April 30, 2024
Mental Formations Mixing With Vital Forces
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An incident was observed
and reported by several
2
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,180
people, which illustrates
how mental formations can
3
00:00:08,180 --> 00:00:11,760
create entities on the
vital plane which become
4
00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,100
visible to those who have
eyes to see. The
5
00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:19,420
incident occurred in 1981
in California. An
6
00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:22,140
individual had come to the
West and took the role of
7
00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:25,100
a guru and had assembled a
number of people around
8
00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:28,440
him, young people who
aspired for guidance in
9
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,480
yoga. He
fell under the spell of
10
00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,020
sexual desire and a desire
to control and master
11
00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:38,780
others and the control of
money. Power,
12
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,460
wealth, and sex, the three
strong forces of vital
13
00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:47,280
desire, had taken hold of
him. One
14
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,740
of the individuals in the
group became aware of the
15
00:00:49,740 --> 00:00:53,500
pressure and determined to
leave the group. This
16
00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,300
enraged the leader who
assembled the entire group
17
00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:59,920
and engaged in an extended
rant, attacking the
18
00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,840
individual and demanding the
others choose sides. That
19
00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,860
is the setting of the
experience reported here.
20
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,500
Several
individuals saw a dark
21
00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:14,680
entity surround the guru
during the rant. It
22
00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,700
seemed to come out of him
and superimpose itself over
23
00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:22,020
his face, projecting itself
into the room. It
24
00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:26,240
was an angry, lustful,
desire -filled entity that
25
00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,580
manifested itself under the
pressure of the situation.
26
00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,500
It
shocked these individuals to
27
00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:36,280
such a degree that they
later discussed it and
28
00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520
found that they had a very
similar description of what
29
00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,760
they had seen. It
should be noted that these
30
00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,300
individuals left the group
and went on their own. The
31
00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:49,000
person in question was
later convicted of sexual
32
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,700
and physical abuse of minor
children and sentenced to
33
00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:56,340
prison for some years. He
had also, prior to his
34
00:01:56,340 --> 00:01:59,520
arrest and conviction, been
accused of forcible rape by
35
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,660
several women. Clearly,
the entity that was formed
36
00:02:03,660 --> 00:02:06,040
around him through the
development of his vital
37
00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,440
desires had obtained such a
power over him that he
38
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,120
lost all control and sense
of balance and proportion
39
00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,940
in his dealings with
others. The
40
00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:21,000
formations were so well
formed that they could be
41
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,420
observed by others and
identified for the dark and
42
00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:27,660
foreboding nature of their
energy. While
43
00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:31,420
this is an extreme case,
it illustrates clearly how
44
00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:35,420
the vital nature and the
mental nature intertwine and
45
00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:38,840
create strong formations
which can take on a
46
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,020
visible form which itself
impacts and interacts with
47
00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:47,000
others on the mental,
vital, and even physical
48
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,700
levels. The
mother observes, quote,
49
00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:55,260
People have desires add to
the mental formation a kind
50
00:02:55,260 --> 00:02:58,920
of small envelope, a vital
shell which gives it a
51
00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:02,820
still greater reality. These
people are usually
52
00:03:02,820 --> 00:03:06,360
surrounded by a number of
tiny entities which are
53
00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,780
their own formations, their
own mental formations,
54
00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:14,660
clothed with vital force,
which come all the time to
55
00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:18,820
strike them to try to make
them realize materially the
56
00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:22,000
formations they have made.
You
57
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,160
have perhaps read the books
of Maurice Magre. There
58
00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160
are some in the library.
He
59
00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,380
describes this. He
had come here, Maurice
60
00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:35,280
Magre, and we spoke, and
he told me that he had
61
00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,900
always noticed he was
highly sensitive. He
62
00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:42,180
had always noticed that
people of sexual desires
63
00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:46,100
are surrounded by a kind
of small swarm of entities
64
00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,900
who are somewhat viscous
and rather ugly and which
65
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,300
torment them constantly
awakening desire in them.
66
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,300
He
said he had seen this
67
00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:59,700
around certain people. It
was like being surrounded
68
00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:01,920
by a swarm of mosquitoes.
Yes.
69
00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:06,760
But it is more gross and
much uglier still. And
70
00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,900
it is viscous. It
is horrible. And
71
00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,440
it turns round and round
the person and gives him
72
00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,640
no peace. And
it awakens in him the
73
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,760
desire that has formed
these entities. And
74
00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,019
they batten on it. It
is their food. This
75
00:04:22,019 --> 00:04:25,800
is absolutely true. His
observation was quite
76
00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,720
correct. His
vision was very true. It
77
00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,880
is like that. But
everyone carries around
78
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,200
himself the atmosphere of
his own desires. So
79
00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,720
you don't at all require
that people should tell you
80
00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,460
anything. You
have only to look and you
81
00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:47,100
see around them exactly the
state they are in. They
82
00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,100
may want to give themselves
the heirs of angels or
83
00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,880
saints, but they can't
deceive you because that
84
00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,440
thing is there, turning
around them. So
85
00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,300
just imagine. Mother
points to all those seated
86
00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:05,280
in front of her. You
see what you are like. How
87
00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:08,860
many of you there? All
of you here. And
88
00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:11,600
each one has his own
little world in this way
89
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,340
of mental formations of
which some are clothed in
90
00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:18,640
vital substance. And
all these crawl together,
91
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,940
mix with each other, knock
against each other. There
92
00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:26,140
is a struggle to see which
is the strongest. Which
93
00:05:26,140 --> 00:05:29,180
tries to realize itself.
And
94
00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:33,140
all this creates an
atmosphere indeed. End
95
00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:37,000
quote. Reference.
Shri Aurobindo and the
96
00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440
Mother. The
Hidden Forces of Life.
97
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,160
Chapter
3. Hidden
98
00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,040
Forces Around. Pages
69 to 70.
00:00:01,819 --> 00:00:04,960
An incident was observed
and reported by several
2
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,180
people, which illustrates
how mental formations can
3
00:00:08,180 --> 00:00:11,760
create entities on the
vital plane which become
4
00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,100
visible to those who have
eyes to see. The
5
00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:19,420
incident occurred in 1981
in California. An
6
00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:22,140
individual had come to the
West and took the role of
7
00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:25,100
a guru and had assembled a
number of people around
8
00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:28,440
him, young people who
aspired for guidance in
9
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,480
yoga. He
fell under the spell of
10
00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,020
sexual desire and a desire
to control and master
11
00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:38,780
others and the control of
money. Power,
12
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,460
wealth, and sex, the three
strong forces of vital
13
00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:47,280
desire, had taken hold of
him. One
14
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,740
of the individuals in the
group became aware of the
15
00:00:49,740 --> 00:00:53,500
pressure and determined to
leave the group. This
16
00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,300
enraged the leader who
assembled the entire group
17
00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:59,920
and engaged in an extended
rant, attacking the
18
00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,840
individual and demanding the
others choose sides. That
19
00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,860
is the setting of the
experience reported here.
20
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,500
Several
individuals saw a dark
21
00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:14,680
entity surround the guru
during the rant. It
22
00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,700
seemed to come out of him
and superimpose itself over
23
00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:22,020
his face, projecting itself
into the room. It
24
00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:26,240
was an angry, lustful,
desire -filled entity that
25
00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,580
manifested itself under the
pressure of the situation.
26
00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,500
It
shocked these individuals to
27
00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:36,280
such a degree that they
later discussed it and
28
00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520
found that they had a very
similar description of what
29
00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,760
they had seen. It
should be noted that these
30
00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,300
individuals left the group
and went on their own. The
31
00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:49,000
person in question was
later convicted of sexual
32
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,700
and physical abuse of minor
children and sentenced to
33
00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:56,340
prison for some years. He
had also, prior to his
34
00:01:56,340 --> 00:01:59,520
arrest and conviction, been
accused of forcible rape by
35
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,660
several women. Clearly,
the entity that was formed
36
00:02:03,660 --> 00:02:06,040
around him through the
development of his vital
37
00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,440
desires had obtained such a
power over him that he
38
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,120
lost all control and sense
of balance and proportion
39
00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,940
in his dealings with
others. The
40
00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:21,000
formations were so well
formed that they could be
41
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,420
observed by others and
identified for the dark and
42
00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:27,660
foreboding nature of their
energy. While
43
00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:31,420
this is an extreme case,
it illustrates clearly how
44
00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:35,420
the vital nature and the
mental nature intertwine and
45
00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:38,840
create strong formations
which can take on a
46
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,020
visible form which itself
impacts and interacts with
47
00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:47,000
others on the mental,
vital, and even physical
48
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,700
levels. The
mother observes, quote,
49
00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:55,260
People have desires add to
the mental formation a kind
50
00:02:55,260 --> 00:02:58,920
of small envelope, a vital
shell which gives it a
51
00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:02,820
still greater reality. These
people are usually
52
00:03:02,820 --> 00:03:06,360
surrounded by a number of
tiny entities which are
53
00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,780
their own formations, their
own mental formations,
54
00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:14,660
clothed with vital force,
which come all the time to
55
00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:18,820
strike them to try to make
them realize materially the
56
00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:22,000
formations they have made.
You
57
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,160
have perhaps read the books
of Maurice Magre. There
58
00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160
are some in the library.
He
59
00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,380
describes this. He
had come here, Maurice
60
00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:35,280
Magre, and we spoke, and
he told me that he had
61
00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,900
always noticed he was
highly sensitive. He
62
00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:42,180
had always noticed that
people of sexual desires
63
00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:46,100
are surrounded by a kind
of small swarm of entities
64
00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,900
who are somewhat viscous
and rather ugly and which
65
00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,300
torment them constantly
awakening desire in them.
66
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,300
He
said he had seen this
67
00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:59,700
around certain people. It
was like being surrounded
68
00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:01,920
by a swarm of mosquitoes.
Yes.
69
00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:06,760
But it is more gross and
much uglier still. And
70
00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,900
it is viscous. It
is horrible. And
71
00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,440
it turns round and round
the person and gives him
72
00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,640
no peace. And
it awakens in him the
73
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,760
desire that has formed
these entities. And
74
00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,019
they batten on it. It
is their food. This
75
00:04:22,019 --> 00:04:25,800
is absolutely true. His
observation was quite
76
00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,720
correct. His
vision was very true. It
77
00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,880
is like that. But
everyone carries around
78
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,200
himself the atmosphere of
his own desires. So
79
00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,720
you don't at all require
that people should tell you
80
00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,460
anything. You
have only to look and you
81
00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:47,100
see around them exactly the
state they are in. They
82
00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,100
may want to give themselves
the heirs of angels or
83
00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,880
saints, but they can't
deceive you because that
84
00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,440
thing is there, turning
around them. So
85
00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,300
just imagine. Mother
points to all those seated
86
00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:05,280
in front of her. You
see what you are like. How
87
00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:08,860
many of you there? All
of you here. And
88
00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:11,600
each one has his own
little world in this way
89
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,340
of mental formations of
which some are clothed in
90
00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:18,640
vital substance. And
all these crawl together,
91
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,940
mix with each other, knock
against each other. There
92
00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:26,140
is a struggle to see which
is the strongest. Which
93
00:05:26,140 --> 00:05:29,180
tries to realize itself.
And
94
00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:33,140
all this creates an
atmosphere indeed. End
95
00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:37,000
quote. Reference.
Shri Aurobindo and the
96
00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440
Mother. The
Hidden Forces of Life.
97
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,160
Chapter
3. Hidden
98
00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,040
Forces Around. Pages
69 to 70.