Aug. 8, 2023
The Limitations of the Reasoning Intelligence and the Need to Maintain It During the Spiritual Practice
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Our Many Selves: Practical Yogic Psychology, Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of the Being, pg. 44 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/08/06/the-limitations-of-the-reasoning-intelligence-and-the-need-to-maintain-it-during-the-spiritual-practice/
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The mental knowledge we acquire
is mostly a form of ignorance,
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reaching out to try to acquire
knowledge in the life Divine
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Triorobindo describes the
various forms of knowledge with
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one exception.
They are set up in the paradigm
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of subject object and the
process of knowing and treats
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the object as something separate
and external to oneself.
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We acquire facts, make
inferences and draw logical
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conclusions to try to ascertain
the truth of whatever we are
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trying to know.
This implies that we cannot
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really ever know everything
about the separated object using
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00:00:46,090 --> 00:00:50,530
these methods, and in fact we
find that knowledge in this
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world is never stable as we are
always finding out new aspects
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00:00:56,650 --> 00:01:00,730
and expanding our knowledge and
experiencing the unintended
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consequences when we try to act
on that partial knowledge that
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we have obtained.
The one form of knowledge which
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goes beyond this ignorant
seeking for knowledge is what
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shriorobindo terms knowledge by
identity.
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This form of knowledge is gained
through unification of the
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consciousness between subject
and object.
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Many who take up spiritual
practices conclude that since
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00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:35,060
external knowledge is flawed and
the reason is limited instrument
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of knowing, that, the correct
method is to abandon it and move
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on to something else.
This idea, however, has its
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flaws and drawbacks,
particularly with respect to the
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control of the vital nature,
which is one of the essential
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functions of the reasoning
intelligence when it is awake
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and active, the mother notes
quote.
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As for the knowledge of which
Sriorobindo speaks here, it is
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00:02:04,030 --> 00:02:07,990
ordinary knowledge.
It is not knowledge by identity.
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00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:12,630
It is knowledge that can be
acquired by the intellect
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through thought through ordinary
means.
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But once again, and in any case,
we shall have occasion to return
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to this when we study the next
aphorism.
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Do not be in a hurry to abandon
reason in the conviction that
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you will immediately attain to
wisdom, because you must be
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ready for wisdom.
Otherwise, by abandoning reason,
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you run a great risk of falling
into unreason, which is rather
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00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:45,430
dangerous.
Many times in his writings,
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particularly in the synthesis of
Yoga, Sriorobindo warns us
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against the imaginings of those
who believe they can do sadhna
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without rigorous selfcontrol and
who heed all sorts of
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inspirations which lead them to
a dangerous imbalance where all
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00:03:04,030 --> 00:03:09,070
their repressed hidden secret
desires come out into the open
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00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:14,370
under the pretense of liberation
from ordinary conventions and
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ordinary reason.
End Quote Reference Srioro Bindu
46
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and the Mother Our Many Selves,
Practical Yogic Psychology,
47
00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:29,970
Chapter 2 Plains and Parts of
the Being, page 44.
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,040
The mental knowledge we acquire
is mostly a form of ignorance,
2
00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,720
reaching out to try to acquire
knowledge in the life Divine
3
00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,400
Triorobindo describes the
various forms of knowledge with
4
00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,360
one exception.
They are set up in the paradigm
5
00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,520
of subject object and the
process of knowing and treats
6
00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,520
the object as something separate
and external to oneself.
7
00:00:28,810 --> 00:00:33,210
We acquire facts, make
inferences and draw logical
8
00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:37,530
conclusions to try to ascertain
the truth of whatever we are
9
00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:41,770
trying to know.
This implies that we cannot
10
00:00:41,770 --> 00:00:46,090
really ever know everything
about the separated object using
11
00:00:46,090 --> 00:00:50,530
these methods, and in fact we
find that knowledge in this
12
00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:55,970
world is never stable as we are
always finding out new aspects
13
00:00:56,650 --> 00:01:00,730
and expanding our knowledge and
experiencing the unintended
14
00:01:00,730 --> 00:01:05,250
consequences when we try to act
on that partial knowledge that
15
00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:09,210
we have obtained.
The one form of knowledge which
16
00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:13,130
goes beyond this ignorant
seeking for knowledge is what
17
00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:16,610
shriorobindo terms knowledge by
identity.
18
00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:20,690
This form of knowledge is gained
through unification of the
19
00:01:20,690 --> 00:01:23,650
consciousness between subject
and object.
20
00:01:25,860 --> 00:01:29,060
Many who take up spiritual
practices conclude that since
21
00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:35,060
external knowledge is flawed and
the reason is limited instrument
22
00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:40,420
of knowing, that, the correct
method is to abandon it and move
23
00:01:40,420 --> 00:01:44,260
on to something else.
This idea, however, has its
24
00:01:44,260 --> 00:01:48,100
flaws and drawbacks,
particularly with respect to the
25
00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:51,870
control of the vital nature,
which is one of the essential
26
00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:54,830
functions of the reasoning
intelligence when it is awake
27
00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:59,110
and active, the mother notes
quote.
28
00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:04,030
As for the knowledge of which
Sriorobindo speaks here, it is
29
00:02:04,030 --> 00:02:07,990
ordinary knowledge.
It is not knowledge by identity.
30
00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:12,630
It is knowledge that can be
acquired by the intellect
31
00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:15,390
through thought through ordinary
means.
32
00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:20,540
But once again, and in any case,
we shall have occasion to return
33
00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,940
to this when we study the next
aphorism.
34
00:02:24,020 --> 00:02:27,620
Do not be in a hurry to abandon
reason in the conviction that
35
00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:31,820
you will immediately attain to
wisdom, because you must be
36
00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:36,540
ready for wisdom.
Otherwise, by abandoning reason,
37
00:02:37,060 --> 00:02:42,060
you run a great risk of falling
into unreason, which is rather
38
00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:45,430
dangerous.
Many times in his writings,
39
00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:50,030
particularly in the synthesis of
Yoga, Sriorobindo warns us
40
00:02:50,030 --> 00:02:54,070
against the imaginings of those
who believe they can do sadhna
41
00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:58,790
without rigorous selfcontrol and
who heed all sorts of
42
00:02:58,790 --> 00:03:04,030
inspirations which lead them to
a dangerous imbalance where all
43
00:03:04,030 --> 00:03:09,070
their repressed hidden secret
desires come out into the open
44
00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:14,370
under the pretense of liberation
from ordinary conventions and
45
00:03:14,370 --> 00:03:20,210
ordinary reason.
End Quote Reference Srioro Bindu
46
00:03:20,210 --> 00:03:24,890
and the Mother Our Many Selves,
Practical Yogic Psychology,
47
00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:29,970
Chapter 2 Plains and Parts of
the Being, page 44.
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