June 9, 2023
The Value of Attaining the Standpoint of the Witness Consciousness in Understanding the Complexity of Interaction of the Parts of the Being
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Our Many Selves: Practical Yogic Psychology, Introduction, Sri Aurobindo on Our Many Selves, Planes and Parts of the Being, pp. xviii-xix This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/06/07/the-value-of-attaining-the-standpoint-of-the-witness-consciousness-in-understanding-the-complexity-of-interaction-of-the-parts-of-the-being/
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It has been famously stated that
we cannot understand the system
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within which we are acting until
we can shift our View to a
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standpoint outside that frame.
As long as we are immersed,
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00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,100
within any particular system or
standpoint.
5
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We are locked into the Viewpoint
and understanding embedded
6
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within that frame and our
ability to perceive and fully
7
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appreciate the forces acting
upon us is both severely limited
8
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and extremely biased.
To become the Observer of the
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00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:43,400
external nature.
Therefore, is a prerequisite for
10
00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,500
attaining.
Both self-knowledge and
11
00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:51,200
self-mastery.
Sankhya philosophy understood
12
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,900
these limitations and therefore
set forth a method of
13
00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:59,000
understanding that separated the
witness Consciousness, purusha
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00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,300
from the active nature,
proximity.
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As we learn how to shift the
standpoint to that of the
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00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,400
witness free and separate from
the actions of the nature.
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We can begin to see the gears
turning and the forces moving in
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acting and interacting to
create. we know of, as our
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external being At a certain
point, we begin to gain the
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ability to actually untangle the
convoluted and intertwine
21
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,200
threads of impulsion and action
within us.
22
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And at that point, we can see
and eventually leverage this
23
00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:45,500
knowledge to act upon the parts
and aspects of the outer nature.
24
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Dr. Dalal notes, quote real self
knowledge begins, when a
25
00:01:51,908 --> 00:01:56,400
separation takes place between
purusa and prakruti between the
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self and its outer nature.
Then we perceive as SRI
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aurobindo States.
The extraordinary complexity of
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our own being the stimulating
but also embarrassing
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00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,600
multiplicity of our personality.
The rich endless confusion of
30
00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,200
nature.
Dr. Dalal continues.
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We also perceive that the
numerous personalities which are
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00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:26,700
mixed up on the surface are
separate and distinct when
33
00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:31,200
viewed from within each
personality, represents a part
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of the being, which has its own
complex, individuality and
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different nature.
Its own demands agreeing neither
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00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:44,200
with itself, nor with the
others, Speaking of the
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perfectly normal to visibility
of the different parts of the
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00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,200
being SRI aurobindo States.
In the outer surface nature,
39
00:02:53,700 --> 00:03:00,600
mind psychic, vital physical are
all jumbled together and it
40
00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,000
needs a strong power of
introspection and self-analysis
41
00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:09,400
close observation, and
disentanglement of the threads
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00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,800
of thought feeling, and impulse
to find out the composition of
43
00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,600
our nature and the relation and
interaction of these parts upon
44
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,900
each other.
But when one goes inside, we
45
00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:27,900
find the sources of all this
surface action and they're the
46
00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:31,400
parts of our being are quite
separate and clearly distinct
47
00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,300
from each other.
We feel them indeed as different
48
00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:40,600
beings in us and just as two
people in a joint action can do,
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they too are seen to observe
criticized help or oppose and
50
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,900
restrain each other.
It is as if we were a group
51
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,900
being each member of the group
with its separate place and
52
00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:59,900
function and all directed by a
central being who is sometimes
53
00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:04,900
in front above the others,
Behind the scenes.
54
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,500
And quote, reference SRI
aurobindo, and the mother, our
55
00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:16,600
many selves practical yogic
psychology introduction.
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SRI aurobindo on our many selves
planes and parts of the being
57
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000
Pages.
Roman 18 to Roman 19.
00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,800
It has been famously stated that
we cannot understand the system
2
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,400
within which we are acting until
we can shift our View to a
3
00:00:10,408 --> 00:00:15,800
standpoint outside that frame.
As long as we are immersed,
4
00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,100
within any particular system or
standpoint.
5
00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,500
We are locked into the Viewpoint
and understanding embedded
6
00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:28,800
within that frame and our
ability to perceive and fully
7
00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,400
appreciate the forces acting
upon us is both severely limited
8
00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,100
and extremely biased.
To become the Observer of the
9
00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:43,400
external nature.
Therefore, is a prerequisite for
10
00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,500
attaining.
Both self-knowledge and
11
00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:51,200
self-mastery.
Sankhya philosophy understood
12
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,900
these limitations and therefore
set forth a method of
13
00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:59,000
understanding that separated the
witness Consciousness, purusha
14
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,300
from the active nature,
proximity.
15
00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,300
As we learn how to shift the
standpoint to that of the
16
00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,400
witness free and separate from
the actions of the nature.
17
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,400
We can begin to see the gears
turning and the forces moving in
18
00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,300
acting and interacting to
create. we know of, as our
19
00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:25,700
external being At a certain
point, we begin to gain the
20
00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:31,200
ability to actually untangle the
convoluted and intertwine
21
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,200
threads of impulsion and action
within us.
22
00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,500
And at that point, we can see
and eventually leverage this
23
00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:45,500
knowledge to act upon the parts
and aspects of the outer nature.
24
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,900
Dr. Dalal notes, quote real self
knowledge begins, when a
25
00:01:51,908 --> 00:01:56,400
separation takes place between
purusa and prakruti between the
26
00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,800
self and its outer nature.
Then we perceive as SRI
27
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,800
aurobindo States.
The extraordinary complexity of
28
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,600
our own being the stimulating
but also embarrassing
29
00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,600
multiplicity of our personality.
The rich endless confusion of
30
00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,200
nature.
Dr. Dalal continues.
31
00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:22,900
We also perceive that the
numerous personalities which are
32
00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:26,700
mixed up on the surface are
separate and distinct when
33
00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:31,200
viewed from within each
personality, represents a part
34
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,500
of the being, which has its own
complex, individuality and
35
00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:39,900
different nature.
Its own demands agreeing neither
36
00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:44,200
with itself, nor with the
others, Speaking of the
37
00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,600
perfectly normal to visibility
of the different parts of the
38
00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,200
being SRI aurobindo States.
In the outer surface nature,
39
00:02:53,700 --> 00:03:00,600
mind psychic, vital physical are
all jumbled together and it
40
00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,000
needs a strong power of
introspection and self-analysis
41
00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:09,400
close observation, and
disentanglement of the threads
42
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,800
of thought feeling, and impulse
to find out the composition of
43
00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,600
our nature and the relation and
interaction of these parts upon
44
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,900
each other.
But when one goes inside, we
45
00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:27,900
find the sources of all this
surface action and they're the
46
00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:31,400
parts of our being are quite
separate and clearly distinct
47
00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,300
from each other.
We feel them indeed as different
48
00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:40,600
beings in us and just as two
people in a joint action can do,
49
00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:47,000
they too are seen to observe
criticized help or oppose and
50
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,900
restrain each other.
It is as if we were a group
51
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,900
being each member of the group
with its separate place and
52
00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:59,900
function and all directed by a
central being who is sometimes
53
00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:04,900
in front above the others,
Behind the scenes.
54
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,500
And quote, reference SRI
aurobindo, and the mother, our
55
00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:16,600
many selves practical yogic
psychology introduction.
56
00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,800
SRI aurobindo on our many selves
planes and parts of the being
57
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000
Pages.
Roman 18 to Roman 19.
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