Jan. 11, 2023
The Human Need for an Intermediary to the Divine Brings About the Presence of the Avatar, the World-Teacher, or the Human Guru
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/01/09/the-human-need-for-an-intermediary-to-the-divine-brings-about-the-presence-of-the-avatar-the-world-teacher-or-the-human-guru/
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Spiritual experience is not
realized through following a
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manual or cookbook.
There is not an actual way that
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any prescriptive documentation,
can both tune, the Consciousness
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00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,600
to the spiritual plane nor avoid
the many chances of confusion
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that can arise through mistake,
were through misapplication or
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through misleading indications
provided either by the vital
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00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,500
nature or Forces inimical to the
yogic development of the Seeker.
8
00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:39,900
It is easy to be led astray as
various types of ideas,
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00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:46,400
emotions, feelings, Sensations
experiences and directions.
10
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,700
Come during the practice.
The role of the human guide Guru
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00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:58,500
teacher is to Aid, the Seeker
along the way to help him focus
12
00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:02,400
on the spiritual Energies.
To help create an atmosphere
13
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,700
that is supportive of the needed
development and to watch over
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and protect him from various
obstructions that threatened to
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derail the effort, the long
history of the guru, taking a
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disciple into the household, or
ashram and providing, both
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instruction, and a supportive
atmosphere sets an example.
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Those were visited ashram such
as Ramana maharshi's ashram in
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00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,600
tiruvannamalai or the SRI
aurobindo ashram and puducherry
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India report an intensity of
Silence aspiration and what can
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only be called a spiritual
pressure descending into the
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being while.
One is there. many sadhaks who
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spent numerous years under the
direct guidance and watchful eye
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of Sri aurobindo and the mother
report, not only the solid
25
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Descent of Peace but also
experiences such as a type of
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drilling of force descending
through the top of the head
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bringing with it, various
experiences of Peace, power
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wideness Joy, creative
expression that said True.
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People does ask.
What if I do not have a physical
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Guru?
Can I still make progress in
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00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,500
yoga?
As well as do.
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I need to live in an ashram to
grow spiritually, the answer to
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both of these questions is that
while some individuals need that
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direct physical support and
atmosphere, this is not
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universally needed if there is a
connection at the level of
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Consciousness, which is one with
the guide or teacher.
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It is said that when the
disciple is ready to Guru
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00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,800
appears but this does not
necessarily imply.
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A physical presence, many report
receiving instructions from
40
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their Guru, while meditating or
even in the dream state
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00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,700
similarly experiences of opening
to the force of the guru come
42
00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,800
when one directs, the
Consciousness toward the guru or
43
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,000
even visualize has passed in
counters at the ashram. or
44
00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,100
through meditation to place
oneself back into a time, and
45
00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:26,400
place where the experience and
the force were palpable in the
46
00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,700
presence of the guru SRI,
aurobindo writes, quote, even
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then his Nature Calls for a
human intermediary, so that he
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may feel the Divine in something
entirely close to his own
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humanity and sensible in a human
influence and example, This call
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is Satisfied by the Divine
manifest in a human appearance.
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The Incarnation, the Avatar
Krishna Christ Buddha, or if
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00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,200
this is too hard for him to
conceive, the Divine represents
53
00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,700
himself through a less
marvelous, intermediary Prophet,
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00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:10,300
or teacher for many who cannot
conceive or are unwilling to
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accept the Divine, man are ready
to open themselves to the
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Supreme man.
Terming him, not Incarnation,
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00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,899
but World teacher were divine
representative.
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This also is not enough.
A living influence, a living
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00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,100
example, a present instruction
is needed for.
60
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It is only the few who can make
the past teacher, and his
61
00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,200
teaching, the past Incarnation,
and his example, and influence a
62
00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,700
living force in their lives.
For this need also, the Hindu
63
00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:48,700
disciplined provides in the
relation of the guru and the
64
00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:53,500
disciple, the guru May sometimes
be the Incarnation or World
65
00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:58,200
teacher but it is sufficient
that he should represent to the
66
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,800
disciple, the Divine wisdom,
conveyed him, something of the
67
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,400
Divine ideal or make him feel
the realize relation of the
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human soul, with the eternal,
And quote, reference SRI
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aurobindo in the mother growing
within the psychology of inner
70
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development.
Chapter 3 growth of
71
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Consciousness basic requisites
page 53,
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,200
Spiritual experience is not
realized through following a
2
00:00:05,208 --> 00:00:09,800
manual or cookbook.
There is not an actual way that
3
00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,400
any prescriptive documentation,
can both tune, the Consciousness
4
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,600
to the spiritual plane nor avoid
the many chances of confusion
5
00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,300
that can arise through mistake,
were through misapplication or
6
00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:28,400
through misleading indications
provided either by the vital
7
00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,500
nature or Forces inimical to the
yogic development of the Seeker.
8
00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:39,900
It is easy to be led astray as
various types of ideas,
9
00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:46,400
emotions, feelings, Sensations
experiences and directions.
10
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,700
Come during the practice.
The role of the human guide Guru
11
00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:58,500
teacher is to Aid, the Seeker
along the way to help him focus
12
00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:02,400
on the spiritual Energies.
To help create an atmosphere
13
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,700
that is supportive of the needed
development and to watch over
14
00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:10,500
and protect him from various
obstructions that threatened to
15
00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:15,500
derail the effort, the long
history of the guru, taking a
16
00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:19,600
disciple into the household, or
ashram and providing, both
17
00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,900
instruction, and a supportive
atmosphere sets an example.
18
00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:29,000
Those were visited ashram such
as Ramana maharshi's ashram in
19
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,600
tiruvannamalai or the SRI
aurobindo ashram and puducherry
20
00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:40,000
India report an intensity of
Silence aspiration and what can
21
00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,200
only be called a spiritual
pressure descending into the
22
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,800
being while.
One is there. many sadhaks who
23
00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,400
spent numerous years under the
direct guidance and watchful eye
24
00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,900
of Sri aurobindo and the mother
report, not only the solid
25
00:01:56,900 --> 00:02:02,000
Descent of Peace but also
experiences such as a type of
26
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,600
drilling of force descending
through the top of the head
27
00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:10,699
bringing with it, various
experiences of Peace, power
28
00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:16,900
wideness Joy, creative
expression that said True.
29
00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:22,200
People does ask.
What if I do not have a physical
30
00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200
Guru?
Can I still make progress in
31
00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,500
yoga?
As well as do.
32
00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:32,300
I need to live in an ashram to
grow spiritually, the answer to
33
00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:35,800
both of these questions is that
while some individuals need that
34
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,700
direct physical support and
atmosphere, this is not
35
00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:43,100
universally needed if there is a
connection at the level of
36
00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:47,000
Consciousness, which is one with
the guide or teacher.
37
00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:51,000
It is said that when the
disciple is ready to Guru
38
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,800
appears but this does not
necessarily imply.
39
00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,300
A physical presence, many report
receiving instructions from
40
00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:03,200
their Guru, while meditating or
even in the dream state
41
00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,700
similarly experiences of opening
to the force of the guru come
42
00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,800
when one directs, the
Consciousness toward the guru or
43
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,000
even visualize has passed in
counters at the ashram. or
44
00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,100
through meditation to place
oneself back into a time, and
45
00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:26,400
place where the experience and
the force were palpable in the
46
00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,700
presence of the guru SRI,
aurobindo writes, quote, even
47
00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:36,900
then his Nature Calls for a
human intermediary, so that he
48
00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:40,700
may feel the Divine in something
entirely close to his own
49
00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:47,100
humanity and sensible in a human
influence and example, This call
50
00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:50,800
is Satisfied by the Divine
manifest in a human appearance.
51
00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:58,300
The Incarnation, the Avatar
Krishna Christ Buddha, or if
52
00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,200
this is too hard for him to
conceive, the Divine represents
53
00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,700
himself through a less
marvelous, intermediary Prophet,
54
00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:10,300
or teacher for many who cannot
conceive or are unwilling to
55
00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:14,500
accept the Divine, man are ready
to open themselves to the
56
00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:18,100
Supreme man.
Terming him, not Incarnation,
57
00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,899
but World teacher were divine
representative.
58
00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,800
This also is not enough.
A living influence, a living
59
00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,100
example, a present instruction
is needed for.
60
00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:35,200
It is only the few who can make
the past teacher, and his
61
00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,200
teaching, the past Incarnation,
and his example, and influence a
62
00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,700
living force in their lives.
For this need also, the Hindu
63
00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:48,700
disciplined provides in the
relation of the guru and the
64
00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:53,500
disciple, the guru May sometimes
be the Incarnation or World
65
00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:58,200
teacher but it is sufficient
that he should represent to the
66
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,800
disciple, the Divine wisdom,
conveyed him, something of the
67
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,400
Divine ideal or make him feel
the realize relation of the
68
00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:14,200
human soul, with the eternal,
And quote, reference SRI
69
00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,400
aurobindo in the mother growing
within the psychology of inner
70
00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,700
development.
Chapter 3 growth of
71
00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:25,200
Consciousness basic requisites
page 53,
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