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Feb. 7, 2025

The Power of the Spiritual Consciousness Is Needed to Overcome the Limitations of the Mental Approach to Existence

The Power of the Spiritual Consciousness Is Needed to Overcome the Limitations of the Mental Approach to Existence

reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter XXII Spirit, pp. 167-168

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As the mental consciousness
awakens, particularly if there's

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an influence coming from the
psychic being or from the

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spiritual planes pressing down
on the mental being, we become

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aware of virtually endless
problems, issues, difficulties,

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imbalances, disharmonies, and
outright conflicts in the world

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and how we interact with each
other and our environment.

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Those with a positive attitude
and energy naturally want to do

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something to help straighten
this out.

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They try many things.
This is how humanity comes up

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with solutions based on
technology or economic system

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adjustments, scientific
advancements that are supposed

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to solve some issue or other
political systems, religious

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doctrines or sociological
improvements, as well as

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enhancements in education,
lawmaking, et cetera.

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Eventually competing ideas are
held by competing factions and a

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form of gridlock occurs and
nothing can be done.

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When we become frustrated at
slow progress, we try

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authoritarian rule.
This has its own serious

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drawbacks, with a reliance on
one sided short term solutions

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provided generally more focused
on keeping the authoritarians in

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power than on actually solving
any of humanity's issues.

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And thus we struggle, suffer and
face ever increasing

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dislocations, disharmonies,
obstacles and existential

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threats.
This process occurs due to the

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limitations of the mental power
and its intermixture with the

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vital force based in desire and
the actual difficulties of

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managing physical nature.
The natural forces that tend to

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bring about balance in the
physical environment and then as

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the vital force evolves in the
interaction between the physical

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and vital, are disrupted with
the evolution of mind.

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Which by nature has a somewhat
linear approach to things and

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does not see or take into
account all the myriad aspects

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that go into making a
comprehensive and complete

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understanding that can act to
create a New Balance and a new

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harmony.
Each mental intervention is

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intended to bring a progress,
and it generally does in One

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Direction or another, but it
also has a wide variety of

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unintended consequences.
Once the developed mental

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consciousness becomes aware of
this dynamic, it begins to

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realize that the solution does
not lie in mental planning or

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processes, but in the evolution
and development of a next stage

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of consciousness in the
evolutionary scale.

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A stage which can comprehend the
entirety of the issues and

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forces at work and which can
know the harmonious balance that

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needs to be achieved and
maintained.

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This is then the place where the
spiritual consciousness as

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manifested in what tree or a
window and the Mother call the

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Super mental consciousness comes
into play.

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The spiritual consciousness does
not rely on mental argument, but

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on the force of its
consciousness in and of itself

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in creating an atmosphere and
spiritual pressure that helps

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all beings respond in effective
and harmonious ways.

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The Mother observes quote, and
as soon as one is turned towards

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the spiritual life and reality,
one touches the Infinite, the

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eternal, and there can no longer
be any question of a greater or

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smaller number of capacities or
possibilities.

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It is the mental conception of
spiritual life which may say

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that one has more or less
capacity to live spiritually,

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but this is not at all an
adequate statement.

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What may be said is that one is
more or less ready for the

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decisive and total reversal.
In reality.

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It is the mental capacity to
withdraw from ordinary

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activities and to set out in
search of the spiritual life

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which can be measured.
But so long as one is in the

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mental field, in this state as
it were, on this plane of

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consciousness, 1 can't do much
for others, either for life in

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general or for particular
individuals, because one doesn't

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have the certitude oneself, 1
doesn't have the definitive

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experience.
The consciousness has not been

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established in the spiritual
world.

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And all that can be said is that
they are mental activities which

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have their good and bad sides,
but not much power, and in any

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case not this power of spiritual
contagion, which is the only

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true effective power.
The only thing that is truly

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effective is the possibility of
transferring to others, the

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state of consciousness in which
one lives oneself.

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But this power cannot be
invented, 1 cannot imitate it,

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cannot seem to have it.
It only comes spontaneously when

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one is established in that state
oneself, when one lives within

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it and not when one is trying to
live within it, when one is

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there.
And that is why all those who

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truly have a spiritual life
cannot be deceived.

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An imitation of spiritual life
may delude people who still live

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in the mind, but those who have
realized this reversal of

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consciousness in themselves,
whose relation with the outer

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being is completely different,
cannot be deceived and cannot

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make a mistake.
End Quote.

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Reference Sri Orovindo and the
Mother Powers Within, Chapter

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22, Spirit, pages 167 to 168.