What Can We Each Do to Support the Evolution of Consciousness?

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So namaste everyone, welcome to
the Cultural Integration

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Fellowship and thank you for
joining us.

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We were founded in 1951 by
Doctor Haidas and Veena

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Choudhury at the centre of
universal religion and spiritual

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practice.
And in keeping with the spirit

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of unity and diversity, we
honour the spiritual traditions

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of diverse cultures and
religions.

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Today's talk is by Santosh
Krinsky, titled What can we each

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do to support the evolution of
Consciousness?

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Santosh has been studying
Sharevindo's writings since 1971

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and has a daily blog at
sharevindostudies.wordpress.com

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and podcast located at Anchor
dot FM slash Santosh Dash

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Prinsky.
He is the author of 20 books and

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is editor in chief at Lotus
Press.

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He is the president of the
Institute for Holistic

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Education, a nonprofit focused
on integrating spirituality into

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daily life.
Videos, presentations,

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interviews and podcast episodes
are all available on the YouTube

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channel.
The URL is youtube.com at

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Santosh Krinsky 871.
More information about

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Sharebindo can be found at
arbindo.net.

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The US editions and links to
ebook editions of Sharebindo's

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writings can be found at Lotus
Press with the with the URL

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lotuspress.com.
So before I formally invite

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Santosh to make his
presentation, I have something

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from Doctor Haydash Choudhury
from this book, The Prophet of

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Live Divine.
Instead of reading from his

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writings, I'm going to read a
paragraph.

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There's a very interesting story
behind this book.

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In 1998, even before I had gone
to San Francisco, this book was

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presented to me by my aunt, who
is a resident of the ashram.

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I pulled this book out from the
shelves and I thought that I

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should read something from the
book.

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It's from the section
Individuality and Activity

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conceived as compatible with
spiritual Illumination, Doctor

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Anita Sabri writes.
But is it not active cooperation

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with the creative impetus
incompatible with the attainment

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of the highest state of
spiritual illumination?

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Is not all action but blind
movement of the ignorance?

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Or in other words, do not all
works proceed from non

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discriminating self
identification of the spirit

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with nature?
That indeed is what the time

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honoured tradition of ascetic
mysticism would affirm.

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Moreover, perfect union with the
Supreme is affirmed to be

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destructive not only of activity
but of individuality itself.

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On the attainment of complete
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there is supposed to be a total
secession of all being in

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absolute not, or a static
absorption of the individual

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self in the supra individual
spirit.

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This removes even the remotest
possibility of all action.

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Dissolution of individuality not
only renders action impossible,

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but makes all talk of it
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The philosophy of integral non
dualism, however, exposes the

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untenability of this whole line
of thinking.

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It sheds a new light upon the
concept of individuality and

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activity.
It shows that they are perfectly

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compatible with the highest form
of liberation or spiritual

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illumination.
There is no reason why

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individuality should be
dissolved at the drawing of the

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sun of pure knowledge.
Individuality is emphatically

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not a product of ignorance or
Maya.

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What depends upon the action of
ignorance is the

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individualization of the lower
nature, the ego, the limited and

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unsatisfactory character of the
surface being.

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This is a beautiful section.
You know from this chapter the

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philosophical basis of Integral
Yoga, and I already gave you the

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section from which these lines
have been taken.

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Let's meditate on these words
for a couple of minutes, and

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then I formally invite Santosh
to make his presentation.

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And that you could begin.
Namaste, welcome all of our

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friends and Guru by here on this
auspicious occasion of being

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able to join with the Kundan and
the Cultural Integration

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Fellowship and the spirit of
Doctor Choudhury and Bina

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Choudhury, whom we very much
love and respect for their

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efforts.
Kundan made a little bit of a

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mistake this time and inviting
me to talk and that is he said

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speak about whatever you like.
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lot of ground today because I
don't often get that

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opportunity.
And for anybody who has any

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thoughts, questions or whatever,
I'm leaving some time at the end

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of the presentation for us to
share and to raise questions, to

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share your own ideas and
experience.

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And I encourage you, if you know
something comes up along the

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way, make a little note so we
don't lose it.

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And let's dive right in here.
The question today is what can

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each of us do to support the
evolution of consciousness?

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And the texture and background
of that is that we start out as

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ego personalities.
We feel we experience the world,

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we grow up and get
indoctrinated, if you will, into

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the idea that we are separate
from the rest of the creation

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and that somehow we have to
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expense of other aspects of the
creation.

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This is a dualistic perspective.
It also permeates spiritual

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practice of the past, which
Doctor Chowdhury and his

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paragraph so clearly
illustrated.

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The idea that my meditation, my
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something I do separate from my
life in the world and that I

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have to abandon the one in order
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And that is a again, a form of
dualism.

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And it remains rooted in ego,
the idea that I am separate and

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I can be saved while the rest of
creation can do whatever it

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pleases.
That creates for us a lot of

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confusion as we become awake and
aware of spiritual development.

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We say, well, we want to
meditate, we want to go on

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retreats, we want to do these
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And we create a duality in our
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We say, well, I don't have time
to do the meditation right now

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because I have to go to work.
We separate things into little

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compartments and that basically
keeps us small, weak and

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helpless.
When we face the world, we come

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out and we see all the problems
of the world.

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And we've gone over this in past
talks about the existential

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crisis of humanity, all of the
the myriad things that are vital

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and mental consciousness have
created that are threatening to

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destroy our very existence and
the need for an evolution of

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consciousness in order to save
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But we haven't yet understood
the oneness, the non dual

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nature, as Doctor Choudhury
points out of our existence.

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We are not separate from each
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from the world as a whole.
We are those things that we see,

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we participate in them, whether
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somewhere in a cave or a forest
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monastery, or we participate
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And so the question then comes
up, OK, we've tried political

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solutions.
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We've tried religious solutions,
we've tried uniformity, trying

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to make everybody fit into the
same bed of Procrustes that is

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somehow going to unify humanity.
And every one of these choices

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that we've made in the past,
over thousands of years have

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failed.
We are still faced with the same

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problems and the crisis has
grown because we haven't yet

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addressed the core issue.
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impressed me about the
philosophy and spirituality of

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India was the focus on the core
conception of finding out that

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being known, what gives?
In other words, knowing what

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being known tells us everything
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principle.
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the unity of our consciousness
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relationship to the world, we
have to find a way to make, as

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Sri Aurobindo points out, all
life into yoga.

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And what does that mean from the
grand perspective of the

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evolution of consciousness?
Trior Obindo points out that

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nature is undertaking an
evolution of consciousness, what

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he calls the yoga of nature, and
it can take millennia.

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Human beings, as they awaken to
their spiritual capacities, have

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the ability to consciously
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the yoga of nature.
That does not necessarily mean

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that some individual is going to
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humanity and somehow become
enlightened and everyone else is

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still left behind.
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individual practice and through
our relationship to the external

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world that we experienced
through our relationships with

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family, friends, acquaintances,
work colleagues and our work in

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the world, that there is an
interactive process that creates

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first of all, the texture of
consciousness within humanity

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that textures our vital nature,
our physical nature and our

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mental nature so that progress
beyond into a new level of

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consciousness becomes possible.
And secondly, that through our

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evolutionary development, we
vibrate back into that

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collectivity, that progress, and
thereby help all of humanity

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gain the platform, if you will,
of developing that next phase of

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consciousness.
We are not separate.

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We require a change of human
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People say it's impossible.
You can't straighten out a dog's

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tail.
They say, well, if we look at

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things, if we look at the
history of humanity, we see that

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actually a change of
consciousness is possible.

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It may be hard, it may take a
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In the context of an individual
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or 130 years, I think someone
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The longest living person has
now died, so 117 is where she

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was.
We don't see the change

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necessarily because the time
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the speed of our lives.
There is a a difference in you

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can say time dilation as they
would talk about in physics and

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astronomy nowadays so that the
human life doesn't see the

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impact over time.
But we can look back at history

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and we can see that huge changes
in fact are taking place that

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represent a new level of
consciousness.

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Look back 100 years and look to
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We see things that could not be
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I mean, think about it, 100
years ago, more or less women

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couldn't vote.
We didn't treat them as equal

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people in our society.
They had to follow the dictates

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of the male direction.
And nowadays we take the vote of

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women and the power of women for
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of the world.
Is the change complete?

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Not yet, but we can see the
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Europe has changed, United
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of the world have changed.
There's still change taking

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place, and there's still.
A resistance to it from those

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forces that want to maintain the
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That doesn't mean that a change
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place.
It means that it's still in

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process.
We see a new awareness of people

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all over the globe.
We see the Internet.

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We are able to join together in
meetings like this.

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We're able to watch television
and news cycles from all over

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the world, and suddenly we
understand the issues, the

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sufferings, the opportunities,
the cultural developments from

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all other places in the world.
When an earthquake occurs in

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Turkey and people are dying and
rushed there, the world responds

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and sends aid.
This is a new consciousness of

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unity of humanity that is slowly
starting to permeate.

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We see the development of things
like the United Nations as

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imperfect as it was formed
because the powers that were

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wanted to maintain the powers
that were.

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And so they set up things like,
you know, the Security Council

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veto, etcetera, which has been a
tremendous hindrance on the real

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power of the United Nations.
But nevertheless, the concept,

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the idea that humanity could
work together to solve problems

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together, to avoid wars, to
address worldwide issues became

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real.
It used to be that one Kingdom

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would fight another Kingdom and
one would become the emperor and

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one would become the vassal
state and the emperor would tell

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everyone what to do, collect
tribute, and that was it.

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Well, that time is changing.
We see a new awareness of the

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environment.
Go back to the 1950s only, which

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is 75 years.
Nobody really was talking about

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the issues of the toxic
pollution caused by our

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industrial revolution, the
issues of the chemicals that

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were going into the air, the
land and the water.

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No one was talking really about
the issues of climate change

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that we were greatly responsible
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And yet, Fast forward 70 years
and the world is now recognizing

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these things as serious and real
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We have the issue of increased
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This used to be something that
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somehow in his local life and
community woke up, became

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dissatisfied with what he saw as
the goals in front of him, and

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he went and tried to find out
what his spiritual purpose was,

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took up yoga or some kind of
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or whatever it might be.
This used to be an individual

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phenomenon.
Now it's a worldwide phenomenon,

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and we see people everywhere in
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who they are, what they are, why
they're here, and take up some

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form of spiritual practice.
We see new ideas about how we

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treat children.
We see the abolition of slavery

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in many parts of the world.
We see very, very serious issues

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of how we want to relate to each
other, the sensitivity, the idea

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that there are new ways to
relate rather than the former

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win lose psychology that has
controlled humanity for how many

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millennia.
So these are all signs of a new

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consciousness, but there is
actually another sign of a new

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consciousness that people don't
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the strength and the
aggressiveness of the resistance

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to it.
We see today an enormous

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resistance coming up, the idea
of authoritarianism, the idea of

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dictatorial control, the idea of
trying to roll back all these

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changes.
And these resistances actually

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are a sign that this new
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And those forces of the past,
those forces of the status quo,

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feel it, understand it
intuitively and reject it.

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And as they say, a cornered
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And so instead of becoming
concerned about, well, where is

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the change, we see all these
retrogressive forces highly

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active in our world.
We can appreciate that they

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actually are a sign of the new
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So once we recognize that a new
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possible, we have to look at,
first of all, how does it come

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about?
What do we, what do we do and

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how does that impact the
situation of that texturing of

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consciousness of the whole world
that needs to be coincident with

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our own individual action.
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individual, whoever you are,
wherever you are, has the

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opportunity to work on the
spiritual underpinnings of your

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life, change who I am, who you
are, and then through the

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radiation principle of that
energy, everyone else around us

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takes on some of that energy and
over time we create change.

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I have an interesting example.
Back in 1973, I was residing at

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Trior Bindo Ashram in
Pondicherry and for a short time

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I was working in the dishwashing
section and I had the

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opportunity to meet and observe
a man there by the name of Ram

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Krishna Das.
Many of you have met him or

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heard of him.
He was in his own right ahead of

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an ashram guru from Orissa, and
he had come to the ashram and he

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was in the dishwashing section.
He was drying plates and he had

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such a peaceful and radiant
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they would ask for his
blessings.

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And he was washing dishes.
And yet he had an impact on

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many, many thousands of people,
including people I know today,

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50 years later in the United
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The impact radiates.
We can't see it in our short

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human lives, but over time and
over space, that change

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radiates.
Now, we've all heard about the

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butterfly effect, OK?
And sometimes we laugh about the

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butterfly effect.
Oh, the butterfly in Indonesia

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is going to flap its wings and
the whole world's going to

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change.
And we joke about that.

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OK, fine.
Let's move beyond the butterfly

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effect for a moment and let's
talk about the tsunami effect.

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You have an earthquake somewhere
in Japan or Alaska or wherever

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it might be, and it starts at
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And the tsunami starts out as
maybe a one inch wave in the

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ocean.
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mass on the other side of the
world, it can be 10 or 20 or 30

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feet high.
The impact at the point of

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meeting another part of the
world is far greater than the

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observed starting point.
We talked about the avalanche

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effect, how a small snowball or
a boulder at the top of a

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mountain can roll down a
mountain and create an avalanche

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that buries villages.
Small starting point, large

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impact.
We look at throwing a rock into

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a pond.
Virtually everyone has done

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that.
They've watched throwing a rock

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into a pond and you see ripples
out and that's all great.

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That rock is very small.
The ripples are relatively

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small, but we don't internalize
the impact of that.

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But go ask a dinosaur about the
impact of a rock rippling in a

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pond.
A rock that was .08% of the mass

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of the earth, came with
sufficient concentration and

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force into one spot on the earth
and wiped out most of the life

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on the planet, including the
dinosaurs that had lived here

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for how many years?
How many hundreds of thousands

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or millions of years a rock
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Not even 1% of the mass of the
earth had such an impact.

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Granted, it came with
concentrated force, it came with

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momentum when it hit, but that
is the type of work that each

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one of us can do in our own
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As we develop in our spiritual
practice and concentrate that

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force, we can have an outsized
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I speak to people sometimes
about what I call the 1%

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solution.
If you have a straight line of

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where humanity is going and
you're able to change the

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trajectory in your time, even by
1% / 400 years, you're going to

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be this far different in terms
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And so people say, well OK,
there's 8 billion people on the

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planet, what can I do?
Well, everyone contributes to

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that texturing of consciousness,
but people who are awake and

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aware and focused have an out
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You don't have 88 billion
equally influencing people on

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the planet.
We look at.

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We have an example here in the
United States of someone by the

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name of Johnny Appleseed.
OK, now he was a a pastor and he

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ran a nursery and he went around
a number of States and arranged

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to have thousands of apple trees
planted.

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And even today people are eating
apples in this country because

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Johnny Appleseed went out and
did what he did.

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So we say, OK, well, we see
many, many such examples.

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Obviously, names percolate to
the top.

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When we think about it, Da Vinci
and Beethoven and Shrioro Bindo

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and who knows who else is out
there there.

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There's so many names, Doctor
Chowdhury, who have outsized

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influence.
We see people that you may never

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have heard of.
There was Catherine Long and the

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Lady Doubting in the United
Kingdom, and back in 1963 they

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decided that they wanted to
address the issue of animal

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testing of cosmetics, the
torturing of animals so that we

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could have cosmetics.
So they started a movement

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called Beauty Without Cruelty in
1963.

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And who's ever heard of these
people?

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But everybody today knows about
the cruelty free pledge of

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cosmetics all over the planet.
And most people have started to

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hear that there are countries
all over the world who are

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banning the testing of cosmetics
on animals.

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Who thought back at that time
that these people starting a

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small concept company could have
that effect?

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Now I'm a I'm a Direct Line of
descendant from them because I

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wound up buying the Beauty
Without Cruelty brand here in

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the United States some years
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And I carry on their legacy in
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But other than that, who else
has heard of them?

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So when we think about it,
instead of feeling like I'm just

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so small and insignificant, what
can I do?

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Instead of getting depressed
about how big the problems are

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and how small I am, I suggest
that everybody do whatever you

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can do.
And you will have an outsize

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influence compared to billions
of other people on the planet

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just by being who you are and
doing what you do and being

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awake and carrying that
consciousness into your

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relationships, into your work,
into your educational practice,

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into your retirement.
Now I hear many people, you

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know, it's like I've worked my
whole life and, and now I'm

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retired and I just want to enjoy
myself.

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OK.
When you really talk to these

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people, you find out that they
feel like their lives are empty

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in many cases.
And the mother has said an

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aimless life is a meaningless
life.

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So take your retirement and turn
it into something beneficial,

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whether it's creating beauty in
the world, whether it's raising

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beautiful plants, whether it's
volunteering and doing

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something, whether it's just
being a good influence and a

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peaceful, happy person relating
to the people around you.

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It has an influence.
We've heard about the 100th

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monkey phenomenon, and let's
talk about that for a moment

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because that's really very
interesting.

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Some people were studying a
tribe of monkeys, I think it was

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in Southeast Asia or Indonesia
somewhere, and they found that

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one monkey was washing its fruit
before eating.

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And as they continued observing,
they found that other monkeys

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began to adopt that practice.
And then eventually virtually

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the whole tribe of monkeys there
started washing their fruit.

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What they didn't expect was that
at a certain point, when all the

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monkeys in that tribe were
washing their fruit, monkeys the

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world over began to wash their
fruit.

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Now they didn't have the benefit
of telephones, Internet, and all

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those other things.
They had the benefit of what TR

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Deschardins calls the nuosphere,
the the sphere of mental energy,

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just as we have a biosphere, the
sphere of vital energy that

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permeates the world.
And when enough monkeys focused

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on the same issue, other monkeys
who became receptive to that

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vibration somewhere else in the
world were able to pick it up.

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And we see the same thing
happening in humanity.

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So the challenge for each of us,
when we think about how small

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and insignificant we are, is
which one of us may actually be

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the 100th monkey for humanity.
How do we know?

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We won't know, but that is one
of the challenges in front of us

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that we have an opportunity for.
So what are the qualities we

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should inculcate?
Because not all of us can do

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deep meditation and not all of
us can do big works of some

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sort.
You know, if you have the

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capability to do things that
impact climate change or green

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energy or helpful food
production or whatever also,

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then do it, please.
But if you're living your life

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and that's all you can do,
whatever work you take up, try

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to do it with the right spirit,
that yogic presence.

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Radiate the qualities of peace,
harmony, balance, light,

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goodwill, compassion, reduce
egoism, respect for all beings

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and appreciate the power of
truth.

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If we do that, we begin to see
changes in the way other people

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relate to us.
And we see changes, in many

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cases slowly, albeit because
people are dealing with their

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own issues in the people around
us.

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And eventually we can build a
culture of consciousness.

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So then we come to, OK, you
can't deal with maybe climate

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change is too big for you, or
stopping the Arab Israeli war is

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too big a thing for you to take
on yourself.

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That's OK.
If you've done what you can do,

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at least support those projects
that represent the change you

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want to see happen.
If you can volunteer, volunteer.

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If you can support them with
your goodwill and your

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encouragement, and that's all
you can do, do it.

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If you happen to have money and
you can give money to them, give

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money to them because they need
money to operate energy in order

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to operate.
That brings us even to the

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project of Oroville, which we've
talked about before.

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Oroville is a mother's project
to create a laboratory to tackle

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the human issues and the human
issues of clean water, clean

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energy, the food issues because
we see the collapse of the

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ocean, fisheries which are going
to impact a billion people on

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this planet for their very
survival.

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These type of issues are being
taken up with various programs

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in Oroville, the dealing with
how we can waste less doing

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things so that we're not
creating so much toxic pollution

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in production and masses of
toxic materials on the back end

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that we don't know what to do
with.

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They're working on Desalina
Tion, they're working on solar

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energy mini grid, they're
working on a high protein hemp

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and algae foods.
There's many, many projects

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there, but beyond the projects,
they also have the opportunity

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to face the one thing that
humanity has never, ever solved

457
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,840
in all of our thousands of
years, and that is to address

458
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,320
the issue of human unity in a
way that isn't purely

459
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,440
uniformity.
It's highly audacious to say

460
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,840
let's tackle human unity and
bring people from all different

461
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,480
backgrounds, cultures,
countries, languages, mindsets,

462
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,240
educational interests, etcetera,
and let's bring them into one

463
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,360
place together and let them
figure out how to do governance

464
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,560
of 1 and of of one community
together.

465
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,320
What do you think the odds of
success of that are first time

466
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,960
out?
You know, we have an apocryphal

467
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,720
story of our The Invention of
the Light bulb by Thomas Edison.

468
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,440
And when I was a young child, I
lived in a place called Menlo

469
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,520
Park Terrace, which was right
next to Menlo Park, NJ, where

470
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,840
Thomas Edison did his work.
So I got to hear all these

471
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:34,680
stories, and they may or may not
be true, but he once said that

472
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:38,960
in order to invent the light
bulb, he failed 1000 times.

473
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,120
He tried one thing, it didn't
work.

474
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,680
He tried another thing, it
didn't work.

475
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,160
He didn't give up.
And eventually we can flip a

476
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,120
switch and we can have light.
And so that's a symbol for us of

477
00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,280
what Oroville has to do to
succeed at figuring out how

478
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,760
humanity is going to learn to
live together in peace and

479
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,040
harmony on this planet and solve
its big issues.

480
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Take up the issues but also deal
with the governance issues.

481
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,480
And they are trying and have
tried many, many of the

482
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960
different solutions that
humanity has failed at in the

483
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920
past.
And they failed equally as much

484
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,360
because those are not the
solutions.

485
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,480
But what's interesting is they
go back and they say, OK, let's

486
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480
see if we can find another way.
And so they set up a group

487
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,280
called Dream Weavers or Heart
Weavers, and they bring people

488
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,160
together and they look at their
failures and they try to find a

489
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,320
way forward.
They haven't yet succeeded, but

490
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,560
the good thing is they haven't
yet given up.

491
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,400
And so to me, that's really one
of the most important things, if

492
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:03,560
you will, is we've got an
opportunity there to contribute

493
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,040
to the solving of this problem.
Now people see that communities

494
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,600
unify based on an external
threat.

495
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,960
And so now the popular
literature is filled with alien

496
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,160
invasions, and that's supposed
to be something that everyone is

497
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,480
afraid of, and that's going to
bring us together somehow.

498
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
We're going to all fight the
aliens or whatever it might be

499
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,560
that that they think it is.
But actually, I think the threat

500
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,600
is closer to home.
I think the threat is our own

501
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,760
existential crisis, the 6th
planetary die off that we are

502
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,840
facing right now, right here,
right now.

503
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,320
We don't need aliens to wipe us
out.

504
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,120
We're prepared to do it to
ourselves.

505
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
And so this need to be
addressed.

506
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,080
And as we wake up to this, we
have the unifying factor that

507
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,960
can bring humanity together, the
appreciation at some point that

508
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,520
all of the wars, all the mass
migrations, all of the toxic

509
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:27,200
chemicals are things that really
we have to face and confront and

510
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,360
solve.
And So what can we do?

511
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:39,200
OK, I mean, we've got address
climate change, we've talked

512
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,400
about, OK, what can you do about
that?

513
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Well, you might be able to do
solar vehicles, reduce your

514
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,600
energy waste, etcetera.
One of the big things that that

515
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,120
people don't realize is one of
the greatest causes of climate

516
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,160
change, global warming, happens
to be the raising and eating of

517
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,240
animal foods.
And OK, not everybody is

518
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:10,160
prepared at this moment to go
vegan, but just think, if you

519
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,440
cut your use of animal foods by
10% or 15% and start to

520
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:21,240
substitute in your diet, that
has its impact, a positive

521
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:27,080
impact on climate change,
possibly also on your health.

522
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,160
And reduce all those pains and
sufferings that people have

523
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,240
because of the animal food
production, the deforestation

524
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:42,040
that goes with that conservation
of water.

525
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,920
We have a huge water crisis in
this world because fresh water

526
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,040
is being squandered, lost and
misused.

527
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,040
And with the rise of the Seas
and the melting of the glaciers,

528
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,400
we're actually accentuating the
freshwater crisis.

529
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,880
We have a similar issue with
virtually everything you see in

530
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,520
the world.
You can do something about it

531
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:16,400
whatever interests you.
This is not a one-size-fits-all

532
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,600
solution.
Everybody finds their own things

533
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,960
that they can do to fix
something, to work on something

534
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,960
to create beauty and harmony in
the world.

535
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:36,640
Mainly to focus your time,
energy, and attention on being a

536
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,320
benefit to yourself and others
on the planet.

537
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,440
So with that, let's open it up
for conversation.

538
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,120
I'm sure people will agree with
me that I did not err in giving

539
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,840
you the topic that you chose.
We should speak on anything that

540
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,200
you want.
Thank you very much.

541
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,480
That was absolutely,
particularly from the

542
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,080
perspective of participating in
the creation of new

543
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:29,880
consciousness, which is the
central pursuit of integrity.

544
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Yorker I see Margaret's hand up.
So Margaret is a nature self and

545
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:44,160
come in.
Thank you so much, Santosh.

546
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:51,720
I, I think it's always good to
mention what's impactful for the

547
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,040
person.
And for me, the fact that you

548
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:06,680
mentioned the timeline upfront
that well, first of all, that

549
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:12,000
the actions are not always seen
and that the timeline is such

550
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,880
that it may occur after your
lifetime.

551
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:23,200
I think that helping people take
that in at a deeper level, you

552
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:31,560
know, we're so our egos are so
much into I want to see my

553
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,400
impact, right?
So along with the shift in

554
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,920
consciousness that you're
advocating, that shift in

555
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,360
consciousness will help us with
that timeline issue, right?

556
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Also, I just wanted to mention
that I think for myself and many

557
00:50:52,200 --> 00:51:05,000
others, we've had a real sort of
in your face version of this in

558
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:12,440
the United States of the outer
looking bleak, put it this way

559
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:20,120
or can't not not being able to
face or handle what looks like

560
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,400
what's coming.
And I really want to emphasize

561
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:32,520
that working with force and
mother and Triara Bendo's force

562
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,920
helped Get Me Out of that
orientation so that I could be

563
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:47,360
functional.
And so it's like a, a, a preview

564
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,720
of whatever we are going to face
that looks dire.

565
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,520
If we've had an experience of
making that shift, then it can

566
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,280
become our way of being for the
next crisis, right.

567
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,520
So anyway, I wanted to thank you
for your how you orientated us

568
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,600
to these very important shifts.
Thank you.

569
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Well, thank you.
And you know, Johnny Appleseed

570
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,280
didn't get to eat all those
apples.

571
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:34,250
That's right.
So there was just a big

572
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:39,730
convention in Chicago, and I'm
reminded that what we heard from

573
00:52:39,730 --> 00:52:42,210
many speakers was the same
thing.

574
00:52:42,370 --> 00:52:47,010
They said do something.
They didn't tell you what to do

575
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:52,600
and they said do something and
don't delay too long about it,

576
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Do something bow.
So it just reminded me.

577
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:11,980
Thank you.
Well, it's not often that we

578
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:19,060
basically talk people into
silence here, so it's

579
00:53:19,060 --> 00:53:26,920
interesting, but anybody else
want to add any points to our

580
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,760
discussion here, Something that
you found valuable or beneficial

581
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,720
in your life to move things
forward?

582
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,760
I can fill in till people think
about this question.

583
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:50,000
What I really appreciated was at
the beginning of your talk.

584
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,360
How?
You're talking about the shifts

585
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,760
in consciousness that have
happened in the last few

586
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,600
decades, things that we have
started taking for granted, but

587
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,200
they didn't really exist that
particular way.

588
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:15,840
So, you know, that sort of
trajectory put us on a positive

589
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:21,840
note, which I really appreciate.
And then, of course, you know,

590
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,160
you start talking about
different problems that exist

591
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:32,120
that we collectively face as
humanity and then coming to how

592
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:39,480
we can think about the changes.
And what was very important was

593
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,560
that we don't really have to
think big.

594
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,760
You know, we can make small
changes and these small changes

595
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,080
will have and impact in the
future.

596
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,800
And if we are really concerned
about the 'cause if we are

597
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,280
really concerned about the
nature of transformation, the

598
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:07,600
way I interpreted it was that it
doesn't really matter whether we

599
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,360
are alive in this body to see
the change or not, but the fact

600
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,200
that the change will happen, the
change itself is going to take

601
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080
its new course.
That was something which was

602
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,160
very good.
Yes, and that's also something

603
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,520
that Sri Krishna mentions to
Arjuna and the Bhagwad Gita,

604
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,680
that whether you participate or
not, all these warriors on the

605
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,640
other side are already destined
to die because change is

606
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,320
happening.
But you are a protagonist in

607
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,680
your time, in your circumstance
to help that along.

608
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,440
Don't take it personally, just
deal with it.

609
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:08,620
Yes, Sean, thank you, Santosh
for your enlightening talk.

610
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:13,940
I'm wondering whether you could
share maybe about your own

611
00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:18,740
experience on maybe the
difference of the contribution

612
00:56:18,740 --> 00:56:21,540
we can make at different stages
of our lives.

613
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:25,680
Because when we're, let's say in
our 20s or in our 30s, we

614
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,320
probably don't have the same
kind of contribution to the

615
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,040
evolution of consciousness as
later stages in life.

616
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,440
And also finding this balance
between being sometimes just

617
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,240
being here with consciousness as
a witness is sufficient to, you

618
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,960
know, provoke change or provoke,
you know, whatever.

619
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,600
And sometimes we need to to do
more the karma yoga.

620
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,160
So could you, I don't know,
maybe share on, on your

621
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,720
experience or your point of view
on these, on these aspects?

622
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:56,160
Well, sure.
You know, when I was in high

623
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,280
school, I took jobs, whatever
jobs I could get at that time

624
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,920
because I needed to earn some
money.

625
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,320
I wasn't involved in any yogic
practice or anything.

626
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,600
But one thing I did take away
from it and also in my schooling

627
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,440
was I tried to give it 100% and
I tried to do it cheerfully.

628
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,120
I didn't go to work grumbling
and saying, oh, what a rotten

629
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,280
job.
This is why I just have to go

630
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,720
make money.
I went there and said I've been

631
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,720
granted the opportunity to
participate and earn some money

632
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,160
here, let me do it with full
energy, full enjoyment, full

633
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,880
concentration, full involvement.
And I got through school that

634
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
way.
And when I got to college, I got

635
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:46,480
a little lost and dropped out of
college after something of a,

636
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,440
what you might call a near death
experience.

637
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840
And after seeing the futility of
a lot of the political and other

638
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,040
actions that were taking place
to try and stop the war in

639
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,720
Vietnam and went to Europe and
started studying and practicing

640
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,640
yoga.
And that's actually where I came

641
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,720
in touch with Sri Aurobindo.
But the attitude that I took as

642
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,200
a young person is something I
encourage young people to

643
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:23,880
undertake, that I encourage the
children of my family to do and

644
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,880
they encourage their children to
do.

645
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,400
And that is do whatever you do
with a goodwill, with the best

646
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,840
effort you can make, concentrate
on it and and really try to make

647
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,320
that work as you go into
careers.

648
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,280
It's the same thing.
It may not be the ideal job of,

649
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,480
you know, changing the planet,
but do it with a goodwill and

650
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:55,240
relate to people in a way that's
respectful and honest and

651
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,480
compassionate.
And that will automatically

652
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,640
change the texture of your
community of people that are

653
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
around you and how maybe they
react to things.

654
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:16,480
If you become affluent through
your work and you have extra

655
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,600
money.
Well, I always felt like trust

656
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,840
fund babies tend to have bad
outcomes.

657
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,400
It's just a history.
It's one thing to let your

658
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,320
children have a certain amount
of resources to to carry out

659
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,320
their lives with.
It's another thing to make them

660
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,640
mega millionaires.
We see how that's turned out on

661
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,280
our political stages.
Michael might point out to us

662
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,360
having just gone through a
convention illustrating what

663
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,480
disasters a trust fund baby has
created in this country.

664
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,960
They just don't have a
perspective.

665
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000
And so if you've got extra
wealth.

666
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Take some of it and dedicate it
to the work that your children

667
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,360
are doing.
That's fine.

668
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,680
And take some of it and apply it
to whatever projects or

669
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,080
opportunities or groups you find
are doing a good work.

670
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:31,680
And, you know, create a legacy
that outlives you by forwarding

671
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,880
the projects.
If you're a retired person, make

672
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,880
your life valuable to yourself
and others.

673
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,480
Don't just vegetate and think, I
work my whole life and so now I

674
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,840
just get to knock off.
And if you're in a field that

675
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:57,200
can do something, invent a new
energy or find a way to be more

676
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,440
economical of energy or help
with fresh water, whatever it

677
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,560
might be, then of course you're
already doing something concrete

678
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:13,040
at the inflection point.
So I think I've covered all the

679
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,000
different gamuts of life.
If you're, if you've got health

680
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,040
issues and you're, you know,
you're bound to a bed and you're

681
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,200
struggling and suffering and you
feel like you can't do anything.

682
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,120
Well, my wife actually tells a
story.

683
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,440
She was doing Hospice for a
while and there was a lady in

684
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:37,640
Hospice and she was always
extremely cheerful.

685
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,840
And then she decided she was
getting close to her time of

686
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,080
death.
And now she wasn't practicing

687
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,760
yoga or doing any of these
things.

688
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,120
She was just there in Hospice
struggling with her declining

689
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,200
health.
And so she said, I need a little

690
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,840
help.
I want to get some notes

691
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,320
written.
I want to give this to this

692
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,160
person who can use it and this
to that person who can use it.

693
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,360
And she started distributing all
the little things she had in her

694
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,760
life to people who would find a
benefit from it.

695
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,400
And when she was done, she
smiled and she said, I've

696
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
completed everything now I can
die peacefully.

697
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:24,680
So even people in Hospice, even
people suffering health issues

698
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:30,800
that are preventing them from
doing anything else, have the

699
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,480
opportunity to contribute to the
evolution of consciousness.

700
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,000
Thank you, Santosh.
Thank you very much and thank

701
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:57,040
you, Quinton.
Wayne, please unmute yourself

702
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,000
and come in.
OK, well thanks for letting me

703
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,720
speak.
Just wanted to before I forget,

704
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,360
I want to thank Condon for for
his book.

705
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,560
It fits so well in my spiritual
practice.

706
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,240
It's my framework now.
It explained a lot of things to

707
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,800
me.
So thank you so much for the

708
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,520
book.
And Santosh, I want to thank you

709
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:25,360
so much for that Sri Aravendo
study that you publish.

710
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,200
I, I'm, I'm, I'm there every
day.

711
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,360
So it's great.
So let me get to the point here.

712
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:39,200
When I retired six years ago and
I'm all, I'm 70 now, something

713
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,520
ringing my I've traveled a bit
and I was in a Peace Corps in

714
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,040
Ukraine.
I've done a lot of weird things.

715
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,080
And, but after I retired,
traveling and doing something

716
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,840
for myself didn't seem to be
very productive, except one

717
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,760
thing I could do was make myself
the best I could be in body,

718
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,600
mind and spirit.
Now I don't know where that came

719
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,960
from.
I did practice yoga, but it's

720
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,600
hatha yoga off and on for about
40 years.

721
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,120
But that's what I decided to do
best, best I could be in, in

722
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,360
body, mind and spirit.
And so that that's, that's what

723
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,200
I did.
And rather than travel or try to

724
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:20,240
do things for myself and I put
my faith in, in, in God and, or

725
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,800
supreme being or whatever you
want to call.

726
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,000
And since then, of course, I've,
I've discovered arrobendo and,

727
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,840
and I've found some other
western philosophers, but not

728
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,360
putting myself first above
everything, realizing there's

729
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,720
other things more important than
me and that I can.

730
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,400
And I'm, I'm the happiest I've
ever been in my entire life.

731
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,240
And my life has not been very
happy.

732
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,200
So I'm very blessed to be a
member of this group and it's

733
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,760
been a life changer for me.
I've, I've, I've, I've really,

734
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,960
but basically starting with
yourself is the best place to

735
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,040
begin if you want to find
something, start with yourself

736
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,120
and make all the changes you
possibly can that will make the

737
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,880
world a better place.
And, and then, then you can

738
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,600
branch out into other things
because like I say, I'm kind of

739
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,920
a professional volunteer.
I can tell you lots of stories

740
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,440
about that.
Sometimes rewarding and

741
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,080
sometimes not so rewarding and
you really don't even want to do

742
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,040
it for the reward.
You want to do it for just the

743
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:27,760
cause and forget about reward,
but that's kind of my my $0.02

744
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200
worth.
And this is incredible stuff to

745
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,200
talk about.
I love it and hope we can all

746
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,400
change the world.
Thank you.

747
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,560
Well.
Thank you.

748
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:49,290
Thank you.
Yes, I went mute yourself.

749
01:05:51,090 --> 01:05:52,730
OK.
Hi Santosh.

750
01:05:53,330 --> 01:05:57,080
First of all, I want to thank
you for a very relevant and

751
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,840
wonderful talk.
I think the question that you've

752
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,600
got is what 1 can do in
different phases of life as

753
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,880
somebody asked.
It bothers everybody and one,

754
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,720
everybody has to deal with it.
I think you explain it very

755
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,520
nicely that whatever we do, it
will have an impact.

756
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,480
We may not be able to see that
in the short run.

757
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,120
Thinking of that aspect, I think
in the current world,

758
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,440
information and data is a big
power.

759
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,680
We even if you're not doing
anything, we always share

760
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,360
information that different,
different ways and different

761
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,840
modes.
So that itself is a poor.

762
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:41,200
I think one point while sharing
that, I think if if we can use a

763
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,200
lot of judgement and make sure
that we share the data and

764
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,120
information which is only
constructive and positive, that

765
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,240
goes a long way in bringing
about small changes.

766
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,440
I feel that personally.
Well, when interacting with

767
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,040
people and also sharing the
information, that reminds me of

768
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,520
one of the quotation from Lao
Tzu, a very beautiful quotation.

769
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,680
Remember.
So one man sits at his home and

770
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,480
there's noble thoughts,
beautiful thoughts and the

771
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,840
reverberations are heard
thousands of miles.

772
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,760
There is so much true in the
present world that we all share

773
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:27,000
information and talk about it.
So one big thing I think we all

774
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,080
the way of doing whatever we
learn is keep spreading it and

775
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040
share it with joy.
That it said will create a field

776
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
and domain.
I feel that personally.

777
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,560
Thank you for a very wonderful
talk.

778
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:47,480
Well, thank you.
Yeah.

779
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:59,240
Thank you.
OK, it seems that we are

780
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:07,480
naturally coming to an end of
this wonderful gathering.

781
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,160
Thank you once again.
Thank you so much.

782
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,000
We really enjoyed it.
It was absolutely.

783
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,040
Thank you, Santosh.
Thank you.

784
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,680
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

785
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,840
Take care.
Everyone stayed at night for me.

786
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,399
It's time to say goodnight.
Take care.

787
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:31,319
Goodnight.
Thank you.

788
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:31,680
Thank you.