over the place. Mm-hmm.

00:35:00.684 --> 00:35:05.612
And it is not a financial hardship for your family, do it. Okay.

00:35:05.757 --> 00:35:08.224
Right? Or buy and buy extra.

00:35:09.124 --> 00:35:12.119
Buy extra and help them out. Yeah.

00:35:12.636 --> 00:35:17.739
Because the amount of teachers that, including the two of us sitting here,

00:35:18.157 --> 00:35:23.218
that purchase things for the students, for the class in underfunded classrooms

00:35:23.218 --> 00:35:27.241
is outrageous. And it's so common.

00:35:27.770 --> 00:35:32.898
For sure. So to say the supply list is out of control is, to me,

00:35:32.898 --> 00:35:34.311
it's an insult to teachers.

00:35:34.566 --> 00:35:38.448
It is insinuating that they are not contributing or, and it's really just,

00:35:38.448 --> 00:35:41.219
no, the classroom is underfunded.

00:35:41.590 --> 00:35:45.588
Yeah, I think there's a lot of there's I wouldn't say there's a movement,

00:35:45.588 --> 00:35:47.726
but there's a good amount of people on.

00:35:50.135 --> 00:35:53.608
Teachers on social media who are posting information and saying,

00:35:53.608 --> 00:35:57.159
like, I'm just not doing it. I'm not I'm not buying the extra stuff.

00:35:57.628 --> 00:36:01.678
If you want your child to have it, you have to send it in with them because

00:36:01.678 --> 00:36:05.648
a lot of them are are starting to make those decisions because and it's it's

00:36:05.648 --> 00:36:11.114
a trickle down effect. Right. I want to get into the semantics and the politics of everything, but.

00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:17.431
You know, we do get health benefits. We're contributing more to those health benefits every year.

00:36:17.930 --> 00:36:21.967
Some of us may be getting an increase in our salary, but then the increase in

00:36:21.967 --> 00:36:24.687
the amount of payment for premiums that we have to make for our health care

00:36:24.687 --> 00:36:26.967
insurance cancels those two things out.

00:36:27.267 --> 00:36:31.681
So many teachers go year after year after year with no financial,

00:36:32.012 --> 00:36:35.872
no or very little financial increase.

00:36:36.012 --> 00:36:37.987
So many of them are saying, like, I don't have it.

00:36:38.287 --> 00:36:41.613
Like, I just don't have it. Not independently wealthy. Yeah.

00:36:41.828 --> 00:36:46.147
So if everyone could contribute, I just don't think that there's a misuse of

00:36:46.147 --> 00:36:51.790
those extra supplies, like a roll of paper towels or, you know.

00:36:52.507 --> 00:36:54.247
Certain markers or something like that.

00:36:54.247 --> 00:36:57.877
Yeah, like I think about your class, too. You do like creations and projects

00:36:57.877 --> 00:37:03.847
and art things and stuff like that. And I'm sure it becomes very worthwhile

00:37:03.847 --> 00:37:08.307
for kids to send in the extra stuff. And they do. They do. They do.

00:37:08.767 --> 00:37:12.622
Have you ever thought, I work in education. Why is finding a job so weirdly hard?

00:37:12.895 --> 00:37:16.407
Yeah, scrolling through random job boards where half the listings don't even

00:37:16.407 --> 00:37:18.247
make sense is not the vibe.

00:37:18.421 --> 00:37:21.626
That's why njschooljobs.com actually makes sense.

00:37:21.985 --> 00:37:25.347
It's a job board built specifically for New Jersey schools, public,

00:37:25.347 --> 00:37:28.947
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00:37:28.947 --> 00:37:32.527
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00:37:32.527 --> 00:37:35.198
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00:37:35.482 --> 00:37:39.097
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00:37:39.097 --> 00:37:43.137
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00:37:43.137 --> 00:37:44.956
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00:37:45.089 --> 00:37:49.277
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00:37:49.277 --> 00:37:51.399
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00:37:51.771 --> 00:37:55.805
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00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.923
Head to njschooljobs.com.

00:38:00.044 --> 00:38:04.723
They do. Yeah. They do. Yeah. So to end today.

00:38:04.868 --> 00:38:09.907
Yeah. Mr. Vitale, what are you balancing this week? Um...

00:38:12.235 --> 00:38:15.719
I think the main thing that I'm, that I'm balancing is like the,

00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.059
the new space that I'm in, uh, with my wife at home.

00:38:19.059 --> 00:38:22.805
Right. I'm balancing, um, you know, being an empty nester, uh,

00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:30.499
figuring out, um, that space between the two of us and also like giving my children

00:38:30.499 --> 00:38:32.229
the space that they need to be independent.

00:38:32.229 --> 00:38:35.879
Like we were joking on the way here, like, hey, my son finally returned some

00:38:35.879 --> 00:38:37.739
of my text messages. That's why I'm talking to you, Joey.

00:38:40.040 --> 00:38:42.749
But, you know, but they're they're doing things and they're busy and they're

00:38:42.749 --> 00:38:45.787
not out partying and, you know, going out late at night.

00:38:46.979 --> 00:38:49.169
They're doing all the things that a new college student should.

00:38:49.169 --> 00:38:52.239
So I'm just navigating that new space and trying to balance that on my own,

00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:56.248
all while also closing out the summertime.

00:38:56.451 --> 00:38:59.599
Getting into that back to school groove. Getting into that back to school groove. Yeah.

00:39:00.299 --> 00:39:06.159
And making sure that we have systems set up for success to be able to balance all of this.

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.675
But I'm looking, you know, I'm trying to look ahead and look at my schedule,

00:39:09.296 --> 00:39:15.969
and see like, you know, I'm going to have a little bit more time to like organize

00:39:15.969 --> 00:39:20.186
things a little bit better in my life, too. Sure. And then get another dog.

00:39:21.695 --> 00:39:22.460
So anyway.

00:39:25.100 --> 00:39:28.900
Season four is now over. We've had a good run. I am not getting another dog,

00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:31.380
although my wife wants to get another dog.

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.652
I have two Golden Retrievers, and she wants to get a third, and no. Maybe. No.

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:43.390
We'll see. We will keep you updated. Yeah. What are you balancing,

00:39:43.390 --> 00:39:45.820
friend? What are you— I am balancing.

00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:50.310
So I have some goals. You know, I like to do the beginning of the school year

00:39:50.310 --> 00:39:52.008
for me is really the year.

00:39:52.374 --> 00:39:55.300
Yes. Like some people make their nearest resolutions in January.

00:39:55.300 --> 00:39:57.905
I like to make them, you know, in the beginning of the school year.

00:39:58.201 --> 00:40:03.013
And so I would say I'm going to be balancing, prioritizing myself.

00:40:03.489 --> 00:40:09.960
Great idea for you. Going back to, I joined Pilates. Oh.

00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.220
So, you know, watch out. I may start carrying you around because I'm going to

00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:17.845
be so strong. I know. Okay. I'm just going to fire him and carry you.

00:40:18.629 --> 00:40:22.750
I love that. I love that for you. I love that for you. That's good stuff.

00:40:23.941 --> 00:40:29.182
And just slowing down. I think the same. Yeah. I think it's going to be good

00:40:29.182 --> 00:40:34.202
for my nervous system. I think I recently spent some time with a friend who,

00:40:34.682 --> 00:40:38.686
is someone who is a stop and smell the roses human being.

00:40:39.139 --> 00:40:44.482
And spending some time with her and her family has given me this perspective

00:40:44.482 --> 00:40:47.951
of like, where are you going? Like, where are you rushing to?

00:40:48.229 --> 00:40:54.772
Yeah. And so I'm going to really try to prioritize, like, the slow and sort

00:40:54.772 --> 00:40:58.456
of enjoying, you know, my girls are entering high school.

00:40:58.718 --> 00:41:03.612
The last four years have been crazy for me. And I'd like to try to have,

00:41:03.612 --> 00:41:09.103
like, a more calm going forward. And that starts with me.

00:41:09.300 --> 00:41:13.552
And I think if I'm calm, then everybody else around me can feel it as well.

00:41:13.552 --> 00:41:17.602
I feel the exact same way. It pays dividends for you in your job, too. Yeah.

00:41:17.942 --> 00:41:22.007
Um, you know, it's a lot to be managing, you know, and that's why we hope that,

00:41:22.495 --> 00:41:25.717
you know, our show continues to help as many people as possible and put,

00:41:26.257 --> 00:41:29.803
um, the idea of setting boundaries for yourself.

00:41:30.198 --> 00:41:35.502
And, you know, one of the guests that we, um, uh, just had on that we recorded

00:41:35.502 --> 00:41:39.062
with for an episode that'll be coming up talked about like, you know, when you're doing.

00:41:39.649 --> 00:41:42.562
When you're, when you're shutting off work mode and you're putting yourself

00:41:42.562 --> 00:41:45.964
in parent mode, that allows you to be focused more in that area.

00:41:46.255 --> 00:41:49.862
And, like, you know, I love being a parent.

00:41:49.862 --> 00:41:52.872
I love every moment with my children and doing things.

00:41:52.872 --> 00:41:58.572
But there are also, like, things that I miss about myself that you kind of put

00:41:58.572 --> 00:42:00.782
aside when you put yourself in that role.

00:42:00.782 --> 00:42:03.744
I know this is going to seem ridiculous, but, like, you know,

00:42:03.848 --> 00:42:09.317
me going out on a Thursday afternoon and playing golf in the fall by myself,

00:42:09.868 --> 00:42:13.293
listening to music, closing down a course as the sun is going down.

00:42:15.105 --> 00:42:21.265
That's like an epic feeling for me, you know, but it also allows me to be like, enjoy that moment.

00:42:21.605 --> 00:42:24.205
I've missed that because like you're busy and you're doing things that goes

00:42:24.205 --> 00:42:27.063
on the wayside. But I'm hoping to get back to little things like that.

00:42:27.405 --> 00:42:31.614
You know, having a drink in my backyard and enjoying myself.

00:42:32.785 --> 00:42:37.385
Date nights with my wife, like little things like that, that we like have put

00:42:37.385 --> 00:42:41.345
aside because we've so long been in parent mode. We're still parents. Yes.

00:42:41.765 --> 00:42:47.075
But I think we'll have time to reconnect and really do things together with

00:42:47.075 --> 00:42:51.085
two dogs and one with two dogs only.

00:42:51.925 --> 00:42:54.885
Well, Mr. Vitale, I appreciate you. I appreciate you, too, friend.

00:42:54.885 --> 00:42:58.775
And I'm really excited about what we're going to be doing this season.

00:42:58.775 --> 00:43:03.485
And all that is in store for season four. Yeah. We we we tease it all the time.

00:43:03.485 --> 00:43:05.513
But like we hope you're going to stay with us.

00:43:07.004 --> 00:43:09.725
We've already had to tell a bunch of people, hey, no, that's not the right time

00:43:09.725 --> 00:43:12.625
for us right now, which is also weirdly exciting.

00:43:13.765 --> 00:43:18.145
But yeah, we'll be doing a lot this upcoming season. So stay tuned and stay

00:43:18.145 --> 00:43:21.285
with us. Absolutely. We appreciate all of you. Yeah, we do.

00:43:22.265 --> 00:43:25.385
And we'll see everybody next time on The Balancing Act podcast. Bye.

00:43:29.338 --> 00:43:33.425
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00:43:33.715 --> 00:43:38.516
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