April 8, 2023
Occult Powers and the Spiritual Sadhana
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/occult-powers-and-the-spiritual-sadhana/
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In his lectures on Raja yoga in
the chapter titled Powers Swami
2
00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:12,500
Vivekananda explains how various
occult Powers arise or can be
3
00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:15,900
developed.
The process is an extension of
4
00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:19,700
the preceding efforts of
purification, quieting of the
5
00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:24,400
Mind stuff, and then gaining the
ability to fix the concentration
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00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,800
on a particular object, if one
turns to the focus on
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00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,200
development of specific,
Empowers, this form of
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00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,000
concentrated effort, will
eventually bear fruit.
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If done with serious intent and
discipline the power eventually
10
00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,100
can be utilized at will.
The question, of course, arises
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00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,700
whether this focus on obtaining.
Such Powers is not actually
12
00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:51,900
distracting for the spiritual
Seeker.
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00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,300
It is one thing for powers to
arise spontaneously, or to be
14
00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:01,100
naturally developed in an
individual and it is quite
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00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:06,500
another to devote serious time.
Attention and focus to the
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00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:11,300
acquisition of these powers.
Even when such Powers arise
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naturally, the spiritual Seeker
has to evaluate to what extent
18
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they aid in the process of the
sadhna.
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And to what extent they are,
either a distraction or are
20
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simply feeding the ego
personality.
21
00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:33,300
Obviously, as a new expression
of Consciousness takes hold as
22
00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:37,400
Humanity evolves beyond the
mental level, as its highest
23
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,600
expression.
One could expect that this new
24
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,900
level of Consciousness naturally
includes certain powers of
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understanding perception and
action that are not available to
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the general mental vital,
physical Evolution within which
27
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we currently live in Act.
As these Powers then come into
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00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:03,800
play and become normalized.
They will not obviously, require
29
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,300
the kind of effort needed in a
self exceeding of the current
30
00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:12,100
level of Consciousness.
And they will be part of a new
31
00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:17,200
framework of living.
In the meantime as the spiritual
32
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000
discipline proceeds and the
secret begins to have
33
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000
experiences of openings and
descents of intermediate, stages
34
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of development.
There may come a glimpses and
35
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,200
expressions of certain powers
which can be experienced
36
00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:39,600
understood and not turned into
an object of Desire.
37
00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:44,900
Certainly the idea of creating
either fame or Fortune from the
38
00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:49,700
use of these Powers holds its
dangers for the seeker and would
39
00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:52,200
be highly discouraged as a
result.
40
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The mother describes the
consequences of such a direction
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in Greater depth the mother
notes quote.
42
00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:05,900
Besides one thing is certain
those who do not have these
43
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,200
faculties and want to acquire
them.
44
00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,900
For instance, the paucity of
foresight for seeing what is
45
00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:17,500
going to come, which is
analogous to prophesy the
46
00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:20,700
capacity to know events before
they happen.
47
00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,600
As I said there are people who
have this spontaneously because
48
00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,800
of some peculiarity from birth.
And if one wants to acquire them
49
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himself, that is to say, enter
into contact with regions where
50
00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:40,200
these things can be seen.
And not by chance or
51
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,500
accidentally or without having
any control over the thing.
52
00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,400
But on the contrary to see them
at will, then this indeed means
53
00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,300
of formidable work.
And that is why some people
54
00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,100
attach a very great value to
these things.
55
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But they have some value only
when they are under one's
56
00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:08,200
control done it will and the
result of an inner discipline in
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00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,700
this case.
Yes because this proves you have
58
00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:14,300
entered into contact with a
certain region where it is
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00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:18,800
difficult to enter consciously
at will and permanently.
60
00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:23,300
It is very difficult, it
requires much development.
61
00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,700
And then for you to be sure of
what you have seen because I
62
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haven't told you that with these
people who make a profession of
63
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their Clairvoyance, it becomes I
said commercialism but it is
64
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worse than that, you know, it is
a fraud when they do not see
65
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anything, they invent, when they
make a profession of it, and
66
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people come to ask them
something about the future and
67
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they can see nothing at all.
They are To invent something,
68
00:04:55,900 --> 00:05:00,100
otherwise they would lose their
reputation and their clientele.
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00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,500
So this becomes a deception, you
see a falsehood fraud or
70
00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:13,100
falsification and quote
reference SRI aurobindo, and the
71
00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:17,200
mother growing within the
psychology of inner development.
72
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,500
Chapter 7, growth of
Consciousness, inner experiences
73
00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400
pages, one 12:31, Thirty.
00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:07,100
In his lectures on Raja yoga in
the chapter titled Powers Swami
2
00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:12,500
Vivekananda explains how various
occult Powers arise or can be
3
00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:15,900
developed.
The process is an extension of
4
00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:19,700
the preceding efforts of
purification, quieting of the
5
00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:24,400
Mind stuff, and then gaining the
ability to fix the concentration
6
00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,800
on a particular object, if one
turns to the focus on
7
00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,200
development of specific,
Empowers, this form of
8
00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,000
concentrated effort, will
eventually bear fruit.
9
00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,600
If done with serious intent and
discipline the power eventually
10
00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,100
can be utilized at will.
The question, of course, arises
11
00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,700
whether this focus on obtaining.
Such Powers is not actually
12
00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:51,900
distracting for the spiritual
Seeker.
13
00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,300
It is one thing for powers to
arise spontaneously, or to be
14
00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:01,100
naturally developed in an
individual and it is quite
15
00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:06,500
another to devote serious time.
Attention and focus to the
16
00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:11,300
acquisition of these powers.
Even when such Powers arise
17
00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:16,000
naturally, the spiritual Seeker
has to evaluate to what extent
18
00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,400
they aid in the process of the
sadhna.
19
00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,300
And to what extent they are,
either a distraction or are
20
00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:27,300
simply feeding the ego
personality.
21
00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:33,300
Obviously, as a new expression
of Consciousness takes hold as
22
00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:37,400
Humanity evolves beyond the
mental level, as its highest
23
00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,600
expression.
One could expect that this new
24
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,900
level of Consciousness naturally
includes certain powers of
25
00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:50,000
understanding perception and
action that are not available to
26
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,500
the general mental vital,
physical Evolution within which
27
00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:59,100
we currently live in Act.
As these Powers then come into
28
00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:03,800
play and become normalized.
They will not obviously, require
29
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,300
the kind of effort needed in a
self exceeding of the current
30
00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:12,100
level of Consciousness.
And they will be part of a new
31
00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:17,200
framework of living.
In the meantime as the spiritual
32
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000
discipline proceeds and the
secret begins to have
33
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000
experiences of openings and
descents of intermediate, stages
34
00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000
of development.
There may come a glimpses and
35
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,200
expressions of certain powers
which can be experienced
36
00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:39,600
understood and not turned into
an object of Desire.
37
00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:44,900
Certainly the idea of creating
either fame or Fortune from the
38
00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:49,700
use of these Powers holds its
dangers for the seeker and would
39
00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:52,200
be highly discouraged as a
result.
40
00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,000
The mother describes the
consequences of such a direction
41
00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,000
in Greater depth the mother
notes quote.
42
00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:05,900
Besides one thing is certain
those who do not have these
43
00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,200
faculties and want to acquire
them.
44
00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,900
For instance, the paucity of
foresight for seeing what is
45
00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:17,500
going to come, which is
analogous to prophesy the
46
00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:20,700
capacity to know events before
they happen.
47
00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,600
As I said there are people who
have this spontaneously because
48
00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,800
of some peculiarity from birth.
And if one wants to acquire them
49
00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,300
himself, that is to say, enter
into contact with regions where
50
00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:40,200
these things can be seen.
And not by chance or
51
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,500
accidentally or without having
any control over the thing.
52
00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,400
But on the contrary to see them
at will, then this indeed means
53
00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,300
of formidable work.
And that is why some people
54
00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,100
attach a very great value to
these things.
55
00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:01,200
But they have some value only
when they are under one's
56
00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:08,200
control done it will and the
result of an inner discipline in
57
00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,700
this case.
Yes because this proves you have
58
00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:14,300
entered into contact with a
certain region where it is
59
00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:18,800
difficult to enter consciously
at will and permanently.
60
00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:23,300
It is very difficult, it
requires much development.
61
00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,700
And then for you to be sure of
what you have seen because I
62
00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:31,700
haven't told you that with these
people who make a profession of
63
00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:37,400
their Clairvoyance, it becomes I
said commercialism but it is
64
00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:43,000
worse than that, you know, it is
a fraud when they do not see
65
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,600
anything, they invent, when they
make a profession of it, and
66
00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,000
people come to ask them
something about the future and
67
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,300
they can see nothing at all.
They are To invent something,
68
00:04:55,900 --> 00:05:00,100
otherwise they would lose their
reputation and their clientele.
69
00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,500
So this becomes a deception, you
see a falsehood fraud or
70
00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:13,100
falsification and quote
reference SRI aurobindo, and the
71
00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:17,200
mother growing within the
psychology of inner development.
72
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,500
Chapter 7, growth of
Consciousness, inner experiences
73
00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400
pages, one 12:31, Thirty.
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