March 14, 2024
Understanding and Dealing with the Subtle Vital Interchange in Human Relationships
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch. 1 Life Through the Eyes of the Yogin, pp. 17-18 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/03/12/understanding-and-dealing-with-the-subtle-vital-interchange-in-human-relationships/
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We undergo changes of mood,
feelings, responses, and do not
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generally try to understand how
these things come about, their
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source and impact upon our own
state of being.
4
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In some cases, we actually
associate cause and effect with
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an interaction with another
individual, such as when we
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exclaim that we are avoiding
meeting a particular person
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because it is a draining
experience.
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This rare recognition is,
however, a sign of the deeper
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00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,560
interactions that are taking
place constantly between people.
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We do not tend to recognize that
we are subtly influenced in our
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00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,440
vital being by the vibrational
pattern of the individuals we
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are interacting with, such that
we may suddenly have an urge to
13
00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:56,440
eat, or experience a form of
trepidation or inner discomfort,
14
00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,320
or feel like taking a nap.
People who associate with
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00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,800
individuals who use certain
forms of recreational drugs
16
00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,920
frequently describe what they
call a contact high, where they
17
00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,040
are not themselves using those
drugs, but the experience of the
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individual they are in contact
with is communicating the
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euphoric sensation to them
vicariously.
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Similarly, we sometimes feel a
sense of depression looming
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around us when we interact with
someone who is deeply depressed.
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On the other side, we can
interact with people who are
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intensely focused on a mental
project or a spiritual state of
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being and feel suddenly like we
either are concentrated in our
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00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,240
being or we feel a state of
profound peace, goodwill,
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aspiration, or consecration
associated with picking up the
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vibration of an individual or
individuals who are themselves
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00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,640
in that state of being.
Most of this takes place
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00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,199
subconsciously, so we do not
directly tend to associate our
30
00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:13,520
internal sense with the external
relationship that is actually
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creating the vital vibratory
pattern that we associate with
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00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,840
that state.
The spiritual seeker who
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00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,200
recognizes the reality of this
type of vital interchange has
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several ways to deal with it.
Traditionally, the individual is
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asked to isolate himself from
this type of vital interaction
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to be able to focus on his
spiritual development if one
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remains active in the world.
However, this is not an ideal or
38
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,640
even a truly workable solution
for such individuals.
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The increased awareness of these
subtle interactions is a first
40
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step to be attained thereafter.
He can exercise various forms of
41
00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,280
vital protection through
strengthening of the aura or
42
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,120
through mental or spiritual
control that recognizes the
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00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,080
force coming in but consciously
rejects it and its influence,
44
00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,080
Sri Aurobindo observes, Quote
No, people are not conscious of
45
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,800
these things.
Only a few are.
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00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,840
The vital exchange is there, but
they are not aware of it because
47
00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,280
they live in the external mind,
physical, and these things go on
48
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,840
behind.
Even if they feel more energetic
49
00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,680
after an interchange, or
depressed, or tired, they would
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00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,360
not attribute it to the talk or
contact, because the interchange
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is unconscious, their external
mind in which they live not
52
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being aware of it.
I don't suppose people are at
53
00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,880
all aware of this occult
commerce.
54
00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,840
Some, like Dodet, may observe
the expenditure or throwing out
55
00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,240
of forces, but not the pulling
or the effect on others.
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00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,000
The idea of mental interchange
is familiar, though only of the
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00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,200
superficial kind, not the silent
action of mind on mind which is
58
00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960
always going on.
But the vital impacts are known
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00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:20,040
only to a few occultists.
If one becomes very conscious,
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one can become aware of the
forces acting in and from all
61
00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:31,040
around, EG forces of joy or
depression or anger.
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00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,800
End Quote Reference Sri
Aurobindo and the Mother, The
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Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter
One, Life Through the Eyes of
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00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360
the Yogin, pages 17 to 18.
00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,880
We undergo changes of mood,
feelings, responses, and do not
2
00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,000
generally try to understand how
these things come about, their
3
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,920
source and impact upon our own
state of being.
4
00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,680
In some cases, we actually
associate cause and effect with
5
00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,280
an interaction with another
individual, such as when we
6
00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400
exclaim that we are avoiding
meeting a particular person
7
00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,640
because it is a draining
experience.
8
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,960
This rare recognition is,
however, a sign of the deeper
9
00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,560
interactions that are taking
place constantly between people.
10
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,720
We do not tend to recognize that
we are subtly influenced in our
11
00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,440
vital being by the vibrational
pattern of the individuals we
12
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,480
are interacting with, such that
we may suddenly have an urge to
13
00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:56,440
eat, or experience a form of
trepidation or inner discomfort,
14
00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,320
or feel like taking a nap.
People who associate with
15
00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,800
individuals who use certain
forms of recreational drugs
16
00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,920
frequently describe what they
call a contact high, where they
17
00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,040
are not themselves using those
drugs, but the experience of the
18
00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,320
individual they are in contact
with is communicating the
19
00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:21,120
euphoric sensation to them
vicariously.
20
00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:25,920
Similarly, we sometimes feel a
sense of depression looming
21
00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,800
around us when we interact with
someone who is deeply depressed.
22
00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,440
On the other side, we can
interact with people who are
23
00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,120
intensely focused on a mental
project or a spiritual state of
24
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,760
being and feel suddenly like we
either are concentrated in our
25
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,240
being or we feel a state of
profound peace, goodwill,
26
00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,800
aspiration, or consecration
associated with picking up the
27
00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,360
vibration of an individual or
individuals who are themselves
28
00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,640
in that state of being.
Most of this takes place
29
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,199
subconsciously, so we do not
directly tend to associate our
30
00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:13,520
internal sense with the external
relationship that is actually
31
00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,200
creating the vital vibratory
pattern that we associate with
32
00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,840
that state.
The spiritual seeker who
33
00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,200
recognizes the reality of this
type of vital interchange has
34
00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,040
several ways to deal with it.
Traditionally, the individual is
35
00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,560
asked to isolate himself from
this type of vital interaction
36
00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,440
to be able to focus on his
spiritual development if one
37
00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,040
remains active in the world.
However, this is not an ideal or
38
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,640
even a truly workable solution
for such individuals.
39
00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,560
The increased awareness of these
subtle interactions is a first
40
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,040
step to be attained thereafter.
He can exercise various forms of
41
00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,280
vital protection through
strengthening of the aura or
42
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,120
through mental or spiritual
control that recognizes the
43
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,080
force coming in but consciously
rejects it and its influence,
44
00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,080
Sri Aurobindo observes, Quote
No, people are not conscious of
45
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,800
these things.
Only a few are.
46
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,840
The vital exchange is there, but
they are not aware of it because
47
00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,280
they live in the external mind,
physical, and these things go on
48
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,840
behind.
Even if they feel more energetic
49
00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,680
after an interchange, or
depressed, or tired, they would
50
00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,360
not attribute it to the talk or
contact, because the interchange
51
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,200
is unconscious, their external
mind in which they live not
52
00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,800
being aware of it.
I don't suppose people are at
53
00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,880
all aware of this occult
commerce.
54
00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,840
Some, like Dodet, may observe
the expenditure or throwing out
55
00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,240
of forces, but not the pulling
or the effect on others.
56
00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,000
The idea of mental interchange
is familiar, though only of the
57
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,200
superficial kind, not the silent
action of mind on mind which is
58
00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960
always going on.
But the vital impacts are known
59
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:20,040
only to a few occultists.
If one becomes very conscious,
60
00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,480
one can become aware of the
forces acting in and from all
61
00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:31,040
around, EG forces of joy or
depression or anger.
62
00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,800
End Quote Reference Sri
Aurobindo and the Mother, The
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00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,920
Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter
One, Life Through the Eyes of
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00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360
the Yogin, pages 17 to 18.
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