Dec. 24, 2022
The Complementary Aspects of Aspiration and Prayer
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2022/12/22/the-complementary-aspects-of-aspiration-and-prayer/
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Just as there is a debate
between science and religion,
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there is a corollary argument
that encompasses aspiration
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versus prayer.
Aspiration for growth
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development, knowledge progress,
expansion is acceptable to those
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in the science camp.
Prayer is relegated by these
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individuals to the religion
Camp.
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Similarly, those who believe
ardently in the power of prayer.
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Do not fully believe in the
efficacy of an inner
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aspirational own.
The relation of these two
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Powers.
However, is not so simply
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delineated, nor can either one
be dismissed.
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Out of hand.
They can indeed complement one
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another.
For those who do not believe in
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00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,100
any greater being in the
universe, of course, prayer does
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00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:02,700
not factor into the equation.
For those already accepting such
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00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:08,800
a greater being Creator or God
prayer is central for the vast
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00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,500
majority of people, however, who
are somewhere between these two
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extremes.
Another Viewpoint can harmonize
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them aspiration can be seen as
the directing force and impetus
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for the growth and development
of the individuals powers and
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the expansion of the individuals
basis of knowledge.
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Prayer can be seen as the outer
body providing concrete form in
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the external existence to what
the aspiration is developing
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inwardly.
The artist, the writer, the
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composer all developed their
Concepts inwardly, but Express
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them in the world to impact
others and have their influence
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in the world through the outer
form, they give to these
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Concepts.
Similarly prayer provides such
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00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,600
an outer framework to embody the
aspiration and bring it to life
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00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,900
in the world.
The mother notes quote.
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So the more intellectual people
admit aspiration and say, that
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prayer is something inferior.
The mystics tell you, that
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aspiration is all very well, but
if you want to be really heard
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and want the Divine to listen to
you, you must pray and pray with
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the Simplicity of a child, a
perfect Candor, that is a
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perfect Trust.
I need this or that whether it
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be a moral need, or a physical,
or material need.
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Well, I asked you for it.
Give it to me to Aspire.
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It is not necessary to direct
the aspiration to someone
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towards.
Someone one has an aspiration
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00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,700
for a certain state of being,
for knowledge for a realization
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that State of Consciousness, one
aspires for something, but it is
43
00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,500
not necessarily A Prayer.
Prayer is something additional
44
00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:13,400
and quote reference SRI
aurobindo and the mother growing
45
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,100
within the psychology of inner
development.
46
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,600
Chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
47
00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:22,800
pages, 37 to 38,
00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,000
Just as there is a debate
between science and religion,
2
00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:10,200
there is a corollary argument
that encompasses aspiration
3
00:00:10,300 --> 00:00:14,300
versus prayer.
Aspiration for growth
4
00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:21,400
development, knowledge progress,
expansion is acceptable to those
5
00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,500
in the science camp.
Prayer is relegated by these
6
00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:27,500
individuals to the religion
Camp.
7
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,900
Similarly, those who believe
ardently in the power of prayer.
8
00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,400
Do not fully believe in the
efficacy of an inner
9
00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,100
aspirational own.
The relation of these two
10
00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:43,100
Powers.
However, is not so simply
11
00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:47,300
delineated, nor can either one
be dismissed.
12
00:00:47,300 --> 00:00:51,600
Out of hand.
They can indeed complement one
13
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200
another.
For those who do not believe in
14
00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,100
any greater being in the
universe, of course, prayer does
15
00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:02,700
not factor into the equation.
For those already accepting such
16
00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:08,800
a greater being Creator or God
prayer is central for the vast
17
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,500
majority of people, however, who
are somewhere between these two
18
00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,900
extremes.
Another Viewpoint can harmonize
19
00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:21,300
them aspiration can be seen as
the directing force and impetus
20
00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,300
for the growth and development
of the individuals powers and
21
00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:29,500
the expansion of the individuals
basis of knowledge.
22
00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:34,500
Prayer can be seen as the outer
body providing concrete form in
23
00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:39,300
the external existence to what
the aspiration is developing
24
00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:43,300
inwardly.
The artist, the writer, the
25
00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:48,800
composer all developed their
Concepts inwardly, but Express
26
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,100
them in the world to impact
others and have their influence
27
00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:56,400
in the world through the outer
form, they give to these
28
00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,100
Concepts.
Similarly prayer provides such
29
00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,600
an outer framework to embody the
aspiration and bring it to life
30
00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,900
in the world.
The mother notes quote.
31
00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,200
So the more intellectual people
admit aspiration and say, that
32
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,000
prayer is something inferior.
The mystics tell you, that
33
00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,200
aspiration is all very well, but
if you want to be really heard
34
00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,500
and want the Divine to listen to
you, you must pray and pray with
35
00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:33,700
the Simplicity of a child, a
perfect Candor, that is a
36
00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:37,900
perfect Trust.
I need this or that whether it
37
00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:41,000
be a moral need, or a physical,
or material need.
38
00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:45,900
Well, I asked you for it.
Give it to me to Aspire.
39
00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:49,500
It is not necessary to direct
the aspiration to someone
40
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000
towards.
Someone one has an aspiration
41
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,700
for a certain state of being,
for knowledge for a realization
42
00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,200
that State of Consciousness, one
aspires for something, but it is
43
00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,500
not necessarily A Prayer.
Prayer is something additional
44
00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:13,400
and quote reference SRI
aurobindo and the mother growing
45
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,100
within the psychology of inner
development.
46
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,600
Chapter 3 growth of
Consciousness basic requisites
47
00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:22,800
pages, 37 to 38,
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