April 23, 2023
Why Speaking About One’s Spiritual Experiences Can Be Counter-Productive to the Sadhana
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/04/21/why-speaking-about-ones-spiritual-experiences-can-be-counter-productive-to-the-sadhana/
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It is a quite natural, impulse,
an individual has an
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extraordinary unusual and in
some cases inexplicable
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experience outside of his normal
realm of experiences.
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Either through vital enthusiasm,
a feeling of ego aggrandizement
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due to the extraordinary nature
of the experience or through a
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sense of fear or concern about
what the experience is and what
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significance it has, he wants to
communicate it to others.
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There is a very strong ego
driver that can motivate this
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need to describe explain and
otherwise take credit for having
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00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,600
had the experience.
The individual is also
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frequently being encouraged by
others to talk about it.
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And there is a type of vital and
emotional validation that can
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accompany a discussion about an
experience.
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The Seeker who does this
however, often finds that the
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inner power that was acting
seems to have dissipated or
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00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,900
withdrawn at that time.
There's a mechanism at work
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here.
The spiritual Force Works in,
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its native element, and is most
effective when it is not being
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watered down through
interpretation transcription or
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some kind of mental process, One
can almost see it as a high
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power electrical line going
through a Step Down Transformer.
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In this case, the mind and the
emotional vital relation of the
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event means that it has been
filtered, analyzed and otherwise
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subjected to the mines process,
it moves the experience from a
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spiritual energy, into a mental
memory or explanation.
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In.
So, doing the Seeker, has
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short-circuited the action of
the force.
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SRI aurobindo notes quote, the
usual rule given by Yogi's is
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that one should not speak of
one's experience to others.
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Except of course the guru while
the sodden is going on because
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it wastes The Experience there
is what they call Chaya of the
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te pasa.
It is only long past experiences
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that they speak of and even that
not to freely the light left.
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Because you spoke of it to
someone who was not an addict re
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it is safe, if not to speak of
these experiences except to a
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guru or to one who can help you
the passing away of an
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experience.
As soon as it is, spoken of is a
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frequent happening.
And for that reason, many Yogi's
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make it a rule, never to speak
of what happens within them.
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Unless it is a thing of the past
or a settled realization.
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That nothing can take away and
quote reference SRI aurobindo
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and the mother growing within
the psychology of inner
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development.
Chapter 7 growth of
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00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:16,600
Consciousness.
Inner experiences Pages, 141 and
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00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,700
142
00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,800
It is a quite natural, impulse,
an individual has an
2
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,800
extraordinary unusual and in
some cases inexplicable
3
00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,200
experience outside of his normal
realm of experiences.
4
00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,400
Either through vital enthusiasm,
a feeling of ego aggrandizement
5
00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,500
due to the extraordinary nature
of the experience or through a
6
00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:30,200
sense of fear or concern about
what the experience is and what
7
00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,700
significance it has, he wants to
communicate it to others.
8
00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:39,300
There is a very strong ego
driver that can motivate this
9
00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:45,000
need to describe explain and
otherwise take credit for having
10
00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,600
had the experience.
The individual is also
11
00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,000
frequently being encouraged by
others to talk about it.
12
00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,100
And there is a type of vital and
emotional validation that can
13
00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:59,900
accompany a discussion about an
experience.
14
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,599
The Seeker who does this
however, often finds that the
15
00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,800
inner power that was acting
seems to have dissipated or
16
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,900
withdrawn at that time.
There's a mechanism at work
17
00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:15,000
here.
The spiritual Force Works in,
18
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000
its native element, and is most
effective when it is not being
19
00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,500
watered down through
interpretation transcription or
20
00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:28,100
some kind of mental process, One
can almost see it as a high
21
00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:31,600
power electrical line going
through a Step Down Transformer.
22
00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,700
In this case, the mind and the
emotional vital relation of the
23
00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:42,400
event means that it has been
filtered, analyzed and otherwise
24
00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,300
subjected to the mines process,
it moves the experience from a
25
00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:52,000
spiritual energy, into a mental
memory or explanation.
26
00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:55,000
In.
So, doing the Seeker, has
27
00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,100
short-circuited the action of
the force.
28
00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,000
SRI aurobindo notes quote, the
usual rule given by Yogi's is
29
00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000
that one should not speak of
one's experience to others.
30
00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,300
Except of course the guru while
the sodden is going on because
31
00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:18,800
it wastes The Experience there
is what they call Chaya of the
32
00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,700
te pasa.
It is only long past experiences
33
00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:28,900
that they speak of and even that
not to freely the light left.
34
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600
Because you spoke of it to
someone who was not an addict re
35
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200
it is safe, if not to speak of
these experiences except to a
36
00:02:37,208 --> 00:02:42,000
guru or to one who can help you
the passing away of an
37
00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600
experience.
As soon as it is, spoken of is a
38
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,200
frequent happening.
And for that reason, many Yogi's
39
00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,300
make it a rule, never to speak
of what happens within them.
40
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,600
Unless it is a thing of the past
or a settled realization.
41
00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:04,800
That nothing can take away and
quote reference SRI aurobindo
42
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,200
and the mother growing within
the psychology of inner
43
00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,700
development.
Chapter 7 growth of
44
00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:16,600
Consciousness.
Inner experiences Pages, 141 and
45
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,700
142
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