April 7, 2023
So-Called ‘Spiritual’ Experiences and True Spiritual Development
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/04/05/so-called-spiritual-experiences-and-true-spiritual-development/
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We tend to associate experiences
of various unusual powers as
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either evidence of high mental
development, or perhaps
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Spiritual Development, most of
what gets mooted about, however,
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may be seen as experiences of
entering into various occult,
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vital planes and bringing back
the experience from those Realms
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into the waking where the dream
state of the individual.
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This does not actually require
that.
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The individual be someone with
either extraordinary, mental
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capacities or spiritual opening.
These experiences may be what
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are known commonly as psychic
experiences.
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00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:50,000
Not to be confused with the use
of the term by SRI aurobindo and
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the mother to describe the Soul
Essence or true being other than
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the external ego personality and
may involve things like
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telepathy telekinesis
Clairvoyance out-of-body travel
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psychic.
Crime-solving powers of hypnosis
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As well as things like psychic
readings and past life
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regressions.
Some of these may be real powers
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that manifest for individuals.
While some of it may be either
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fantasy or even fraud intended
to provide an income stream or
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fame to the individual.
And it is obviously not easy to
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sort all of this vital energy
out properly.
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Military units in various
countries.
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Have in fact, invested heavily
in developing teams who could
24
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undertake remote seeing and
other powers.
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That might give them an
advantage over their enemies and
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others are researching things
like entering into an
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individual's dream state and
influencing their waking
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existence, They can come about
in any individual sometimes
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00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,000
without warning and may
represent a born capacity or a
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00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,500
developed capacity to enter
these Realms and bring back
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experiences or transcriptions
from there.
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Obviously, none of those is
actually pertinent to the growth
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of the spiritual personality.
The mother observes quote,
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usually people mean by
experience either altogether,
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extravagant phenomena
levitation, and things like that
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00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000
or else.
Sensational Visions being able
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to see the future or seeing at a
distance or maybe ordinary
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things like, being able to tell
where a lost object can be found
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or all kinds of little tricks
like that, this is what people
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call.
All experiences.
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Well, usually people have these
expect guilties are not well
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educated, but for some reason,
they are born with a gift as
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00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,900
some are born musicians, others
painters and other scientists.
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00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:13,300
These there are born
Clairvoyance and so it may be
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00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,800
when they are in need, they use
this faculty to earn their
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00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,600
living and they spoil it
completely.
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If they happen to be in
comfortable circumstances and do
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not need to earn their living,
then they become famous among
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their friends.
In any case, this is always an
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00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,600
opportunity for a certain kind
of commercialism.
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There are very few who can have
these gifts without using them
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either to make a name for
themselves or to earn money, but
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these gifts are not of a very
high level.
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One can have them without having
a very spiritual life.
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They do not depend at all on an
inner spiritual height.
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One should not mistake them for
signs of progress and quote,
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reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother growing within the
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psychology of inner development.
Chapter 7 growth of
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Consciousness, inner experiences
page 129.
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One can have them without having
a very spiritual life.
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They do not depend at all on an
inner spiritual height.
62
00:03:56,300 --> 00:04:01,500
One should not mistake them for
signs of progress and quote,
63
00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:06,900
reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother growing within the
64
00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:10,300
psychology of inner development.
Chapter 7 growth of
65
00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:14,700
Consciousness, inner experiences
page 129.
00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:07,200
We tend to associate experiences
of various unusual powers as
2
00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,100
either evidence of high mental
development, or perhaps
3
00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:16,800
Spiritual Development, most of
what gets mooted about, however,
4
00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,200
may be seen as experiences of
entering into various occult,
5
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,900
vital planes and bringing back
the experience from those Realms
6
00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,700
into the waking where the dream
state of the individual.
7
00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:33,500
This does not actually require
that.
8
00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:36,800
The individual be someone with
either extraordinary, mental
9
00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,000
capacities or spiritual opening.
These experiences may be what
10
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,600
are known commonly as psychic
experiences.
11
00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:50,000
Not to be confused with the use
of the term by SRI aurobindo and
12
00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,400
the mother to describe the Soul
Essence or true being other than
13
00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,000
the external ego personality and
may involve things like
14
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,300
telepathy telekinesis
Clairvoyance out-of-body travel
15
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,900
psychic.
Crime-solving powers of hypnosis
16
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,900
As well as things like psychic
readings and past life
17
00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:16,800
regressions.
Some of these may be real powers
18
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,000
that manifest for individuals.
While some of it may be either
19
00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,400
fantasy or even fraud intended
to provide an income stream or
20
00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,100
fame to the individual.
And it is obviously not easy to
21
00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,900
sort all of this vital energy
out properly.
22
00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,400
Military units in various
countries.
23
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,400
Have in fact, invested heavily
in developing teams who could
24
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,800
undertake remote seeing and
other powers.
25
00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,600
That might give them an
advantage over their enemies and
26
00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,300
others are researching things
like entering into an
27
00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:55,900
individual's dream state and
influencing their waking
28
00:01:55,900 --> 00:02:01,000
existence, They can come about
in any individual sometimes
29
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,000
without warning and may
represent a born capacity or a
30
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,500
developed capacity to enter
these Realms and bring back
31
00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:13,700
experiences or transcriptions
from there.
32
00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:19,900
Obviously, none of those is
actually pertinent to the growth
33
00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:25,000
of the spiritual personality.
The mother observes quote,
34
00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,600
usually people mean by
experience either altogether,
35
00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,000
extravagant phenomena
levitation, and things like that
36
00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000
or else.
Sensational Visions being able
37
00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,800
to see the future or seeing at a
distance or maybe ordinary
38
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,800
things like, being able to tell
where a lost object can be found
39
00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:51,400
or all kinds of little tricks
like that, this is what people
40
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,300
call.
All experiences.
41
00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,300
Well, usually people have these
expect guilties are not well
42
00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:04,000
educated, but for some reason,
they are born with a gift as
43
00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,900
some are born musicians, others
painters and other scientists.
44
00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:13,300
These there are born
Clairvoyance and so it may be
45
00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,800
when they are in need, they use
this faculty to earn their
46
00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,600
living and they spoil it
completely.
47
00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:24,300
If they happen to be in
comfortable circumstances and do
48
00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:28,100
not need to earn their living,
then they become famous among
49
00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:31,800
their friends.
In any case, this is always an
50
00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,600
opportunity for a certain kind
of commercialism.
51
00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200
There are very few who can have
these gifts without using them
52
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,900
either to make a name for
themselves or to earn money, but
53
00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,400
these gifts are not of a very
high level.
54
00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:51,200
One can have them without having
a very spiritual life.
55
00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:55,800
They do not depend at all on an
inner spiritual height.
56
00:03:56,300 --> 00:04:01,500
One should not mistake them for
signs of progress and quote,
57
00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:06,900
reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother growing within the
58
00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:10,300
psychology of inner development.
Chapter 7 growth of
59
00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:14,700
Consciousness, inner experiences
page 129.
60
00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:51,200
One can have them without having
a very spiritual life.
61
00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:55,800
They do not depend at all on an
inner spiritual height.
62
00:03:56,300 --> 00:04:01,500
One should not mistake them for
signs of progress and quote,
63
00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:06,900
reference SRI aurobindo and the
mother growing within the
64
00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:10,300
psychology of inner development.
Chapter 7 growth of
65
00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:14,700
Consciousness, inner experiences
page 129.
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