Aug. 20, 2025
Neither Suppression, Indulgence, Blame-Shifting Nor Avoidance Solves the Issue of Overcoming the Vital Force of Desire
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Looking from Within, Chapter 5, Attitudes on the Path, pp. 153-154
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1
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,000
When a spring is compressed, it
builds up a tremendous power of
2
00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,480
potential energy, which gets
released when the force that is
3
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,840
compressing the spring is
released.
4
00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,120
This is essentially how the
vital force of desire operates
5
00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,880
when we try to suppress a drive
through willpower or other forms
6
00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,680
of restraint.
The resultant explosion of the
7
00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,840
force, when it gets a chance to
express itself, sometimes goes
8
00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,680
far beyond what the normal drive
would do if it's simply allowed
9
00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,840
to operate in the normal course.
It is no wonder that attempts to
10
00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,440
control the vital through mental
willpower eventually prove to
11
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,640
not work.
It is also no wonder that there
12
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,280
are innumerable instances of
individuals who have taken vows
13
00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,560
of chastity, for instance, who
wind up engaging in pursuits
14
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000
that overcome the force of those
vows.
15
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,480
We try to enforce moral laws or
rules on people, but find that
16
00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,640
somehow the vital Dr. succeeds
in manifesting itself.
17
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640
Some individuals attempt to
bring their vital nature under
18
00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,360
control through various forms of
punishment or even torture, such
19
00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,040
as with a hair shirt or the use
of the celise as a way to
20
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,960
mortify the flesh.
Some try to blame others for
21
00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:29,560
their failure to control various
vital drives, leading to
22
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,640
potential beatings, torture,
ritual purifications, or murders
23
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600
in the name of some kind of
moral purity.
24
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,360
Witness the Salem Witch trials
or the burning of Joan of Arc as
25
00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,080
extreme examples of an attempt
to enforce morality on others to
26
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,160
make up for the individual
failures of the people holding
27
00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,800
the power to solve the Riddle of
the vital drives.
28
00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,400
Some try to simply avoid the
issue entirely by renouncing the
29
00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,160
active life, withdrawing from
social relationships, and
30
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,320
thereby avoiding much of the
pressure and impulsion of the
31
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,360
vital nature when it is exposed
to various forms of temptation.
32
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,240
Unfortunately, this approach
does not actually solve the
33
00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,480
issue, but simply puts off the
issue to a future time, place or
34
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,880
circumstance.
And in some cases we have
35
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,240
learned about the renunciate
when suddenly exposed to
36
00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,000
temptation, either through
entering into a societal setting
37
00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,680
where having the issue come
before him where he has his
38
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,880
retreat, has been shown to lose
control of the vital nature and
39
00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:52,000
either indulge the desire or
manifest anger that arises due
40
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,880
to the energy being suppressed
and not otherwise directed or
41
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,720
dissipated.
Since it is clear that
42
00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,920
suppression does not work, nor
does the use of punishment,
43
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,080
torture, or any attempt to blame
others for one's own inability
44
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,560
to manage the vital forces in
one's life, there must be
45
00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,240
another way.
This also has led to various
46
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,200
attempted solutions.
One of these is the idea that
47
00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480
one should just let nature take
its course and indulge in these
48
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,840
vital drives as they arise.
That, of course, turns out to be
49
00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,880
a weak justification for a
failure to address the need for
50
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,520
development and change of human
nature and winds up distracting
51
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,960
the individual from focus on the
goal.
52
00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,400
Another, even more radical
method is to indulge the desire
53
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,240
actively and purposely with the
idea that through satiation it
54
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,040
will be put to rest.
Unfortunately, history of this
55
00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,480
approach tells us that it is the
very rare individual who finds
56
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880
such a solution to actually
succeed.
57
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,960
And for the most part, the
indulgence increases both the
58
00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,840
power of the drive and in many
cases increases the dosage
59
00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,079
needed to achieve satiation as
time goes on, leading to an ever
60
00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:23,960
increasing cycle of indulgence
and satiation, but certainly not
61
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,640
to rejection and a redirection
of the energies to other and
62
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,640
higher pursuits.
If suppression, shifting of the
63
00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,400
blame, avoidance and indulgence
do not work, we then have to
64
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,760
find a way that does work.
As Sri Aurobindo has noted,
65
00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:47,760
there is the separation of the
witness consciousness from the
66
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,600
external act of nature, which
makes it easier to 1st remove
67
00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,000
any sanction for it and
eventually reject the drive as
68
00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,760
something external that is
trying to invade rather than
69
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,720
something that is embedded as
part of 1's own life and
70
00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,360
personality.
He also points out that shifting
71
00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,200
the focus of the being to let
the psychic being, the sole
72
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,320
entity, take charge of the life
and provide its objectives, its
73
00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,320
aspiration for spiritual
fulfillment and a divine life
74
00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,040
changed the direction and focus
of the vital energy.
75
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,120
Each of these two methods have
shown success in helping
76
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,640
individuals overcome the force
of desire without the negative
77
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200
effects of the other methods
that have been attempted.
78
00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,240
Srioro Bindo notes quote.
It is true that the mere
79
00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,560
suppression or holding down of
desire is not enough, not by
80
00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,560
itself truly effective.
But that does not mean that
81
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,800
desires are to be indulged.
It means that desires have not
82
00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,280
merely to be suppressed, but to
be rejected from the nature.
83
00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,560
In place of desire there must be
a single minded aspiration
84
00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:12,160
towards the Divine.
End Quote Reference Sri
85
00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,080
Aurobindo and the Mother Looking
from Within, Chapter 5,
86
00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,280
Attitudes on the Path, pages 153
to 154.
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,000
When a spring is compressed, it
builds up a tremendous power of
2
00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,480
potential energy, which gets
released when the force that is
3
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,840
compressing the spring is
released.
4
00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,120
This is essentially how the
vital force of desire operates
5
00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,880
when we try to suppress a drive
through willpower or other forms
6
00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,680
of restraint.
The resultant explosion of the
7
00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,840
force, when it gets a chance to
express itself, sometimes goes
8
00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,680
far beyond what the normal drive
would do if it's simply allowed
9
00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,840
to operate in the normal course.
It is no wonder that attempts to
10
00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,440
control the vital through mental
willpower eventually prove to
11
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,640
not work.
It is also no wonder that there
12
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,280
are innumerable instances of
individuals who have taken vows
13
00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,560
of chastity, for instance, who
wind up engaging in pursuits
14
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000
that overcome the force of those
vows.
15
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,480
We try to enforce moral laws or
rules on people, but find that
16
00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,640
somehow the vital Dr. succeeds
in manifesting itself.
17
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640
Some individuals attempt to
bring their vital nature under
18
00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,360
control through various forms of
punishment or even torture, such
19
00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,040
as with a hair shirt or the use
of the celise as a way to
20
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,960
mortify the flesh.
Some try to blame others for
21
00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:29,560
their failure to control various
vital drives, leading to
22
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,640
potential beatings, torture,
ritual purifications, or murders
23
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600
in the name of some kind of
moral purity.
24
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,360
Witness the Salem Witch trials
or the burning of Joan of Arc as
25
00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,080
extreme examples of an attempt
to enforce morality on others to
26
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,160
make up for the individual
failures of the people holding
27
00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,800
the power to solve the Riddle of
the vital drives.
28
00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,400
Some try to simply avoid the
issue entirely by renouncing the
29
00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,160
active life, withdrawing from
social relationships, and
30
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,320
thereby avoiding much of the
pressure and impulsion of the
31
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,360
vital nature when it is exposed
to various forms of temptation.
32
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,240
Unfortunately, this approach
does not actually solve the
33
00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,480
issue, but simply puts off the
issue to a future time, place or
34
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,880
circumstance.
And in some cases we have
35
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,240
learned about the renunciate
when suddenly exposed to
36
00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,000
temptation, either through
entering into a societal setting
37
00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,680
where having the issue come
before him where he has his
38
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,880
retreat, has been shown to lose
control of the vital nature and
39
00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:52,000
either indulge the desire or
manifest anger that arises due
40
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,880
to the energy being suppressed
and not otherwise directed or
41
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,720
dissipated.
Since it is clear that
42
00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,920
suppression does not work, nor
does the use of punishment,
43
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,080
torture, or any attempt to blame
others for one's own inability
44
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,560
to manage the vital forces in
one's life, there must be
45
00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,240
another way.
This also has led to various
46
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,200
attempted solutions.
One of these is the idea that
47
00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480
one should just let nature take
its course and indulge in these
48
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,840
vital drives as they arise.
That, of course, turns out to be
49
00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,880
a weak justification for a
failure to address the need for
50
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,520
development and change of human
nature and winds up distracting
51
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,960
the individual from focus on the
goal.
52
00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,400
Another, even more radical
method is to indulge the desire
53
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,240
actively and purposely with the
idea that through satiation it
54
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,040
will be put to rest.
Unfortunately, history of this
55
00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,480
approach tells us that it is the
very rare individual who finds
56
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880
such a solution to actually
succeed.
57
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,960
And for the most part, the
indulgence increases both the
58
00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,840
power of the drive and in many
cases increases the dosage
59
00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,079
needed to achieve satiation as
time goes on, leading to an ever
60
00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:23,960
increasing cycle of indulgence
and satiation, but certainly not
61
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,640
to rejection and a redirection
of the energies to other and
62
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,640
higher pursuits.
If suppression, shifting of the
63
00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,400
blame, avoidance and indulgence
do not work, we then have to
64
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,760
find a way that does work.
As Sri Aurobindo has noted,
65
00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:47,760
there is the separation of the
witness consciousness from the
66
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,600
external act of nature, which
makes it easier to 1st remove
67
00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,000
any sanction for it and
eventually reject the drive as
68
00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,760
something external that is
trying to invade rather than
69
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,720
something that is embedded as
part of 1's own life and
70
00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,360
personality.
He also points out that shifting
71
00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,200
the focus of the being to let
the psychic being, the sole
72
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,320
entity, take charge of the life
and provide its objectives, its
73
00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,320
aspiration for spiritual
fulfillment and a divine life
74
00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,040
changed the direction and focus
of the vital energy.
75
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,120
Each of these two methods have
shown success in helping
76
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,640
individuals overcome the force
of desire without the negative
77
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200
effects of the other methods
that have been attempted.
78
00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,240
Srioro Bindo notes quote.
It is true that the mere
79
00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,560
suppression or holding down of
desire is not enough, not by
80
00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,560
itself truly effective.
But that does not mean that
81
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,800
desires are to be indulged.
It means that desires have not
82
00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,280
merely to be suppressed, but to
be rejected from the nature.
83
00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,560
In place of desire there must be
a single minded aspiration
84
00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:12,160
towards the Divine.
End Quote Reference Sri
85
00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,080
Aurobindo and the Mother Looking
from Within, Chapter 5,
86
00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,280
Attitudes on the Path, pages 153
to 154.
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