Practical Applications for Solving the Existential Crisis of Humanity Through the Evolution of Consciousness

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Not on the cloud.
OK, I guess we're ready to get

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started.
Yes, we are.

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We are.
So good morning, everyone.

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Once again, welcome to the
Cultural Integration Fellowship.

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We were founded in 1951 by
Doctor Haridas and Beena

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Choudhury as a center of
universal religion and spiritual

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practice, and in keeping with
the spirit of unity and

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diversity, we honour the
spiritual traditions of diverse

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cultures and religions.
Today's topic of the talk is

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practical applications for
solving the existential crisis

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of humanity, the evolution of
consciousness, and we are

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delighted to have Santosh
Krinsky giving this talk.

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Santosh has a long relationship
with the Cultural Integration

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Fellowship.
He was familiar to both Doctor

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Haydash Chaudhary and Beena
Chaudhary, and it was through my

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conversations with Beena that I
came to know about Santosh.

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Santosh has been studying Shira
Bindo's writing since 1971 and

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has a daily blog at Shira Bindo
Studies dot worldpress.com and

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podcast at anchor dot FM forward
slash Santosh Dash Krinsky.

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He's the author of 16 books and
his editor in chief at Lotus

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Press.
He is president of the Institute

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for Holistic Education, a non
profit focused on integrating

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spirituality into daily life.
He has spent more than 48 years

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building and developing
infrastructure for publishing,

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distributing and educating about
the spiritual part of Shore

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Window, as well as developing
and guiding companies at the

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forefront of publishing books
and distributing books and

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products to support the natural
market as well as the

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metaphysical market in North
America.

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Now, before I hand over the
screen to Santosh, I would like

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to read a poem from Doctor
Haydash Choudhury.

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It's a short poem, but a
beautiful one, and this is from

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the collection.
Once again, the rhythm of truth.

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My name is Wisdom, O the supreme
mystery, unfathomable in

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essence.
Thou art visible only to the

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souls inward eye, for thy name
is wisdom.

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Thou art Wisdom in social
development, wisdom in cultural

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unfoldment, Wisdom that forgives
the hand that crucifies, Wisdom

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that tolerates the tongue that
vilifies, Wisdom that reveals

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the grandeur of truth.
Wisdom that teaches the unity of

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all beings, Wisdom that fights
universal freedom to win, Wisdom

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that sees pervading all
existence one all fulfilling

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spiritual essence.
Let's take a moment of silence

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to dwell on those beautiful
words.

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I welcome Kosh Krinsky back to
the fellowship once again.

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Thank you.
Thank you.

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Agreeing to give the talk,
Santosh over to you.

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Welcome to everybody.
A couple of points real quick.

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We've got a lot of ground to
cover this morning, so I'm

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hoping if you have any questions
or notes or anything you want to

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make, please mark them down and
we'll cover them towards the

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end.
And in the meantime, we're going

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to roll through this stuff here
because there's a lot of

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content.
So the topic solving the

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existential crisis of humanity
through the evolution of

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consciousness needs a little bit
of parsing because people don't

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always recognize what is this
existential crisis.

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You know, we talk about, oh,
there's climate change and

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there's various problems that
are coming up and people are

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fighting with each other, but we
don't really put it all together

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as an interrelated complex of
symptoms of a larger issue that

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we're trying to deal with here.
Climate change is basically not

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just global warming, but it's
the impacts that take place with

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global warming.
You have as we see, we see the

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forest fires, we see the
increased intensity of the

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storms, we see droughts, we see
floods.

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But what we're not recognizing
is that the glacier melt that's

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taking place in Greenland and
elsewhere is driving a lot of

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very cold freshwater into the
oceans and changing the salinity

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of the oceans with potentially
catastrophic impacts.

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We're not seeing that this same
process is destroying the coral

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reefs, which are the incubators
of the food chain in the ocean,

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if you will.
And we don't see that the fresh

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water supply of the earth is
dwindling dramatically and that

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places like Lake Mead are drying
out.

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The Colorado River, another
major source of water for the

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western US, is a drying up.
And there are serious

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implications of every one of
these changes that lead to the

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pressures that bring upon us,
war, drought, famine, pandemics,

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mass migrations, people fighting
over basic resources.

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So all of these things, they're,
they're not separated symptoms.

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They're actually part of a
complex of the disease which I

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call the evolutionary crisis of
humanity.

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According to scientists, we're
in the midst of what we call the

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sixth major planetary die off.
They're calling it the Holocene

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die off 'cause we're in the
Holocene error.

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And basically they're saying
that the species die off that's

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taking place today is 100 to
1000 times the background rate

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of species die off that takes
place on the planet.

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Sort of naturally.
This is at a level that equates

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to the time of the destruction
of the dinosaurs when the

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asteroid hit and there was a
global winter, you know, for

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many, many, many years.
And we're in the midst of that

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process right now.
What people don't recognize is

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that part of this includes the
die off of the pollinators.

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We hear about the many species
of bees that are disappearing,

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and basically all of our fruits
and vegetables depend on

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pollinators.
Now let's say this.

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The mental approach of our
scientists and engineers is

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working hard to solve that one.
They're designing little

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miniature drone bees to
pollinate things so that when

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there are no real bees around
anymore, we'll have these

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buzzing little drones flying
around pollinating things.

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Great illustration of the mental
approach to solving our

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problems, but it doesn't get to
the root of the issue.

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We have an imbalance in access
to resources.

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Our economic and political
systems are based in the mental

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consciousness, and everybody has
their own ideas.

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The religions, the philosophies,
the political systems, the

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economic systems, everybody has
their own sense of what it is it

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takes to solve our problems.
And unfortunately, they all

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disagree with each other and
therefore we wind up with what

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we see today in the world, which
is political gridlock and

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controlled by certain
individuals of mass amounts of

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resources without the ability to
distribute them equitably across

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the planet, which accentuates
the pain, the suffering, the

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anger, the disruption and the
wars, the fighting and the

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migrations that take place.
Albert Einstein had an

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interesting statement that I
always like to remind people of,

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and that's that he said we
cannot solve our problems with

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the same thinking we used when
we created them.

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And so the existential crisis
that we're facing cannot be

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solved with the kind of
political and economic and

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societal solutions that the mind
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And that's why we have the the
gridlock that we face today,

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because nobody has an answer at
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Mental solutions have not worked
and will not work.

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We need a new paradigm.
It's at this point that Shrioro

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Bindo comes into the picture.
And I have to say, back in 1971,

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when I first came across three
oral windows, The Life Divine, I

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was struck by how prescient and
how clear his view of the

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process of what I would call the
evolution of consciousness, or

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what he calls the evolution of
consciousness was.

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If you look at evolution, Well,
let let's step back one, one

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step.
The crisis we're facing today is

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not an impossible challenge.
It may seem impossible if you

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really spend time focusing on
all the things I just mentioned,

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you'd say, how are we going to
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Some people want to just go to
Mars and abandoned the the, the

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world.
Other people just hope that

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somehow big tech is going to
solve all these problems and

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we're going to come out of it.
But it's actually part of a

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deeper process of nature.
Nature creates a major crisis

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for us to be able to thereby or
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thereby make the next
evolutionary leap.

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When we are happy, satisfied,
contented, everything going

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fine, we don't make the efforts
to change things.

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And as a result, we need and we
see in humanity's history, we

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need a major crisis to focus our
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And so nature presents this
crisis to us and that gives us

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the energy to move to the next
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If we look at the evolution of
forms and we go back to Darwin

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and he said, oh, there's an
evolution of forms and the

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different beings evolve one from
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He got the mechanism pretty much
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What he didn't get to was the
underlying impetus, the impulse

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that creates the evolution of
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What is it that drives us from
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And that is where Shiro Bindo
comes in, by pointing out that

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behind the evolution of forms is
an evolution of consciousness.

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You see, if you go back billions
of years, you see purely

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material forms, you see rocks,
you see magma, you see volcanic

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action, you see possibly solar
energy and water and air.

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And that's about it.
You don't see any living forms

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there.
Somewhere, somehow, a

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consciousness existed, was
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And that consciousness, when the
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forms were ready to accept it,
could bring forth life.

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Now, Not every bit of matter is
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You can sit on and hibernate
with a rock, a piece of granite,

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or a piece of volcanic magma for
a billion years, and you're

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never going to wind up with a
living being coming out of it.

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That's not how it works.
What happens is that as the

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material substance subtleizes,
gets prepared to carry the spark

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of life in those parts of
matter, life begins to evolve.

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We see the development of
metals, we see the develop

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development of crystals, and
then we see the development of

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material forms that can actually
hold the life energy, at which

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point life evolves.
Similarly, if we move forward,

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we see that you go from the one
celled plants and the animals to

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very rudimentary forms that have
very rudimentary mental process.

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Eventually the mental process
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When the forms are ready to hold
them, they evolve.

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But they were involved there and
and we see that now with our

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understanding of genetics and
the function of DNA that encodes

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what's what and what comes out
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You're not going to get a monkey
out of an acorn, and you're not

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going to get a human being out
of the seed of a plant.

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There's an encoding that takes
place, a consciousness that is

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involved that permits that
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The evolution of consciousness
is not completed.

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And Trior Bindo has mentioned
that man as a human is a

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transitional being.
Basically, the mental being that

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we embody in our most ideal form
is basically not the end of

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evolution.
Just as life evolved out of

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matter and mind evolves out of
life.

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He termed the next level of
evolution to be beyond the mind,

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which he called supra mental,
literally beyond the mind.

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It's a new form of consciousness
that is taking birth within the

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crisis of evolution, within the
crisis that we're facing today.

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And, and that is really the the
secret of why we're struggling

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with this.
We start to see the signs of

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this taking place, the
development of new ways of

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looking at things, new ways of
addressing things.

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The mind is extremely linear and
blinkered and focused, and it

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sees one line of approach and
doesn't respond to the

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completeness, the wholeness, the
oneness of its life and its

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environment, its circumstances
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So the Super mental evolution
begins to see things as part of

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a oneness where we take into
account the cradle to grave

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thinking, the symbiotic
relationships.

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You know, people say, oh, we
need to plant trees because

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we're deforesting trees and they
they hold carbon dioxide and

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they create oxygen.
Well, we're actually one being

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with the trees.
We provide the carbon dioxide

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that they need to survive.
And the trees provide the oxygen

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we need to survive.
And, and not just the trees, all

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the plants, actually the single
cell plants in the ocean provide

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more oxygen than trees do.
And we're in the process right

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now of destroying the ocean food
chain and we're seeing the

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collapse of the fisheries taking
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These are these are the
existential crisis we have

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because without the oxygen that
they create and without the food

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chain that they nurture and
supply, humanity is basically

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going to go extinct.
That is that is the nature of

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our challenge.
The Super mental consciousness

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looks at things holistically,
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It sees that all of the
different solutions and all of

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the different viewpoints and all
of the different philosophies

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and all of the different
economic systems and all of the

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different political ideologies
have some grain of the truth

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within them, but not the
entirety.

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And it is time to have a new
view of that.

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And humanity is preparing.
Just as matter was prepared so

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that certain parts of it would
hold life, and life was prepared

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so that certain parts of it
could hold the mental

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consciousness.
We see certain aspects and parts

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of humanity that are developing
in order to hold this new

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paradigm and this new energy.
And people who are motivated to

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try to live a life that brings
in contacts and retunes their

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awareness towards this new
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So looking at that, we turn to
the type of projects that are

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taking place all over the world
that are trying to embody the

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new paradigm we see.
First of all, let's let's look

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at what the mental consciousness
is trying to do because it

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recognizes this problem that
we're facing.

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You look at big tech projects
and they say, well, we need, we

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need energy production, we need
water production.

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We're going to drop an enormous
power plant of $10 billion into

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the middle of some village in
Africa, and that's going to

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solve their problem.
We're going to put in a borewell

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project or water supply project
with a huge water plant and it's

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going to cost 5 or $10 billion
and that'll solve that problem.

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And what they're not seeing is
that these enormous high tech,

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high cost projects do not fit
into the environment within

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which they're being placed.
And so they they find after some

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years that these projects tend
to fail and they don't

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accomplish what they expected
them to accomplish.

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That is essentially a mental
approach to things.

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And it's not sufficient for
where we are today and where we

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need to be.
So what a number of people are

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starting to do is trying to look
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situation.
And we come then to the project

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of Oroville, which has some 55
or 60 projects going in

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different fields in order to
begin to apply a new paradigm to

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many, many different fields of
human endeavor.

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Not that any one of them is
going to solve the problem of

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humanity, but that they can
begin to integrate this new

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comprehensive understanding into
the way we address the issues

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we're facing.
One example is they have a

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reforestation project.
And when they went to do when,

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when the normal mental solution
to reforestation was illustrated

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some years ago in the island of
Haiti, they had they had a big

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hurricane, they lost a lot of
trees.

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They needed to reforest.
And the governments of the world

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decided, OK, we're going to do
that.

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And so they took a lot of tree
seedlings and they dropped them

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from the sky and they got about
a 15% uptake of surviving

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seedlings and declared success.
It just so happens that the

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reforestation project that was
successful in Oroville had an

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experimental team in Haiti and
they did their method of

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reforestation with something on
the order of an 80% success or

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five times the success rate of
trees surviving and thriving to

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the normal process used by the
mental consciousness.

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How did they do it?
What they did when they started

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in Oroville, which was a denuded
plane of eroded land, the first

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thing they did was they said,
well, what is the natural flora

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and fauna in this area of India?
And so they went and sent teams

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around to study local areas of
forest to see what type of

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plants grew there, what the
trees were, what the understory

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was, what the symbiotic
relationships were between the

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plants in a successful, thriving
forest area in that part of the

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world.
After doing that, they begin to

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bring in the right type of
trees, the right type of

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supporting plants.
And if you look at Oroville

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today, it's amazing.
I mean, it's like a an amazing

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forested area that is rich and
lush and beyond what they

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brought in from the natural
surroundings, the other plants

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and the fauna, the animals, the
insect, etcetera that belong in

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that type of area.
That type of forested area

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basically joined of their own to
create a diverse, rich, natural

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thriving forested environment
that is salvaging that eroded

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land and turning it into what
you might call a tropical

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paradise.
So the difference of the two

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approaches in my mind represents
the difference between the

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mental linear blinkered approach
and a more holistic approach

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that looks at the entirety of
the picture, the complete

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relationship of oneness of all
the beings that together make an

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ecosphere.
So in Oroville, they're doing

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research on a number of areas,
not just reforestation, but in

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things like architecture.
The Western approach to global

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warming is, well, crank up the
air conditioning.

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And of course, cranking up the
air conditioning simply makes it

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worse.
You feel better short term, but

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you're using more hydrocarbons
and you're putting more global

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warming into the atmosphere by
doing it.

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So you haven't solved the
problem.

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You've put a Band-Aid over a
symptom and you feel good about

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it.
The approach in Oroville is is

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tremendously different.
They look at it and say, well,

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if we could design buildings
that do not need as much energy

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for heating or cooling, that
could use natural materials and

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natural design elements in order
to optimize human comfort

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without the input of extraneous
energy, we could help to keep

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people more comfortable and at
the same time not further

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contribute to climate change and
global warming.

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And so they've done a number of
these types of experiments with

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architecture and they found they
can use less air conditioning.

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Another experiment is to use
hemp to make hempcrete bricks.

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Now hempcrete is much more
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using concrete.
The Western approach, world

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approach at this point is to use
concrete, which is one of the

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most intensive water and energy
usage industries in the world.

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Hempcrete, On the contrary, is
much more energy friendly and it

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has better survivability, It's
stronger.

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It's also got a better index for
how it moderates and insulates

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energy.
So it's it's a better building

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material, it's more durable and
it costs a lot less in terms of

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loss of water and energy.
So it's a better solution.

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And so they're experimenting
with that.

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I understand they're starting to
work with the concept of 3D

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printing of buildings.
And if they develop that, and

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that's just in its infancy right
now, you take the Hemp Crete and

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you take 3D printing and you can
begin to design buildings using

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these new architectural concepts
that will be truly revolutionary

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and uplifting.
So this is a direction that we

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see there.
The other thing they're looking

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at, for instance, is with the
collapse of the ocean fisheries,

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there's a billion or more people
who are going to be starving on

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this planet, and they're not
going to like that.

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They're going to fight for their
survival.

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They're going to migrate.
And this is happening right now.

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We're overfishing the oceans at
a tremendous rate and we're

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getting these huge trawling Nets
out there and just scooping up

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everything in the ocean.
So in addition to climate change

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destroying the food chain and
the incubation through the coral

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reefs, we're scooping up
everything that's mature and

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less mature in the entire ocean
food chain and basically

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denuding the oceans of the fish.
Well, I'm a vegetarian.

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That doesn't affect me.
I'm actually a vegan.

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So personally, I don't eat fish,
but there are a billion people

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on the planet who do.
It's going to affect things, and

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this isn't going to get solved
unless we change that.

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Well, how do we change that?
We need to find alternative food

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sources and protein sources.
So in Oroville, they're working

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on the idea of developing algae
based foods and soy based foods

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that can hopefully be developed
as alternatives over time to

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help replace the missing food
items for a large segment of

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humanity.
You can see a theme here going

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across each of these projects
and there's some 50 plus

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projects.
One of them is called Ecofem.

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It's basically to help empower
women to play a more direct and

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equal role in society.
Whereas over history, they've

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had a difficulty both with being
the carriers of new birth and

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the reproductive cycle and the
menstrual cycle.

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So Ecofem says instead of
shutting women out, they're

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developing reusable menstrual
pads that are very low cost and

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educating women on how to use
them in places where they

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haven't had it.
So that they can have much more

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involvement in their social
lives in that society then they

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have when they're basically kept
out for 10 days or a third of

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the month, you could say every
month in addition to their

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childbearing period and their
child rearing period.

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So Oroville has so many numerous
projects that it's become a a

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beacon for people who are
interested in solving the

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issues.
Now, let's say this Oroville has

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its own issues because just like
everywhere in the world, there's

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human beings living there, and
the human beings are living

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primarily in their mental
consciousness and they have

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different viewpoints about
things.

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And so they're also being
confronted with the issues of

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human unity at a much more
intense level because they've

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got people from many, many
different cultures, backgrounds,

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educations, languages,
religions, etcetera, all trying

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to find a way to live together
there.

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And I'm expecting that one of
these days they will do that.

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But in the meantime, they have
to face these issues while they

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work on the larger ecological
and environmental and

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existential issues that we all
face as humanity.

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One of the things that has come
out of this in the last couple

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years, Oroville International
USA has developed a project

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called Flourish and it's, you
can look it up at AVIU

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sa.org/flourish.
And that project is there to

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support the Oroville projects
that are doing these various

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things and to help them flourish
with the idea that they should

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be reproducible, scalable, and
sustainable.

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And so instead of dropping a
large water plant or a large

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electrical plant into a local
community where the people

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aren't prepared for it and
aren't able to support it and

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deal with it, they want to find
projects that are low tech that

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are suited to a local
environment and that the local

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people can apply themselves
instead of someone coming in

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from outside and doing it for
them.

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They want to provide projects
and opportunities that people

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can apply locally and grow with
and live with using the

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methodologies similar to what we
spoke about with the

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Reforestation program.
There are also programs in waste

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management.
Pollution and waste management

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is one of the largest problems
we have as humanity because we

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do not recognize what we call
the cradle to grave of the

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things we produce.
And so we put large amounts of

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plastic material into the oceans
and we're creating a huge

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garbage patch in the oceans,
which complicates that problem

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because we have no solutions.
The solution we have as mental

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beings is let's ban plastic
straws.

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And I guess that's fine, let's
ban plastic straws.

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But we haven't got to the root
of the problem there.

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So there's a group at Oroville
working on how to deal with

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waste management, really looking
at the end products of what we

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as humanity are creating in
order to live on the planet.

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How to make sure that we have a
life cycle that incorporates the

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death of our fixed finished
goods and reincorporates them

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in.
And that project is called Waste

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Less.
Each of these steps is looking

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at one aspect of the larger
issues of humanity.

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So I've become a big fan, if you
will, of that Flourish project.

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And I think it it's not that
that project alone is a

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solution, or that Oroville alone
is the only place where these

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things are happening.
We see rising up all over the

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world these ideas and these
visions.

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Oroville may be 1 concentrated
beacon of experimentation in

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these directions, but in reality
there is one, as Tegard des

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Chardin said, one neurosphere,
one mental atmosphere that

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permeates the entire planet.
And as some individuals begin to

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link to this new paradigm, this
new consciousness, we find that

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it's popping up everywhere in
the world.

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And whether people recognize and
talk about Trioro Bindo or not,

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or the mother is really not the
relevant point.

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The relevant point is, are
people starting to recognize our

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interdependence with each other
and with the world we live in?

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Are we looking at the oneness of
the universe?

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Are we recognizing that we need
to be living in a harmonious way

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to our environment and with
others?

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And are they starting to develop
solutions that implement this

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paradigm?
And Oroville then becomes one

456
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:37,960
point of light, one example of
what's happening and starting to

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happen all over the world.
And that is the sign to me that

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the next phase of the
evolutionary development of

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00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:58,680
consciousness is becoming active
and is starting to address the

460
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,480
imbalances that our mental
consciousness has inadvertently

461
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,800
created.
What you may say are the

462
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,280
unintended consequences of the
development of mind now have to

463
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:18,120
be addressed as the intended
solutions of the Super mental

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consciousness.
And so I think that's basically

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00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:26,080
what I had to say today.
I'm sure there are some

466
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,200
questions and some discussion.
So let's open it up.

467
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,400
We have a few minutes left.
Thank you.

468
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,600
Thank you very much, Santosh.
That was absolutely wonderful.

469
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:48,800
A beautiful structure to your
talk when you outlined the

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00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,280
nature of the problem of
existential crisis and that we

471
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:58,760
as humanity are facing the cause
of the problem, of course, the

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00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,520
mental and the solutions and or
will as a case study.

473
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,840
So that was absolutely
beautiful, very much in line

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00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,720
with what both mother and
Shourabinda have emphasized,

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00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:17,400
that mind is certainly not the
instrument for knowledge, but it

476
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,560
can be a wonderful instrument
for conveying knowledge.

477
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,680
And I think that came out very,
very beautifully.

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,840
Thank you once again.
Let's let's open it up for

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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,960
comments, questions,
interactions and so on and so

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00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:42,700
forth.
Hi.

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00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:50,620
Santosh, this is Mike Hebel.
My reflections the the evolution

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00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:55,200
which we have seen since The Big
Bang has been at least from the

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00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,200
perspective of the modern mind,
extremely slow that it takes

484
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,400
millions and millions of years
for these changes that you have

485
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,680
talked about to occur.
What's the impetus now or the

486
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,400
propulsion now to speed that
process up?

487
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,800
And it will have to be speed up
at lightning speeds in order to

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00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,880
occur well.
That's a wonderful question, and

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00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,920
it's something that Srioro Bindo
and the Mother have actually

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00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,960
addressed, and that is that
through the conscious

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00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:39,000
participation of the human
being, the mental being, we are

492
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:45,520
able to do things that could not
take place at the same speed

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00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,400
through the unconscious, slow
evolutionary process of nature.

494
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Now, this is an unproven concept
for us, and we're either going

495
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,520
to survive or die whether this
succeeds or not.

496
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:09,240
But Sri Robindo and the Mother
felt that as human beings wake

497
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:14,760
up and become aware of this and
start to consciously align

498
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:21,920
themselves with the need and the
steps to develop a relationship

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00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,280
to this new consciousness, that
it can take place much more

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00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,040
quickly than what we might call
evolutionary time that you're

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00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,240
speaking about.
And we'll see.

502
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,240
I mean, one of the concepts that
that I've always enjoyed was the

503
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:46,160
idea of the 100th monkey.
And that is that at a certain

504
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,480
point in time when enough beings
of of a certain species learn

505
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,760
something that it quickly can
promulgate across that entire

506
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,920
species.
And so we don't need 8 billion

507
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,920
people all to evolve to a new
understanding for that new

508
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,200
understanding to become
operative.

509
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,280
We don't know how many it takes
for that 100th monkey to

510
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,880
operate, but under the pressure
that we're in right now, I'm

511
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:25,800
hoping that this process will in
fact take place relatively

512
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,720
quickly.
Thank you.

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00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:36,560
I I'd like to this is Ricky Poly
Cove and on the heels of what my

514
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:42,560
cable just expressed, I've
basically had a 41 year career

515
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:50,680
in medicine and have proposed to
the women that see me and the

516
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:56,240
clinicians that I teach that
there is biologic evolution,

517
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,640
which is what Santosh, you've so
beautifully outlined, which is

518
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,960
that very slow in a certain
sense, randomly selected

519
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:14,120
adaptive capacity for life.
Darwin And then that healthy

520
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:20,000
biologic evolutionary being has
this other opportunity, which is

521
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,720
super mind, but that awareness
that I think Gregory Bateson

522
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,680
expressed, you know, in the
anthropology literature many,

523
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,200
many years ago, that
everything's connected to

524
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,960
everything.
And so one of the joys I feel

525
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:42,760
presently, as discouraging as
the science is, is that we have

526
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,560
a university, California
Institute of Integral Studies,

527
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,160
founded on hard as Chowdary's
teachings, timeless teachings,

528
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,400
that in the midst of everything,
CIS is in better shape than

529
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,720
ever.
And so I'm pretty optimistic

530
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:06,600
that with the kind of wrestling
and entropy that we have with

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00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,680
our courageous students that
we're we're sowing the seas in a

532
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,480
way, you know, that is in
harmony with Oroville, but with

533
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,080
sort of tentacles that are far
reaching because so many of our

534
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:30,240
students are international as
well as zealot local, you know,

535
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,960
US based students to make the
world a better place.

536
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,880
So I see signs that are actually
optimistic in the midst of the

537
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,800
shadows.
Well, that's great.

538
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,480
You know, a lot of people say
that entropy or the dissolution

539
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,320
of systems, the the winding down
of energy is inevitable.

540
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,560
And I actually see it in the
opposite way.

541
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,880
I see that you have an
increasing concentration of

542
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:05,480
consciousness through time, and
therefore we're not in a phase

543
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,240
of entropy.
We're in a phase of

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00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,800
concentration and increase of
energy.

545
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:17,480
And if you look at it that way,
eventually this next

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00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,960
transitional step will be
completed and the new

547
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:28,200
consciousness will take its role
in the universal creation.

548
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,800
There's no doubt in my mind.
And I, I think at least, you

549
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:40,640
know, where science meets the
ineffable is but one might call

550
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,640
simply the power of prayer.
But this higher mind state that

551
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,880
actually exerts a force.
And that's where I think it's

552
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,640
incumbent upon all of us who
hold that wish and that ardent

553
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,360
loving light to invest in that.
You know, and that again, I

554
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,520
don't say that at the end of it,
continuing medical education

555
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,960
talk, but there's a lot of
literature and medicine

556
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,560
published really since the 70s.
But it's incredible showing the

557
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,080
effect of distance healing on
biologic outcomes.

558
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:20,960
So I, we have many examples
where it actually effects human

559
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,240
feelings and enlightenment that
appears to come from nowhere.

560
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,480
Like I didn't even try that hard
and didn't have to have

561
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,120
ayahuasca or LSD.
But now I understand I'm at one

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00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
with everyone.
So, you know, we have to beam

563
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,480
that a little bit more
assiduously towards China, I

564
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,560
think.
So we have a few billion people

565
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,720
to come on to the party.
Thank you.

566
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Thank you, Ricky, and thank you,
Santosh so much for for your

567
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,080
talk.
I appreciate it greatly.

568
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:06,440
Anton here, you commented
earlier how we need a crisis to

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00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,280
focus attention.
And it struck me, of course,

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00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,120
one, I, I, I see a yin Yang, you
know, on that.

571
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:21,640
But I also can help feeling that
the crises that we are facing as

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00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:29,040
a as a society, as a species, be
the the pandemic, the global

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00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,920
warming, climate change, are all
things that are intended to show

574
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,640
us that we have to recognize our
oneness.

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00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,920
That we cannot solve them as an
individual corporation, as an

576
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,760
individual nation, as an
individual human beings without

577
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,680
realizing that as I often say we
are not you know, we appear to

578
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:59,040
be separate leaves, but we are
in effect one tree And I'm

579
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,160
wondering, you know, global
climate change is not just

580
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,720
global warming, but a global
warning as to what we have to do

581
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:12,000
and how we must get together and
you know like your thoughts is

582
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,440
Earth.
Therefore you would agree, I

583
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,600
guess would be conscious that is
doing this for the good of

584
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,840
humanity, that you know
coronavirus is not just a bad

585
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,360
thing when it comes to the long
term picture.

586
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,760
Thousands of years from now, we
will have taught humanity how to

587
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,480
work together, hopefully.
Yes, well, it's a, it's a

588
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:42,040
symptom of the entire complex of
pressure that nature is putting

589
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,680
on us to change, as you're, as
you're pointing out.

590
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:52,160
And I, I think that if humanity
learns how to work together and

591
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:58,360
how to appreciate the oneness of
not only all people, but all

592
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,800
species and the entire
environment of the planet, we

593
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:11,280
can live in a world that is
harmonious, beautiful and

594
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:18,160
supportive of life and
development in a, in a very

595
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:24,880
positive way without creating
waste over on one side in order

596
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,200
to have our enjoyment on the
other.

597
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,960
So I, I did want to conclude
with a, a short quote from

598
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,360
Srioro Bindo.
And that is, the most vital

599
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,880
issue of the age is whether the
future progress of humanity is

600
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,800
to be governed by the modern
economic and materialistic mind

601
00:53:52,800 --> 00:54:00,120
of the West, or by a nobler
pragmatism guided, uplifted and

602
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,480
enlightened by spiritual culture
and knowledge.

603
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:13,320
And that's really our challenge.
Hi Santosh, Mike Hebel again,

604
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,640
before you go, I like the way
you put your your talk together

605
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,800
today.
And as I know you're the editor

606
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,600
in chief of Lotus.
Is there one or two publications

607
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,680
that you have produced in the
last several years that I could

608
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,520
follow up or others could follow
up on as as a way to supplement

609
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,360
the the content of your talk
today?

610
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,000
Not directly.
What we publish at Lotus is

611
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,160
primarily the major writings of
Sri Aurobindo in the US

612
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:50,040
editions.
And I do a daily blog and I've

613
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,680
been doing that for over 12
years and systematically go page

614
00:54:54,680 --> 00:55:00,160
by page through Sri Aurobindo's
major writings and take up

615
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,400
whatever the topic of the day is
that next page.

616
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,920
Today's topic actually was
something about pain management

617
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,760
and you'd be surprised at how
much is in there.

618
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:21,440
So you can look up any subject
you want on the blog and there's

619
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,120
a search bar.
It'll go through 12 years of

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,760
blog posts, I mean thousands of
posts and give you the quotes

621
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,640
and the locations of any
statements that relate to that,

622
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,640
whether it's super mental or
whether it's evolution or

623
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:42,080
whether it's pain management.
But we don't, we don't actually

624
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:49,000
have any books that directly
address this topic.

625
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,240
I've, I've covered the topic a
couple of times with a group

626
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,280
called selfgrowth.com and on the
Lotus Press website, we have two

627
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,960
video interviews up there where
they interviewed me on the

628
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:04,280
subject. 1 was the background
interview and the other one was

629
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,400
the practical applications
interview.

630
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,720
Covered a lot of the same ground
as today, but in a question and

631
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:17,400
answer format.
Thank you.

632
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,800
Thank you.
Thank you very much and thirst

633
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,240
for this wonderful talk and
beautiful interaction.

634
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,560
And thank you everyone for
joining in.

635
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,320
I will be reaching out to
Santosh more often than not in

636
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,440
the future so that we can have
him consistently present at the

637
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,560
fellowship.
These topics are extremely

638
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:51,400
important and I personally feel
that both Mother and Sher Bindo

639
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,480
are as relevant today as they
were when they were in their

640
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,240
respective bodies and and
writing about these stuff.

641
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,960
So in fact, I would say that
they have become even more

642
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:10,360
relevant, you know, in
particular with respect to how

643
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,800
the mind works, you know how the
mind needs to be transcended.

644
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,240
What happens when mine wine gets
transcended?

645
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,040
You know, what are the sources
of inspiration that we come in

646
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,280
contact with and so on and so
forth.

647
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,000
At the fellowship, there has
been a growing interest in

648
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,720
making sure Bindo more and more
relevant and contemporary and

649
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,720
that is something that we are
emphasizing on and we are going

650
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,800
to emphasize as time progresses.
I also wanted to remind us all

651
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:54,320
that Sure, Bindo's 150th birth
anniversary is approaching.

652
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,800
It is on 15th of August.
I'll be giving a talk next

653
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Sunday on that topic.
So if you have some time, please

654
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,440
spare some time and and join us
at the fellowship.

655
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,640
Thank you once again and thank
you very much Satosh for your

656
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,920
talk and for your presentation.
Bye, bye, bye.