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June 2, 2024

Matter, Subtle Matter, the Causative Level and the Ability of Mind-Power or Vital Power to Create, Modify, Influence and Dissolve Material Forms

Matter, Subtle Matter, the Causative Level and the Ability of Mind-Power or Vital Power to Create, Modify, Influence and Dissolve Material Forms

reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch. 5 Occult Forces, pp 102-103 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/05/30/matter-subtle-matter-the-causative-level-and-the-ability-of-mind-power-or-vital-power-to-create-modify-influence-and-dissolve-material-forms/

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We tend to look at things from
the standpoint of the material

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formation it has taken.
If we look deeper, however, we

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see that the physical forms are
a creation or representation of

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ideas, forces, or processes that
occur on a subtle level and

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manifest into physical form only
at the end of the process of

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their creation, not their start.
The Greek philosopher Plato

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contemplated that physical forms
are not the ultimate reality,

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but are representations of an
idea that has been solidified.

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Basically, the Taitiria
Upanishad takes us through a

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journey of discovery by a young
disciple who wants to understand

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the nature of reality.
He begins with the idea that

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matter is the reality, but
through his concentration he

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eventually recognizes that
matter is a result, not a 'cause

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he successively goes through
several realizations that each

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represent more subtle causative
levels until he eventually

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reaches the knowledge level and
then the bliss level of

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causation.
The Vedic Rishis indicated that

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Agni, the Mystic fire, was
contained within the material

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forms.
Scientists concur, indicating

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that matter can be converted to
energy.

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Burning of wood or other
material substances represents

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the liberation of the force
represented by Agni from the

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material form within which it is
contained.

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Scientists recognize that matter
is actually a solidified form of

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energy.
They also describe various

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states of matter in a variety of
energetic phases.

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For instance, water can be a
solid in the form of ice, a

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liquid in the form of what we
call water, a gas in the form of

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water vapor in the atmosphere,
etcetera.

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What water actually is at the
idea or causative level may be

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something entirely different.
We continue to learn about

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water, and recently it was
revealed by a scientist who has

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studied the matter that while we
consider water to be a conductor

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of energy, it is actually not
the water itself that is a

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conductor, but various ionic
minerals dissolved in the water

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that are the conductors.
Purified water, distilled from a

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process that combines hydrogen
and oxygen atoms without these

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ionic minerals, is apparently
not a conductor of electricity

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as we generally believe it to
be.

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What indeed is water in its true
essence or idea?

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Numerous individuals have
experienced things that defied

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explanation on the purely
material external level, but

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which makes sense if we accept
the subtler and causal states of

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energy and consciousness.
Sri Arubinda related at one

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point an incident he personally
observed.

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His brother was extremely ill.
A wandering Sonyazi came by and

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saw the brother's status.
He asked for a cup of water,

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which he cut through with an
implement.

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While reciting certain mantras,
he bade the brother drink the

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water.
Within a short period of time,

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the brother quickly recovered
from the acute illness.

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The operations of homeopathic
medicines are disputed by

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allopathic practitioners as they
cannot see any physical means of

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action in these highly diluted
substances.

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Yet they have been shown to work
not only on humans but on dogs

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and horses, thus eliminating the
action of what is called the

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placebo effect by those who need
to put a name on a more subtle

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action that they do not
understand.

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Many people recognize the
ability of certain individuals

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through force of will to gain
ascendancy and control over

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other individuals.
This power of will domination

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can occur without any overt
physical control over the

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individual.
Clearly, the operation of mind

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power on the vital or physical
planes is evident and widely

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observed in this context.
An incident highlights this

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point.
A young woman gave birth in a

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hospital to a baby boy.
The nursing staff tried to

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control access to the child and
force vaccinations that the

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young mother clearly did not
want her parents.

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The child's grandparents were
visiting at one point when the

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nurses attempted to exercise
this control over the child

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against the wishes of the
mother.

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The grandfather of the child
focused his attention on the

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nursing staff while seated at
the other end of the room and

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spoke in a quiet but firm
manner, disputing the rights of

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the nursing staff to control the
newborn in the way they wanted

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to.
One of the nursing staff reached

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saying that the grandfather
would be banned from the

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hospital for attacking her, all
while the grandfather was seated

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7 or 8 meters distant and
speaking in a quiet voice.

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Clearly, some other force was
operative which the nurse

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interpreted as a form of
pressure or attack, Sri Robindo

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observes quote.
These extraordinary occurrences,

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which go outside the ordinary
course of physical nature,

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happen frequently in India and
are not unknown elsewhere.

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They are akin to what is called
poltergeist phenomena in Europe.

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Scientists do not speak or think
about such supernatural

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happenings except to Pooh Pooh
them or to prove that they are

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simply the tricks of children
simulating supernatural

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manifestations.
Scientific laws only give a

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schematic account of material
process of nature as a valid

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scheme.
They can be used for reproducing

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or extending at will a material
process, but obviously they

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cannot give an account of the
thing itself.

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Water, for instance, is not
merely so much oxygen and

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hydrogen put together.
The combination is simply a

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process or device for enabling
the manifestation of a new thing

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called water.
What that new thing really is is

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quite another matter.
In fact, there are different

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planes of substance, gross,
subtle, and more subtle, going

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back to what is called causal
karana substance.

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What is more gross can be
reduced to the subtle state and

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the subtle brought into the
gross state.

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That accounts for
dematerialization and

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rematerialization.
These are occult processes and

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are vulgarly described regarded
as magic.

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Ordinarily, the magician knows
nothing of the why and wherefore

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of what he is doing.
He has simply learned the

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formula of process, or else
controls elemental beings of the

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subtler states, plains, or
worlds who do the thing for him.

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The Tibetans indulge widely in
occult processes.

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If you see the books of Madam
David Neal, who has lived in

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Tibet, you will get an idea of
their expertness in these

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things.
But also the Tibetan lamas know

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something of the laws of occult,
mental and vital energy and how

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it can be made to act on
physical things.

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That is something which goes
beyond mere magic.

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The direct power of the mind
force or life force upon matter

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can be extended to an almost
illimitable degree.

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It must be remembered that
energy is fundamentally one in

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all the planes, only taking more
and more dense forms.

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So there is nothing a priori
impossible in mind energy or

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life energy acting directly on
material energy and substance.

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If they do, they can make a
material object do things, or

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rather can do things with a
material object, which would be

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to that object in its ordinary
poise or law, unhabitual and

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therefore apparently impossible.
End Quote Reference Shriorobindo

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and the Mother, The Hidden
Forces of Life, Chapter 5.

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Occult Forces pages one O 2 to
one O 3.