July 29, 2023
The Vital Nature and Its Ability to Withhold Cooperation and Obstruct Progress in Spiritual Pursuits
reference:
Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Our Many Selves: Practical Yogic Psychology, Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of the Being, pp. 32-33
This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/07/27/the-vital-nature-and-its-ability-to-withhold-cooperation-and-obstruct-progress-in-spiritual-pursuits/
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In order to carry out the
spiritual practices and work for
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the transformation of human
nature, the vital being needs to
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agree to change its habitual
sources of satisfaction and
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fulfillment to an entirely
different basis.
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The pursuit of pleasure and the
accompanying experience of pain
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00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,520
is considered normal and, for
most people, an inevitable
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result of the vital nature as it
exists.
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Whenever anyone attempts to
address or change this dynamic,
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he is confronted by the power
that the vital can exercise,
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both in its own right and in its
ability to manipulate and
11
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,720
influence the mind and the
physical body.
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The first power of the Vital is
simply to assert its will and
13
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carry out its normal activities,
even against the disagreement of
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the mind or the higher elements
of the being.
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This can lead to a struggle or a
battle and a lot of internal
16
00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,880
suffering as long as the vital
insists on its own way of doing
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things.
The second Power is one of
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manipulation of the mind.
To invent excuses and reasons
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why the mind should support and
agree to the propensity that the
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vital wants to express.
This resolves the potential
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conflict in favor of the Vital's
normal objectives.
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If, however, the mind, the
psychic sense, the spiritual
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00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,920
focus of the being, objects to
this and wants to change the
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Vital's action, the third Power
is often employed, which is
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essentially the Vital refusing
its support and going on strike.
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This leads to lack of energy,
lack of motivation, depression,
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00:02:03,250 --> 00:02:08,370
feelings of listlessness.
It is only when the vital begins
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00:02:08,370 --> 00:02:13,050
to appreciate and understand the
higher purpose and begins to
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00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,850
agree with it that the seeker
can actually overcome the
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00:02:16,890 --> 00:02:20,970
opposition of the vital nature
to the spiritual purpose.
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A disciple asks, does depression
come from the Vital?
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00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:31,740
The mother writes.
Quote, Oh yes, all your
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troubles, depression,
discouragement, disgust, fury,
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00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:42,700
all, all come from the vital.
It is that which turns love into
35
00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:46,060
hate.
It is that which induces the
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00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:51,940
spirit of vengeance, rancor, bad
will, the urge to destroy and to
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00:02:51,940 --> 00:02:55,360
harm.
It is that which discourages you
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when things are difficult and
not to its liking, and it has an
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00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,800
extraordinary capacity for going
on strike.
40
00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,640
When it is not satisfied, it
hides in a corner and does not
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00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,160
budge.
And then you have no more
42
00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,480
energy, no more strength, You
have no courage left.
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Your will is like like a
withering plant.
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All resentment, disgust, fury,
all despair, grief, anger, all
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00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,320
that comes from this gentleman.
For it is energy and action.
46
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Therefore it depends on which
side it turns.
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And I tell you, it has a very
strong habit of going on strike.
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That is its most powerful
weapon.
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Ah, you are not doing what I
want.
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Well, I'm not going to move.
I shall sham dead.
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00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:56,710
And it does that for the least
reason.
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It has a very bad character.
It is very touchy and it is very
53
00:04:01,510 --> 00:04:06,310
spiteful.
Yes, it is very illnatured, for
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00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:10,390
I believe it is very conscious
of its power and it feels
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00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:13,470
clearly that it gives itself
holy.
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00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:16,910
There is nothing that will
resist the momentum of its
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00:04:16,910 --> 00:04:19,860
force.
And like all people who have a
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weight in the balance, the vital
also bargains.
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I shall give you my energy.
But you must do what I want.
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If you do not give me what I
asked for, well, I will withdraw
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00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:35,780
my energy and you will be flat
as a pancake.
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It is true.
It happens like that.
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End Quote Reference Shriya,
Robindo and the Mother Our Many
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Selves.
Practical Yogic Psychology,
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00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:56,340
Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of
the Being, pages 32 to 33.
00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,840
In order to carry out the
spiritual practices and work for
2
00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,880
the transformation of human
nature, the vital being needs to
3
00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,800
agree to change its habitual
sources of satisfaction and
4
00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,880
fulfillment to an entirely
different basis.
5
00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,240
The pursuit of pleasure and the
accompanying experience of pain
6
00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,520
is considered normal and, for
most people, an inevitable
7
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,200
result of the vital nature as it
exists.
8
00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,080
Whenever anyone attempts to
address or change this dynamic,
9
00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,320
he is confronted by the power
that the vital can exercise,
10
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,640
both in its own right and in its
ability to manipulate and
11
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,720
influence the mind and the
physical body.
12
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,560
The first power of the Vital is
simply to assert its will and
13
00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,600
carry out its normal activities,
even against the disagreement of
14
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,280
the mind or the higher elements
of the being.
15
00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,880
This can lead to a struggle or a
battle and a lot of internal
16
00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,880
suffering as long as the vital
insists on its own way of doing
17
00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,640
things.
The second Power is one of
18
00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,400
manipulation of the mind.
To invent excuses and reasons
19
00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,240
why the mind should support and
agree to the propensity that the
20
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,600
vital wants to express.
This resolves the potential
21
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,000
conflict in favor of the Vital's
normal objectives.
22
00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,360
If, however, the mind, the
psychic sense, the spiritual
23
00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,920
focus of the being, objects to
this and wants to change the
24
00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,880
Vital's action, the third Power
is often employed, which is
25
00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,760
essentially the Vital refusing
its support and going on strike.
26
00:01:56,890 --> 00:02:02,530
This leads to lack of energy,
lack of motivation, depression,
27
00:02:03,250 --> 00:02:08,370
feelings of listlessness.
It is only when the vital begins
28
00:02:08,370 --> 00:02:13,050
to appreciate and understand the
higher purpose and begins to
29
00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,850
agree with it that the seeker
can actually overcome the
30
00:02:16,890 --> 00:02:20,970
opposition of the vital nature
to the spiritual purpose.
31
00:02:22,690 --> 00:02:26,530
A disciple asks, does depression
come from the Vital?
32
00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:31,740
The mother writes.
Quote, Oh yes, all your
33
00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:36,820
troubles, depression,
discouragement, disgust, fury,
34
00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:42,700
all, all come from the vital.
It is that which turns love into
35
00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:46,060
hate.
It is that which induces the
36
00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:51,940
spirit of vengeance, rancor, bad
will, the urge to destroy and to
37
00:02:51,940 --> 00:02:55,360
harm.
It is that which discourages you
38
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,920
when things are difficult and
not to its liking, and it has an
39
00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,800
extraordinary capacity for going
on strike.
40
00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,640
When it is not satisfied, it
hides in a corner and does not
41
00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,160
budge.
And then you have no more
42
00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,480
energy, no more strength, You
have no courage left.
43
00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,840
Your will is like like a
withering plant.
44
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:29,360
All resentment, disgust, fury,
all despair, grief, anger, all
45
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,320
that comes from this gentleman.
For it is energy and action.
46
00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640
Therefore it depends on which
side it turns.
47
00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,480
And I tell you, it has a very
strong habit of going on strike.
48
00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,560
That is its most powerful
weapon.
49
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,320
Ah, you are not doing what I
want.
50
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,470
Well, I'm not going to move.
I shall sham dead.
51
00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:56,710
And it does that for the least
reason.
52
00:03:57,270 --> 00:04:01,510
It has a very bad character.
It is very touchy and it is very
53
00:04:01,510 --> 00:04:06,310
spiteful.
Yes, it is very illnatured, for
54
00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:10,390
I believe it is very conscious
of its power and it feels
55
00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:13,470
clearly that it gives itself
holy.
56
00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:16,910
There is nothing that will
resist the momentum of its
57
00:04:16,910 --> 00:04:19,860
force.
And like all people who have a
58
00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:22,860
weight in the balance, the vital
also bargains.
59
00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:27,380
I shall give you my energy.
But you must do what I want.
60
00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:31,700
If you do not give me what I
asked for, well, I will withdraw
61
00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:35,780
my energy and you will be flat
as a pancake.
62
00:04:37,060 --> 00:04:40,220
It is true.
It happens like that.
63
00:04:41,340 --> 00:04:47,260
End Quote Reference Shriya,
Robindo and the Mother Our Many
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00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:50,340
Selves.
Practical Yogic Psychology,
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00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:56,340
Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of
the Being, pages 32 to 33.
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