April 10, 2023
Recognizing and Understanding Spiritual Experiences
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/04/08/recognizing-and-understanding-spiritual-experiences/
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When we live primarily on the
external surface of our being
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anchored, to the physical world,
the vital energy, and mental
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status of living in the world.
We try to judge everything that
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occurs within us by the
standards of what we expect and
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understand from our outward
existence experience and
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education.
We tend to put a primary focus
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on things that are palpable.
Oh, that appear to our outer
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senses as real and substantial
and that our mind can grasp in
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its ordinary way of seeing
things. naturally as spiritual
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experiences arise from an
entirely different order of our
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reality and are based in a
different View and understanding
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of the nature of reality, we
find a mismatch between what our
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external being seized and what
may actually be taking place in
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the depths of our being Unless
we can suspend judgement by the
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outer mind.
We tend to either dismiss or
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undervalue the spiritual
experience and thus may very
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well be making progress, but
fail to recognize it as such the
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essential Point here is that the
Mind cannot judge things that
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are Beyond its frame of
reference and must learn to
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know.
And grasp, the spiritual
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experience with a Achoo Outlook
vision and standpoint SRI
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aurobindo observes quote, you
speak of your experiences as
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vague and dreamlike in the first
place.
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The scorn of small experiences
in the inner life is no part of
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wisdom reason or common sense.
It is in the beginning of the
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sadhna and for a long time the
small experiences that come on
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each other and if given their
full value.
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Prepare the field build up a
preparatory Consciousness and
29
00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:15,700
one day break, open the walls to
Big experiences but if you
30
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despise them with the ambitious
idea, that you must have either
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the big experiences or nothing,
it is not surprising that they
32
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come once in a blue moon and
cannot do their work.
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Moreover, all your experiences
were not small.
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There were some like The
stilling Descent of a power, and
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the body, what you used to call
numbness, which anyone with
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spiritual knowledge would have
recognized as a first strong
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step towards the opening of the
Consciousness, to the higher,
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peace and light.
But it was not in the line of
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your expectations and you gave
it, no special value.
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As for vague and dream like you
feel it?
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So because you are looking at
them and at everything that
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00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:08,400
happens in you from the
standpoint of the outward,
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physical mind and intellect,
which can take only physical
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things, as real, and important,
and Vivid and to it inward
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phenomena are something unreal,
vague and truthless The
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spiritual experience does not
even despise dreams and Visions.
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It is known to it that many of
these things are not dreams at
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all, but experiences on an inner
plane and if the experiences of
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00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,300
the inner planes which lead to
the opening of the inner self
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into the outer.
So as to influence and change,
51
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it are not accepted the
experiences of the subtle
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Consciousness and the trance
consciousness. how is the
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weekend Consciousness to expand
out of the narrow prison of the
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body and body mind and the
senses For to the physical mind,
55
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Untouched by the inner awakened
Consciousness, even the
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experience of the cosmic
Consciousness, or the Eternal
57
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self, might very well seem
merely subjective and
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unconvincing.
It would think curious, no
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doubt, rather interesting, but
very subjective.
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Don't you think hallucinations?
Yes.
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The first business of the
spiritual secrets to get away
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from the outward mines Outlook
and to look at inward Phenomenon
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with an inward mind to which
they soon become powerful and
64
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stimulating realities.
If one does that, then one
65
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begins to see that there is here
a wide field of Truth and
66
00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,900
knowledge in which one can move
from Discovery to Discovery to
67
00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:59,800
reach the Supreme discovery of
all. and quote, reference SRI
68
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aurobindo on the mother growing
within the psychology of inner
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00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,700
development, chapter 7, growth
of Consciousness, inner
70
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experiences Pages, 132 to 133,
00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:05,600
When we live primarily on the
external surface of our being
2
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,800
anchored, to the physical world,
the vital energy, and mental
3
00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,400
status of living in the world.
We try to judge everything that
4
00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,000
occurs within us by the
standards of what we expect and
5
00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,400
understand from our outward
existence experience and
6
00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,500
education.
We tend to put a primary focus
7
00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:32,000
on things that are palpable.
Oh, that appear to our outer
8
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,500
senses as real and substantial
and that our mind can grasp in
9
00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:43,300
its ordinary way of seeing
things. naturally as spiritual
10
00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:46,900
experiences arise from an
entirely different order of our
11
00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:51,200
reality and are based in a
different View and understanding
12
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,400
of the nature of reality, we
find a mismatch between what our
13
00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,000
external being seized and what
may actually be taking place in
14
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,000
the depths of our being Unless
we can suspend judgement by the
15
00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,900
outer mind.
We tend to either dismiss or
16
00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:16,300
undervalue the spiritual
experience and thus may very
17
00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:21,400
well be making progress, but
fail to recognize it as such the
18
00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,800
essential Point here is that the
Mind cannot judge things that
19
00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,600
are Beyond its frame of
reference and must learn to
20
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000
know.
And grasp, the spiritual
21
00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:39,600
experience with a Achoo Outlook
vision and standpoint SRI
22
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,200
aurobindo observes quote, you
speak of your experiences as
23
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,100
vague and dreamlike in the first
place.
24
00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:50,900
The scorn of small experiences
in the inner life is no part of
25
00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:55,900
wisdom reason or common sense.
It is in the beginning of the
26
00:01:55,900 --> 00:02:00,900
sadhna and for a long time the
small experiences that come on
27
00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:04,100
each other and if given their
full value.
28
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,199
Prepare the field build up a
preparatory Consciousness and
29
00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:15,700
one day break, open the walls to
Big experiences but if you
30
00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:19,900
despise them with the ambitious
idea, that you must have either
31
00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:25,000
the big experiences or nothing,
it is not surprising that they
32
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200
come once in a blue moon and
cannot do their work.
33
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,700
Moreover, all your experiences
were not small.
34
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,700
There were some like The
stilling Descent of a power, and
35
00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:41,800
the body, what you used to call
numbness, which anyone with
36
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,800
spiritual knowledge would have
recognized as a first strong
37
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,700
step towards the opening of the
Consciousness, to the higher,
38
00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:53,500
peace and light.
But it was not in the line of
39
00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,700
your expectations and you gave
it, no special value.
40
00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,600
As for vague and dream like you
feel it?
41
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,700
So because you are looking at
them and at everything that
42
00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:08,400
happens in you from the
standpoint of the outward,
43
00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,400
physical mind and intellect,
which can take only physical
44
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,400
things, as real, and important,
and Vivid and to it inward
45
00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,600
phenomena are something unreal,
vague and truthless The
46
00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,700
spiritual experience does not
even despise dreams and Visions.
47
00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:31,000
It is known to it that many of
these things are not dreams at
48
00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,000
all, but experiences on an inner
plane and if the experiences of
49
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,300
the inner planes which lead to
the opening of the inner self
50
00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:43,900
into the outer.
So as to influence and change,
51
00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:47,800
it are not accepted the
experiences of the subtle
52
00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,100
Consciousness and the trance
consciousness. how is the
53
00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:55,600
weekend Consciousness to expand
out of the narrow prison of the
54
00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:02,100
body and body mind and the
senses For to the physical mind,
55
00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:06,900
Untouched by the inner awakened
Consciousness, even the
56
00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:11,100
experience of the cosmic
Consciousness, or the Eternal
57
00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:15,300
self, might very well seem
merely subjective and
58
00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:19,800
unconvincing.
It would think curious, no
59
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,800
doubt, rather interesting, but
very subjective.
60
00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,900
Don't you think hallucinations?
Yes.
61
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,600
The first business of the
spiritual secrets to get away
62
00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,100
from the outward mines Outlook
and to look at inward Phenomenon
63
00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:39,300
with an inward mind to which
they soon become powerful and
64
00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:44,000
stimulating realities.
If one does that, then one
65
00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,400
begins to see that there is here
a wide field of Truth and
66
00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,900
knowledge in which one can move
from Discovery to Discovery to
67
00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:59,800
reach the Supreme discovery of
all. and quote, reference SRI
68
00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,200
aurobindo on the mother growing
within the psychology of inner
69
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,700
development, chapter 7, growth
of Consciousness, inner
70
00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:13,000
experiences Pages, 132 to 133,
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