Dec. 29, 2024
The Vital Nature: Desire and the Reaction to Failure in Obtaining the Object of Desire
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter XVII The Vital, pp. 133-134 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/12/27/the-vital-nature-desire-and-the-reaction-to-failure-in-obtaining-the-object-of-desire/
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1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,280
The vital nature is closely tied
to the operation of desire.
2
00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,360
Whether it is a desire for
recognition, for money, for sex,
3
00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,680
for achievement of some sort,
for acceptance or comfort, the
4
00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,120
vital nature activates its
energy to reach out and grab
5
00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560
some result it believes will
satisfy that desire.
6
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,000
At the same time, this vital
seeking is frequently
7
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,320
frustrated.
Obstacles come in the way,
8
00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,840
Something we are expecting or
hoping for simply does not come
9
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,040
our way.
It can be as simple as getting
10
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,320
stuck in heavy traffic on the
roads, or it can be something
11
00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440
more significant, such as
someone opposing our desire or
12
00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,440
withholding what we seek, or
life simply not going as we may
13
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,320
wish.
When this occurs, the vital
14
00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,280
nature frequently lashes out
with anger, rage, hatred, or
15
00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920
some other expression of its
lack of fulfillment.
16
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,280
After the rush of desire is
gone, the being then frequently
17
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,160
falls back into a state of
somnolence, lassitude,
18
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,360
withdrawal, or depression.
The action of desire is provoked
19
00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,360
by the quality of rajas.
When it recedes, the being tends
20
00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,200
to fall into a state of Thomas.
This is a quite usual event that
21
00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,640
basically everyone experiences
constantly during the daily
22
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,480
life.
It is the state of Thomas, the
23
00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,920
reaction to expended rajas, that
leads the vital nature to
24
00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,680
basically stop Co operating, go
on strike.
25
00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,200
As the mother explains, it
essentially expresses its
26
00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,080
dissatisfaction with the failure
to have its desire rewarded and
27
00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,920
fulfilled by throwing a tantrum
of non cooperation.
28
00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,880
An interesting story from the
Mahabharata helps to illustrate
29
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,040
the operations of the vital
nature, the movement of desire,
30
00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,240
the frustration of desire and
the eventual consequences for
31
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,240
all concerned drawn.
Acharya, who eventually became
32
00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,440
the preceptor of the Korova and
Pandava Princess, and Dhrupada,
33
00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:32,000
who eventually went on to rule
over a Kingdom, were both
34
00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000
students in the same ashram.
As youths, they became friends
35
00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,160
and promised one another eternal
friendship and equal sharing of
36
00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,600
whatever came their way.
When they each went their
37
00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,360
separate ways afterwards, Prince
Dhrupada became a powerful king,
38
00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,640
while Drona was a poor Brahman
who could barely care for the
39
00:02:55,640 --> 00:03:00,000
needs of his family.
He eventually went to Drupada's
40
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,480
Kingdom and reminded him of
their youthful promises.
41
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,800
Drupada pointed out that they
did not have an equal status and
42
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,480
he could not recognize the
friendship of Drona nor provide
43
00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,600
for him.
Drona went away frustrated and
44
00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320
angry.
He went to Hastinapur where he
45
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,320
became the teacher of the
Korovas, as noted for his
46
00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,560
teaching fee.
He demanded that his students go
47
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,080
to the Kingdom of Drupad and
defeat him and bring him alive
48
00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,520
as a captive to Drona.
This feat was accomplished by
49
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,120
Arjuna.
At that time, Drona advised
50
00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,680
Drupada that he was now in
charge of the Kingdom, and out
51
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,480
of their former friendship, he
would get half the Kingdom to
52
00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,040
Drupada, retaining the other
half for himself.
53
00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,240
Drupada, humiliated and
disturbed, went back to his half
54
00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,160
of the Kingdom and began a
sacrifice with the purpose of
55
00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,520
burying a son who would defeat
and kill Drona in battle.
56
00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:14,720
The son, Drishya Dumna was
eventually born and trained, and
57
00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,079
in the great Kurukshetra War it
was his destiny to kill
58
00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,920
Dronacharya, one of the premier
warriors on the side of the
59
00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,640
Korovas we see here both
individuals move by the desire
60
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:34,200
soul of their vital nature.
We see desire in action, and we
61
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,480
see the frustration of desire
and eventually the rising of the
62
00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,240
desire for vengeance on each
side and at the end the
63
00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880
consequences of the death of
Dronacharya at the hand of
64
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,800
Dhrupad's son mean.
We may try to judge right and
65
00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,120
wrong in the actions and
responses of either or both of
66
00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,080
them, or we may say that they
were each acting under the
67
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,640
impulsion of destiny, but we
cannot deny that destiny was
68
00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,240
carried out through the
reactions of their respective
69
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,560
vital natures.
A disciple asks, Does depression
70
00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,120
come from the vital?
The mother notes quote.
71
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,480
Oh yes, all your troubles,
depression, discouragement,
72
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,120
disgust, fury, all all come from
the vital.
73
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640
It is that which turns love into
hate.
74
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,560
It is that which induces the
spirit of vengeance, rancor, bad
75
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,680
will, the urge to destroy and to
harm.
76
00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,160
It is that which discourages you
when things are difficult and
77
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,400
not to its liking, and it has an
extraordinary capacity for going
78
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,840
on strike.
When it is not satisfied.
79
00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,120
It hides in a corner and does
not budget.
80
00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,440
And then you have no more
energy, no more strength.
81
00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,400
You have no courage left.
Your will is like like a
82
00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,920
withering plant.
All resentment, disgust, fury,
83
00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:27,840
all despair, grief, anger, all
that comes from this gentleman.
84
00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800
For it is energy in action.
End Quote.
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00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,120
Reference Srioro Bindu and the
Mother powers within.
86
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,160
Chapter 17.
The Vital, pages 133 to 134.
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,280
The vital nature is closely tied
to the operation of desire.
2
00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,360
Whether it is a desire for
recognition, for money, for sex,
3
00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,680
for achievement of some sort,
for acceptance or comfort, the
4
00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,120
vital nature activates its
energy to reach out and grab
5
00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560
some result it believes will
satisfy that desire.
6
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,000
At the same time, this vital
seeking is frequently
7
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,320
frustrated.
Obstacles come in the way,
8
00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,840
Something we are expecting or
hoping for simply does not come
9
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,040
our way.
It can be as simple as getting
10
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,320
stuck in heavy traffic on the
roads, or it can be something
11
00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440
more significant, such as
someone opposing our desire or
12
00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,440
withholding what we seek, or
life simply not going as we may
13
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,320
wish.
When this occurs, the vital
14
00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,280
nature frequently lashes out
with anger, rage, hatred, or
15
00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920
some other expression of its
lack of fulfillment.
16
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,280
After the rush of desire is
gone, the being then frequently
17
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,160
falls back into a state of
somnolence, lassitude,
18
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,360
withdrawal, or depression.
The action of desire is provoked
19
00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,360
by the quality of rajas.
When it recedes, the being tends
20
00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,200
to fall into a state of Thomas.
This is a quite usual event that
21
00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,640
basically everyone experiences
constantly during the daily
22
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,480
life.
It is the state of Thomas, the
23
00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,920
reaction to expended rajas, that
leads the vital nature to
24
00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,680
basically stop Co operating, go
on strike.
25
00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,200
As the mother explains, it
essentially expresses its
26
00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,080
dissatisfaction with the failure
to have its desire rewarded and
27
00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,920
fulfilled by throwing a tantrum
of non cooperation.
28
00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,880
An interesting story from the
Mahabharata helps to illustrate
29
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,040
the operations of the vital
nature, the movement of desire,
30
00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,240
the frustration of desire and
the eventual consequences for
31
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,240
all concerned drawn.
Acharya, who eventually became
32
00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,440
the preceptor of the Korova and
Pandava Princess, and Dhrupada,
33
00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:32,000
who eventually went on to rule
over a Kingdom, were both
34
00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000
students in the same ashram.
As youths, they became friends
35
00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,160
and promised one another eternal
friendship and equal sharing of
36
00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,600
whatever came their way.
When they each went their
37
00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,360
separate ways afterwards, Prince
Dhrupada became a powerful king,
38
00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,640
while Drona was a poor Brahman
who could barely care for the
39
00:02:55,640 --> 00:03:00,000
needs of his family.
He eventually went to Drupada's
40
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,480
Kingdom and reminded him of
their youthful promises.
41
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,800
Drupada pointed out that they
did not have an equal status and
42
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,480
he could not recognize the
friendship of Drona nor provide
43
00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,600
for him.
Drona went away frustrated and
44
00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320
angry.
He went to Hastinapur where he
45
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,320
became the teacher of the
Korovas, as noted for his
46
00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,560
teaching fee.
He demanded that his students go
47
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,080
to the Kingdom of Drupad and
defeat him and bring him alive
48
00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,520
as a captive to Drona.
This feat was accomplished by
49
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,120
Arjuna.
At that time, Drona advised
50
00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,680
Drupada that he was now in
charge of the Kingdom, and out
51
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,480
of their former friendship, he
would get half the Kingdom to
52
00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,040
Drupada, retaining the other
half for himself.
53
00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,240
Drupada, humiliated and
disturbed, went back to his half
54
00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,160
of the Kingdom and began a
sacrifice with the purpose of
55
00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,520
burying a son who would defeat
and kill Drona in battle.
56
00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:14,720
The son, Drishya Dumna was
eventually born and trained, and
57
00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,079
in the great Kurukshetra War it
was his destiny to kill
58
00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,920
Dronacharya, one of the premier
warriors on the side of the
59
00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,640
Korovas we see here both
individuals move by the desire
60
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:34,200
soul of their vital nature.
We see desire in action, and we
61
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,480
see the frustration of desire
and eventually the rising of the
62
00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,240
desire for vengeance on each
side and at the end the
63
00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880
consequences of the death of
Dronacharya at the hand of
64
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,800
Dhrupad's son mean.
We may try to judge right and
65
00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,120
wrong in the actions and
responses of either or both of
66
00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,080
them, or we may say that they
were each acting under the
67
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,640
impulsion of destiny, but we
cannot deny that destiny was
68
00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,240
carried out through the
reactions of their respective
69
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,560
vital natures.
A disciple asks, Does depression
70
00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,120
come from the vital?
The mother notes quote.
71
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,480
Oh yes, all your troubles,
depression, discouragement,
72
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,120
disgust, fury, all all come from
the vital.
73
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640
It is that which turns love into
hate.
74
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,560
It is that which induces the
spirit of vengeance, rancor, bad
75
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,680
will, the urge to destroy and to
harm.
76
00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,160
It is that which discourages you
when things are difficult and
77
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,400
not to its liking, and it has an
extraordinary capacity for going
78
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,840
on strike.
When it is not satisfied.
79
00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,120
It hides in a corner and does
not budget.
80
00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,440
And then you have no more
energy, no more strength.
81
00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,400
You have no courage left.
Your will is like like a
82
00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,920
withering plant.
All resentment, disgust, fury,
83
00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:27,840
all despair, grief, anger, all
that comes from this gentleman.
84
00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800
For it is energy in action.
End Quote.
85
00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,120
Reference Srioro Bindu and the
Mother powers within.
86
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,160
Chapter 17.
The Vital, pages 133 to 134.
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