Feb. 4, 2025
The Reality of Being Born Into the Spirit
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter XXII Spirit, pp. 164-165 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2025/02/02/the-reality-of-being-born-into-the-spirit/
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People commonly believe that
espousing a particular religion
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or religious doctrine, reading
scriptural texts, singing
3
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devotional songs, practicing
yoga or meditation, or any of
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00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,200
the numerous other practices
often called spiritual makes
5
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them spiritual.
While these practices may help
6
00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,440
to turn their minds, their
hearts, their life energy and
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00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,759
even their bodies towards
spiritual realization, they do
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00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:38,000
not in and of themselves
constitute living in the spirit,
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00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,520
or as the Mother puts it, being
born into the spirit.
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In the Bhagwad Gita, Arjuna asks
Sri Krishna a related question.
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00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,200
How to recognize the realized
man?
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What is the sign of the man in
samadhi whose intelligence is
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firmly fixed in wisdom?
How does the sage of settled
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00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,920
understanding speak?
How sit, How walk?
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Bhagwad Gita Chapter 2, verse 54
translated by Sri Aurobindo in
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Bhagwad Gita and its Message.
Sri Krishna's response makes it
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clear that none of the outward
acts of the individual are
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relevant to the question of the
inward realization of the
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individual.
The true sign, as Sri Arrobindo
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00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,480
explains in his comment on this
verse, is quote.
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No such signs can be given, nor
does the teacher attempt to
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supply them, for the only
possible test of its possession
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00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,080
is inward, and that there are
plenty of hostile psychological
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forces to apply.
Equality is the great stamp of
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the liberated soul, and of that
equality even the most
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discernible signs are still
subjective.
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End Quote.
Being born into the spirit,
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00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,880
then, is not something one can
declare by simply espousing a
29
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,880
specific doctrine or marching
under the banner of some
30
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,400
religion or other.
It is not something that comes
31
00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,120
automatically by any of the
practices generally attributed
32
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160
to the spiritual life.
It is a transformation of the
33
00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,840
consciousness such that the
individual lives in an
34
00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,040
atmosphere of oneness with the
entire creation, breathes in the
35
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,720
awareness of the spirit and
moves under its impulsion.
36
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,200
At that point the Spirit rules
1's life and actions when
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00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,440
becomes liberated from
attachment to the desires and
38
00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,640
fulfilments of the ego
personality and acts under the
39
00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,920
direction and force of the
spiritual purpose in the
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manifested universe.
The Mother observes.
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Quote.
For the moment the Spirit plays
42
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,160
the part of a helper and guide,
but it is not the all powerful
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Master of the material
manifestation.
44
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,520
When the Super Mind is organized
into a new world, the Spirit
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00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,320
will become the Master and
govern nature in a clear and
46
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visible way.
What is called new birth is the
47
00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,640
birth into the spiritual life,
the spiritual consciousness.
48
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It is to carry in oneself
something of the spirit, which
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00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,800
individually, through the soul,
can begin to rule the life and
50
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,160
be the master of existence.
But in the Super mental world,
51
00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,600
the spirit will be the master of
this entire world and all its
52
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,840
manifestations, all its
expressions, consciously,
53
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spontaneously, naturally, in the
individual existence.
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00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,680
That is what makes all the
difference, so long as one just
55
00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560
speaks of the spirit and it is
something one is read about
56
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,440
whose existence 1 vaguely knows
about, but not a very concrete
57
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,040
reality for the consciousness.
This means that one is not born
58
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,600
into the spirit, and when one is
born into the spirit, it becomes
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00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,200
something much more concrete,
much more living, much more
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00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,800
real, much more tangible than
the whole material world.
61
00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,360
And this is what makes the
essential difference between
62
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,400
beings.
When that becomes spontaneously
63
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,000
real, the true concrete
existence, the atmosphere 1 can
64
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,320
freely breathe, then one knows
one has crossed over to the
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00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760
other side.
But so long as it is something
66
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,200
rather vague and hazy, you've
heard about it.
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You know that it exists, but it
has no concrete reality.
68
00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,720
Well, this means that the new
birth has not yet taken place.
69
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,640
As long as you tell yourself
yes, this I can see this, I can
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00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,400
touch the pain I suffer from,
the hunger that torments me, the
71
00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560
sleep that makes me feel heavy.
This is real.
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This is concrete, Mother laughs.
That means you have not yet
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00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,960
crossed over to the other side.
You are not born into the
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00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,520
spirit.
End Quote.
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00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,640
Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother Powers Within, Chapter
76
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,800
22, Spirit, pages 164 to 165.
00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,320
People commonly believe that
espousing a particular religion
2
00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,280
or religious doctrine, reading
scriptural texts, singing
3
00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,840
devotional songs, practicing
yoga or meditation, or any of
4
00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,200
the numerous other practices
often called spiritual makes
5
00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,040
them spiritual.
While these practices may help
6
00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,440
to turn their minds, their
hearts, their life energy and
7
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,759
even their bodies towards
spiritual realization, they do
8
00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:38,000
not in and of themselves
constitute living in the spirit,
9
00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,520
or as the Mother puts it, being
born into the spirit.
10
00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,280
In the Bhagwad Gita, Arjuna asks
Sri Krishna a related question.
11
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,200
How to recognize the realized
man?
12
00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,720
What is the sign of the man in
samadhi whose intelligence is
13
00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,120
firmly fixed in wisdom?
How does the sage of settled
14
00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,920
understanding speak?
How sit, How walk?
15
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,520
Bhagwad Gita Chapter 2, verse 54
translated by Sri Aurobindo in
16
00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,600
Bhagwad Gita and its Message.
Sri Krishna's response makes it
17
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600
clear that none of the outward
acts of the individual are
18
00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,320
relevant to the question of the
inward realization of the
19
00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:27,480
individual.
The true sign, as Sri Arrobindo
20
00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,480
explains in his comment on this
verse, is quote.
21
00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:35,640
No such signs can be given, nor
does the teacher attempt to
22
00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,320
supply them, for the only
possible test of its possession
23
00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,080
is inward, and that there are
plenty of hostile psychological
24
00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,080
forces to apply.
Equality is the great stamp of
25
00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,320
the liberated soul, and of that
equality even the most
26
00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,000
discernible signs are still
subjective.
27
00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,520
End Quote.
Being born into the spirit,
28
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,880
then, is not something one can
declare by simply espousing a
29
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,880
specific doctrine or marching
under the banner of some
30
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,400
religion or other.
It is not something that comes
31
00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,120
automatically by any of the
practices generally attributed
32
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160
to the spiritual life.
It is a transformation of the
33
00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,840
consciousness such that the
individual lives in an
34
00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,040
atmosphere of oneness with the
entire creation, breathes in the
35
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,720
awareness of the spirit and
moves under its impulsion.
36
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,200
At that point the Spirit rules
1's life and actions when
37
00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,440
becomes liberated from
attachment to the desires and
38
00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,640
fulfilments of the ego
personality and acts under the
39
00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,920
direction and force of the
spiritual purpose in the
40
00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:57,080
manifested universe.
The Mother observes.
41
00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,320
Quote.
For the moment the Spirit plays
42
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,160
the part of a helper and guide,
but it is not the all powerful
43
00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,400
Master of the material
manifestation.
44
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,520
When the Super Mind is organized
into a new world, the Spirit
45
00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,320
will become the Master and
govern nature in a clear and
46
00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,600
visible way.
What is called new birth is the
47
00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,640
birth into the spiritual life,
the spiritual consciousness.
48
00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,480
It is to carry in oneself
something of the spirit, which
49
00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,800
individually, through the soul,
can begin to rule the life and
50
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,160
be the master of existence.
But in the Super mental world,
51
00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,600
the spirit will be the master of
this entire world and all its
52
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,840
manifestations, all its
expressions, consciously,
53
00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:53,080
spontaneously, naturally, in the
individual existence.
54
00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,680
That is what makes all the
difference, so long as one just
55
00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560
speaks of the spirit and it is
something one is read about
56
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,440
whose existence 1 vaguely knows
about, but not a very concrete
57
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,040
reality for the consciousness.
This means that one is not born
58
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,600
into the spirit, and when one is
born into the spirit, it becomes
59
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,200
something much more concrete,
much more living, much more
60
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,800
real, much more tangible than
the whole material world.
61
00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,360
And this is what makes the
essential difference between
62
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,400
beings.
When that becomes spontaneously
63
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,000
real, the true concrete
existence, the atmosphere 1 can
64
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,320
freely breathe, then one knows
one has crossed over to the
65
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760
other side.
But so long as it is something
66
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,200
rather vague and hazy, you've
heard about it.
67
00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,040
You know that it exists, but it
has no concrete reality.
68
00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,720
Well, this means that the new
birth has not yet taken place.
69
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,640
As long as you tell yourself
yes, this I can see this, I can
70
00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,400
touch the pain I suffer from,
the hunger that torments me, the
71
00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560
sleep that makes me feel heavy.
This is real.
72
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,520
This is concrete, Mother laughs.
That means you have not yet
73
00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,960
crossed over to the other side.
You are not born into the
74
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,520
spirit.
End Quote.
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00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,640
Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother Powers Within, Chapter
76
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,800
22, Spirit, pages 164 to 165.
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