July 31, 2024
The Concrete Reality of Spiritual Force and Its Action
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YouTube reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch.7 Spiritual Forces of Help and Succour, pg.165 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/07/26/the-concrete-reality-of-spiritual-force-and-its-action/
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There is a clear divide between
those who have actually
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00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,880
experienced the action of
spiritual or yoga force and
3
00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,240
those who have a mental
conception of spirituality but
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00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,640
have not had a strong experience
thus far that makes the theory
5
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,360
into something real and actual
for them.
6
00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:24,480
Once the experience is there, it
is impossible to deny its
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00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,680
authenticity or power, and it is
no longer a subject of internal
8
00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,240
debate as to whether it is real.
Many people report experiences
9
00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,840
that include the rising up of an
energy from the basis of the
10
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,000
spine area through the crown of
the head and the illumination
11
00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,520
and insight that occurs when
that experience takes hold.
12
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,480
Similarly, many report the
sensation of a drilling force
13
00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:56,040
from above through the skull
that brings changes to the
14
00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,880
mental view, the expression of
willpower, emotional reaction,
15
00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,680
vital response, and even brings
physical changes with it.
16
00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:10,960
Long experience documented in
yoga scriptures down through the
17
00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:15,320
ages describe the need to
prepare the body for the advent
18
00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:20,320
of the yoga force and the risks
and downsides of bringing into
19
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:26,000
that power without a solid basis
to hold it and not either spill
20
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,160
it or become imbalanced as
result of its advent.
21
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,640
Large numbers of people have
experienced the power of a
22
00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480
location that is filled with
devotional force.
23
00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,400
A researcher actually documented
the difference between stones
24
00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,280
that had been long in a
particular temple and absorb the
25
00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:51,320
energy there, and similar stones
that were not kept in a place
26
00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160
that was considered devotional
and where long years of prayer
27
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,880
had not taken place.
Curlean photography of the
28
00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,560
stones showed a distinct strong
aura radiating from the stones
29
00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,160
that came from the shrine, while
there was no discernible
30
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,120
radiation of force from the non
immersed stones.
31
00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,840
This tends to support the idea
that certain invisible forces
32
00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,560
operative on the spiritual level
can actually be captured and
33
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,240
stored in physical matter.
Certainly, if one looks at the
34
00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,600
stories told of great rishis,
Saints, gurus, seers, shaman and
35
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,200
yogi's down through the ages,
there is a clear pattern of an
36
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,720
active spiritual force that can
impact lives and even physical
37
00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,360
health and Wellness.
In the book Called To Heal, the
38
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,040
author recounts a story of an
individual in Africa who came
39
00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,960
from a background of traditional
healing, but who tried to avoid
40
00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,120
taking that path, preferring to
have a career outside the
41
00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,120
healing field.
She experienced endless numbers
42
00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,960
of life and health crises and
eventually was advised that
43
00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,040
until she took up her destined
healing path, she would not
44
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,240
succeed and her health would be
at risk.
45
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440
When she accepted her destined
role, her life became one of
46
00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,400
growth and joy.
Some occult force was working
47
00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,880
within her life to move her
toward a destined role as a
48
00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,960
traditional healer, Shrioro
Bindo writes.
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Quote concrete.
What do you mean by concrete?
50
00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720
Spiritual force has its own
concreteness.
51
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440
It can take a form, like a
stream for instance, of which
52
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,440
one is aware and can send it
quite concretely on whatever
53
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,560
object one chooses.
This is a statement of fact
54
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600
about the power inherent in
spiritual consciousness.
55
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,920
But there is also such a thing
as a willed use of any subtle
56
00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,320
force.
It may be spiritual, mental, or
57
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,760
vital to secure a particular
result at some point in the
58
00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,880
world.
Just as there are waves of
59
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,160
unseen physical forces, cosmic
waves, et cetera, or currents of
60
00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,720
electricity, so there are mind
waves, thought currents, waves
61
00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,240
of emotion, for example, anger,
sorrow, et cetera, which go out
62
00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,080
and affect others without their
knowing whence they come, or
63
00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,280
that they come at all.
They only feel the result.
64
00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,440
One who has the occult or inner
senses awake can feel them
65
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,400
coming and invading him.
Influences, good or bad, can
66
00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,520
propagate themselves in that
way.
67
00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,640
That can happen without
intention and naturally, but
68
00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,480
also a deliberate use can be
made of them.
69
00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,200
There can also be a purposeful
generation of force, spiritual
70
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,720
or other.
There can be, too, the use of
71
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,720
the effective will or idea,
acting directly, without the aid
72
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,600
of any outward action, speech,
or other instrumentation which
73
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,360
is not concrete in that sense,
but is all the same effective.
74
00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,480
These things are not
imaginations or delusions or
75
00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,680
humbug, but true phenomena.
End Quote.
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00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,720
Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother, The Hidden forces of
77
00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,880
Life, Chapter 7.
Spiritual Forces of Help and
78
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520
Succor, page 165.
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,800
There is a clear divide between
those who have actually
2
00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,880
experienced the action of
spiritual or yoga force and
3
00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,240
those who have a mental
conception of spirituality but
4
00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,640
have not had a strong experience
thus far that makes the theory
5
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,360
into something real and actual
for them.
6
00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:24,480
Once the experience is there, it
is impossible to deny its
7
00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,680
authenticity or power, and it is
no longer a subject of internal
8
00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,240
debate as to whether it is real.
Many people report experiences
9
00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,840
that include the rising up of an
energy from the basis of the
10
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,000
spine area through the crown of
the head and the illumination
11
00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,520
and insight that occurs when
that experience takes hold.
12
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,480
Similarly, many report the
sensation of a drilling force
13
00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:56,040
from above through the skull
that brings changes to the
14
00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,880
mental view, the expression of
willpower, emotional reaction,
15
00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,680
vital response, and even brings
physical changes with it.
16
00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:10,960
Long experience documented in
yoga scriptures down through the
17
00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:15,320
ages describe the need to
prepare the body for the advent
18
00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:20,320
of the yoga force and the risks
and downsides of bringing into
19
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:26,000
that power without a solid basis
to hold it and not either spill
20
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,160
it or become imbalanced as
result of its advent.
21
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,640
Large numbers of people have
experienced the power of a
22
00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480
location that is filled with
devotional force.
23
00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,400
A researcher actually documented
the difference between stones
24
00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,280
that had been long in a
particular temple and absorb the
25
00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:51,320
energy there, and similar stones
that were not kept in a place
26
00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160
that was considered devotional
and where long years of prayer
27
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,880
had not taken place.
Curlean photography of the
28
00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,560
stones showed a distinct strong
aura radiating from the stones
29
00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,160
that came from the shrine, while
there was no discernible
30
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,120
radiation of force from the non
immersed stones.
31
00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,840
This tends to support the idea
that certain invisible forces
32
00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,560
operative on the spiritual level
can actually be captured and
33
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,240
stored in physical matter.
Certainly, if one looks at the
34
00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,600
stories told of great rishis,
Saints, gurus, seers, shaman and
35
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,200
yogi's down through the ages,
there is a clear pattern of an
36
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,720
active spiritual force that can
impact lives and even physical
37
00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,360
health and Wellness.
In the book Called To Heal, the
38
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,040
author recounts a story of an
individual in Africa who came
39
00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,960
from a background of traditional
healing, but who tried to avoid
40
00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,120
taking that path, preferring to
have a career outside the
41
00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,120
healing field.
She experienced endless numbers
42
00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,960
of life and health crises and
eventually was advised that
43
00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,040
until she took up her destined
healing path, she would not
44
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,240
succeed and her health would be
at risk.
45
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440
When she accepted her destined
role, her life became one of
46
00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,400
growth and joy.
Some occult force was working
47
00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,880
within her life to move her
toward a destined role as a
48
00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,960
traditional healer, Shrioro
Bindo writes.
49
00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,640
Quote concrete.
What do you mean by concrete?
50
00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720
Spiritual force has its own
concreteness.
51
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440
It can take a form, like a
stream for instance, of which
52
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,440
one is aware and can send it
quite concretely on whatever
53
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,560
object one chooses.
This is a statement of fact
54
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600
about the power inherent in
spiritual consciousness.
55
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,920
But there is also such a thing
as a willed use of any subtle
56
00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,320
force.
It may be spiritual, mental, or
57
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,760
vital to secure a particular
result at some point in the
58
00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,880
world.
Just as there are waves of
59
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,160
unseen physical forces, cosmic
waves, et cetera, or currents of
60
00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,720
electricity, so there are mind
waves, thought currents, waves
61
00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,240
of emotion, for example, anger,
sorrow, et cetera, which go out
62
00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,080
and affect others without their
knowing whence they come, or
63
00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,280
that they come at all.
They only feel the result.
64
00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,440
One who has the occult or inner
senses awake can feel them
65
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,400
coming and invading him.
Influences, good or bad, can
66
00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,520
propagate themselves in that
way.
67
00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,640
That can happen without
intention and naturally, but
68
00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,480
also a deliberate use can be
made of them.
69
00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,200
There can also be a purposeful
generation of force, spiritual
70
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,720
or other.
There can be, too, the use of
71
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,720
the effective will or idea,
acting directly, without the aid
72
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,600
of any outward action, speech,
or other instrumentation which
73
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,360
is not concrete in that sense,
but is all the same effective.
74
00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,480
These things are not
imaginations or delusions or
75
00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,680
humbug, but true phenomena.
End Quote.
76
00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,720
Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother, The Hidden forces of
77
00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,880
Life, Chapter 7.
Spiritual Forces of Help and
78
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520
Succor, page 165.