Jan. 25, 2023
Purity from the Moral Standpoint or the Spiritual Standpoint
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/01/23/purity-from-the-moral-standpoint-or-the-spiritual-standpoint/
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In the bhagavad-gita Arjuna
poses, the question to Shri
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00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,600
Krishna as to how to identify
the realized Soul asking, how
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00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,100
does he act, how does he speak
Etc?
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00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:19,900
Shri Krishna responds, that it
is not true outer action.
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00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,000
That one can identify the
liberated individual, as this is
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something that can only be
understood from the inner state
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of consciousness of that.
Vidual.
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00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:36,800
Some people follow the moral
precepts of their society or
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00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,800
their religion in an exemplary
fashion yet inwardly, they may
10
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,700
be in a state of turmoil Under
Pressure perhaps even lusting
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00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,400
after things that they do not
show outwardly.
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00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:55,400
They are considered moral and
leading lights of society yet
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00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,600
from the spiritual standpoint,
they are struggling and unready
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00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,600
for the deeper realization
Asians, there may be others who
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00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,100
outwardly seem to be lacking in
the correct moral standpoint at
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00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:11,200
least within the framework of
the social order with, in which
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they live.
But who are free inwardly and
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hold, a deep sense of spiritual
purpose, these individuals will
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00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:24,800
still be working out the
challenges they face, but they
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00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,700
do it with an orientation and
focus possibly absent from the
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00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:34,400
individual who strictly observes
the outer forms, while not
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solving the inner obstacles that
arise.
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00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:44,100
The mother observes quote.
For example, if you take your
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stand on a moral Viewpoint which
is itself altogether wrong from
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the spiritual point of view.
There are people who apparently
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lead in all together perfectly
moral life, who conform to all
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the social laws, all the
Customs, the moral conventions
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00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,700
and where a mass of impurity
from the spiritual point of view
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00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:08,900
these beings are profoundly
impure.
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00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:14,400
Or on the other hand, there are
some poor people who do things,
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00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,100
who are born.
For instance with a sense of
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00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:21,700
freedom and do things, which are
not considered, very respectable
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00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,200
from the social or moral point
of view.
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And who can be in a state of
inner aspiration and inner
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sincerity, which makes them
infinitely pure than others.
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00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:37,900
This is one of the big
difficulties as soon as one
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speaks of these things there.
Arises the deformation produced
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in the Consciousness, by all the
social and moral conventions.
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00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,300
The soon as you speak of Purity,
immoral Monument comes in front
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00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,700
of you, which completely
falsifies your notion.
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00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,700
And note that it is infinitely
easier to be moral from the
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00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:04,200
social point of view than to be
moral from the spiritual point
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00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600
of view to be moral from the
social Viewpoint.
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00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,600
One has only to pay good
attention to do nothing which is
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00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,800
not approved of by others.
This may be somewhat difficult
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00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:22,600
but still it is not impossible
and one may be, as I said a
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monument of insincerity and
impurities.
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While doing this, whereas to be
pure from the spiritual point of
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00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,700
view means of vigilance a
Consciousness.
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00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:40,800
The sincerity that stand all
tests and quote, reference SRI,
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00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,500
aurobindo, and the mother
growing within the psychology of
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00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:48,400
inner development, chapter for
growth of Consciousness, first
53
00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,700
steps and Foundation Pages 65 to
66,
00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:05,800
In the bhagavad-gita Arjuna
poses, the question to Shri
2
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,600
Krishna as to how to identify
the realized Soul asking, how
3
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,100
does he act, how does he speak
Etc?
4
00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:19,900
Shri Krishna responds, that it
is not true outer action.
5
00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,000
That one can identify the
liberated individual, as this is
6
00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000
something that can only be
understood from the inner state
7
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,300
of consciousness of that.
Vidual.
8
00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:36,800
Some people follow the moral
precepts of their society or
9
00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,800
their religion in an exemplary
fashion yet inwardly, they may
10
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,700
be in a state of turmoil Under
Pressure perhaps even lusting
11
00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,400
after things that they do not
show outwardly.
12
00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:55,400
They are considered moral and
leading lights of society yet
13
00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,600
from the spiritual standpoint,
they are struggling and unready
14
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,600
for the deeper realization
Asians, there may be others who
15
00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,100
outwardly seem to be lacking in
the correct moral standpoint at
16
00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:11,200
least within the framework of
the social order with, in which
17
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,300
they live.
But who are free inwardly and
18
00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:20,900
hold, a deep sense of spiritual
purpose, these individuals will
19
00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:24,800
still be working out the
challenges they face, but they
20
00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,700
do it with an orientation and
focus possibly absent from the
21
00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:34,400
individual who strictly observes
the outer forms, while not
22
00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,500
solving the inner obstacles that
arise.
23
00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:44,100
The mother observes quote.
For example, if you take your
24
00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:48,700
stand on a moral Viewpoint which
is itself altogether wrong from
25
00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:52,800
the spiritual point of view.
There are people who apparently
26
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,500
lead in all together perfectly
moral life, who conform to all
27
00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:02,100
the social laws, all the
Customs, the moral conventions
28
00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,700
and where a mass of impurity
from the spiritual point of view
29
00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:08,900
these beings are profoundly
impure.
30
00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:14,400
Or on the other hand, there are
some poor people who do things,
31
00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,100
who are born.
For instance with a sense of
32
00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:21,700
freedom and do things, which are
not considered, very respectable
33
00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,200
from the social or moral point
of view.
34
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,800
And who can be in a state of
inner aspiration and inner
35
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,300
sincerity, which makes them
infinitely pure than others.
36
00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:37,900
This is one of the big
difficulties as soon as one
37
00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:42,400
speaks of these things there.
Arises the deformation produced
38
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,000
in the Consciousness, by all the
social and moral conventions.
39
00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,300
The soon as you speak of Purity,
immoral Monument comes in front
40
00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,700
of you, which completely
falsifies your notion.
41
00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,700
And note that it is infinitely
easier to be moral from the
42
00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:04,200
social point of view than to be
moral from the spiritual point
43
00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600
of view to be moral from the
social Viewpoint.
44
00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,600
One has only to pay good
attention to do nothing which is
45
00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,800
not approved of by others.
This may be somewhat difficult
46
00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:22,600
but still it is not impossible
and one may be, as I said a
47
00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200
monument of insincerity and
impurities.
48
00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:30,400
While doing this, whereas to be
pure from the spiritual point of
49
00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,700
view means of vigilance a
Consciousness.
50
00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:40,800
The sincerity that stand all
tests and quote, reference SRI,
51
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,500
aurobindo, and the mother
growing within the psychology of
52
00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:48,400
inner development, chapter for
growth of Consciousness, first
53
00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,700
steps and Foundation Pages 65 to
66,
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