Jan. 10, 2023
The Human Need for an Object to Venerate and to Be Guided By in the Spiritual Path
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/01/07/the-human-need-for-an-object-to-venerate-and-to-be-guided-by-in-the-spiritual-path/
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For the vast majority of
individuals, the idea of
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00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,900
confronting the vast
Consciousness without any
3
00:00:08,900 --> 00:00:14,200
discernible or identifiable,
form is overwhelming, anything
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00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:19,500
that is undefined or unlimited
breeds discomfort and fear in
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00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:24,300
our being.
In the bhagavad-gita Arjuna is
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00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:28,300
confronted with a vision of the
Divine in a vast all-powerful
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00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:32,000
form, far beyond what he was
prepared to handle.
8
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He begged SRI Krishnan to return
to his normal four-armed form
9
00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:43,600
and to shower Grace upon him.
Fewer, those who can confront
10
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,700
the larger forms of the
universal creation, much less
11
00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:53,800
the vast formless reality. when
our hearts and Minds, turn
12
00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,900
towards spiritual growth, we
therefore seek out and Associate
13
00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:02,700
ourselves with some specific
form of deity or specific
14
00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:07,500
manifestation of the Divine in
form or at the very least with
15
00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:13,100
intermediaries, teachers gurus
who provide us a close and
16
00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:18,200
defined relationship with the
divine This allows us to grow
17
00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,300
and mature in our spiritual
understanding over time within
18
00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:26,300
defined limits that we have set
at each stage of our growth.
19
00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:31,900
Not every individual follows,
the same form of God or the same
20
00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:37,100
Incarnation or the same teacher
yet as a general rule, each
21
00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:41,100
individual aligns with someone
or something that can Aid us in
22
00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:45,600
our growth.
Even the atheist who denies the
23
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,000
existence It's of God find some
object or person with whom, he
24
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,700
aligned himself in his own path
of growth.
25
00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:58,300
Meanwhile we cast our teachers
as avatars or incarnations of
26
00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:03,400
God and in many cases believe
and act upon that belief.
27
00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000
That the Divinity we worship the
teacher we follow is the highest
28
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000
Divinity and ultimate World
teacher.
29
00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,300
What we then fail to recognize
is that the form the Divine
30
00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:21,400
guidance takes for each of us is
unique to our own personal.
31
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,100
Background and religious or
spiritual tradition.
32
00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:33,400
Thus, a Christian will have
visions of Jesus or Mary while a
33
00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,100
Hindu may experience the
presence of Lord Krishna or
34
00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:40,900
Lord, Shiva.
This does not set one deity
35
00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:45,100
above another, but simply
represents the form that the
36
00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:49,700
specific individual based on his
background and experiential
37
00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:57,500
mindset can see and understand.
SRI aurobindo notes, quote, the
38
00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:01,500
spiritual progress of most human
beings demands and extraneous
39
00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:04,800
support an object of Faith
outside us.
40
00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:10,400
It needs an external image of
God or it needs a human
41
00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,800
representative.
Incarnation profit were Guru or
42
00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,700
a demands both and receives them
for according to the need of the
43
00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,800
human soul, the Divine manifests
himself, Has deity as human
44
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,500
Divine or in simple Humanity
using that thick disguise.
45
00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:36,400
Which so successfully conceals
the godhead for a means of
46
00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,900
transmission of his guidance.
The Hindu discipline of
47
00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,100
spirituality provides for this
need of the sold, by the
48
00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:49,100
conceptions of the ishta,
devatha the Avatar, and the guru
49
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,200
by the ishta, devatha, The
Chosen deity is meant, not some
50
00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,600
inferior power, but a name and
form of the Transcendent and
51
00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,100
Universal godhead.
Almost all religions either have
52
00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:06,500
as their base or make use of
some such name and form of the
53
00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:12,400
Divine, its necessity for the
human soul, is evident, God is
54
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the all and more than the all,
but that which is more than the
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00:04:16,899 --> 00:04:19,000
all.
How shall men conceive?
56
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800
And even the all is it first too
hard for him?
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For he himself in his act of
Consciousness, is a limited and
58
00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:32,500
selective formation and can open
himself only to that, which is
59
00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:35,300
in harmony with his limited
nature.
60
00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,600
There are things in the all
which are too hard for his
61
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comprehension or seem too
terrible to his sensitive
62
00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:46,500
emotions and cowering
Sensations.
63
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We're simply he cannot conceive
as the Divine cannot approach or
64
00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,400
cannot recognize something that
is too much out of the circle of
65
00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,100
his ignorant or partial
conceptions.
66
00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:03,800
It is necessary for him to
conceive God in his own image,
67
00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,100
or in some form that is beyond
himself.
68
00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:13,000
But consonant, With His Highest
Tendencies and feasible by his
69
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,000
feelings or his intelligence
Otherwise it would be difficult
70
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,600
for him to come into contact and
communion with the Divine and
71
00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,700
quote, reference SRI aurobindo
in the mother growing within the
72
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psychology of inner development.
Chapter 3 growth of
73
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Consciousness, basic requisites
Pages, 52 to 53,
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,400
For the vast majority of
individuals, the idea of
2
00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,900
confronting the vast
Consciousness without any
3
00:00:08,900 --> 00:00:14,200
discernible or identifiable,
form is overwhelming, anything
4
00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:19,500
that is undefined or unlimited
breeds discomfort and fear in
5
00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:24,300
our being.
In the bhagavad-gita Arjuna is
6
00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:28,300
confronted with a vision of the
Divine in a vast all-powerful
7
00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:32,000
form, far beyond what he was
prepared to handle.
8
00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,000
He begged SRI Krishnan to return
to his normal four-armed form
9
00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:43,600
and to shower Grace upon him.
Fewer, those who can confront
10
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,700
the larger forms of the
universal creation, much less
11
00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:53,800
the vast formless reality. when
our hearts and Minds, turn
12
00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,900
towards spiritual growth, we
therefore seek out and Associate
13
00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:02,700
ourselves with some specific
form of deity or specific
14
00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:07,500
manifestation of the Divine in
form or at the very least with
15
00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:13,100
intermediaries, teachers gurus
who provide us a close and
16
00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:18,200
defined relationship with the
divine This allows us to grow
17
00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,300
and mature in our spiritual
understanding over time within
18
00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:26,300
defined limits that we have set
at each stage of our growth.
19
00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:31,900
Not every individual follows,
the same form of God or the same
20
00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:37,100
Incarnation or the same teacher
yet as a general rule, each
21
00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:41,100
individual aligns with someone
or something that can Aid us in
22
00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:45,600
our growth.
Even the atheist who denies the
23
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,000
existence It's of God find some
object or person with whom, he
24
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,700
aligned himself in his own path
of growth.
25
00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:58,300
Meanwhile we cast our teachers
as avatars or incarnations of
26
00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:03,400
God and in many cases believe
and act upon that belief.
27
00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000
That the Divinity we worship the
teacher we follow is the highest
28
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000
Divinity and ultimate World
teacher.
29
00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,300
What we then fail to recognize
is that the form the Divine
30
00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:21,400
guidance takes for each of us is
unique to our own personal.
31
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,100
Background and religious or
spiritual tradition.
32
00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:33,400
Thus, a Christian will have
visions of Jesus or Mary while a
33
00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,100
Hindu may experience the
presence of Lord Krishna or
34
00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:40,900
Lord, Shiva.
This does not set one deity
35
00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:45,100
above another, but simply
represents the form that the
36
00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:49,700
specific individual based on his
background and experiential
37
00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:57,500
mindset can see and understand.
SRI aurobindo notes, quote, the
38
00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:01,500
spiritual progress of most human
beings demands and extraneous
39
00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:04,800
support an object of Faith
outside us.
40
00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:10,400
It needs an external image of
God or it needs a human
41
00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,800
representative.
Incarnation profit were Guru or
42
00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,700
a demands both and receives them
for according to the need of the
43
00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,800
human soul, the Divine manifests
himself, Has deity as human
44
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,500
Divine or in simple Humanity
using that thick disguise.
45
00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:36,400
Which so successfully conceals
the godhead for a means of
46
00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,900
transmission of his guidance.
The Hindu discipline of
47
00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,100
spirituality provides for this
need of the sold, by the
48
00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:49,100
conceptions of the ishta,
devatha the Avatar, and the guru
49
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,200
by the ishta, devatha, The
Chosen deity is meant, not some
50
00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,600
inferior power, but a name and
form of the Transcendent and
51
00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,100
Universal godhead.
Almost all religions either have
52
00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:06,500
as their base or make use of
some such name and form of the
53
00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:12,400
Divine, its necessity for the
human soul, is evident, God is
54
00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,899
the all and more than the all,
but that which is more than the
55
00:04:16,899 --> 00:04:19,000
all.
How shall men conceive?
56
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800
And even the all is it first too
hard for him?
57
00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,900
For he himself in his act of
Consciousness, is a limited and
58
00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:32,500
selective formation and can open
himself only to that, which is
59
00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:35,300
in harmony with his limited
nature.
60
00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,600
There are things in the all
which are too hard for his
61
00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,500
comprehension or seem too
terrible to his sensitive
62
00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:46,500
emotions and cowering
Sensations.
63
00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,500
We're simply he cannot conceive
as the Divine cannot approach or
64
00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,400
cannot recognize something that
is too much out of the circle of
65
00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,100
his ignorant or partial
conceptions.
66
00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:03,800
It is necessary for him to
conceive God in his own image,
67
00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,100
or in some form that is beyond
himself.
68
00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:13,000
But consonant, With His Highest
Tendencies and feasible by his
69
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,000
feelings or his intelligence
Otherwise it would be difficult
70
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,600
for him to come into contact and
communion with the Divine and
71
00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,700
quote, reference SRI aurobindo
in the mother growing within the
72
00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:33,400
psychology of inner development.
Chapter 3 growth of
73
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,200
Consciousness, basic requisites
Pages, 52 to 53,
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