Jan. 7, 2023
To Read, or Not to Read, That is the Question for the Spiritual Seeker
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/01/05/to-read-or-not-to-read-that-is-the-question-for-the-spiritual-seeker/
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Intellectual development is not
the same as spiritual
2
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realization.
The essence of Spiritual
3
00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:12,900
Development lies in the living
experience of the truths of the
4
00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:16,300
spirit.
Not in the mental understanding
5
00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:20,700
of Concepts.
Thus, preeminence is placed on
6
00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:24,900
experience.
Not reading the sages of The
7
00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:29,100
Vedic and punish attic times
provided spiritual guidance
8
00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:31,700
through creation.
In of an environment through
9
00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:36,900
example, and through guidance,
for the thoughts emotions, vital
10
00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:40,800
energies, and physical
development of the body with the
11
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,500
focus on realization of the
spiritual truths in their lives.
12
00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:50,400
Reading was not a focus for the
disciples living in those times.
13
00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:55,800
As we advance into more recent
times, we find that the
14
00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,200
development of the mental
faculties and the general
15
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,200
requirement for literacy with
education focused on processes
16
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,500
that require reading means that
the conditions of Spiritual
17
00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:12,100
Development.
Have also changed the entire
18
00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:15,900
idea of abandoning life in the
world, to seek a spiritual guide
19
00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,900
in the forest.
Where to spend a life in
20
00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:23,100
meditation in the caves has also
been discarded.
21
00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:27,600
As a realization has come about.
That spirituality is not about
22
00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,200
individual salvation solely, but
also for transformation of one's
23
00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,900
life in society.
And in the life of the world,
24
00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,900
some Seekers hold that reading
is neither necessary nor
25
00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:47,000
beneficial And in some cases,
they actually look down upon
26
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,800
those who invest time in
Reading.
27
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,600
Other speakers, hold that
reading is an extremely valuable
28
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800
Aid in achieving spiritual
focus.
29
00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,100
And they in turn may look down
upon those who have not
30
00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:03,500
developed their intellectual
capacities in this direction.
31
00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,199
As with all things there's a
truth within each.
32
00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,200
Standpoint reading can be
useful.
33
00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400
If it helps to tune the
Consciousness toward the
34
00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,800
spiritual realizations, that are
needed, and focuses the effort
35
00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,600
it can stand in the way of the
Seeker.
36
00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,300
If it either distract from the
need to realize the spirit in
37
00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:30,300
one's life, or if it creates an
illusory form of Spiritual
38
00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:34,500
Development, that is based on
the minds ability to create
39
00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:37,800
ideas.
Some forms and convince itself
40
00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,000
that these are the true
experiences.
41
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,900
Similarly, those who deny the
use of reading may be correct in
42
00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,400
their own sadhna to the extent,
they are actually experiencing
43
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,300
the deeper truths of the spirit
and that is guiding them
44
00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,900
completely.
But it is also possible that
45
00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:02,300
these Seekers may be caught up
in an illusory world of Their
46
00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,900
Own.
And without guidance May wander
47
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:10,100
far away from the path by
following after experiences,
48
00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:14,500
without in some cases,
understanding the source and
49
00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:19,900
intention behind those
experiences reading May and such
50
00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:24,100
cases, help to ground the
individual and provide certain
51
00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:30,000
Guidance.
The mother writes, quote always
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the most interesting cases for
me have been those of People who
53
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had read nothing but who had a
very Ardent aspiration and came
54
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to me saying, something funny as
happened to me, I had this
55
00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:45,300
extraordinary experience.
What could it mean truly?
56
00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:50,900
And then they describe a
movement of vibration of force a
57
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:51,600
light.
Whatever.
58
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,700
It might be, it depends on each
one and they describe this, that
59
00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,700
it happened like that.
And it came like that.
60
00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:04,100
And then this happened and then
that and what it all mean, all
61
00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:09,600
this Then here one is on the
right side when knows?
62
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,800
That it is not an imagined
experience that it is a sincere
63
00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,300
spontaneous one.
And this always has a power of
64
00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:22,400
transformation much greater than
the experience that was brought
65
00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,800
about by a mental knowledge.
Disciple ass then mother.
66
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000
This means that it is better not
to read.
67
00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:37,900
Mother responds on condition.
That one truly has within
68
00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,300
himself, the order of
aspiration.
69
00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:45,700
If you are born for this, for
the yoga, and this is the thing,
70
00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:49,800
which dominates all your
existence that you feel, yes,
71
00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,000
before knowing anything that you
need to find something, which is
72
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,100
in you.
Then sometimes a word is enough,
73
00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,500
the conversation, which simply
Orient you, it is enough.
74
00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:07,800
But for those who are seeking to
grope, who are not absolutely
75
00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,800
sure who are pulled this way in
that, have many interests in
76
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,100
life, are not steady stabilized
in their will for realization.
77
00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:22,600
It is very good to read because
it puts them in touch with the
78
00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,000
subject, it gives them some
interest in the thing.
79
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,900
In quote, reference SRI,
aurobindo in the mother growing.
80
00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:36,100
Within the psychology of inner
development.
81
00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,900
Chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requirements
82
00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:35,100
Pages, 49 to 50.
Within the psychology of inner
83
00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:38,600
development.
Chapter 3 growth of
84
00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,400
Consciousness basic requirements
Pages, 49 to 50.
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,300
Intellectual development is not
the same as spiritual
2
00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:08,700
realization.
The essence of Spiritual
3
00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:12,900
Development lies in the living
experience of the truths of the
4
00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:16,300
spirit.
Not in the mental understanding
5
00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:20,700
of Concepts.
Thus, preeminence is placed on
6
00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:24,900
experience.
Not reading the sages of The
7
00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:29,100
Vedic and punish attic times
provided spiritual guidance
8
00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:31,700
through creation.
In of an environment through
9
00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:36,900
example, and through guidance,
for the thoughts emotions, vital
10
00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:40,800
energies, and physical
development of the body with the
11
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,500
focus on realization of the
spiritual truths in their lives.
12
00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:50,400
Reading was not a focus for the
disciples living in those times.
13
00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:55,800
As we advance into more recent
times, we find that the
14
00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,200
development of the mental
faculties and the general
15
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,200
requirement for literacy with
education focused on processes
16
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,500
that require reading means that
the conditions of Spiritual
17
00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:12,100
Development.
Have also changed the entire
18
00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:15,900
idea of abandoning life in the
world, to seek a spiritual guide
19
00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,900
in the forest.
Where to spend a life in
20
00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:23,100
meditation in the caves has also
been discarded.
21
00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:27,600
As a realization has come about.
That spirituality is not about
22
00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,200
individual salvation solely, but
also for transformation of one's
23
00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,900
life in society.
And in the life of the world,
24
00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,900
some Seekers hold that reading
is neither necessary nor
25
00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:47,000
beneficial And in some cases,
they actually look down upon
26
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,800
those who invest time in
Reading.
27
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,600
Other speakers, hold that
reading is an extremely valuable
28
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800
Aid in achieving spiritual
focus.
29
00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,100
And they in turn may look down
upon those who have not
30
00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:03,500
developed their intellectual
capacities in this direction.
31
00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,199
As with all things there's a
truth within each.
32
00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,200
Standpoint reading can be
useful.
33
00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400
If it helps to tune the
Consciousness toward the
34
00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,800
spiritual realizations, that are
needed, and focuses the effort
35
00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,600
it can stand in the way of the
Seeker.
36
00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,300
If it either distract from the
need to realize the spirit in
37
00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:30,300
one's life, or if it creates an
illusory form of Spiritual
38
00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:34,500
Development, that is based on
the minds ability to create
39
00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:37,800
ideas.
Some forms and convince itself
40
00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,000
that these are the true
experiences.
41
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,900
Similarly, those who deny the
use of reading may be correct in
42
00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,400
their own sadhna to the extent,
they are actually experiencing
43
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,300
the deeper truths of the spirit
and that is guiding them
44
00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,900
completely.
But it is also possible that
45
00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:02,300
these Seekers may be caught up
in an illusory world of Their
46
00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,900
Own.
And without guidance May wander
47
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:10,100
far away from the path by
following after experiences,
48
00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:14,500
without in some cases,
understanding the source and
49
00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:19,900
intention behind those
experiences reading May and such
50
00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:24,100
cases, help to ground the
individual and provide certain
51
00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:30,000
Guidance.
The mother writes, quote always
52
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,700
the most interesting cases for
me have been those of People who
53
00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:38,500
had read nothing but who had a
very Ardent aspiration and came
54
00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:42,300
to me saying, something funny as
happened to me, I had this
55
00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:45,300
extraordinary experience.
What could it mean truly?
56
00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:50,900
And then they describe a
movement of vibration of force a
57
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:51,600
light.
Whatever.
58
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,700
It might be, it depends on each
one and they describe this, that
59
00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,700
it happened like that.
And it came like that.
60
00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:04,100
And then this happened and then
that and what it all mean, all
61
00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:09,600
this Then here one is on the
right side when knows?
62
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,800
That it is not an imagined
experience that it is a sincere
63
00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,300
spontaneous one.
And this always has a power of
64
00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:22,400
transformation much greater than
the experience that was brought
65
00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,800
about by a mental knowledge.
Disciple ass then mother.
66
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000
This means that it is better not
to read.
67
00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:37,900
Mother responds on condition.
That one truly has within
68
00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,300
himself, the order of
aspiration.
69
00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:45,700
If you are born for this, for
the yoga, and this is the thing,
70
00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:49,800
which dominates all your
existence that you feel, yes,
71
00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,000
before knowing anything that you
need to find something, which is
72
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,100
in you.
Then sometimes a word is enough,
73
00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,500
the conversation, which simply
Orient you, it is enough.
74
00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:07,800
But for those who are seeking to
grope, who are not absolutely
75
00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,800
sure who are pulled this way in
that, have many interests in
76
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,100
life, are not steady stabilized
in their will for realization.
77
00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:22,600
It is very good to read because
it puts them in touch with the
78
00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,000
subject, it gives them some
interest in the thing.
79
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,900
In quote, reference SRI,
aurobindo in the mother growing.
80
00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:36,100
Within the psychology of inner
development.
81
00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,900
Chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requirements
82
00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:35,100
Pages, 49 to 50.
Within the psychology of inner
83
00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:38,600
development.
Chapter 3 growth of
84
00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,400
Consciousness basic requirements
Pages, 49 to 50.
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