May 10, 2023
The Case for the Rare Instance of an Ongoing Physical, Vital or Mental Formation Surviving the Death of the Individual
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/05/08/the-case-for-the-rare-instance-of-an-ongoing-physical-vital-or-mental-formation-surviving-the-death-of-the-individual/
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We have no difficulty seeing and
understanding that an individual
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can create a legacy in the
physical world.
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We inhabit.
As we see, the evidence
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everywhere around us in the form
of buildings, Enterprises
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religious movements, mental
development, and
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conceptualization and artistic
Creations, not to speak of the
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children that carry on much of
our physical development and in
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many, Any cases our Enterprises
into future Generations.
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These things continue to exist.
Even when the individual who
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represented the driving force
for their creation has left the
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scene, we have a much more
difficult time however
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appreciating that a highly
developed formation such as a
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mental framework or vital
activity or an advanced physical
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capacity can be.
So solidly formed That they can
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actually survive the normal
process of death and
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dissolution, and continue as
fixed formations on their own
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and potentially adhere
themselves.
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To another individual who has
Affinity with these formations
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It would, of course, taken
extraordinary concentration to
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build a physical vital, or
mental formation.
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That can hold together upon the
death of the body and indeed,
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the separate Direction taken by
the psychic being as it
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continues, its evolutionary
growth in other lifetimes, Such
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a formation need not stay with
the particular psychic entity
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that created it.
But could in theory become
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available to whichever
individual or individuals have
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affinity for it, in terms of
receptivity to the vibration and
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the willingness to receive and
integrate that formation into
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his or their own lives.
It is not impossible to consider
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this as possible.
And there are likely instances
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that can be pointed to, which
seemed to validate this idea.
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This does not represent the
normal case where these
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formations found in an
individual lifetime, will simply
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dissolve quickly or slowly.
As the case may be once the
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framework of the physical body,
which holds them together and
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the psychic being that
formulated them.
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Depart the mother writes quote
in artists, as for instance, in
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certain musicians who have used
their hands in a Particularly
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conscious way, the vital and
mental substance is preserved in
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the form of hands and these
hands remain fully conscious.
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They can even use the body of
living people, if there is a
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special affinity and so on
Otherwise, in ordinary people in
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whom the psychic form is not
fully developed an organized.
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When the psychic leaves the
body, the mental and vital forms
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May persist, for a certain time
if the death has been,
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particularly peaceful and
concentrated.
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But if a man dies suddenly and
in a state of passion with
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numerous attachments, well, the
different parts of the being are
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dispersed.
And live for a shorter or longer
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time, they're on life in their
own domain.
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And then disappear in quote
reference SRI aurobindo in the
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mother growing within the
psychology of inner development.
53
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Chapter 8, the psychic being and
inner growth Majors 158 to 159.
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,600
We have no difficulty seeing and
understanding that an individual
2
00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,800
can create a legacy in the
physical world.
3
00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,600
We inhabit.
As we see, the evidence
4
00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,000
everywhere around us in the form
of buildings, Enterprises
5
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,700
religious movements, mental
development, and
6
00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:26,500
conceptualization and artistic
Creations, not to speak of the
7
00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:30,500
children that carry on much of
our physical development and in
8
00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:35,200
many, Any cases our Enterprises
into future Generations.
9
00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,900
These things continue to exist.
Even when the individual who
10
00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:44,700
represented the driving force
for their creation has left the
11
00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:49,200
scene, we have a much more
difficult time however
12
00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,600
appreciating that a highly
developed formation such as a
13
00:00:53,608 --> 00:00:58,900
mental framework or vital
activity or an advanced physical
14
00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:04,200
capacity can be.
So solidly formed That they can
15
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,900
actually survive the normal
process of death and
16
00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:13,100
dissolution, and continue as
fixed formations on their own
17
00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,000
and potentially adhere
themselves.
18
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,500
To another individual who has
Affinity with these formations
19
00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,700
It would, of course, taken
extraordinary concentration to
20
00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,500
build a physical vital, or
mental formation.
21
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,100
That can hold together upon the
death of the body and indeed,
22
00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,700
the separate Direction taken by
the psychic being as it
23
00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:45,100
continues, its evolutionary
growth in other lifetimes, Such
24
00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:48,800
a formation need not stay with
the particular psychic entity
25
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,300
that created it.
But could in theory become
26
00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:56,700
available to whichever
individual or individuals have
27
00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:01,500
affinity for it, in terms of
receptivity to the vibration and
28
00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:05,700
the willingness to receive and
integrate that formation into
29
00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:11,200
his or their own lives.
It is not impossible to consider
30
00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,700
this as possible.
And there are likely instances
31
00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:20,000
that can be pointed to, which
seemed to validate this idea.
32
00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,400
This does not represent the
normal case where these
33
00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,300
formations found in an
individual lifetime, will simply
34
00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:34,100
dissolve quickly or slowly.
As the case may be once the
35
00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:38,200
framework of the physical body,
which holds them together and
36
00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600
the psychic being that
formulated them.
37
00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:48,400
Depart the mother writes quote
in artists, as for instance, in
38
00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,000
certain musicians who have used
their hands in a Particularly
39
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,800
conscious way, the vital and
mental substance is preserved in
40
00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,100
the form of hands and these
hands remain fully conscious.
41
00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:06,100
They can even use the body of
living people, if there is a
42
00:03:06,108 --> 00:03:12,400
special affinity and so on
Otherwise, in ordinary people in
43
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,300
whom the psychic form is not
fully developed an organized.
44
00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:20,700
When the psychic leaves the
body, the mental and vital forms
45
00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,100
May persist, for a certain time
if the death has been,
46
00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:27,700
particularly peaceful and
concentrated.
47
00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,700
But if a man dies suddenly and
in a state of passion with
48
00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:37,500
numerous attachments, well, the
different parts of the being are
49
00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:41,500
dispersed.
And live for a shorter or longer
50
00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:44,100
time, they're on life in their
own domain.
51
00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:52,100
And then disappear in quote
reference SRI aurobindo in the
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00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:56,700
mother growing within the
psychology of inner development.
53
00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,800
Chapter 8, the psychic being and
inner growth Majors 158 to 159.
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