June 10, 2024
Mental Formations Can Create Experiential Domains
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch. 5 Occult Forces, pp. 110-111 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/06/06/mental-formations-can-create-experiential-domains/
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The gross physical forms result
from the subtler levels that are
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either the immediate effective
means or the causal level that
3
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has formulated the result.
If we look at the construction
4
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of a bridge or a building, we
see that first there is an idea
5
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that develops.
The idea turns into a formulated
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mental process of design.
Then there is an organizational
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phase whereby the various
designed elements are acquired.
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What happens next is a step by
step process to bring the design
9
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,720
into being.
Eventually the building or
10
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,160
bridge results.
It is the same way with all
11
00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,520
things that humans create in the
world.
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Some things do not have specific
physical forms such as described
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00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:58,200
here, but have either mental or
vital forms that never reach the
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stage of physical manifestation,
yet impact things on these other
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00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,080
planes or levels.
We find that frequently people
16
00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,040
create in their minds various
images about what may happen in
17
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800
the future, what will happen to
them after death, what results
18
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,480
may occur as they proceed
through their lives.
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Depending on how they formulate
these images of the future and
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how strongly they organize them,
they set a direction, a
21
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trajectory, and an impulsion in
that direction, which then tend
22
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to attract the circumstances and
forces to carry out that
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intention in their minds.
One of the things that people
24
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tend to dwell on is how they
will experience life after
25
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death.
Regardless of the actual reality
26
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of life and death, they imagine
that they will attain to heaven,
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that they will rejoin their
loved ones in heaven, or else if
28
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they have done things that
caused them to carry guilt and
29
00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280
fear around with them, they will
tend to see their future
30
00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,479
existence in a sort of hell.
Some people actually create
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these ideas with so much
intensity that they live in a
32
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heaven or a hell of their own
making right here in their
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earthly life.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
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describes the process of the
dissolution of the tie of the
35
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consciousness to the physical
body and the actual trajectory
36
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it follows as it traverses the
intervening zone, which is
37
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called the bardo.
Subject to the directions set
38
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during the life and at the time
of departure from life, past
39
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causal energies propel them
forward along the lines they
40
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previously created and based on
their spiritual development,
41
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their clarity of mind, their
vital purity, they will wind up
42
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,360
taking birth in either another
body that is either destined to
43
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various forms of enjoyment or
suffering.
44
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As they work through all the
past influences and achieve
45
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enlightenment, the Mother
observes.
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Quote.
In these invisible worlds there
47
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are also regions which are the
result of human mental
48
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formations.
One can find their all one
49
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wants.
In fact, one very often finds
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their exactly what one expects
to find.
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There are Hells, there are
paradises, there are
52
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purgatories, there are all sorts
of things.
53
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In accordance with the different
religions and their conceptions.
54
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These things have only a very
relative existence, but with a
55
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relativity similar to that of
material things here.
56
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That is to say, for someone who
finds himself there, they are
57
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entirely real and their effects
quite tangible. 1 needs an inner
58
00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,440
liberation, a wideness of the
consciousness and a contact with
59
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,040
a deeper and higher truth to be
able to escape from the illusion
60
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of their reality.
But this is something almost
61
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similar to what happens here.
Human beings here are mostly
62
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convinced that the only reality
is the physical reality, the
63
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reality of what one can touch,
can see.
64
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And for them all that cannot be
seen, cannot be touched, cannot
65
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be felt, is, after all
problematical.
66
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Well, what happens there is an
identical phenomenon.
67
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People who at the moment of
death are convinced for one
68
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,960
reason or another that they are
going to paradise or maybe to
69
00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,280
hell do find themselves there
after their death.
70
00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,920
And for them it is truly a
paradise or a hell.
71
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,360
And it is extremely difficult to
make them come out of it and go
72
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,760
to a place which is more true,
more real.
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End Quote Reference Sri
Aurobindo and the Mother, The
74
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Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter
5, Occult Forces, pages 110 to
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111.
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200
The gross physical forms result
from the subtler levels that are
2
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,400
either the immediate effective
means or the causal level that
3
00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,600
has formulated the result.
If we look at the construction
4
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,520
of a bridge or a building, we
see that first there is an idea
5
00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,360
that develops.
The idea turns into a formulated
6
00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,640
mental process of design.
Then there is an organizational
7
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,040
phase whereby the various
designed elements are acquired.
8
00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,680
What happens next is a step by
step process to bring the design
9
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,720
into being.
Eventually the building or
10
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,160
bridge results.
It is the same way with all
11
00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,520
things that humans create in the
world.
12
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,160
Some things do not have specific
physical forms such as described
13
00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:58,200
here, but have either mental or
vital forms that never reach the
14
00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,880
stage of physical manifestation,
yet impact things on these other
15
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,080
planes or levels.
We find that frequently people
16
00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,040
create in their minds various
images about what may happen in
17
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800
the future, what will happen to
them after death, what results
18
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,480
may occur as they proceed
through their lives.
19
00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,400
Depending on how they formulate
these images of the future and
20
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,840
how strongly they organize them,
they set a direction, a
21
00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,240
trajectory, and an impulsion in
that direction, which then tend
22
00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,720
to attract the circumstances and
forces to carry out that
23
00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,160
intention in their minds.
One of the things that people
24
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,320
tend to dwell on is how they
will experience life after
25
00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:50,040
death.
Regardless of the actual reality
26
00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,680
of life and death, they imagine
that they will attain to heaven,
27
00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,040
that they will rejoin their
loved ones in heaven, or else if
28
00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640
they have done things that
caused them to carry guilt and
29
00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280
fear around with them, they will
tend to see their future
30
00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,479
existence in a sort of hell.
Some people actually create
31
00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:15,120
these ideas with so much
intensity that they live in a
32
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,800
heaven or a hell of their own
making right here in their
33
00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,880
earthly life.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
34
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,920
describes the process of the
dissolution of the tie of the
35
00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:33,160
consciousness to the physical
body and the actual trajectory
36
00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,200
it follows as it traverses the
intervening zone, which is
37
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,880
called the bardo.
Subject to the directions set
38
00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,480
during the life and at the time
of departure from life, past
39
00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,880
causal energies propel them
forward along the lines they
40
00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,320
previously created and based on
their spiritual development,
41
00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,320
their clarity of mind, their
vital purity, they will wind up
42
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,360
taking birth in either another
body that is either destined to
43
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,440
various forms of enjoyment or
suffering.
44
00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,160
As they work through all the
past influences and achieve
45
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,200
enlightenment, the Mother
observes.
46
00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,600
Quote.
In these invisible worlds there
47
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640
are also regions which are the
result of human mental
48
00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,960
formations.
One can find their all one
49
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,360
wants.
In fact, one very often finds
50
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,520
their exactly what one expects
to find.
51
00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800
There are Hells, there are
paradises, there are
52
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,200
purgatories, there are all sorts
of things.
53
00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,040
In accordance with the different
religions and their conceptions.
54
00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,880
These things have only a very
relative existence, but with a
55
00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,200
relativity similar to that of
material things here.
56
00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,440
That is to say, for someone who
finds himself there, they are
57
00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,440
entirely real and their effects
quite tangible. 1 needs an inner
58
00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,440
liberation, a wideness of the
consciousness and a contact with
59
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,040
a deeper and higher truth to be
able to escape from the illusion
60
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,880
of their reality.
But this is something almost
61
00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,000
similar to what happens here.
Human beings here are mostly
62
00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,280
convinced that the only reality
is the physical reality, the
63
00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,400
reality of what one can touch,
can see.
64
00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:35,080
And for them all that cannot be
seen, cannot be touched, cannot
65
00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,400
be felt, is, after all
problematical.
66
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,720
Well, what happens there is an
identical phenomenon.
67
00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,000
People who at the moment of
death are convinced for one
68
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,960
reason or another that they are
going to paradise or maybe to
69
00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,280
hell do find themselves there
after their death.
70
00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,920
And for them it is truly a
paradise or a hell.
71
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,360
And it is extremely difficult to
make them come out of it and go
72
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,760
to a place which is more true,
more real.
73
00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,920
End Quote Reference Sri
Aurobindo and the Mother, The
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00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,200
Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter
5, Occult Forces, pages 110 to
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00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,000
111.
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