What Can We Each Do to Support the Evolution of Consciousness?

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So namaste everyone.
Welcome to the Cultural

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Integration Fellowship and thank
you for joining us.

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We were founded in 1951 by
Doctor Haidas and Veena

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Choudhury at the centre of
universal religion and spiritual

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practice and in keeping with the
spirit of unity and diversity,

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we honour the spiritual
traditions of diverse cultures

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and religions.
Today's talk is by Santosh

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Krinsky titled What can we each
do to support the evolution of

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Consciousness?
Santosh has been studying

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Sharevindo's writings since 1971
and has a daily blog at

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sharevindostudies.wordpress.com
and podcast located at Anchor

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dot FM slash Santosh Dash
Prinsky.

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He is the author of 20 books and
is editor in chief at Lotus

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Press.
He is the president of the

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Institute for Holistic
Education, a nonprofit focused

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on integrating spirituality into
daily life.

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Videos, presentations,
interviews and podcast episodes

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are all available on the YouTube
channel.

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The URL is youtube.com at
Santosh Krinsky 871.

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More information about Sherbindo
can be found at arbindo.net.

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The US editions and links to
ebook editions of Sherbindo's

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writings can be found at Lotus
Press with the with the URL

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lotuspress.com.
So before I formally invite

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Santosh to make his
presentation, I have something

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from Doctor Hedad Choudhury from
this book, The Prophet of Live

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Divine.
Instead of reading from his

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writings, I'm going to read a
paragraph.

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There's a very interesting story
behind this book.

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In 1998, even before I had gone
to San Francisco, this book was

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presented to me by my aunt, who
is a resident of the ashram.

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I pulled this book out from the
shelves and I thought that I

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should read something from the
book.

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It's from the section
Individuality and Activity

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perceived as compatible with
spiritual Illumination.

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Doctor Anita shall rewrites.
But is it not active cooperation

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with the creative impetus
incompatible with the attainment

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of the highest state of
spiritual illumination?

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Is not all action but blind
movement of the ignorance?

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Or in other words, do not all
works proceed from non

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discriminating self
identification of the spirit

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with nature?
That indeed is what the time

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honoured tradition of ascetic
mysticism would affirm.

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Moreover, perfect union with the
Supreme is affirmed to be

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destructive not only of activity
but of individuality itself.

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On the attainment of complete
liberation, Nirvana and Moksha,

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there is supposed to be a total
secession of all being in

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absolute not, or a static
absorption of the individual

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self in the supra individual
spirit.

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This removes even the remotest
possibility of all action.

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Dissolution of individuality not
only renders action impossible,

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but makes all talk of it
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The philosophy of integral non
dualism, however, exposes the

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untenability of this whole line
of thinking.

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It sheds a new light upon the
concept of individuality and

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activity.
It shows that they are perfectly

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compatible with the highest form
of liberation or spiritual

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elimination.
There is no reason why

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individuality should be
dissolved at the drawing of the

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sun of pure knowledge.
Individuality is emphatically

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not a product of ignorance or
Maya.

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What depends upon the action of
ignorance is the

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individualization of the lower
nature, the ego, the limited and

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unsatisfactory character of the
surface being.

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This is a beautiful section.
You know from this chapter the

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philosophical basis of Integral
Yoga, and I already gave you the

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section from which these lines
have been taken.

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Let's meditate on these words
for a couple of minutes and then

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I formally invite Santosh to
make his presentation.

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Kanpur,
and that you could begin.

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Namaste, welcome all of our
friends and Guru by here on this

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auspicious occasion of being
able to join with the Kundan and

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the Cultural Integration
Fellowship and the spirit of

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Doctor Choudhury and Bina
Choudhury, whom we very much

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love and respect for their
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Kundan made a little bit of a
mistake this time and inviting

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me to talk and that is he said
speak about whatever you like.

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And so we're going to cover a
lot of ground today because I

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don't often get that
opportunity.

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And for anybody who has any
thoughts, questions or whatever,

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I'm leaving some time at the end
of the presentation for us to

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share and to raise questions, to
share your own ideas and

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experience.
And I encourage you, if you know

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something comes up along the
way, make a little note so we

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don't lose it.
And let's dive right in here.

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The question today is what can
each of us do to support the

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evolution of consciousness?
And the texture and background

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of that is that we start out as
ego personalities.

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We feel we experience the world,
we grow up and get

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indoctrinated, if you will, into
the idea that we are separate

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from the rest of the creation
and that somehow we have to

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survive and thrive at the
expense of other aspects of the

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creation.
This is a dualistic perspective.

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It also permeates spiritual
practice of the past, which

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Doctor Chowdhury and his
paragraph so clearly

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illustrated.
The idea that my meditation, my

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spiritual development is
something I do separate from my

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life in the world and that I
have to abandon the one in order

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to achieve the other.
And that is a again, a form of

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dualism.
And it remains rooted in ego,

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the idea that I am separate and
I can be saved while the rest of

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creation can do whatever it
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That creates for us a lot of
confusion as we become awake and

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aware of spiritual development.
We say, well, we want to

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meditate, we want to go on
retreats, we want to do these

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things.
And we create a duality in our

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own lives.
We say, well, I don't have time

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to do the meditation right now
because I have to go to work.

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We separate things into little
compartments and that basically

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keeps us small, weak and
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When we face the world, we come
out and we see all the problems

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of the world.
And we've gone over this in past

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talks about the existential
crisis of humanity, all of the

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the myriad things that are vital
and mental consciousness have

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created that are threatening to
destroy our very existence and

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the need for an evolution of
consciousness in order to save

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that.
But we haven't yet understood

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the oneness, the non dual
nature, as Doctor Choudhury

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points out of our existence.
We are not separate from each

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other and we are not separate
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We are those things that we see,
we participate in them, whether

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we live isolated as hermits
somewhere in a cave or a forest

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or a mountain retreat or a
monastery, or we participate

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fully in the life of the world.
And so the question then comes

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up, OK, we've tried political
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We've tried economic solutions,
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we've tried uniformity, trying
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same bed of Procrustes that is
somehow going to unify humanity.

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And every one of these choices
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over thousands of years have
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We are still faced with the same
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grown because we haven't yet
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One of the things that always
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philosophy and spirituality of
India was the focus on the core

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conception of finding out that
being known, what gives?

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In other words, knowing what
being known tells us everything

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about creation, that core
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And that principle is that with
the unity of our consciousness

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and our psychology and our
relationship to the world, we

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have to find a way to make, as
Sri Aurobindo points out, all

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life into yoga.
And what does that mean from the

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grand perspective of the
evolution of consciousness?

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Trior Obindo points out that
nature is undertaking an

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evolution of consciousness, what
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it can take millennia.
Human beings, as they awaken to

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their spiritual capacities, have
the ability to consciously

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participate and help speed up
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That does not necessarily mean
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be able to escape the rest of
humanity and somehow become

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enlightened and everyone else is
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It really means that through
individual practice and through

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our relationship to the external
world that we experienced

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through our relationships with
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work colleagues and our work in
the world, that there is an

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interactive process that creates
first of all, the texture of

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consciousness within humanity
that textures our vital nature,

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our physical nature and our
mental nature so that progress

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beyond into a new level of
consciousness becomes possible.

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And secondly, that through our
evolutionary development, we

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vibrate back into that
collectivity, that progress, and

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thereby help all of humanity
gain the platform, if you will,

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of developing that next phase of
consciousness.

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We are not separate.
We require a change of human

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consciousness.
People say it's impossible.

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You can't straighten out a dog's
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They say, well, if we look at
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history of humanity, we see that
actually a change of

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consciousness is possible.
It may be hard, it may take a

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long time.
In the context of an individual

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human life, our 80 or 90 or 100
or 130 years, I think someone

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just died at the age of 117.
The longest living person has

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now died, so 117 is where she
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We don't see the change
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frame of change is slower than
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There is a a difference in you
can say time dilation as they

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would talk about in physics and
astronomy nowadays so that the

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human life doesn't see the
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But we can look back at history
and we can see that huge changes

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in fact are taking place that
represent a new level of

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consciousness.
Look back 100 years and look to

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today.
We see things that could not be

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imagined 100 years ago.
I mean, think about it, 100

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years ago, more or less women
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We didn't treat them as equal
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They had to follow the dictates
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And nowadays we take the vote of
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granted, actually, in many parts
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Is the change complete?
Not yet, but we can see the

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change.
Europe has changed, United

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States has changed, other parts
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There's still change taking
place, and there's still.

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A resistance to it from those
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status quo ante.
That doesn't mean that a change

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of consciousness hasn't taken
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It means that it's still in
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We see a new awareness of people
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We see the Internet.
We are able to join together in

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meetings like this.
We're able to watch television

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and news cycles from all over
the world, and suddenly we

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understand the issues, the
sufferings, the opportunities,

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the cultural developments from
all other places in the world.

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When an earthquake occurs in
Turkey and people are dying and

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rushed there, the world responds
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This is a new consciousness of
unity of humanity that is slowly

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starting to permeate.
We see the development of things

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like the United Nations as
imperfect as it was formed

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because the powers that were
wanted to maintain the powers

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that were.
And so they set up things like,

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you know, the Security Council
veto, etcetera, which has been a

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tremendous hindrance on the real
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But nevertheless, the concept,
the idea that humanity could

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work together to solve problems
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address worldwide issues became
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It used to be that one Kingdom
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one would become the emperor and
one would become the vassal

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state and the emperor would tell
everyone what to do, collect

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tribute, and that was it.
Well, that time is changing.

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We see a new awareness of the
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Go back to the 1950s only, which
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Nobody really was talking about
the issues of the toxic

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pollution caused by our
industrial revolution, the

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issues of the chemicals that
were going into the air, the

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land and the water.
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the issues of climate change
that we were greatly responsible

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for.
And yet, Fast forward 70 years

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and the world is now recognizing
these things as serious and real

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issues and working on it.
We have the issue of increased

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interest in spiritual practice.
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was done by an individual who
somehow in his local life and

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community woke up, became
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the goals in front of him, and
he went and tried to find out

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what his spiritual purpose was,
took up yoga or some kind of

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meditation practice or Buddhism
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This used to be an individual
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Now it's a worldwide phenomenon,
and we see people everywhere in

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the world wanting to understand
who they are, what they are, why

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they're here, and take up some
form of spiritual practice.

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We see new ideas about how we
treat children.

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We see the abolition of slavery
in many parts of the world.

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We see very, very serious issues
of how we want to relate to each

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other, the sensitivity, the idea
that there are new ways to

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relate rather than the former
win lose psychology that has

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controlled humanity for how many
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So these are all signs of a new
consciousness, but there is

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actually another sign of a new
consciousness that people don't

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always acknowledge, and that is
the strength and the

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aggressiveness of the resistance
to it.

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We see today an enormous
resistance coming up, the idea

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of authoritarianism, the idea of
dictatorial control, the idea of

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trying to roll back all these
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And these resistances actually
are a sign that this new

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consciousness is active.
And those forces of the past,

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those forces of the status quo,
feel it, understand it

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intuitively and reject it.
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existence is threatened.
And as they say, a cornered

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beast is the most dangerous.
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concerned about, well, where is
the change, we see all these

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retrogressive forces highly
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We can appreciate that they
actually are a sign of the new

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consciousness.
So once we recognize that a new

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evolutionary consciousness is
possible, we have to look at,

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first of all, how does it come
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What do we, what do we do and
how does that impact the

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situation of that texturing of
consciousness of the whole world

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that needs to be coincident with
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The first thing is each
individual, whoever you are,

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wherever you are, has the
opportunity to work on the

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spiritual underpinnings of your
life, change who I am, who you

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are, and then through the
radiation principle of that

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energy, everyone else around us
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over time we create change.
I have an interesting example.

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Back in 1973, I was residing at
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Pondicherry and for a short time
I was working in the dishwashing

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section and I had the
opportunity to meet and observe

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a man there by the name of Ram
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Many of you have met him or
heard of him.

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He was in his own right ahead of
an ashram guru from Orissa, and

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he had come to the ashram and he
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He was drying plates and he had
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demeanor.
And people would come to him and

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they would touch his feet and
they would ask for his

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blessings.
And he was washing dishes.

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And yet he had an impact on
many, many thousands of people,

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including people I know today,
50 years later in the United

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States.
The impact radiates.

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We can't see it in our short
human lives, but over time and

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over space, that change
radiates.

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Now, we've all heard about the
butterfly effect, OK?

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And sometimes we laugh about the
butterfly effect.

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Oh, the butterfly in Indonesia
is going to flap its wings and

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the whole world's going to
change.

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And we joke about that.
OK, fine.

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Let's move beyond the butterfly
effect for a moment and let's

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talk about the tsunami effect.
You have an earthquake somewhere

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in Japan or Alaska or wherever
it might be, and it starts a

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tsunami.
And the tsunami starts out as

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maybe a one inch wave in the
ocean.

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And by the time it hits a land
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world, it can be 10 or 20 or 30
feet high.

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The impact at the point of
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world is far greater than the
observed starting point.

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We talked about the avalanche
effect, how a small snowball or

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a boulder at the top of a
mountain can roll down a

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mountain and create an avalanche
that buries villages.

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Small starting point, large
impact.

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We look at throwing a rock into
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Virtually everyone has done
that.

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They've watched throwing a rock
into a pond and you see ripples

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out and that's all great.
That rock is very small.

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The ripples are relatively
small, but we don't internalize

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the impact of that.
But go ask a dinosaur about the

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impact of a rock rippling in a
pond.

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A rock that was .08% of the mass
of the earth, came with

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sufficient concentration and
force into one spot on the earth

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and wiped out most of the life
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dinosaurs that had lived here
for how many years?

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How many hundreds of thousands
or millions of years a rock

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.08%?
Not even 1% of the mass of the

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earth had such an impact.
Granted, it came with

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concentrated force, it came with
momentum when it hit, but that

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is the type of work that each
one of us can do in our own

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lives.
As we develop in our spiritual

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practice and concentrate that
force, we can have an outsized

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effect.
I speak to people sometimes

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about what I call the 1%
solution.

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If you have a straight line of
where humanity is going and

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you're able to change the
trajectory in your time, even by

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1% / 400 years, you're going to
be this far different in terms

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of where you wind up.
And so people say, well, OK,

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there's 8 billion people on the
planet, what can I do?

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Well, everyone contributes to
that texturing of consciousness,

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but people who are awake and
aware and focused have an

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outsized influence.
You don't have eight, 8 billion

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equally influencing people on
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We look at.
We have an example here in the

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United States of someone by the
name of Johnny Appleseed.

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OK, now he was a a pastor and he
ran a nursery and he went around

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a number of States and arranged
to have thousands of apple trees

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planted.
And even today people are eating

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apples in this country because
Johnny Appleseed went out and

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did what he did.
So we say, OK, well, we see

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many, many such examples.
Obviously, names percolate to

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the top.
When we think about it, Da Vinci

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and Beethoven and Shrioro Bindo
and who knows who else is out

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there there.
There's so many names, Doctor

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Chowdhury, who have outsized
influence.

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We see people that you may never
have heard of.

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There was Catherine Long and the
Lady Doubting in the United

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Kingdom, and back in 1963 they
decided that they wanted to

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address the issue of animal
testing of cosmetics, the

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torturing of animals so that we
could have cosmetics.

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So they started a movement
called Beauty Without Cruelty in

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1963.
And who's ever heard of these

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people?
But everybody today knows about

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the cruelty free pledge of
cosmetics all over the planet.

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And most people have started to
hear that there are countries

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all over the world who are
banning the testing of cosmetics

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on animals.
Who thought back at that time

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that these people starting a
small concept company could have

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that effect?
Now I'm a I'm a Direct Line of

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descendant from them because I
wound up buying the Beauty

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Without Cruelty brand here in
the United States some years

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ago.
And I carry on their legacy in

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that sense.
But other than that, who else

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has heard of them?
So when we think about it,

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instead of feeling like I'm just
so small and insignificant, what

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can I do?
Instead of getting depressed

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about how big the problems are
and how small I am, I suggest

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that everybody do whatever you
can do.

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And you will have an outsize
influence compared to billions

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of other people on the planet
just by being who you are and

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doing what you do and being
awake and carrying that

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consciousness into your
relationships, into your work,

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into your educational practice,
into your retirement.

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Now I hear many people, you
know, it's like I've worked my

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whole life and, and now I'm
retired and I just want to enjoy

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myself.
OK.

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When you really talk to these
people, you find out that they

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feel like their lives are empty
in many cases.

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And the mother has said an
aimless life is a meaningless

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life.
So take your retirement and turn

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it into something beneficial,
whether it's creating beauty in

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the world, whether it's raising
beautiful plants, whether it's

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volunteering and doing
something, whether it's just

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being a good influence and a
peaceful, happy person relating

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to the people around you.
It has an influence.

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We've heard about the 100th
monkey phenomenon, and let's

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talk about that for a moment
because that's really very

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interesting.
Some people were studying a

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tribe of monkeys, I think it was
in Southeast Asia or Indonesia

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somewhere, and they found that
one monkey was washing its fruit

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before eating.
And as they continued observing,

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they found that other monkeys
began to adopt that practice.

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And then eventually virtually
the whole tribe of monkeys there

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started washing their fruit.
What they didn't expect was that

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at a certain point, when all the
monkeys in that tribe were

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washing their fruit, monkeys the
world over began to wash their

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fruit.
Now they didn't have the benefit

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of telephones, Internet, and all
those other things.

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They had the benefit of what TR
Deschardins calls the nuosphere,

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the the sphere of mental energy,
just as we have a biosphere, the

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sphere of vital energy that
permeates the world.

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And when enough monkeys focused
on the same issue, other monkeys

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who became receptive to that
vibration somewhere else in the

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world were able to pick it up.
And we see the same thing

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happening in humanity.
So the challenge for each of us,

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when we think about how small
and insignificant we are, is

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which one of us may actually be
the 100th monkey for humanity.

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How do we know?
We won't know, but that is one

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of the challenges in front of us
that we have an opportunity for.

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So what are the qualities we
should inculcate?

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Because not all of us can do
deep meditation and not all of

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us can do big works of some
sort.

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You know, if you have the
capability to do things that

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impact climate change or green
energy or helpful food

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production or whatever else,
then do it, please.

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But if you're living your life
and that's all you can do,

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whatever work you take up, try
to do it with the right spirit,

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that yogic presence.
Radiate the qualities of peace,

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harmony, balance, light,
goodwill, compassion, reduce

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egoism, respect for all beings
and appreciate the power of

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truth.
If we do that, we begin to see

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changes in the way other people
relate to us.

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And we see changes, in many
cases slowly, albeit because

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people are dealing with their
own issues in the people around

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us.
And eventually we can build a

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culture of consciousness.
So then we come to, OK, you

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can't deal with maybe climate
change is too big for you, or

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stopping the Arab Israeli war is
too big a thing for you to take

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on yourself.
That's OK.

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If you've done what you can do,
at least support those projects

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that represent the change you
want to see happen.

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If you can volunteer, volunteer.
If you can support them with

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your goodwill and your
encouragement, and that's all

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you can do, do it.
If you happen to have money and

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you can give money to them, give
money to them because they need

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money to operate energy in order
to operate.

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That brings us even to the
project of Oroville, which we've

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talked about before.
Oroville is a mother's project

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to create a laboratory to tackle
the human issues and the human

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issues of clean water, clean
energy, the food issues because

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we see the collapse of the
ocean, fisheries which are going

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to impact a billion people on
this planet for their very

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survival.
These type of issues are being

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taken up with various programs
in Oroville, the dealing with

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how we can waste less doing
things so that we're not

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creating so much toxic pollution
in production and masses of

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toxic materials on the back end
that we don't know what to do

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with.
They're working on Desalina

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Tion, they're working on solar
energy mini grid, they're

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working on a high protein hemp
and algae foods.

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There's many, many projects
there, but beyond the projects,

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they also have the opportunity
to face the one thing that

457
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,280
humanity has never, ever solved
in all of our thousands of

458
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,640
years, and that is to address
the issue of human unity in a

459
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,280
way that isn't purely
uniformity.

460
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,040
It's highly audacious to say
let's tackle human unity and

461
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,160
bring people from all different
backgrounds, cultures,

462
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,400
countries, languages, mindsets,
educational interests, etcetera,

463
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,520
and let's bring them into one
place together and let them

464
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,920
figure out how to do governance
of one and of of one community

465
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,400
together.
What do you think the odds of

466
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,640
success of that are first time
out?

467
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,520
You know, we have an apocryphal
story of our The Invention of

468
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,920
the Light bulb by Thomas Edison.
And when I was a young child, I

469
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,560
lived in a place called Menlo
Park Terrace, which was right

470
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,360
next to Menlo Park, NJ, where
Thomas Edison did his work.

471
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,080
So I got to hear all these
stories, and they may or may not

472
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:36,080
be true, but he once said that
in order to invent the light

473
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,840
bulb, he failed 1000 times.
He tried one thing, it didn't

474
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,120
work.
He tried another thing, it

475
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
didn't work.
He didn't give up.

476
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,920
And eventually we can flip a
switch and we can have light.

477
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:58,040
And so that's a symbol for us of
what Oroville has to do to

478
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,720
succeed at figuring out how
humanity is going to learn to

479
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:06,040
live together in peace and
harmony on this planet and solve

480
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,760
its big issues.
Take up the issues but also deal

481
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,880
with the governance issues.
And they are trying and have

482
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,840
tried many, many of the
different solutions that

483
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,440
humanity has failed at in the
past.

484
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,640
And they failed equally as much
because those are not the

485
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,720
solutions.
But what's interesting is they

486
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:31,240
go back and they say, OK, let's
see if we can find another way.

487
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:34,160
And so they set up a group
called Dream Weavers or Heart

488
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,400
Weavers, and they bring people
together and they look at their

489
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,960
failures and they try to find a
way forward.

490
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:47,640
They haven't yet succeeded, but
the good thing is they haven't

491
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,720
yet given up.
And so to me, that's really one

492
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:59,680
of the most important things, if
you will, is we've got an

493
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,840
opportunity there to contribute
to the solving of this problem.

494
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Now people see that communities
unify based on an external

495
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,920
threat.
And so now the popular

496
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,880
literature is filled with alien
invasions, and that's supposed

497
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,960
to be something that everyone is
afraid of, and that's going to

498
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,880
bring us together somehow.
We're going to all fight the

499
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,880
aliens or whatever it might be
that that they think it is.

500
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:38,840
But actually, I think the threat
is closer to home.

501
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:45,480
I think the threat is our own
existential crisis, the 6th

502
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,040
planetary die off that we are
facing right now, right here,

503
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920
right now.
We don't need aliens to wipe us

504
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,280
out.
We're prepared to do it to

505
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,680
ourselves.
And so this need to be

506
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,760
addressed.
And as we wake up to this, we

507
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,440
have the unifying factor that
can bring humanity together, the

508
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,240
appreciation at some point that
all of the wars, all the mass

509
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:23,080
migrations, all of the toxic
chemicals are things that really

510
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,640
we have to face and confront and
solve.

511
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:37,760
And So what can we do?
OK, I mean, we've got address

512
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,160
climate change, we've talked
about, OK, what can you do about

513
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,560
that?
Well, you might be able to do

514
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,400
solar vehicles, reduce your
energy waste, etcetera.

515
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,120
One of the big things that that
people don't realize is one of

516
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,880
the greatest causes of climate
change, global warming, happens

517
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,160
to be the raising and eating of
animal foods.

518
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,080
And OK, not everybody is
prepared at this moment to go

519
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,800
vegan, but just think, if you
cut your use of animal foods by

520
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,520
10% or 15% and start to
substitute in your diet, that

521
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,880
has its impact, a positive
impact on climate change,

522
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,680
possibly also on your health.
And reduce all those pains and

523
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,480
sufferings that people have
because of the animal food

524
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:41,560
production, the deforestation
that goes with that conservation

525
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,240
of water.
We have a huge water crisis in

526
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:49,360
this world because fresh water
is being squandered, lost and

527
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,520
misused.
And with the rise of the Seas

528
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,040
and the melting of the glaciers,
we're actually accentuating the

529
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,760
freshwater crisis.
We have a similar issue with

530
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,400
virtually everything you see in
the world.

531
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,880
You can do something about it
whatever interests you.

532
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,080
This is not a one-size-fits-all
solution.

533
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,360
Everybody finds their own things
that they can do to fix

534
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,400
something, to work on something
to create beauty and harmony in

535
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,360
the world.
Mainly to focus your time,

536
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:41,160
energy, and attention on being a
benefit to yourself and others

537
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,880
on the planet.
So with that, let's open it up

538
00:48:46,880 --> 00:49:02,040
for conversation.
I'm sure people will agree with

539
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,800
me that I did not err in giving
you the topic that you chose.

540
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,400
We should speak on anything that
you want.

541
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,320
Thank you very much.
That was absolutely,

542
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,560
particularly from the
perspective of participating in

543
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,400
the creation of new
consciousness, which is the

544
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:34,160
central pursuit of integrity.
I see Margaret's hand up.

545
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,840
So Margaret is a nature self and
coming.

546
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Thank you so much, Santosh.
I, I think it's always good to

547
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,040
mention what's impactful for the
person.

548
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:01,600
And for me, the fact that you
mentioned the timeline upfront

549
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:09,040
that well, first of all, that
the actions are not always seen

550
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,240
and that the timeline is such
that it may occur after your

551
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:19,000
lifetime.
I think that helping people take

552
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:28,960
that in at a deeper level, you
know, we're so our egos are so

553
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,560
much into I want to see my
impact, right?

554
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,720
So along with the shift in
consciousness that you're

555
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,920
advocating, that shift in
consciousness will help us with

556
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:49,680
that timeline issue, right?
Also, I just wanted to mention

557
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:58,920
that I think for myself and many
others, we've had a real sort of

558
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:10,280
in your face version of this in
the United States of the outer

559
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:17,920
looking bleak, put it this way
or can't not not being able to

560
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,040
face or handle what looks like
what's coming.

561
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:30,240
And I really want to emphasize
that working with force and

562
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:37,840
mother and Triara Bendo's force
helped Get Me Out of that

563
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,600
orientation so that I could be
functional.

564
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:51,200
And so it's like a, a, a preview
of whatever we are going to face

565
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,040
that looks dire.
If we've had an experience of

566
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,440
making that shift, then it can
become our way of being for the

567
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,080
next crisis, right.
So anyway, I wanted to thank you

568
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,720
for your how you orientated us
to these very important shifts.

569
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,280
Thank you.
Well, thank you.

570
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,800
And you know, Johnny Appleseed
didn't get to eat all those

571
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,520
apples.
That's right.

572
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:37,660
So there was just a big
convention in Chicago, and I'm

573
00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:41,660
reminded that what we heard from
many speakers was the same

574
00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:44,780
thing.
They said do something.

575
00:52:45,740 --> 00:52:49,920
They didn't tell you what to do
and they said do something and

576
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:55,040
don't delay too long about it.
Do something now.

577
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:04,280
So it just reminded me.
Thank you.

578
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:16,910
Well, it's not often that we
basically talk people into

579
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:23,310
silence here, so it's
interesting, but anybody else

580
00:53:23,310 --> 00:53:28,600
want to add any points to our
discussion here, Something that

581
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,200
you found valuable or beneficial
in your life to move things

582
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:42,680
forward?
I can fill in till people think

583
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,520
about this question.
What I really appreciated was at

584
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,360
the beginning of your talk how
you're talking about the shifts

585
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,720
in consciousness that have
happened in the last few

586
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:02,560
decades, things that we have
started taking for granted, but

587
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,200
they didn't really exist that
particular way.

588
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:15,800
So, you know, that sort of
trajectory put us on a positive

589
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,840
note, which I really appreciate.
And then, of course, you know,

590
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,160
you start talking about
different problems that exist

591
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:32,120
that we collectively face as
humanity and then coming to how

592
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:39,480
we can think about the changes.
And what was very important was

593
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,560
that we don't really have to
think big.

594
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,800
You know, we can make small
changes and these small changes

595
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,080
will have an impact in the
future.

596
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,800
And if we are really concerned
about the 'cause, if we are

597
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,280
really concerned about the
nature of transformation, the

598
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:07,600
way I interpreted it was that it
doesn't really matter whether we

599
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,360
are alive in this body to see
the change or not, but the fact

600
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,200
that the change will happen, the
change itself is going to take

601
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040
its new course.
That was something which was

602
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:27,160
very beautiful.
Yes, and that's also something

603
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,840
that Sri Krishna mentions to
Arjuna in the Bhagwad Gita, that

604
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,920
whether you participate or not,
all these warriors on the other

605
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,280
side are already destined to die
because change is happening.

606
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,160
But you are a protagonist in
your time in your circumstance

607
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,800
to help that along.
Don't take it personally, just

608
00:55:50,840 --> 00:56:01,590
deal with it.
Yes, Sean.

609
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:08,630
Thank you, Santosh, for your
enlightening talk.

610
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:13,950
I'm wondering whether you could
share maybe about your own

611
00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:18,710
experience on maybe the
difference of the contribution

612
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:21,550
we can make at different stages
of our lives.

613
00:56:21,550 --> 00:56:25,680
Because when we're, let's say in
our 20s or in our 30s, we

614
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,320
probably don't have the same
kind of contribution to the

615
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,040
evolution of consciousness as
later stages in life.

616
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,440
And also finding this balance
between being sometimes just

617
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,480
being here with consciousness as
a witness is sufficient to, you

618
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,960
know, provoke change or provoke,
you know, whatever.

619
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,600
And sometimes we need to to do
more the karma yoga.

620
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,160
So could you, I don't know,
maybe share on, on your

621
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,720
experience or your point of view
on these, on these aspects?

622
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:56,160
Well, sure.
You know, when I was in high

623
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,280
school, I took jobs, whatever
jobs I could get at that time

624
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,920
because I needed to earn some
money.

625
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,320
I wasn't involved in any yogic
practice or anything.

626
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,600
But one thing I did take away
from it and also in my schooling

627
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,440
was I tried to give it 100% and
I tried to do it cheerfully.

628
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,120
I didn't go to work grumbling
and saying, oh, what a rotten

629
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,280
job.
This is why I just have to go

630
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,720
make money.
I went there and said I've been

631
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,720
granted the opportunity to
participate and earn some money

632
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,160
here, let me do it with full
energy, full enjoyment, full

633
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,880
concentration, full involvement.
And I got through school that

634
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
way.
And when I got to college, I got

635
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:46,480
a little lost and dropped out of
college after something of a,

636
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,400
what you might call a near death
experience.

637
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,840
And after seeing the futility of
a lot of the political and other

638
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,000
actions that were taking place
to try and stop the war in

639
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,720
Vietnam and went to Europe and
started studying and practicing

640
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,600
yoga.
And that's actually where I came

641
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,680
in touch with Sri Aurobindo.
But the attitude that I took as

642
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,240
a young person is something I
encourage young people to

643
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:23,880
undertake, that I encourage the
children of my family to do and

644
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,880
they encourage their children to
do.

645
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,440
And that is do whatever you do
with a goodwill, with the best

646
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,840
effort you can make, concentrate
on it and and really try to make

647
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,320
that work as you go into
careers.

648
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,280
It's the same thing.
It may not be the ideal job of,

649
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,480
you know, changing the planet,
but do it with a goodwill and

650
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:55,240
relate to people in a way that's
respectful and honest and

651
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,480
compassionate.
And that will automatically

652
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,640
change the texture of your
community of people that are

653
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
around you and how maybe they
react to things.

654
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:16,480
If you become affluent through
your work and you have extra

655
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,600
money.
Well, I always felt like trust

656
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,840
fund babies tend to have bad
outcomes.

657
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,400
It's just a history.
It's one thing to let your

658
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,320
children have a certain amount
of resources to to carry out

659
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,320
their lives with.
It's another thing to make them

660
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,640
mega millionaires.
We see how that's turned out on

661
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,280
our political stages.
Michael might point out to us

662
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,360
having just gone through a
convention illustrating what

663
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,520
disasters a trust fund baby has
created in this country.

664
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,960
They just don't have a
perspective.

665
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000
And so if you've got extra
wealth.

666
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Take some of it and dedicate it
to the work that your children

667
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,360
are doing.
That's fine.

668
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,680
And take some of it and apply it
to whatever projects or

669
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,080
opportunities or groups you find
are doing a good work.

670
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:31,680
And, you know, create a legacy
that outlives you by forwarding

671
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,880
the projects.
If you're a retired person, make

672
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,880
your life valuable to yourself
and others.

673
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,720
Don't just vegetate and think, I
work my whole life.

674
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,720
And so now I just get to knock
off.

675
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,480
And if you're in a field that
can do something, invent a new

676
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,080
energy or find a way to be more
economical of energy or help

677
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,640
with freshwater, whatever it
might be, then of course you're

678
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,560
already doing something
concrete.

679
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,440
At.
The inflection point.

680
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,280
So I think I've covered all the
different gamuts of life.

681
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,560
If you're, if you've got health
issues and you're, you know,

682
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:22,560
you're bound to a bed and you're
struggling and suffering and you

683
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,680
feel like you can't do anything.
Well, my wife actually tells a

684
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,560
story.
She was doing Hospice for a

685
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:36,320
while and there was a lady in
Hospice and she was always

686
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,480
extremely cheerful.
And then she decided she was

687
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,240
getting close to her time of
death.

688
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,440
And now she wasn't practicing
yoga or doing any of these

689
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,920
things.
She was just there in Hospice

690
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,480
struggling with her declining
health.

691
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,600
And so she said, I need a little
help.

692
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,120
I want to get some notes
written.

693
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
I want to give this to this
person who can use it and this

694
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,080
to that person who can use it.
And she started distributing all

695
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,760
the little things she had in her
life to people who would find a

696
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,280
benefit from it.
And when she was done, she

697
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,040
smiled and she said, I've
completed everything now I can

698
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:21,840
die peacefully.
So even people in Hospice, even

699
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,720
people suffering health issues
that are preventing them from

700
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:33,960
doing anything else, have the
opportunity to contribute to the

701
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,840
evolution of consciousness.
Thank you, Santosh.

702
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,480
Thank you very much and thank
you, Quinton

703
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,480
Wayne.
Please unmute yourself and come

704
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,960
in.
OK, well thanks for letting me

705
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,720
speak.
Just wanted to before I forget,

706
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,360
I want to thank Condon for for
his book.

707
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,520
It fits so well in my spiritual
practice.

708
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,200
It's my framework now.
It explained a lot of things to

709
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,800
me.
So thank you so much for the

710
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,520
book.
And Santosh, I want to thank you

711
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:25,360
so much for that Sri Aravendo
study that you publish.

712
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,200
I, I'm, I'm, I'm there every
day.

713
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,360
So it's great.
So let me get to the point here.

714
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:39,200
When I retired six years ago and
I'm on, I'm 70 now, something

715
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,520
ringing my, I've traveled a bit
and I was in a Peace Corps in

716
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,040
Ukraine.
I've done a lot of weird things.

717
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,080
And, but after I retired,
traveling and doing something

718
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,840
for myself didn't seem to be
very productive, except one

719
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,760
thing I could do was make myself
the best I could be in body,

720
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,600
mind and spirit.
Now I don't know where that came

721
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,960
from.
I did practice yoga, but it's

722
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,560
hatha yoga off and on for about
40 years.

723
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,120
But that's what I decided to do
best, best I could be in, in

724
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,360
body, mind and spirit.
And so that that's, that's what

725
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,200
I did.
And rather than travel or try to

726
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:20,240
do things for myself and I put
my faith in, in, in God and, or

727
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,800
supreme being or whatever you
want to call.

728
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,000
And since then, of course, I've,
I've discovered arrobendo and,

729
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,880
and I've found some other
western philosophers, but not

730
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,360
putting myself first above
everything, realizing there's

731
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,720
other things more important than
me and that I can.

732
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,400
And I'm, I'm the happiest I've
ever been in my entire life.

733
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,280
And my life has not been very
happy.

734
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,200
So I'm very blessed to be a
member of this group and it's

735
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,760
been a life changer for me.
I've, I've, I've, I've really,

736
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,960
but basically starting with
yourself is the best place to

737
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,400
begin.
If you want to find something,

738
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,800
start with yourself and make all
the changes you possibly can

739
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,200
that will make the world a
better place.

740
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,320
And, and then, then you can
branch out into other things.

741
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,800
Because I, like I say, I'm kind
of a professional volunteer.

742
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,520
I can tell you lots of stories
about that.

743
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,960
Sometimes rewarding and
sometimes not so rewarding and

744
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,840
you really don't even want to do
it for the reward.

745
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,920
You want to do it for just the
cause and forget about reward,

746
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,080
but that's kind of my my two
cents worth.

747
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,840
And this is incredible stuff to
talk about.

748
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,920
I love it and hope we can all
change the world.

749
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,480
Thank you.
Well.

750
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Thank you.
Thank.

751
01:05:44,210 --> 01:05:49,650
You, yes, I mentioned mute
yourself.

752
01:05:51,090 --> 01:05:52,730
OK.
Hi Santosh.

753
01:05:53,330 --> 01:05:57,080
First of all, I want to thank
you for a very relevant and

754
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,840
wonderful talk.
I think the question that you've

755
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,600
got is what one can do in
different phases of life as

756
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,880
somebody asked.
It bothers everybody and one,

757
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,720
everybody has to deal with it.
I think you explain it very

758
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,520
nicely that whatever we do, it
will have an impact.

759
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,480
We may not be able to see that
in the short run.

760
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,120
Thinking of that aspect, I think
in the current world,

761
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,440
information and data is a big
power.

762
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,680
We even if you're not doing
anything, we always share

763
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,360
information that different,
different ways and different

764
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,840
modes.
So that itself is a power.

765
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:41,160
I think one point while sharing
that, I think if, if we can use

766
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,200
a lot of judgement and make sure
that we share the data and

767
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,120
information which is only
constructive and positive, that

768
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,240
goes a long way in bringing
about small changes.

769
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,240
I feel that personally when when
interacting with people and also

770
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,480
sharing the information.
That reminds me of one of the

771
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,520
quotation from Lao Tzu, a very
beautiful quotation.

772
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,680
Remember.
So one man sits at his home and

773
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,480
there's noble thoughts,
beautiful thoughts and the

774
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,840
reverberations are heard
thousands of miles.

775
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,760
There is so much true in the
present world that we all share

776
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:27,000
information and talk about it.
So one big thing I think we all

777
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,080
the way of doing whatever we
learn is keep spreading it and

778
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040
share it with joy.
That it said will create a field

779
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
and domain.
I feel that personally.

780
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,560
Thank you for a very wonderful
talk.

781
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:47,480
Well, thank you.
Yeah.

782
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:55,840
Thank you.
OK.

783
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,800
It seems that we are naturally
coming to an end all this

784
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:09,000
wonderful gathering.
Thank you once again.

785
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,480
Thank you so much.
We really enjoyed it.

786
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,400
It was absolutely.
Thank you, Santosh.

787
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,319
Thank you.
Thank you.

788
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:23,160
Thank you very much.
Take care.

789
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,399
Everyone stayed at night for me.
It's time to say goodnight.

790
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,760
Take care.
Goodnight.

791
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,680
Thank you.
Thank you.