Jan. 8, 2023
The Mind as a Helper, the Mind as an Obstacle for Spiritual Development
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/01/06/the-mind-as-a-helper-the-mind-as-an-obstacle-for-spiritual-development/
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If we view the vast array of
methods recommended by spiritual
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00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:09,900
paths with the world, we find
that many of them utilize
3
00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:14,700
various forms of mental, focus
or concentration in order to
4
00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,600
achieve specific results along
the way.
5
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Tibetan yoga for instance as
intensive visualization
6
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,900
techniques, along with
concentrations of various sorts
7
00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,900
and meditation.
Many paths recommend use of
8
00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:35,400
various prayers or mantras
formulated in the mind to guide,
9
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,500
the awareness in the proper
direction.
10
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000
A large number of paths
recommend reading and
11
00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,800
contemplation on the truths set
forth in their respective
12
00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,300
scriptural texts.
We can deduce from this review
13
00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:54,300
that harnessing the power of the
Mind in the spiritual Quest can
14
00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:59,000
be of extreme value and
importance for the Seeker along
15
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000
the way, the Kano punish odd
reminds us.
16
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,800
However, that the power of the
mind is not in and of itself.
17
00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:13,400
Sufficient to experience and
fully comprehend the reality and
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00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,100
truth of existence.
There is yet a power and then
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experience of that power that
lies beyond the mind.
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Just as it is a positive force
at certain stages of the
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00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,500
spiritual practice.
The mind can become an obstacle
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itself.
When it tries to assert, its
23
00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:37,700
ignorant to limit or deny the
spiritual truths, the being
24
00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:41,400
experiences.
But there are also more subtle
25
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,800
concerns about the influence of
the mind for which the Seeker
26
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Must Be watchful the mindset and
attitude with which one
27
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approaches.
Anything as a distinct influence
28
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on how things are perceived.
Our mind tend to fill in data
29
00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:06,200
and interpretations in any event
or experience Thus, we
30
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,100
substitute mental calculation
and predispositions for an
31
00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,100
actual understanding of the
deeper reality.
32
00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:20,700
The mother observes quote.
What I mean is that every
33
00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:24,200
definite mental formation,
always gives a particular
34
00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,700
coloring to the experience.
As for example, with all people
35
00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:33,500
brought up in a certain
religion, their experiences will
36
00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:35,600
always be colored by this
religion.
37
00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:40,500
And in fact, to reach the very
source of the thing, one must
38
00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,300
free oneself from the external
formation.
39
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But there is a kind of reading
which awakens in you and
40
00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:51,400
interest in the thing and can
help you in the first speakings.
41
00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:57,800
Usually, even if one has had
experiences when need to contact
42
00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,400
a thought or idea with the thing
so that the effort may be
43
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,100
crystallized more consciously,
but the more one knows, the more
44
00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:13,500
one must be absolutely sincere
in this experience that is he
45
00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:16,100
must not use.
Use the formative power of his
46
00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:20,900
mind to imagine.
And so create the experience in
47
00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:24,600
himself from the point of view
of orientation.
48
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,800
It can be useful but from the
point of view of the experience,
49
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it takes away from it.
It's Dynamic value.
50
00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:37,700
It has not the intensity of an
experience which comes because
51
00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:41,500
the moral and spiritual
conditions necessary for it to
52
00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:46,100
occur have been fulfilled.
There is the whole mental
53
00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,000
conditioning, which is added and
which takes away something of
54
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,600
the spontaneity.
All this is a matter of
55
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,200
proportion.
Each one must find the exact
56
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amount.
He needs how much of reading.
57
00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:07,100
How much meditation, how much
concentration, how much it is
58
00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:13,400
different for each one and quote
reference SRI aurobindo in the
59
00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,899
mother growing. being within the
psychology of inner development,
60
00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:22,500
chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
61
00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:17,899
Pages 5251 being within the
psychology of inner development,
62
00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:22,500
chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
63
00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:24,800
Pages 5251
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,700
If we view the vast array of
methods recommended by spiritual
2
00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:09,900
paths with the world, we find
that many of them utilize
3
00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:14,700
various forms of mental, focus
or concentration in order to
4
00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,600
achieve specific results along
the way.
5
00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,800
Tibetan yoga for instance as
intensive visualization
6
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,900
techniques, along with
concentrations of various sorts
7
00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,900
and meditation.
Many paths recommend use of
8
00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:35,400
various prayers or mantras
formulated in the mind to guide,
9
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,500
the awareness in the proper
direction.
10
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000
A large number of paths
recommend reading and
11
00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,800
contemplation on the truths set
forth in their respective
12
00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,300
scriptural texts.
We can deduce from this review
13
00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:54,300
that harnessing the power of the
Mind in the spiritual Quest can
14
00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:59,000
be of extreme value and
importance for the Seeker along
15
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000
the way, the Kano punish odd
reminds us.
16
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,800
However, that the power of the
mind is not in and of itself.
17
00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:13,400
Sufficient to experience and
fully comprehend the reality and
18
00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,100
truth of existence.
There is yet a power and then
19
00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:22,100
experience of that power that
lies beyond the mind.
20
00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,700
Just as it is a positive force
at certain stages of the
21
00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,500
spiritual practice.
The mind can become an obstacle
22
00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,500
itself.
When it tries to assert, its
23
00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:37,700
ignorant to limit or deny the
spiritual truths, the being
24
00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:41,400
experiences.
But there are also more subtle
25
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,800
concerns about the influence of
the mind for which the Seeker
26
00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,500
Must Be watchful the mindset and
attitude with which one
27
00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,800
approaches.
Anything as a distinct influence
28
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,900
on how things are perceived.
Our mind tend to fill in data
29
00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:06,200
and interpretations in any event
or experience Thus, we
30
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,100
substitute mental calculation
and predispositions for an
31
00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,100
actual understanding of the
deeper reality.
32
00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:20,700
The mother observes quote.
What I mean is that every
33
00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:24,200
definite mental formation,
always gives a particular
34
00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,700
coloring to the experience.
As for example, with all people
35
00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:33,500
brought up in a certain
religion, their experiences will
36
00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:35,600
always be colored by this
religion.
37
00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:40,500
And in fact, to reach the very
source of the thing, one must
38
00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,300
free oneself from the external
formation.
39
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,500
But there is a kind of reading
which awakens in you and
40
00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:51,400
interest in the thing and can
help you in the first speakings.
41
00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:57,800
Usually, even if one has had
experiences when need to contact
42
00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,400
a thought or idea with the thing
so that the effort may be
43
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,100
crystallized more consciously,
but the more one knows, the more
44
00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:13,500
one must be absolutely sincere
in this experience that is he
45
00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:16,100
must not use.
Use the formative power of his
46
00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:20,900
mind to imagine.
And so create the experience in
47
00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:24,600
himself from the point of view
of orientation.
48
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,800
It can be useful but from the
point of view of the experience,
49
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,700
it takes away from it.
It's Dynamic value.
50
00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:37,700
It has not the intensity of an
experience which comes because
51
00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:41,500
the moral and spiritual
conditions necessary for it to
52
00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:46,100
occur have been fulfilled.
There is the whole mental
53
00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,000
conditioning, which is added and
which takes away something of
54
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,600
the spontaneity.
All this is a matter of
55
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,200
proportion.
Each one must find the exact
56
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000
amount.
He needs how much of reading.
57
00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:07,100
How much meditation, how much
concentration, how much it is
58
00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:13,400
different for each one and quote
reference SRI aurobindo in the
59
00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,899
mother growing. being within the
psychology of inner development,
60
00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:22,500
chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
61
00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:17,899
Pages 5251 being within the
psychology of inner development,
62
00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:22,500
chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
63
00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:24,800
Pages 5251
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