July 11, 2024
Involution, Evolution and the Pressure from Domains of Life and Mind
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch.6 Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary Forces, pp.146-147 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/07/07/involution-evolution-and-the-pressure-from-domains-of-life-and-mind/
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1
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We tend to take the development
of life and mind for granted.
2
00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,120
We do not actually reflect on
what it takes for them to emerge
3
00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,600
from matter.
Many believe that somehow
4
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,520
various chemical elements in the
material world are impacted by
5
00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,480
the radiation from the sun and
through the heat of the core of
6
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,880
the planet.
To modify material substance,
7
00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,040
recombine chemicals and voila,
life and then mind will emerge.
8
00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,080
Scientists are now finding
various essential elements found
9
00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,680
in biological entities on
meteorites, and they have
10
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,920
discovered the presence of water
on Mars, both of which
11
00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,440
indicating that there are other
potential causes to the
12
00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,520
emergence of life here.
Possibly it was brought here
13
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,480
from elsewhere, just as seeds of
various plants are carried
14
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,880
across vast expanses of oceans
to bring about trees and other
15
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,320
plant life on remote islands in
our world.
16
00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,000
However far we try to stretch
the influence of matter as the
17
00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,400
cause of life and mind, however,
we always run up against the
18
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,920
issue of causality and the need
for a force other than material
19
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,240
force to create life and mental
activity.
20
00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,440
It is telling that no one who
has asserted that given enough
21
00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,120
time, random mixing of the
chemical elements of the world
22
00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,680
will develop.
Shakespeare, in fact, has
23
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480
succeeded in creating life out
of bare matter.
24
00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,040
When we look at every living
form, we see that the
25
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,720
information required to build it
and energize it is contained in
26
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,960
seed form, an encoded data set
if you will.
27
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We can now map and analyze the
entire genome of certain
28
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,640
species, but have still been
unable to find a way to turn
29
00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200
matter into life even with this
understanding.
30
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,560
Charles Darwin, in describing
the evolution of species, skips
31
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,520
over this initial issue and
starts with life forms and how
32
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,520
they develop and are modified,
mutated, and adjusted over time
33
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320
due to the principle of survival
of the fittest.
34
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Essentially that those that are
better adjusted to their
35
00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,880
circumstances tend to survive
and thrive, and those that are
36
00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160
not tend to die off and not be
perpetuated.
37
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,320
The definition of the fittest is
thus directly tied to
38
00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,800
circumstances.
In today's world, that
39
00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,520
definition would be vastly
different than in the world of
40
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,000
the Neanderthal, for instance.
The qualities are transmitted
41
00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,520
through the genetic code.
Researchers in genetics have
42
00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480
found that certain
characteristics perpetuate as
43
00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,160
dominant and others as
recessive.
44
00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,720
Over time.
Both.
45
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,040
Natural selection takes place
which combines genetic material
46
00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,720
from the parents into a new
variation, and which tends to
47
00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,040
favor those that are the fittest
in that environment to
48
00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,600
reproduce, and mutation play a
role in bringing about change.
49
00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,760
Mutation can be caused by
external factors such as
50
00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200
radiation, as well as other
causes.
51
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,560
Mutation can be beneficial to
the survival of the species, or
52
00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,080
detrimental depending on what it
takes for its actual form.
53
00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,920
The question still arises as to
how this all occurs.
54
00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920
Shriorobindo has noted that
nothing can evolve that has not
55
00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480
been previously involved in
matter.
56
00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,880
This is akin to the encoding of
a data set within certain forms
57
00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,960
of matter such that it can
express life and under the right
58
00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,400
circumstances, in the correct
developed forms.
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The powers of mine.
In order to be involved,
60
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,800
however, they must come from
elsewhere, and for this we then
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have to appreciate the existence
of independent worlds or domains
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of life and mind that act within
their own sphere and which then
63
00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880
imprint impacts into the
material world.
64
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,720
There then comes about both the
possibility and the necessity of
65
00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,400
a dual action.
In order to create the world as
66
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,800
we know it, there needs to be
the internal pressure from
67
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,040
within to manifest the encoded
data, and there must be a
68
00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,920
pressure from the native planes,
which are the source of that
69
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,640
encoding, to support and further
that action when the time and
70
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,440
circumstances are favourable,
Shuyorobindo writes.
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Quote.
Our material world is the result
72
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,800
of all the others, for the other
principles have all descended
73
00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,880
into matter to create the
physical universe, and every
74
00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,120
particle of what we call matter
contains all of them implicit in
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00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,640
itself.
Their secret action is involved
76
00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,000
in every moment of its existence
and every movement of its
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activity.
And as matter is the last word
78
00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:36,080
of the descent, so it is also
the first word of the ascent.
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As the powers of all these
planes, worlds, grades, degrees
80
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,960
are involved in the material
existence, so are they all
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capable of evolution out of it.
It is for this reason that
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00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,720
material being does not begin
and end with gases and chemical
83
00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,960
compounds and physical forces
and movements with nebulae and
84
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Suns and earths, but evolves.
Life evolves, mind must evolve
85
00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,120
eventually.
Supermind and the higher degrees
86
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of the spiritual existence.
Evolution comes by the unceasing
87
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,160
pressure of the supra material
planes on the material,
88
00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320
compelling it to deliver out of
itself their principles and
89
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,160
powers, which might conceivably
otherwise have slept imprisoned
90
00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120
in the rigidity of the material
formula.
91
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This would Even so have been
improbable, since their presence
92
00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,200
there implies a purpose of
deliverance, but still this
93
00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,880
necessity from below is actually
very much aided by a kindred
94
00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,960
superior pressure.
End Quote.
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Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother, The Hidden Forces of
96
00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,880
Life, Chapter 6.
Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary
97
00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,040
Forces, pages 146 to 147.
00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,280
We tend to take the development
of life and mind for granted.
2
00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,120
We do not actually reflect on
what it takes for them to emerge
3
00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,600
from matter.
Many believe that somehow
4
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,520
various chemical elements in the
material world are impacted by
5
00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,480
the radiation from the sun and
through the heat of the core of
6
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,880
the planet.
To modify material substance,
7
00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,040
recombine chemicals and voila,
life and then mind will emerge.
8
00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,080
Scientists are now finding
various essential elements found
9
00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,680
in biological entities on
meteorites, and they have
10
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,920
discovered the presence of water
on Mars, both of which
11
00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,440
indicating that there are other
potential causes to the
12
00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,520
emergence of life here.
Possibly it was brought here
13
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,480
from elsewhere, just as seeds of
various plants are carried
14
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,880
across vast expanses of oceans
to bring about trees and other
15
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,320
plant life on remote islands in
our world.
16
00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,000
However far we try to stretch
the influence of matter as the
17
00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,400
cause of life and mind, however,
we always run up against the
18
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,920
issue of causality and the need
for a force other than material
19
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,240
force to create life and mental
activity.
20
00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,440
It is telling that no one who
has asserted that given enough
21
00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,120
time, random mixing of the
chemical elements of the world
22
00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,680
will develop.
Shakespeare, in fact, has
23
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480
succeeded in creating life out
of bare matter.
24
00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,040
When we look at every living
form, we see that the
25
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,720
information required to build it
and energize it is contained in
26
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,960
seed form, an encoded data set
if you will.
27
00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,520
We can now map and analyze the
entire genome of certain
28
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,640
species, but have still been
unable to find a way to turn
29
00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200
matter into life even with this
understanding.
30
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,560
Charles Darwin, in describing
the evolution of species, skips
31
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,520
over this initial issue and
starts with life forms and how
32
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,520
they develop and are modified,
mutated, and adjusted over time
33
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320
due to the principle of survival
of the fittest.
34
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,240
Essentially that those that are
better adjusted to their
35
00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,880
circumstances tend to survive
and thrive, and those that are
36
00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160
not tend to die off and not be
perpetuated.
37
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,320
The definition of the fittest is
thus directly tied to
38
00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,800
circumstances.
In today's world, that
39
00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,520
definition would be vastly
different than in the world of
40
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,000
the Neanderthal, for instance.
The qualities are transmitted
41
00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,520
through the genetic code.
Researchers in genetics have
42
00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480
found that certain
characteristics perpetuate as
43
00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,160
dominant and others as
recessive.
44
00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,720
Over time.
Both.
45
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,040
Natural selection takes place
which combines genetic material
46
00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,720
from the parents into a new
variation, and which tends to
47
00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,040
favor those that are the fittest
in that environment to
48
00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,600
reproduce, and mutation play a
role in bringing about change.
49
00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,760
Mutation can be caused by
external factors such as
50
00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200
radiation, as well as other
causes.
51
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,560
Mutation can be beneficial to
the survival of the species, or
52
00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,080
detrimental depending on what it
takes for its actual form.
53
00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,920
The question still arises as to
how this all occurs.
54
00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920
Shriorobindo has noted that
nothing can evolve that has not
55
00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480
been previously involved in
matter.
56
00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,880
This is akin to the encoding of
a data set within certain forms
57
00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,960
of matter such that it can
express life and under the right
58
00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,400
circumstances, in the correct
developed forms.
59
00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,840
The powers of mine.
In order to be involved,
60
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,800
however, they must come from
elsewhere, and for this we then
61
00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,880
have to appreciate the existence
of independent worlds or domains
62
00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,800
of life and mind that act within
their own sphere and which then
63
00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880
imprint impacts into the
material world.
64
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,720
There then comes about both the
possibility and the necessity of
65
00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,400
a dual action.
In order to create the world as
66
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,800
we know it, there needs to be
the internal pressure from
67
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,040
within to manifest the encoded
data, and there must be a
68
00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,920
pressure from the native planes,
which are the source of that
69
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,640
encoding, to support and further
that action when the time and
70
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,440
circumstances are favourable,
Shuyorobindo writes.
71
00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,920
Quote.
Our material world is the result
72
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,800
of all the others, for the other
principles have all descended
73
00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,880
into matter to create the
physical universe, and every
74
00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,120
particle of what we call matter
contains all of them implicit in
75
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,640
itself.
Their secret action is involved
76
00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,000
in every moment of its existence
and every movement of its
77
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,280
activity.
And as matter is the last word
78
00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:36,080
of the descent, so it is also
the first word of the ascent.
79
00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,040
As the powers of all these
planes, worlds, grades, degrees
80
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,960
are involved in the material
existence, so are they all
81
00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,880
capable of evolution out of it.
It is for this reason that
82
00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,720
material being does not begin
and end with gases and chemical
83
00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,960
compounds and physical forces
and movements with nebulae and
84
00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:06,600
Suns and earths, but evolves.
Life evolves, mind must evolve
85
00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,120
eventually.
Supermind and the higher degrees
86
00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:15,040
of the spiritual existence.
Evolution comes by the unceasing
87
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,160
pressure of the supra material
planes on the material,
88
00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320
compelling it to deliver out of
itself their principles and
89
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,160
powers, which might conceivably
otherwise have slept imprisoned
90
00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120
in the rigidity of the material
formula.
91
00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,520
This would Even so have been
improbable, since their presence
92
00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,200
there implies a purpose of
deliverance, but still this
93
00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,880
necessity from below is actually
very much aided by a kindred
94
00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,960
superior pressure.
End Quote.
95
00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:55,040
Reference Sri Aurobindo and the
Mother, The Hidden Forces of
96
00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,880
Life, Chapter 6.
Hidden Worlds and Evolutionary
97
00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,040
Forces, pages 146 to 147.
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