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Feb. 28, 2025

Transforming Pain and Pleasure Into Spiritual Calm and Bliss

Transforming Pain and Pleasure Into Spiritual Calm and Bliss

reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Looking from Within, Chapter 1, Looking at Life and Circumstances, pg. 6This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2025/02/26/transforming-pain-and-pleasure-into-spiritual-calm-and-bliss/

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All sensations carry signals
through the nervous system to

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the brain, which can then
interpret the signal.

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The signal may be more or less
intense.

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It may be interpreted as pain or
pleasure.

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Intensity of the sensation has
something to do with the

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experience and its
interpretation.

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There's a certain intensity
which is comfortable for an

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individual, and beyond that
intensity it is frequently

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interpreted as painful.
Thus the signal travelling to

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the brain in and of itself is
not necessarily pleasurable or

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painful.
It is the interpretation that is

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given to that signal that makes
the difference.

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In this regard, individuals
sometimes undertake to build up

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their ability to withstand more
intense signals, and through

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systematic efforts they find
that what used to be painful to

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them is no longer painful.
In some cases, there is a vital

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or emotional component that
helps to convert the otherwise

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painful experience into one of
ecstatic bliss.

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This sometimes happened with
yogic practitioners who go

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beyond pain and have
extraordinary inner experiences

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once they pass that threshold.
For example, we see yogis who

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sit, lie down, or walk on spiked
beds or spiked sandals.

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If anyone else tries those same
things without the focus and the

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practice, they experience
intensely painful sensations.

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Yet one can observe such
individuals who have practiced

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this as a technique for years,
who are clearly joyful and not

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in pain at all.
They have entered into another

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psychological space that
converts the signal they receive

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through the nerves into a form
of ecstasy or in some cases,

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spiritual joy.
While these examples refer to

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rather extreme steps taken by
individuals to push the limits,

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one can see analogous results
where the spiritual seeking is

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sincere and firm that leave the
seeker with calm or deep sense

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of joy even in the midst of
experiencing painful sensations.

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It is not just painful
sensations, however, that can be

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transformed.
Oftentimes it is pleasurable

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sensations that represent the
true obstacle for a seeker who

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can become so enamoured of the
experience that he fails to make

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further progress but simply
tries to repeat the pleasurable

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sensation and wallow in it.
Ryorobindo writes in his

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thoughts and aphorisms.
Quote.

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There is no iron or ineffugible
law that a given contact shall

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create pain or pleasure.
It is the way the soul meets the

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rush or pressure of Brahman upon
the members from outside them

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that determines either reaction.
End Quote.

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The mother observes.
Quote It is obvious that the

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same event or the same contact
causes pleasure in one and pain

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in another depending on the
inner attitude taken by each

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one.
And this observation leads

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towards a great realization for
once. 1 is not only understood

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but also felt that the Supreme
Lord is the originator of all

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things and one remains
constantly in contact with Him.

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All becomes the action of His
grace and has changed into calm

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and luminous bliss.
End Quote Reference Srioro Bindu

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and the Mother Looking from
within, Chapter 1.

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Looking at Life and
Circumstances, page 6.