Oct. 4, 2022
The Gods and the Demons in Our Inner Psychology
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2022/09/30/the-gods-and-the-demons-in-our-inner-psychology/
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We find in the ancient Indian
epic ramayana and interesting
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subplot, which changes the very
complexion of what appears to be
3
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a battle between good
personified by ROM and whose
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family and evil as personified
by ravana and his kin.
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As we delve deeper into the
tail, we find that Ravenna was
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himself, a great devotee of
Lord, Shiva yet.
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00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:31,700
The Story Goes even deeper it,
turns out Up that ravana in a
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past lifetime was a doorkeeper
for Lord, Vishnu attending
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00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:42,000
closely and with great devotion
in visnu's Heavenly Abode along
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00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,800
with his brother kumbhakarna.
One day, some rishi's demanded
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00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,500
entry and were delayed and
therefore curse them to take
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00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:54,300
three human births before they
could return to Heaven.
13
00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,900
They took birth as a Sorak
beings and carried out, Untold
14
00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:02,500
destruction, and impose,
Suffering on innumerable beings.
15
00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:07,100
So as to obtain the attention of
Lord, Vishnu and have their
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00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:09,600
human life ended at the hands of
the god.
17
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,500
They adored Vishnu took birth as
Lord Ram to carry out the wishes
18
00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:18,900
of his devotee and return
rawvana to his rightful place in
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00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:22,300
heaven.
There was obviously both
20
00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:25,100
tremendous darkness and
tremendous Light Within the
21
00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,700
being that incarnated as
Ravenna.
22
00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:32,300
And the curse of the Russia gave
an opportunity for this Darkness
23
00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:36,900
to be exposed and to get it
resolved rather than simply
24
00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:41,000
suppressed.
We many times in today's world,
25
00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,300
try to assign the labels, good
or evil to various individuals,
26
00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,300
particularly brutal dictators
were those who purposely caused
27
00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,800
enormous suffering for others
for their own
28
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,600
self-aggrandizement.
While they may not all be
29
00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,300
visnu's devotees, who have been
cursed, it is quite likely that
30
00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:05,600
at some point in time.
They're tremendous vital force.
31
00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,000
And in some cases, mental Powers
will turn from selfish.
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00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,500
Pursuits to those that recognize
the Oneness of all existence and
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00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,200
work to support the creation in
a positive manner.
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00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,500
And when that time comes their
abilities and the force they
35
00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:27,300
have accumulated Within They're
being will turn the greatest
36
00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:29,600
Darkness into the greatest
light.
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00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:34,200
This does not, of course, imply
that we should accept or condone
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00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,400
such actions in any particular
circumstances, even Shriram had
39
00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,900
to undertake a battle to defeat
rawvana.
40
00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,100
Not just allow his, then current
lifetime depredations to endure
41
00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:53,100
forever, nor does it imply that
we should justify to ourselves
42
00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,700
internally.
The idea that we can act like
43
00:02:56,700 --> 00:03:01,800
demons in order to become
enlightened, the mother notes,
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00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,900
quote, once you have understood
this, many worries come to an
45
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:09,400
end and you are very happy, very
happy.
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00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:12,900
If one find one has very black
holes.
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00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,700
One says this shows I can rise
very high if the abyss is very
48
00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:21,400
deep.
I can climb very high.
49
00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:26,000
It is the same from the
universal point of view to use
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00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,600
the Hindu terminology so
familiar to you.
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It is the greatest asuras who
are the greatest beings of light
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and the day these asuras are
converted, they will be the
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00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,900
Supreme Beings of the creation.
This is not do encourage you to
54
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be a Sorak, you know?
But it is like that this will
55
00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,900
widen your minds a little and
help you to free yourself from
56
00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:54,400
those ideas of opposing.
An evil for if you abide in that
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00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,500
category, there is no hope and
quote.
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00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:04,400
Reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother living within the yoga
59
00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,200
approach to psychological health
and growth exercises for growth
60
00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,900
and Mastery becoming aware of
the Shadow Pages 139 to 143.
00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,900
We find in the ancient Indian
epic ramayana and interesting
2
00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:10,200
subplot, which changes the very
complexion of what appears to be
3
00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,100
a battle between good
personified by ROM and whose
4
00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:19,300
family and evil as personified
by ravana and his kin.
5
00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:23,700
As we delve deeper into the
tail, we find that Ravenna was
6
00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:27,500
himself, a great devotee of
Lord, Shiva yet.
7
00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:31,700
The Story Goes even deeper it,
turns out Up that ravana in a
8
00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:36,500
past lifetime was a doorkeeper
for Lord, Vishnu attending
9
00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:42,000
closely and with great devotion
in visnu's Heavenly Abode along
10
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,800
with his brother kumbhakarna.
One day, some rishi's demanded
11
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,500
entry and were delayed and
therefore curse them to take
12
00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:54,300
three human births before they
could return to Heaven.
13
00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,900
They took birth as a Sorak
beings and carried out, Untold
14
00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:02,500
destruction, and impose,
Suffering on innumerable beings.
15
00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:07,100
So as to obtain the attention of
Lord, Vishnu and have their
16
00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:09,600
human life ended at the hands of
the god.
17
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,500
They adored Vishnu took birth as
Lord Ram to carry out the wishes
18
00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:18,900
of his devotee and return
rawvana to his rightful place in
19
00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:22,300
heaven.
There was obviously both
20
00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:25,100
tremendous darkness and
tremendous Light Within the
21
00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,700
being that incarnated as
Ravenna.
22
00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:32,300
And the curse of the Russia gave
an opportunity for this Darkness
23
00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:36,900
to be exposed and to get it
resolved rather than simply
24
00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:41,000
suppressed.
We many times in today's world,
25
00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,300
try to assign the labels, good
or evil to various individuals,
26
00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,300
particularly brutal dictators
were those who purposely caused
27
00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,800
enormous suffering for others
for their own
28
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,600
self-aggrandizement.
While they may not all be
29
00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,300
visnu's devotees, who have been
cursed, it is quite likely that
30
00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:05,600
at some point in time.
They're tremendous vital force.
31
00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,000
And in some cases, mental Powers
will turn from selfish.
32
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,500
Pursuits to those that recognize
the Oneness of all existence and
33
00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,200
work to support the creation in
a positive manner.
34
00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,500
And when that time comes their
abilities and the force they
35
00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:27,300
have accumulated Within They're
being will turn the greatest
36
00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:29,600
Darkness into the greatest
light.
37
00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:34,200
This does not, of course, imply
that we should accept or condone
38
00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,400
such actions in any particular
circumstances, even Shriram had
39
00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,900
to undertake a battle to defeat
rawvana.
40
00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,100
Not just allow his, then current
lifetime depredations to endure
41
00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:53,100
forever, nor does it imply that
we should justify to ourselves
42
00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,700
internally.
The idea that we can act like
43
00:02:56,700 --> 00:03:01,800
demons in order to become
enlightened, the mother notes,
44
00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,900
quote, once you have understood
this, many worries come to an
45
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:09,400
end and you are very happy, very
happy.
46
00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:12,900
If one find one has very black
holes.
47
00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,700
One says this shows I can rise
very high if the abyss is very
48
00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:21,400
deep.
I can climb very high.
49
00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:26,000
It is the same from the
universal point of view to use
50
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,600
the Hindu terminology so
familiar to you.
51
00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,300
It is the greatest asuras who
are the greatest beings of light
52
00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:38,200
and the day these asuras are
converted, they will be the
53
00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,900
Supreme Beings of the creation.
This is not do encourage you to
54
00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:46,900
be a Sorak, you know?
But it is like that this will
55
00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,900
widen your minds a little and
help you to free yourself from
56
00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:54,400
those ideas of opposing.
An evil for if you abide in that
57
00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,500
category, there is no hope and
quote.
58
00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:04,400
Reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother living within the yoga
59
00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,200
approach to psychological health
and growth exercises for growth
60
00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,900
and Mastery becoming aware of
the Shadow Pages 139 to 143.
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