June 3, 2025
How to Deal With the Feeling of Unfitness for Spiritual Progress When It Arises in the Sadhana
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Looking from Within , Chapter 4, Ordeals and Difficulties, pg..96
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It is perhaps a virtually
universal experience.
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An individual takes up a
spiritual practice and for a
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time, particularly when Satwa is
in the forefront, he has unique
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insights, experiences and a
sense of progress.
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At some point, however, these
experiences tend to recede and
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the individual is left to
address the need for change in
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his physical, vital and mental
being.
8
00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,880
At that point, things become
more difficult, visible progress
9
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,880
is sometimes lacking, and
discouragement can set in.
10
00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,760
Milarepa, the renowned Yogi from
Tibet, got to the point of
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00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,240
despair, even to the extreme of
considering suicide as he felt
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00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,560
like he was unfit for the yogic
practices he sought, that he had
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00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,480
accumulated tremendous burdens
of sin and he was not succeeding
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00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040
in making progress in his path
towards liberation.
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While not everyone comes to the
point of suicidal thoughts, it
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is clearly a well known
experience to go through a dark
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night of the soul along the way.
The question then arises as to
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the cause and the solution of
this mood.
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First, one must be able to
separate oneself from the
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external being, that is, having
these thoughts and feelings.
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Once the standpoint of the
witness of the nature has been
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established, seeing and dealing
with these changes of mood and
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their consequences becomes much
simpler.
24
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The vital nature actually gets a
kind of perverse satisfaction
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from raising up these feelings,
as it draws attention and can
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actually be a form of vanity
which the ego personality
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accepts and flaunts.
It is then a seeking for
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attention and a form of drawing
energy from others to
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00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,600
commiserate and provide positive
support.
30
00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,840
The next step is to align
oneself with the part of the
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00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,480
being that has the aspiration
for the divine and the spiritual
32
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,200
growth.
This is the psychic being and
33
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,200
once one is established firmly
in this connection, the changing
34
00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,600
moods and feelings associated
with the modifications of the
35
00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760
three gunas become much less
bothersome.
36
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,920
This allows the Sodic to
experience peace and hold a
37
00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:35,800
smiling attitude towards all the
circumstances and vicissitudes
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of life, even while undergoing
challenges, facing obstacles and
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00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,960
dealing with these dark periods
that come along with any attempt
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00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,440
to address and effectuate
changes in human nature.
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Sri Orobindo notes quote.
Why do you indulge in these
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00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,840
exaggerated feelings of remorse
and despair?
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00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280
When these things come up from
the subconscious, they do not
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00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,720
help and make it more, not less,
difficult to eliminate what
45
00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,480
comes.
Such returns of an old nature
46
00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,600
that is long expelled from the
conscious parts of the being
47
00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,160
always happen in Sadhna.
It does not at all mean that the
48
00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,800
nature is unchangeable.
Try to recover the inner
49
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,240
quietude.
Draw back from these movements
50
00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,200
and look at them calmly,
reducing them to their true
51
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,440
proportions.
Your true nature is that in
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00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,080
which you have peace and ananda
and love of the Divine.
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This other is only a fringe of
the outer personality, which in
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00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,760
spite of these returns, is
destined to drop away as the
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00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440
true Being extends and
increases.
56
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,040
There's no reason to be so much
cut down or despair of your
57
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,400
progress.
Evidently you have had a surging
58
00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,400
up of the old movements, but
that can always happen so long
59
00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,160
as there is not an entire change
of the old nature, both in the
60
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200
consciousness and subconscious
parts.
61
00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,320
The one thing to do is to quiet
yourself and get back into the
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00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,880
true consciousness and poise.
End Quote Reference Sri Orobindo
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and the Mother Looking from
Within, Chapter 4, Ordeals and
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00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,840
Difficulties, page 96.
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,560
It is perhaps a virtually
universal experience.
2
00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,360
An individual takes up a
spiritual practice and for a
3
00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,520
time, particularly when Satwa is
in the forefront, he has unique
4
00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,240
insights, experiences and a
sense of progress.
5
00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,760
At some point, however, these
experiences tend to recede and
6
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,920
the individual is left to
address the need for change in
7
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680
his physical, vital and mental
being.
8
00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,880
At that point, things become
more difficult, visible progress
9
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,880
is sometimes lacking, and
discouragement can set in.
10
00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,760
Milarepa, the renowned Yogi from
Tibet, got to the point of
11
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,240
despair, even to the extreme of
considering suicide as he felt
12
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,560
like he was unfit for the yogic
practices he sought, that he had
13
00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,480
accumulated tremendous burdens
of sin and he was not succeeding
14
00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040
in making progress in his path
towards liberation.
15
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,560
While not everyone comes to the
point of suicidal thoughts, it
16
00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760
is clearly a well known
experience to go through a dark
17
00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,440
night of the soul along the way.
The question then arises as to
18
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,720
the cause and the solution of
this mood.
19
00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,520
First, one must be able to
separate oneself from the
20
00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760
external being, that is, having
these thoughts and feelings.
21
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,640
Once the standpoint of the
witness of the nature has been
22
00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,320
established, seeing and dealing
with these changes of mood and
23
00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:39,040
their consequences becomes much
simpler.
24
00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,000
The vital nature actually gets a
kind of perverse satisfaction
25
00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,400
from raising up these feelings,
as it draws attention and can
26
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,920
actually be a form of vanity
which the ego personality
27
00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,640
accepts and flaunts.
It is then a seeking for
28
00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,320
attention and a form of drawing
energy from others to
29
00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,600
commiserate and provide positive
support.
30
00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,840
The next step is to align
oneself with the part of the
31
00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,480
being that has the aspiration
for the divine and the spiritual
32
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,200
growth.
This is the psychic being and
33
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,200
once one is established firmly
in this connection, the changing
34
00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,600
moods and feelings associated
with the modifications of the
35
00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760
three gunas become much less
bothersome.
36
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,920
This allows the Sodic to
experience peace and hold a
37
00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:35,800
smiling attitude towards all the
circumstances and vicissitudes
38
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,800
of life, even while undergoing
challenges, facing obstacles and
39
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,960
dealing with these dark periods
that come along with any attempt
40
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,440
to address and effectuate
changes in human nature.
41
00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,800
Sri Orobindo notes quote.
Why do you indulge in these
42
00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,840
exaggerated feelings of remorse
and despair?
43
00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280
When these things come up from
the subconscious, they do not
44
00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,720
help and make it more, not less,
difficult to eliminate what
45
00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,480
comes.
Such returns of an old nature
46
00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,600
that is long expelled from the
conscious parts of the being
47
00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,160
always happen in Sadhna.
It does not at all mean that the
48
00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,800
nature is unchangeable.
Try to recover the inner
49
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,240
quietude.
Draw back from these movements
50
00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,200
and look at them calmly,
reducing them to their true
51
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,440
proportions.
Your true nature is that in
52
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,080
which you have peace and ananda
and love of the Divine.
53
00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,120
This other is only a fringe of
the outer personality, which in
54
00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,760
spite of these returns, is
destined to drop away as the
55
00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440
true Being extends and
increases.
56
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,040
There's no reason to be so much
cut down or despair of your
57
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,400
progress.
Evidently you have had a surging
58
00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,400
up of the old movements, but
that can always happen so long
59
00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,160
as there is not an entire change
of the old nature, both in the
60
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200
consciousness and subconscious
parts.
61
00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,320
The one thing to do is to quiet
yourself and get back into the
62
00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,880
true consciousness and poise.
End Quote Reference Sri Orobindo
63
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,120
and the Mother Looking from
Within, Chapter 4, Ordeals and
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00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,840
Difficulties, page 96.
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