July 22, 2023
The Vital Desire Soul and the True Soul of the Psychic Being
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Our Many Selves: Practical Yogic Psychology, Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of the Being, pp. 27-28
This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/07/20/the-vital-desire-soul-and-the-true-soul-of-the-psychic-being/
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Shriurobindo and the Mother make
a distinction between the desire
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soul of the vital nature and the
true soul which expresses the
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inmost being that is a direct
spark of the divine.
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They differ in their focus,
orientation, and basis of
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action.
The desire soul incorporates the
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drives of the external being's
vital nature, the desires,
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emotions, impulsions that lead
to the seeker after forms of
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power, wealth, sex, fame, and
the fulfillment of the
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relationships which the
individual has in his outer
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life, those of family, friends,
business associates, etcetera.
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00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:57,070
The Desire Soul is fixed on the
fulfillment of the individual's
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00:00:57,110 --> 00:01:00,470
ego, goals, objectives and
desires.
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00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:07,870
It is essentially framed by the
concepts behind I, me, mine.
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It is a focus that creates
division between the fulfillment
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of the individual and the
potentially conflicting needs or
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wants of the larger community,
and eventually that of the
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divine intention in the world.
The true Soul, on the other
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hand, is a soul of oneness,
identifying itself with the
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larger divine purpose in the
manifestation.
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It does not put the individual
fulfillment of desire as its
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objective or point of focus.
Rather, it is aware of the
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overall intention and works to
carry out that intention and to
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take into account the other
beings, forms, forces that are
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part of that larger
manifestation.
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It is a soul of harmony and a
soul of insight into the
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00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:07,230
significance of the world and
its own role in the development
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of which the world is a part of
the much larger universal
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creation.
It does not act from personal
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00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:21,470
desire, but from aspiration,
from consecration, from
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00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:25,990
surrender of its own individual
fulfillment to the larger
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00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:31,080
universal fulfillment.
Triorobindo writes, quote.
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All or most of the works of life
are at present or seem to be
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actuated or vitiated by the soul
of desire.
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Even those that are ethical or
religious, even those that where
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the guise of altruism,
philanthropy, self sacrifice,
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self denial are shot through and
through with the threads of its
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making.
This soul of desire is a
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separate soul of ego, and all
its instincts are for a separate
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00:03:04,230 --> 00:03:09,470
of self affirmation.
It pushes always openly or under
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00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:14,790
more or less shining masks for
its own growth, for possession,
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for enjoyment, for conquest and
empire.
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End Quote from the synthesis of
Yoga.
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A disciple inquires sweet mother
what is the soul of desire?
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The mother responds quote It is
what makes you live, act, move,
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soul.
The word for soul in French amme
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comes from a word which means to
animate.
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It is what gives life to the
body.
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If you didn't have it, you would
be inert matter, something like
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stones or plants.
Not altogether inert, but
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vegetative.
Some people say that without
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desires, that is without this
soul of desire, there would
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00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,600
never have been any progress in
ordinary life.
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00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,040
It is something very useful.
But when one decides to do yoga
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00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,320
to find the divine, it becomes a
little cumbersome.
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End Quote Reference Srioro Bindu
and the Mother Our Many Selves.
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Practical Yogic Psychology,
Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of
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00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:30,350
the Being, pages 27 to 28.
00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,360
Shriurobindo and the Mother make
a distinction between the desire
2
00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,000
soul of the vital nature and the
true soul which expresses the
3
00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:15,720
inmost being that is a direct
spark of the divine.
4
00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,400
They differ in their focus,
orientation, and basis of
5
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,280
action.
The desire soul incorporates the
6
00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,680
drives of the external being's
vital nature, the desires,
7
00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:35,070
emotions, impulsions that lead
to the seeker after forms of
8
00:00:35,070 --> 00:00:41,550
power, wealth, sex, fame, and
the fulfillment of the
9
00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:45,270
relationships which the
individual has in his outer
10
00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:51,510
life, those of family, friends,
business associates, etcetera.
11
00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:57,070
The Desire Soul is fixed on the
fulfillment of the individual's
12
00:00:57,110 --> 00:01:00,470
ego, goals, objectives and
desires.
13
00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:07,870
It is essentially framed by the
concepts behind I, me, mine.
14
00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:13,150
It is a focus that creates
division between the fulfillment
15
00:01:13,150 --> 00:01:17,510
of the individual and the
potentially conflicting needs or
16
00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:21,670
wants of the larger community,
and eventually that of the
17
00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:26,790
divine intention in the world.
The true Soul, on the other
18
00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:31,450
hand, is a soul of oneness,
identifying itself with the
19
00:01:31,450 --> 00:01:34,210
larger divine purpose in the
manifestation.
20
00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:39,050
It does not put the individual
fulfillment of desire as its
21
00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:43,930
objective or point of focus.
Rather, it is aware of the
22
00:01:43,970 --> 00:01:49,290
overall intention and works to
carry out that intention and to
23
00:01:49,290 --> 00:01:55,170
take into account the other
beings, forms, forces that are
24
00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:57,570
part of that larger
manifestation.
25
00:01:58,870 --> 00:02:03,070
It is a soul of harmony and a
soul of insight into the
26
00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:07,230
significance of the world and
its own role in the development
27
00:02:07,470 --> 00:02:12,230
of which the world is a part of
the much larger universal
28
00:02:12,230 --> 00:02:15,870
creation.
It does not act from personal
29
00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:21,470
desire, but from aspiration,
from consecration, from
30
00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:25,990
surrender of its own individual
fulfillment to the larger
31
00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:31,080
universal fulfillment.
Triorobindo writes, quote.
32
00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,720
All or most of the works of life
are at present or seem to be
33
00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,600
actuated or vitiated by the soul
of desire.
34
00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,480
Even those that are ethical or
religious, even those that where
35
00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,320
the guise of altruism,
philanthropy, self sacrifice,
36
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,840
self denial are shot through and
through with the threads of its
37
00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,110
making.
This soul of desire is a
38
00:02:59,110 --> 00:03:04,230
separate soul of ego, and all
its instincts are for a separate
39
00:03:04,230 --> 00:03:09,470
of self affirmation.
It pushes always openly or under
40
00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:14,790
more or less shining masks for
its own growth, for possession,
41
00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:19,270
for enjoyment, for conquest and
empire.
42
00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:23,390
End Quote from the synthesis of
Yoga.
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00:03:24,910 --> 00:03:29,650
A disciple inquires sweet mother
what is the soul of desire?
44
00:03:30,730 --> 00:03:37,010
The mother responds quote It is
what makes you live, act, move,
45
00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:40,530
soul.
The word for soul in French amme
46
00:03:41,530 --> 00:03:44,370
comes from a word which means to
animate.
47
00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:46,930
It is what gives life to the
body.
48
00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:51,530
If you didn't have it, you would
be inert matter, something like
49
00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:55,090
stones or plants.
Not altogether inert, but
50
00:03:55,090 --> 00:03:58,720
vegetative.
Some people say that without
51
00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,040
desires, that is without this
soul of desire, there would
52
00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,600
never have been any progress in
ordinary life.
53
00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,040
It is something very useful.
But when one decides to do yoga
54
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,320
to find the divine, it becomes a
little cumbersome.
55
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:22,440
End Quote Reference Srioro Bindu
and the Mother Our Many Selves.
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00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,630
Practical Yogic Psychology,
Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of
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00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:30,350
the Being, pages 27 to 28.
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