July 17, 2023
The Interaction of the Mind and the Body
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Our Many Selves: Practical Yogic Psychology, Chapter 2, Planes and Parts of the Being, pp. 21-22
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The body has its own
consciousness, and much of its
2
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,480
operation takes place without
active mental intervention.
3
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However, there is also a serious
interaction that takes place so
4
00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,640
that the mental power can
influence, guide, train, direct,
5
00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,160
and otherwise gain at least some
control over certain aspects of
6
00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,800
the body consciousness.
Physical training, whether in
7
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,400
sports, military training or
playing a musical instrument,
8
00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,120
typing, singing, dancing, art or
sculpture, or development of
9
00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,640
other motor skills, represents
one such area of mental
10
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,400
intervention.
The mind can implement a course
11
00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,520
of development for the body such
that it learns how to perceive
12
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200
more accurately and respond to
circumstances.
13
00:00:58,540 --> 00:01:03,140
With certain trained responses,
the level of skill that can be
14
00:01:03,140 --> 00:01:05,420
developed is actually quite
remarkable.
15
00:01:06,380 --> 00:01:10,620
When we observe, for instance,
the precision, grace and skill
16
00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:15,060
of certain Olympic athletes, we
can see a remarkable difference
17
00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:19,220
compared to the untrained
physical body trying to carry
18
00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:24,740
out the same set of routines. 1
Interesting point is that the
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training is not after
implementation.
20
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Totally reliant on direct mental
control after the initial
21
00:01:32,980 --> 00:01:37,100
training routine is put in
place, we saw in a recent
22
00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:40,860
Olympic Games the phenomenon of
one of the top world class
23
00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:45,860
gymnasts having to pull out of
certain competitions because she
24
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recognized that her mind was
interfering with the automatic
25
00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:54,740
trained responses of the body
and thereby putting her at
26
00:01:54,740 --> 00:02:00,090
severe risk of injury.
In the normal course, we do
27
00:02:00,090 --> 00:02:02,730
indeed exercise some amount of
mental will.
28
00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:08,289
For many ordinarily bodily
actions, the body does not
29
00:02:08,289 --> 00:02:12,850
decide to walk on its own, but
requires an impulse from the
30
00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:15,810
mind that tells it to get up and
start moving.
31
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The actual motions of walking
are part of the trained
32
00:02:20,570 --> 00:02:25,210
response, but the impulse to
move right now.
33
00:02:25,950 --> 00:02:28,110
Is a conscious impulse of the
moment.
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It must be remembered that the
interaction is not exclusive,
35
00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:38,030
nor is it a one way St.
The body and its condition can
36
00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:42,950
impact the mental functioning
and the vital can impact both
37
00:02:42,950 --> 00:02:47,270
the body and the mind.
It is the mutual interaction of
38
00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:50,830
all three of these major
components that make up the
39
00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:53,350
actual state of awareness and
action.
40
00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:58,470
We see in our bodily existence
there are further elements in
41
00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:03,110
the interaction, such as the
psychic, the spiritual, planes,
42
00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:07,030
etcetera, but they are not
directly at issue for most
43
00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:12,270
people who live primarily in the
external life of the mind, life,
44
00:03:12,270 --> 00:03:19,110
body complex, Sriorbindo
observes, Quote The body obeys
45
00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:22,390
the mind automatically and those
things in which it is formed or
46
00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:26,270
trained to obey it.
But the relation of the body to
47
00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:30,550
the mind is not in all things
that of an automatic perfect
48
00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:33,510
instrument.
The body also has a
49
00:03:33,510 --> 00:03:38,110
consciousness of its own, and
though it is a submental
50
00:03:38,110 --> 00:03:42,830
instrument or servant
consciousness, it can disobey or
51
00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:47,950
fail to obey as well in many
things, in matters of health and
52
00:03:47,950 --> 00:03:51,590
illness, for instance in all
automatic functionings.
53
00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:56,260
The body acts on its own and is
not a servant of the mind.
54
00:03:57,220 --> 00:04:01,220
If it is fatigued, it can offer
a passive resistance to the
55
00:04:01,220 --> 00:04:04,340
mind's will.
It can cloud the mind with
56
00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:11,180
Thomas inertia, dullness, fumes
of the subconscious, so that the
57
00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:15,060
mind cannot act.
The arm lifts no doubt when it
58
00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:19,940
gets the suggestion, but at
first the legs do not obey when
59
00:04:19,940 --> 00:04:23,640
they are asked to walk.
They have to learn how to leave
60
00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,040
the crawling attitude and
movement and take up the erect
61
00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:32,720
and ambulatory habit.
When you first ask the hand to
62
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,480
draw a straight line or to play
music, it can't do it and won't
63
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,760
do it.
It has to be schooled, trained,
64
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,760
taught and afterwards it does
automatically what is required
65
00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,630
of it.
All this proves that there is a
66
00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:52,870
body consciousness which can do
things at the mind's order, but
67
00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:57,190
has to be awakened, trained,
made a good and conscious
68
00:04:57,190 --> 00:05:00,910
instrument.
It can even be so trained that a
69
00:05:00,910 --> 00:05:06,230
mental will or suggestion can
cure the illness of the body.
70
00:05:06,910 --> 00:05:13,630
End Quote reference Shriorobindo
and the Mother Our Many Selves,
71
00:05:13,630 --> 00:05:16,510
Practical Yogic Psychology,
Chapter 2.
72
00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:21,020
Planes and Parts of the Being,
pages 21 to 22.
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,600
The body has its own
consciousness, and much of its
2
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,480
operation takes place without
active mental intervention.
3
00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,880
However, there is also a serious
interaction that takes place so
4
00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,640
that the mental power can
influence, guide, train, direct,
5
00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,160
and otherwise gain at least some
control over certain aspects of
6
00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,800
the body consciousness.
Physical training, whether in
7
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,400
sports, military training or
playing a musical instrument,
8
00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,120
typing, singing, dancing, art or
sculpture, or development of
9
00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,640
other motor skills, represents
one such area of mental
10
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,400
intervention.
The mind can implement a course
11
00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,520
of development for the body such
that it learns how to perceive
12
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200
more accurately and respond to
circumstances.
13
00:00:58,540 --> 00:01:03,140
With certain trained responses,
the level of skill that can be
14
00:01:03,140 --> 00:01:05,420
developed is actually quite
remarkable.
15
00:01:06,380 --> 00:01:10,620
When we observe, for instance,
the precision, grace and skill
16
00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:15,060
of certain Olympic athletes, we
can see a remarkable difference
17
00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:19,220
compared to the untrained
physical body trying to carry
18
00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:24,740
out the same set of routines. 1
Interesting point is that the
19
00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:27,260
training is not after
implementation.
20
00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:32,980
Totally reliant on direct mental
control after the initial
21
00:01:32,980 --> 00:01:37,100
training routine is put in
place, we saw in a recent
22
00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:40,860
Olympic Games the phenomenon of
one of the top world class
23
00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:45,860
gymnasts having to pull out of
certain competitions because she
24
00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:49,940
recognized that her mind was
interfering with the automatic
25
00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:54,740
trained responses of the body
and thereby putting her at
26
00:01:54,740 --> 00:02:00,090
severe risk of injury.
In the normal course, we do
27
00:02:00,090 --> 00:02:02,730
indeed exercise some amount of
mental will.
28
00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:08,289
For many ordinarily bodily
actions, the body does not
29
00:02:08,289 --> 00:02:12,850
decide to walk on its own, but
requires an impulse from the
30
00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:15,810
mind that tells it to get up and
start moving.
31
00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:20,570
The actual motions of walking
are part of the trained
32
00:02:20,570 --> 00:02:25,210
response, but the impulse to
move right now.
33
00:02:25,950 --> 00:02:28,110
Is a conscious impulse of the
moment.
34
00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:32,830
It must be remembered that the
interaction is not exclusive,
35
00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:38,030
nor is it a one way St.
The body and its condition can
36
00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:42,950
impact the mental functioning
and the vital can impact both
37
00:02:42,950 --> 00:02:47,270
the body and the mind.
It is the mutual interaction of
38
00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:50,830
all three of these major
components that make up the
39
00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:53,350
actual state of awareness and
action.
40
00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:58,470
We see in our bodily existence
there are further elements in
41
00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:03,110
the interaction, such as the
psychic, the spiritual, planes,
42
00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:07,030
etcetera, but they are not
directly at issue for most
43
00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:12,270
people who live primarily in the
external life of the mind, life,
44
00:03:12,270 --> 00:03:19,110
body complex, Sriorbindo
observes, Quote The body obeys
45
00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:22,390
the mind automatically and those
things in which it is formed or
46
00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:26,270
trained to obey it.
But the relation of the body to
47
00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:30,550
the mind is not in all things
that of an automatic perfect
48
00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:33,510
instrument.
The body also has a
49
00:03:33,510 --> 00:03:38,110
consciousness of its own, and
though it is a submental
50
00:03:38,110 --> 00:03:42,830
instrument or servant
consciousness, it can disobey or
51
00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:47,950
fail to obey as well in many
things, in matters of health and
52
00:03:47,950 --> 00:03:51,590
illness, for instance in all
automatic functionings.
53
00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:56,260
The body acts on its own and is
not a servant of the mind.
54
00:03:57,220 --> 00:04:01,220
If it is fatigued, it can offer
a passive resistance to the
55
00:04:01,220 --> 00:04:04,340
mind's will.
It can cloud the mind with
56
00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:11,180
Thomas inertia, dullness, fumes
of the subconscious, so that the
57
00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:15,060
mind cannot act.
The arm lifts no doubt when it
58
00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:19,940
gets the suggestion, but at
first the legs do not obey when
59
00:04:19,940 --> 00:04:23,640
they are asked to walk.
They have to learn how to leave
60
00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,040
the crawling attitude and
movement and take up the erect
61
00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:32,720
and ambulatory habit.
When you first ask the hand to
62
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,480
draw a straight line or to play
music, it can't do it and won't
63
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,760
do it.
It has to be schooled, trained,
64
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,760
taught and afterwards it does
automatically what is required
65
00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,630
of it.
All this proves that there is a
66
00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:52,870
body consciousness which can do
things at the mind's order, but
67
00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:57,190
has to be awakened, trained,
made a good and conscious
68
00:04:57,190 --> 00:05:00,910
instrument.
It can even be so trained that a
69
00:05:00,910 --> 00:05:06,230
mental will or suggestion can
cure the illness of the body.
70
00:05:06,910 --> 00:05:13,630
End Quote reference Shriorobindo
and the Mother Our Many Selves,
71
00:05:13,630 --> 00:05:16,510
Practical Yogic Psychology,
Chapter 2.
72
00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:21,020
Planes and Parts of the Being,
pages 21 to 22.
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