Feb. 7, 2025
The Power of the Spiritual Consciousness Is Needed to Overcome the Limitations of the Mental Approach to Existence
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter XXII Spirit, pp. 167-168
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1
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As the mental consciousness
awakens, particularly if there's
2
00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,720
an influence coming from the
psychic being or from the
3
00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,320
spiritual planes pressing down
on the mental being, we become
4
00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,600
aware of virtually endless
problems, issues, difficulties,
5
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,480
imbalances, disharmonies, and
outright conflicts in the world
6
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000
and how we interact with each
other and our environment.
7
00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:30,160
Those with a positive attitude
and energy naturally want to do
8
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,360
something to help straighten
this out.
9
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,160
They try many things.
This is how humanity comes up
10
00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:41,560
with solutions based on
technology or economic system
11
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,960
adjustments, scientific
advancements that are supposed
12
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,560
to solve some issue or other
political systems, religious
13
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,360
doctrines or sociological
improvements, as well as
14
00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,320
enhancements in education,
lawmaking, et cetera.
15
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,560
Eventually competing ideas are
held by competing factions and a
16
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280
form of gridlock occurs and
nothing can be done.
17
00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,280
When we become frustrated at
slow progress, we try
18
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,880
authoritarian rule.
This has its own serious
19
00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,320
drawbacks, with a reliance on
one sided short term solutions
20
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:24,920
provided generally more focused
on keeping the authoritarians in
21
00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,000
power than on actually solving
any of humanity's issues.
22
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,720
And thus we struggle, suffer and
face ever increasing
23
00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,000
dislocations, disharmonies,
obstacles and existential
24
00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,160
threats.
This process occurs due to the
25
00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360
limitations of the mental power
and its intermixture with the
26
00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,080
vital force based in desire and
the actual difficulties of
27
00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,720
managing physical nature.
The natural forces that tend to
28
00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,920
bring about balance in the
physical environment and then as
29
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,120
the vital force evolves in the
interaction between the physical
30
00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,400
and vital, are disrupted with
the evolution of mind.
31
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,960
Which by nature has a somewhat
linear approach to things and
32
00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,840
does not see or take into
account all the myriad aspects
33
00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,080
that go into making a
comprehensive and complete
34
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,680
understanding that can act to
create a New Balance and a new
35
00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,680
harmony.
Each mental intervention is
36
00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,880
intended to bring a progress,
and it generally does in One
37
00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,560
Direction or another, but it
also has a wide variety of
38
00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,320
unintended consequences.
Once the developed mental
39
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,560
consciousness becomes aware of
this dynamic, it begins to
40
00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,800
realize that the solution does
not lie in mental planning or
41
00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,760
processes, but in the evolution
and development of a next stage
42
00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,400
of consciousness in the
evolutionary scale.
43
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,360
A stage which can comprehend the
entirety of the issues and
44
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,720
forces at work and which can
know the harmonious balance that
45
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,880
needs to be achieved and
maintained.
46
00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,880
This is then the place where the
spiritual consciousness as
47
00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,520
manifested in what tree or a
window and the Mother call the
48
00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,280
Super mental consciousness comes
into play.
49
00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,800
The spiritual consciousness does
not rely on mental argument, but
50
00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,960
on the force of its
consciousness in and of itself
51
00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,880
in creating an atmosphere and
spiritual pressure that helps
52
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,520
all beings respond in effective
and harmonious ways.
53
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,600
The Mother observes quote, and
as soon as one is turned towards
54
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,360
the spiritual life and reality,
one touches the Infinite, the
55
00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,160
eternal, and there can no longer
be any question of a greater or
56
00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400
smaller number of capacities or
possibilities.
57
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,680
It is the mental conception of
spiritual life which may say
58
00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080
that one has more or less
capacity to live spiritually,
59
00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360
but this is not at all an
adequate statement.
60
00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,640
What may be said is that one is
more or less ready for the
61
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,519
decisive and total reversal.
In reality.
62
00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,360
It is the mental capacity to
withdraw from ordinary
63
00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,680
activities and to set out in
search of the spiritual life
64
00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,400
which can be measured.
But so long as one is in the
65
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120
mental field, in this state as
it were, on this plane of
66
00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,000
consciousness, 1 can't do much
for others, either for life in
67
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,080
general or for particular
individuals, because one doesn't
68
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,200
have the certitude oneself, 1
doesn't have the definitive
69
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,280
experience.
The consciousness has not been
70
00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,480
established in the spiritual
world.
71
00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:00,920
And all that can be said is that
they are mental activities which
72
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,760
have their good and bad sides,
but not much power, and in any
73
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:11,560
case not this power of spiritual
contagion, which is the only
74
00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,200
true effective power.
The only thing that is truly
75
00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,280
effective is the possibility of
transferring to others, the
76
00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,960
state of consciousness in which
one lives oneself.
77
00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,960
But this power cannot be
invented, 1 cannot imitate it,
78
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,800
cannot seem to have it.
It only comes spontaneously when
79
00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,040
one is established in that state
oneself, when one lives within
80
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,120
it and not when one is trying to
live within it, when one is
81
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,160
there.
And that is why all those who
82
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,080
truly have a spiritual life
cannot be deceived.
83
00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,360
An imitation of spiritual life
may delude people who still live
84
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,360
in the mind, but those who have
realized this reversal of
85
00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,200
consciousness in themselves,
whose relation with the outer
86
00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,080
being is completely different,
cannot be deceived and cannot
87
00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640
make a mistake.
End Quote.
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Reference Sri Orovindo and the
Mother Powers Within, Chapter
89
00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,960
22, Spirit, pages 167 to 168.
00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,560
As the mental consciousness
awakens, particularly if there's
2
00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,720
an influence coming from the
psychic being or from the
3
00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,320
spiritual planes pressing down
on the mental being, we become
4
00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,600
aware of virtually endless
problems, issues, difficulties,
5
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,480
imbalances, disharmonies, and
outright conflicts in the world
6
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000
and how we interact with each
other and our environment.
7
00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:30,160
Those with a positive attitude
and energy naturally want to do
8
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,360
something to help straighten
this out.
9
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,160
They try many things.
This is how humanity comes up
10
00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:41,560
with solutions based on
technology or economic system
11
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,960
adjustments, scientific
advancements that are supposed
12
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,560
to solve some issue or other
political systems, religious
13
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,360
doctrines or sociological
improvements, as well as
14
00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,320
enhancements in education,
lawmaking, et cetera.
15
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,560
Eventually competing ideas are
held by competing factions and a
16
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280
form of gridlock occurs and
nothing can be done.
17
00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,280
When we become frustrated at
slow progress, we try
18
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,880
authoritarian rule.
This has its own serious
19
00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,320
drawbacks, with a reliance on
one sided short term solutions
20
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:24,920
provided generally more focused
on keeping the authoritarians in
21
00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,000
power than on actually solving
any of humanity's issues.
22
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,720
And thus we struggle, suffer and
face ever increasing
23
00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,000
dislocations, disharmonies,
obstacles and existential
24
00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,160
threats.
This process occurs due to the
25
00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360
limitations of the mental power
and its intermixture with the
26
00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,080
vital force based in desire and
the actual difficulties of
27
00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,720
managing physical nature.
The natural forces that tend to
28
00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,920
bring about balance in the
physical environment and then as
29
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,120
the vital force evolves in the
interaction between the physical
30
00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,400
and vital, are disrupted with
the evolution of mind.
31
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,960
Which by nature has a somewhat
linear approach to things and
32
00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,840
does not see or take into
account all the myriad aspects
33
00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,080
that go into making a
comprehensive and complete
34
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,680
understanding that can act to
create a New Balance and a new
35
00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,680
harmony.
Each mental intervention is
36
00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,880
intended to bring a progress,
and it generally does in One
37
00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,560
Direction or another, but it
also has a wide variety of
38
00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,320
unintended consequences.
Once the developed mental
39
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,560
consciousness becomes aware of
this dynamic, it begins to
40
00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,800
realize that the solution does
not lie in mental planning or
41
00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,760
processes, but in the evolution
and development of a next stage
42
00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,400
of consciousness in the
evolutionary scale.
43
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,360
A stage which can comprehend the
entirety of the issues and
44
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,720
forces at work and which can
know the harmonious balance that
45
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,880
needs to be achieved and
maintained.
46
00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,880
This is then the place where the
spiritual consciousness as
47
00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,520
manifested in what tree or a
window and the Mother call the
48
00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,280
Super mental consciousness comes
into play.
49
00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,800
The spiritual consciousness does
not rely on mental argument, but
50
00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,960
on the force of its
consciousness in and of itself
51
00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,880
in creating an atmosphere and
spiritual pressure that helps
52
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,520
all beings respond in effective
and harmonious ways.
53
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,600
The Mother observes quote, and
as soon as one is turned towards
54
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,360
the spiritual life and reality,
one touches the Infinite, the
55
00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,160
eternal, and there can no longer
be any question of a greater or
56
00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400
smaller number of capacities or
possibilities.
57
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,680
It is the mental conception of
spiritual life which may say
58
00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080
that one has more or less
capacity to live spiritually,
59
00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360
but this is not at all an
adequate statement.
60
00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,640
What may be said is that one is
more or less ready for the
61
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,519
decisive and total reversal.
In reality.
62
00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,360
It is the mental capacity to
withdraw from ordinary
63
00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,680
activities and to set out in
search of the spiritual life
64
00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,400
which can be measured.
But so long as one is in the
65
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120
mental field, in this state as
it were, on this plane of
66
00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,000
consciousness, 1 can't do much
for others, either for life in
67
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,080
general or for particular
individuals, because one doesn't
68
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,200
have the certitude oneself, 1
doesn't have the definitive
69
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,280
experience.
The consciousness has not been
70
00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,480
established in the spiritual
world.
71
00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:00,920
And all that can be said is that
they are mental activities which
72
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,760
have their good and bad sides,
but not much power, and in any
73
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:11,560
case not this power of spiritual
contagion, which is the only
74
00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,200
true effective power.
The only thing that is truly
75
00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,280
effective is the possibility of
transferring to others, the
76
00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,960
state of consciousness in which
one lives oneself.
77
00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,960
But this power cannot be
invented, 1 cannot imitate it,
78
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,800
cannot seem to have it.
It only comes spontaneously when
79
00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,040
one is established in that state
oneself, when one lives within
80
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,120
it and not when one is trying to
live within it, when one is
81
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,160
there.
And that is why all those who
82
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,080
truly have a spiritual life
cannot be deceived.
83
00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,360
An imitation of spiritual life
may delude people who still live
84
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,360
in the mind, but those who have
realized this reversal of
85
00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,200
consciousness in themselves,
whose relation with the outer
86
00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,080
being is completely different,
cannot be deceived and cannot
87
00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640
make a mistake.
End Quote.
88
00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:16,680
Reference Sri Orovindo and the
Mother Powers Within, Chapter
89
00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,960
22, Spirit, pages 167 to 168.
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