July 1, 2024
The Influence of Unseen, Unperceived Beings and Forces in Our World
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch.6 Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary Forces, pp.136-137 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/06/27/the-influence-of-unseen-unperceived-beings-and-forces-in-our-world/
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When we can once appreciate and
accept the fact that forces
2
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,080
unseen by us, unperceived by our
senses, can and do act on us,
3
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,240
pushing us to act in certain
ways, pressing on us to move in
4
00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:22,040
certain directions, it is but a
small step to recognize that
5
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,360
there are beings who inhabit
these unseen and unperceived
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regions, and that they have
their own goals, objectives,
7
00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,280
agendas, which they carry out
but in their own sphere and in
8
00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,000
their action upon the physical
world.
9
00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,880
As we develop ever more precise
ways to capture and measure
10
00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,960
unseen forces, we begin to
understand more clearly that we
11
00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,040
do not live isolated in our
physical world, apart from the
12
00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,360
spiritual, mental, vital and
subtle physical forces that
13
00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,880
together make up the action of
our external lives.
14
00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,840
We did not know until fairly
recently that activity of the
15
00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,840
Sun in the form of solar flares
could be disruptive to our
16
00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,560
lives, our ability to
communicate, our GPS signals,
17
00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,640
and the very framework of modern
life in its technology.
18
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,760
Now we understand that these
solar events can have a massive
19
00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,200
impact on our world.
We did not appreciate until
20
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,440
recently that various disease
states were transmitted by
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00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,360
unseen organisms that have a
life of their own that can enter
22
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,200
into our vital and physical
bodies and create conditions
23
00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,000
under which we suffer.
Now we understand that viruses
24
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,040
and bacteria and mold spores,
fungus and other unseen yet
25
00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,280
nevertheless present organisms
can dramatically impact our
26
00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,080
lives and our health and disrupt
the society in dramatic ways in
27
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,920
the form of pandemics and other
upheavals caused by widespread
28
00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,759
disease and the impacts it
creates in the world.
29
00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,360
We did not understand until
fairly recently in human
30
00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,320
existence that an unseen force
we call electricity could be
31
00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,880
harnessed to power our modern
industrial and technological
32
00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,440
development.
We did not understand until
33
00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,720
fairly recently that other
unseen forces, such as the force
34
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,560
of gravity, controlled much of
our ability to live and act.
35
00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,120
We did not understand the
ability of plants to capture
36
00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,440
solar radiation and convert it
into material forms which could
37
00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,440
provide food sustenance to our
bodies.
38
00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:55,960
We now understand that there is
a spectrum of wavelengths of
39
00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,240
which we can perceive only a
small portion, but nevertheless
40
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,320
the unseen unperceived portions
still impact us.
41
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,920
We are beginning to recognize
that other things, which we
42
00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:15,040
could not explain through any
perceptible cause, have their
43
00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,400
origin in a vital mental or
spiritual realm that coexists
44
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,800
with us, albeit at a different
vibrational level, and that to
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00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,960
some degree these beings and
forms inhabiting those realms
46
00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,320
can influence and project their
action into our world.
47
00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,880
In fact, our world is an amalgam
of physical, vital, mental and
48
00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,160
spiritual forces, interwoven
tightly with one another,
49
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,560
impacting one another, and
together creating what we know
50
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,920
of as our existence,
Shriorobindo notes quote.
51
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,480
If we scrutinize the intimations
of superphysical world realities
52
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,960
which we receive in our inner
experience, and compare with it
53
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,680
the account of such intimations
that has continued to come down
54
00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560
to us from the beginnings of
human knowledge.
55
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,000
And if we attempt an
interpretation and a summarized
56
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,280
order, we shall find that what
this inner experience most
57
00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:27,880
intimately conveys to us is the
existence and action upon us of
58
00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,840
larger planes of being and
consciousness than the purely
59
00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:36,680
material plane with its
restricted existence and action
60
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,400
of which we are aware in our
narrow terrestrial formula.
61
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These domains of larger being
are not altogether remote and
62
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separate from our own being and
consciousness.
63
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For though they subsist in
themselves and have their own
64
00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,080
play and process and
formulations of existence and
65
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,880
experience, yet at the same time
they penetrate and envelope the
66
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480
physical plane with their
invisible presence and
67
00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,120
influences.
And their powers seem to be here
68
00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,600
in the material world itself,
behind its action and objects.
69
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,000
There are two main orders of
experience in our contact with
70
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,680
them.
One is purely subjective, though
71
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,320
in its subjectivity sufficiently
vivid and palpable.
72
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The other is more objective.
In the subjective order we find
73
00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,040
that what shapes itself to us as
a life, intention, life,
74
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,440
impulse, life formulation here
already exists in a larger, more
75
00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,520
subtle, more plastic range of
possibilities.
76
00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,720
And these pre existent forces
and formulations are pressing
77
00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,800
upon us to realize themselves in
the physical world also.
78
00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:01,600
But only a part succeeds in
getting through, and even that
79
00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,880
emerges partially in a form and
circumstance more proper to the
80
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640
system of terrestrial law and
sequence.
81
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This precipitation takes place
normally without our knowledge.
82
00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,760
We are not aware of the action
of these powers, forces and
83
00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,880
influences upon us, but take
them as formations of our own
84
00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,720
life and mind, even when our
reason or will repudiates them
85
00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:35,200
and strives not to be mastered.
But when we go inwards, away
86
00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,240
from the restricted surface
consciousness, and develop a
87
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,320
subtler sense and deeper
awareness, we begin to get an
88
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,000
intimation of the origin of
these and are able to watch
89
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,200
their action and process, to
accept or reject or modify, to
90
00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,560
allow them passage and use of
our mind and will and our life
91
00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,720
and members or refuse it.
In the same way we become aware
92
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,360
of larger domains of mind, a
play experience, formation of a
93
00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,960
greater plasticity, a teeming
profusion of all possible mental
94
00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,680
formulations, and we feel their
contacts with us and their
95
00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,480
powers and influences acting
upon our parts of mind in the
96
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,440
same occult manner as those
others act upon our parts of
97
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040
life.
This kind of experience is
98
00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,960
primarily of a purely subjective
character, a pressure of ideas,
99
00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,400
suggestions, emotional
formations, impulsions to
100
00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:46,640
sensation, action, dynamic
experience, however large a part
101
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of this pressure may be traced
to our own subliminal self, or
102
00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,320
to the siege of universal mind
forces or life forces belonging
103
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to our own world.
There is an element which bears
104
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the stamp of another origin, an
insistent supra terrestrial
105
00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:12,280
character.
End Quote Reference Shriorobindo
106
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and the Mother, The Hidden
Forces of Life, Chapter 6 Hidden
107
00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,720
Worlds and Evolutionary Forces,
pages 136 to 137.
00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,480
When we can once appreciate and
accept the fact that forces
2
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,080
unseen by us, unperceived by our
senses, can and do act on us,
3
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,240
pushing us to act in certain
ways, pressing on us to move in
4
00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:22,040
certain directions, it is but a
small step to recognize that
5
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,360
there are beings who inhabit
these unseen and unperceived
6
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,640
regions, and that they have
their own goals, objectives,
7
00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,280
agendas, which they carry out
but in their own sphere and in
8
00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,000
their action upon the physical
world.
9
00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,880
As we develop ever more precise
ways to capture and measure
10
00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,960
unseen forces, we begin to
understand more clearly that we
11
00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,040
do not live isolated in our
physical world, apart from the
12
00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,360
spiritual, mental, vital and
subtle physical forces that
13
00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,880
together make up the action of
our external lives.
14
00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,840
We did not know until fairly
recently that activity of the
15
00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,840
Sun in the form of solar flares
could be disruptive to our
16
00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,560
lives, our ability to
communicate, our GPS signals,
17
00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,640
and the very framework of modern
life in its technology.
18
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,760
Now we understand that these
solar events can have a massive
19
00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,200
impact on our world.
We did not appreciate until
20
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,440
recently that various disease
states were transmitted by
21
00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,360
unseen organisms that have a
life of their own that can enter
22
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,200
into our vital and physical
bodies and create conditions
23
00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,000
under which we suffer.
Now we understand that viruses
24
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,040
and bacteria and mold spores,
fungus and other unseen yet
25
00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,280
nevertheless present organisms
can dramatically impact our
26
00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,080
lives and our health and disrupt
the society in dramatic ways in
27
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,920
the form of pandemics and other
upheavals caused by widespread
28
00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,759
disease and the impacts it
creates in the world.
29
00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,360
We did not understand until
fairly recently in human
30
00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,320
existence that an unseen force
we call electricity could be
31
00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,880
harnessed to power our modern
industrial and technological
32
00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,440
development.
We did not understand until
33
00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,720
fairly recently that other
unseen forces, such as the force
34
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,560
of gravity, controlled much of
our ability to live and act.
35
00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,120
We did not understand the
ability of plants to capture
36
00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,440
solar radiation and convert it
into material forms which could
37
00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,440
provide food sustenance to our
bodies.
38
00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:55,960
We now understand that there is
a spectrum of wavelengths of
39
00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,240
which we can perceive only a
small portion, but nevertheless
40
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,320
the unseen unperceived portions
still impact us.
41
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,920
We are beginning to recognize
that other things, which we
42
00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:15,040
could not explain through any
perceptible cause, have their
43
00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,400
origin in a vital mental or
spiritual realm that coexists
44
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,800
with us, albeit at a different
vibrational level, and that to
45
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,960
some degree these beings and
forms inhabiting those realms
46
00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,320
can influence and project their
action into our world.
47
00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,880
In fact, our world is an amalgam
of physical, vital, mental and
48
00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,160
spiritual forces, interwoven
tightly with one another,
49
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,560
impacting one another, and
together creating what we know
50
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,920
of as our existence,
Shriorobindo notes quote.
51
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,480
If we scrutinize the intimations
of superphysical world realities
52
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,960
which we receive in our inner
experience, and compare with it
53
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,680
the account of such intimations
that has continued to come down
54
00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560
to us from the beginnings of
human knowledge.
55
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,000
And if we attempt an
interpretation and a summarized
56
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,280
order, we shall find that what
this inner experience most
57
00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:27,880
intimately conveys to us is the
existence and action upon us of
58
00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,840
larger planes of being and
consciousness than the purely
59
00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:36,680
material plane with its
restricted existence and action
60
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,400
of which we are aware in our
narrow terrestrial formula.
61
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,160
These domains of larger being
are not altogether remote and
62
00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,160
separate from our own being and
consciousness.
63
00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,640
For though they subsist in
themselves and have their own
64
00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,080
play and process and
formulations of existence and
65
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,880
experience, yet at the same time
they penetrate and envelope the
66
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480
physical plane with their
invisible presence and
67
00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,120
influences.
And their powers seem to be here
68
00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,600
in the material world itself,
behind its action and objects.
69
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,000
There are two main orders of
experience in our contact with
70
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,680
them.
One is purely subjective, though
71
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,320
in its subjectivity sufficiently
vivid and palpable.
72
00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,160
The other is more objective.
In the subjective order we find
73
00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,040
that what shapes itself to us as
a life, intention, life,
74
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,440
impulse, life formulation here
already exists in a larger, more
75
00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,520
subtle, more plastic range of
possibilities.
76
00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,720
And these pre existent forces
and formulations are pressing
77
00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,800
upon us to realize themselves in
the physical world also.
78
00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:01,600
But only a part succeeds in
getting through, and even that
79
00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,880
emerges partially in a form and
circumstance more proper to the
80
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640
system of terrestrial law and
sequence.
81
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,440
This precipitation takes place
normally without our knowledge.
82
00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,760
We are not aware of the action
of these powers, forces and
83
00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,880
influences upon us, but take
them as formations of our own
84
00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,720
life and mind, even when our
reason or will repudiates them
85
00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:35,200
and strives not to be mastered.
But when we go inwards, away
86
00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,240
from the restricted surface
consciousness, and develop a
87
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,320
subtler sense and deeper
awareness, we begin to get an
88
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,000
intimation of the origin of
these and are able to watch
89
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,200
their action and process, to
accept or reject or modify, to
90
00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,560
allow them passage and use of
our mind and will and our life
91
00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,720
and members or refuse it.
In the same way we become aware
92
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,360
of larger domains of mind, a
play experience, formation of a
93
00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,960
greater plasticity, a teeming
profusion of all possible mental
94
00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,680
formulations, and we feel their
contacts with us and their
95
00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,480
powers and influences acting
upon our parts of mind in the
96
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,440
same occult manner as those
others act upon our parts of
97
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040
life.
This kind of experience is
98
00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,960
primarily of a purely subjective
character, a pressure of ideas,
99
00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,400
suggestions, emotional
formations, impulsions to
100
00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:46,640
sensation, action, dynamic
experience, however large a part
101
00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,360
of this pressure may be traced
to our own subliminal self, or
102
00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,320
to the siege of universal mind
forces or life forces belonging
103
00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,680
to our own world.
There is an element which bears
104
00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:05,800
the stamp of another origin, an
insistent supra terrestrial
105
00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:12,280
character.
End Quote Reference Shriorobindo
106
00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,160
and the Mother, The Hidden
Forces of Life, Chapter 6 Hidden
107
00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,720
Worlds and Evolutionary Forces,
pages 136 to 137.
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