July 2, 2024
Vital and Mental Life Forms Interact With Us in the Material World
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch.6 Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary Forces, pp.137-139 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/06/28/vital-and-mental-life-forms-interact-with-us-in-the-material-world/
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1
00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,520
We scour the Galaxy for signs of
intelligent life elsewhere.
2
00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,640
The reality is that unless an
extraterrestrial race has found
3
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,680
a way to circumvent the constant
of the speed of light through
4
00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,560
some method of folding space or
creating wormholes that truncate
5
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,240
the distance to be travelled,
setting up a multi thousand year
6
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,880
multi generational Starship to
visit other solar systems, or
7
00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,400
possibly finding a way to travel
safely at speeds far in excess
8
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,800
of the speed of light.
It is not likely nor feasible
9
00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,040
that such extraterrestrial
beings residing in other
10
00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,680
planetary systems in other parts
of the Galaxy or further away in
11
00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,000
other galaxies will be able to
visit us.
12
00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,760
Reports of UFO phenomena should
be investigated not only as to
13
00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,480
whether there has been
interstellar travel by an
14
00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,120
extraterrestrial race or new
discoveries by humanity that
15
00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,160
lead to harnessing of powers
that exhibit these forms of
16
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,160
motion, but also whether such
things are potentially evidence
17
00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,640
of mental or vital beings
manifesting the capability of
18
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,480
solidifying vibrations into
forms that can be observed and
19
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,040
interact with our physical
reality.
20
00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:30,920
Another point often overlooked
is that consciousness may
21
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,480
actually move faster than light
and is not bound by distance.
22
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,640
We have always been wedded in
our thinking about physical
23
00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,480
beings transporting themselves
in physical vehicles across
24
00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,120
galactic or intergalactic
distances.
25
00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,520
However, we may also consider
that beings project
26
00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,800
consciousness and when they
reach a proposed destination,
27
00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,720
they use elements they find
there to build the locally
28
00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,040
needed physical bodies and
vehicles.
29
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760
We have found clues of other
life forms right here where we
30
00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,160
are, but we largely disregard
the significance of the clues we
31
00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,240
have received.
We tend to disregard the fact
32
00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,120
that with the extended ability
to observe microscopic levels,
33
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,240
we have an indeed discovered
that life exists at the single
34
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000
cell level.
This, however, is not
35
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960
necessarily the most significant
clue we have.
36
00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,880
We now understand that there are
ranges of vibration to which our
37
00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,040
senses are not accessible.
As we explore further, we begin
38
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,040
to see that there are vital
forces, mental forces and
39
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,440
spiritual forces active, which
influence and act upon us even
40
00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600
though we cannot directly
perceive them.
41
00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,840
Many people bring back reports
of beings that interact with
42
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,360
them through dreams, trance, out
of body experiences,
43
00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,280
extraordinary experiences, near
death experiences, et cetera,
44
00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,000
which correlate with what we
know of the energetic forces
45
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,960
that we can identify.
It is not a very big leap to
46
00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,400
accept that the forces we
experience are in many cases
47
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,040
expressions of fully conscious,
intentional beings who are
48
00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,320
acting out of their own motives
and self-interest, or at the
49
00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,840
very least playing their defined
role in the manifestation of the
50
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:40,320
divine action in the universe,
Sri Aurobindo writes quote.
51
00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,360
But the contacts do not stop
here, for there is also an
52
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,480
opening of our mind and life
parts to a great range of
53
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,560
subjective, objective
experiences in which these
54
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,480
planes present themselves no
longer as extensions of
55
00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,400
subjective being and
consciousness, but as worlds.
56
00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,840
For the experiences there are
organized as they are in our own
57
00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,560
world, but on a different plan,
with a different process and law
58
00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,320
of action, and in a substance
which belongs to a superphysical
59
00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,079
nature.
This organization includes, as
60
00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,760
on on earth, the existence of
beings who have or take forms,
61
00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,640
manifest themselves, or are
naturally manifested in an
62
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embodying substance, but a
substance other than ours, a
63
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subtle substance tangible only
to subtle sense, a superphysical
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form, matter.
These worlds and beings may have
65
00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,600
nothing to do with ourselves and
our life.
66
00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480
They may exercise no action upon
us.
67
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,480
But often also they enter into
secret communication with Earth
68
00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,480
existence, obey or embody, and
are the intermediaries and
69
00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,000
instruments of the cosmic powers
and influences of which we have
70
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,760
a subjective experience or
themselves act.
71
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By their own initiation upon the
terrestrial world's life and
72
00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:17,480
motives and happenings.
It is possible to receive help
73
00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,760
or guidance or harm or
misguidance from these beings.
74
00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,680
It is possible even to become
subject to their influence, to
75
00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,680
be possessed by their invasion
or domination, to be
76
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320
instrumentalized by them for
their good or evil purpose.
77
00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:39,680
At times the progress of earthly
life seems to be a vast field of
78
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,880
battle between superphysical
forces of either character,
79
00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,840
those that strive to uplift,
encourage and illumine, and
80
00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,840
those that strive to deflect,
depress or prevent or even
81
00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:59,920
shatter our upward evolution or
the soul's self-expression in
82
00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:04,480
the material universe.
Some of these beings, powers or
83
00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080
forces are such that we think of
them as divine.
84
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,880
They are luminous, benignant, or
powerfully helpful.
85
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,040
There are others that are
Titanic, gigantic or demoniac,
86
00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,280
inordinate influences,
instigators or creators, often
87
00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,600
of vast and formidable inner
upheavals or of actions that
88
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,360
overpass the normal human
measure.
89
00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,520
There may also be an awareness
of influences, presences, beings
90
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,120
that do not seem to belong to
other worlds beyond us, but are
91
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,280
here as a hidden element behind
the veil in terrestrial nature.
92
00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,760
As contact with the
superphysical is possible, a
93
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,760
contact can also take place,
subjective or objective, or at
94
00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,720
least objectivized, between our
own consciousness and the
95
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,920
consciousness of other once
embodied beings who have passed
96
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,800
into a super physical status in
these other regions of
97
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,040
existence.
It is possible also to pass
98
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:17,680
beyond a subjective contact or a
subtle sense perception, and in
99
00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,960
certain subliminal states of
consciousness to enter actually
100
00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960
into other worlds and know
something of their secrets.
101
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,200
It is the more objective order
of otherworldly experience that
102
00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,560
sees most the imagination of
mankind and the past.
103
00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,440
But it was put by popular belief
into a gross objective statement
104
00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,400
which unduly assimilated these
phenomena to those of the
105
00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,840
physical world with which we are
familiar.
106
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For it is the normal tendency of
our mind to turn everything into
107
00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,320
forms or symbols proper to its
own kind and terms of
108
00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,600
experience.
End Quote Reference Sri
109
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,920
Aurobindo and the Mother The
Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter 6
110
00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,200
Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary
Forces, pages 137 to 139.
00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,520
We scour the Galaxy for signs of
intelligent life elsewhere.
2
00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,640
The reality is that unless an
extraterrestrial race has found
3
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,680
a way to circumvent the constant
of the speed of light through
4
00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,560
some method of folding space or
creating wormholes that truncate
5
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,240
the distance to be travelled,
setting up a multi thousand year
6
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,880
multi generational Starship to
visit other solar systems, or
7
00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,400
possibly finding a way to travel
safely at speeds far in excess
8
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,800
of the speed of light.
It is not likely nor feasible
9
00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,040
that such extraterrestrial
beings residing in other
10
00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,680
planetary systems in other parts
of the Galaxy or further away in
11
00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,000
other galaxies will be able to
visit us.
12
00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,760
Reports of UFO phenomena should
be investigated not only as to
13
00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,480
whether there has been
interstellar travel by an
14
00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,120
extraterrestrial race or new
discoveries by humanity that
15
00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,160
lead to harnessing of powers
that exhibit these forms of
16
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,160
motion, but also whether such
things are potentially evidence
17
00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,640
of mental or vital beings
manifesting the capability of
18
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,480
solidifying vibrations into
forms that can be observed and
19
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,040
interact with our physical
reality.
20
00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:30,920
Another point often overlooked
is that consciousness may
21
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,480
actually move faster than light
and is not bound by distance.
22
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,640
We have always been wedded in
our thinking about physical
23
00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,480
beings transporting themselves
in physical vehicles across
24
00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,120
galactic or intergalactic
distances.
25
00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,520
However, we may also consider
that beings project
26
00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,800
consciousness and when they
reach a proposed destination,
27
00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,720
they use elements they find
there to build the locally
28
00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,040
needed physical bodies and
vehicles.
29
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760
We have found clues of other
life forms right here where we
30
00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,160
are, but we largely disregard
the significance of the clues we
31
00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,240
have received.
We tend to disregard the fact
32
00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,120
that with the extended ability
to observe microscopic levels,
33
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,240
we have an indeed discovered
that life exists at the single
34
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000
cell level.
This, however, is not
35
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960
necessarily the most significant
clue we have.
36
00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,880
We now understand that there are
ranges of vibration to which our
37
00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,040
senses are not accessible.
As we explore further, we begin
38
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,040
to see that there are vital
forces, mental forces and
39
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,440
spiritual forces active, which
influence and act upon us even
40
00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600
though we cannot directly
perceive them.
41
00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,840
Many people bring back reports
of beings that interact with
42
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,360
them through dreams, trance, out
of body experiences,
43
00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,280
extraordinary experiences, near
death experiences, et cetera,
44
00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,000
which correlate with what we
know of the energetic forces
45
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,960
that we can identify.
It is not a very big leap to
46
00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,400
accept that the forces we
experience are in many cases
47
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,040
expressions of fully conscious,
intentional beings who are
48
00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,320
acting out of their own motives
and self-interest, or at the
49
00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,840
very least playing their defined
role in the manifestation of the
50
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:40,320
divine action in the universe,
Sri Aurobindo writes quote.
51
00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,360
But the contacts do not stop
here, for there is also an
52
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,480
opening of our mind and life
parts to a great range of
53
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,560
subjective, objective
experiences in which these
54
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,480
planes present themselves no
longer as extensions of
55
00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,400
subjective being and
consciousness, but as worlds.
56
00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,840
For the experiences there are
organized as they are in our own
57
00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,560
world, but on a different plan,
with a different process and law
58
00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,320
of action, and in a substance
which belongs to a superphysical
59
00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,079
nature.
This organization includes, as
60
00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,760
on on earth, the existence of
beings who have or take forms,
61
00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,640
manifest themselves, or are
naturally manifested in an
62
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,240
embodying substance, but a
substance other than ours, a
63
00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,680
subtle substance tangible only
to subtle sense, a superphysical
64
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,200
form, matter.
These worlds and beings may have
65
00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,600
nothing to do with ourselves and
our life.
66
00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480
They may exercise no action upon
us.
67
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,480
But often also they enter into
secret communication with Earth
68
00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,480
existence, obey or embody, and
are the intermediaries and
69
00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,000
instruments of the cosmic powers
and influences of which we have
70
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,760
a subjective experience or
themselves act.
71
00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,840
By their own initiation upon the
terrestrial world's life and
72
00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:17,480
motives and happenings.
It is possible to receive help
73
00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,760
or guidance or harm or
misguidance from these beings.
74
00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,680
It is possible even to become
subject to their influence, to
75
00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,680
be possessed by their invasion
or domination, to be
76
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320
instrumentalized by them for
their good or evil purpose.
77
00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:39,680
At times the progress of earthly
life seems to be a vast field of
78
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,880
battle between superphysical
forces of either character,
79
00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,840
those that strive to uplift,
encourage and illumine, and
80
00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,840
those that strive to deflect,
depress or prevent or even
81
00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:59,920
shatter our upward evolution or
the soul's self-expression in
82
00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:04,480
the material universe.
Some of these beings, powers or
83
00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080
forces are such that we think of
them as divine.
84
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,880
They are luminous, benignant, or
powerfully helpful.
85
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,040
There are others that are
Titanic, gigantic or demoniac,
86
00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,280
inordinate influences,
instigators or creators, often
87
00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,600
of vast and formidable inner
upheavals or of actions that
88
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,360
overpass the normal human
measure.
89
00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,520
There may also be an awareness
of influences, presences, beings
90
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,120
that do not seem to belong to
other worlds beyond us, but are
91
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,280
here as a hidden element behind
the veil in terrestrial nature.
92
00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,760
As contact with the
superphysical is possible, a
93
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,760
contact can also take place,
subjective or objective, or at
94
00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,720
least objectivized, between our
own consciousness and the
95
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,920
consciousness of other once
embodied beings who have passed
96
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,800
into a super physical status in
these other regions of
97
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,040
existence.
It is possible also to pass
98
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:17,680
beyond a subjective contact or a
subtle sense perception, and in
99
00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,960
certain subliminal states of
consciousness to enter actually
100
00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960
into other worlds and know
something of their secrets.
101
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,200
It is the more objective order
of otherworldly experience that
102
00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,560
sees most the imagination of
mankind and the past.
103
00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,440
But it was put by popular belief
into a gross objective statement
104
00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,400
which unduly assimilated these
phenomena to those of the
105
00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,840
physical world with which we are
familiar.
106
00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,280
For it is the normal tendency of
our mind to turn everything into
107
00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,320
forms or symbols proper to its
own kind and terms of
108
00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,600
experience.
End Quote Reference Sri
109
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,920
Aurobindo and the Mother The
Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter 6
110
00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,200
Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary
Forces, pages 137 to 139.
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