April 24, 2025
How Do We Determine Our Destined Role in the World? -- Part 3
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Looking from Within, Chapter 3, Action and Work, pp. 58-61This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2025/04/22/how-do-we-determine-our-destined-role-in-the-world-part-3/
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Today's world provides people
with both an obstacle and an
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opportunity when they try to
follow their chosen or cherished
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path in life.
The obstacle is based on
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societal requirement that
individuals take up a productive
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form of work in the world to
earn enough money to support
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their needs for basic
necessities of life.
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In many cases, the skill set and
education or training simply is
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not available to them for the
jobs that are accessible to them
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00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,280
or else to obtain the necessary
skills and certifications.
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00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,960
The time and cost of acquisition
are beyond their means.
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00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,640
Thus, many people bemoan the
fact that they are stuck in a
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00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,960
dead end job which they do not
want, but have no choice in the
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00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,040
matter if they have to survive
or in some cases pay off their
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00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,680
bills or loans or maintain their
health insurance etcetera.
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00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,680
In other cases they get limited
support from their family or
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their society, but only if they
agree to follow a predestined
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path that may not actually suit
them.
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This occurs frequently in what
may be called a family business.
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The individual has no talent OR
interest in taking up the reins
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of the business, but is expected
to do so as the next generation
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00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,800
carries on what the previous
generation started.
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00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,440
Or the family puts pressure on
the individual to follow a
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career path that is at odds with
the natural interests, passions
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and skills of the individual and
only provides any support if the
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person suppresses his natural
inclinations and takes up the
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assigned role.
In some cases, the individual is
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able to pursue their vision or
dream concurrently with making
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their way on society.
They may find an educational
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path or career path that
supports what they are inwardly
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driven to undertake, and thus
they can combine their deepest
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aspirations with a systematic
approach within the societal
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framework.
At the same time, there are
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opportunities for individuals
who are willing or able to focus
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on their driving motivation to
find a way to create that future
35
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despite the obstacles.
They may temporarily take jobs
36
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while they prepare themselves
and position their future
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activities.
They may find alternative
38
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arrangements for living that
gives them the freedom to pursue
39
00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,200
their dreams.
They may join like minded people
40
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,200
if the goals and developmental
freedom align with their
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seeking.
Monasteries, ashrams, and
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00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,120
spiritual communities tend to
accept people who have a
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religious or spiritual aspect to
their seeking, although the
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00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,960
seeker must ordinarily align
with the lifestyle that goes
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along with that.
In some cultures, if an
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individual is willing to
sacrifice everything for a
47
00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,480
spiritual objective, they can
take up the life of a wandering
48
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mendicant and live a subsistence
life.
49
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,480
An interesting case occurred in
the life of Paramount's
50
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,200
Yogananda, as related in his
book Autobiography of a Yogi.
51
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He was driven from an early age
to take up the spiritual life
52
00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160
and tried to escape several
times from his family and school
53
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commitments to find his guru and
live in the Himalayas.
54
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Devoted to spiritual
realization.
55
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He eventually came in contact
with his guru, who insisted he
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complete his university studies.
He neglected the courses, but
57
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the guru insisted he sit for the
exams.
58
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His guide suggested he work with
a friend of his who was a solid
59
00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,840
student and that individual
tutored him so perfectly on the
60
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likely exam questions that he
was able to pass the exams and
61
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satisfy the demands of his
family and his guru that he get
62
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the benefit of both the
education and the degree which
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stood him in good stead in his
later life.
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Activities.
There are others who have a
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dream or vision and who are
willing to sacrifice outer
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comforts and security for
bringing that dream to life.
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In many cases, they get little
or no support until they have
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created something the society
finds valuable.
69
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This may take many years or even
decades.
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In some cases this catapults
them into the upper echelons of
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financial well-being.
In other cases, they become
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leaders, founders, researchers,
inventors, explorers,
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innovators, artists, or
musicians.
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They may gain recognition or
not, but they are able to
75
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develop the line of life that
they were clearly destined to
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follow.
In many cases, we see that their
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work is valued long after their
death.
78
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,360
Many people feel unfulfilled
because either fear or ambition
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00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:31,320
causes them to hold back or
overreach, and thus they wind up
80
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neither accomplishing their
cherished goal nor being
81
00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,240
satisfied with what they wind up
accepting in lieu of taking the
82
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chance and living their passion.
In some cases, they simply do
83
00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,320
not prepare the ground if their
vital nature is impatient and
84
00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,920
does not want to work out the
steps needed along the way.
85
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And then there is the Divine
grace.
86
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In some instances, an individual
with a deep aspiration can find
87
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doors opening, pathways laid out
before him, opportunities arise
88
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and circumstances favour a
direction that speaks to his
89
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deepest aspirations and allows
him to live a life that is both
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fulfilling and fulfilled in the
service of a greater purpose
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than his own personal needs or
desires.
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The mother notes quote, people
are often blamed for choosing an
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action for themselves which does
not correspond to their
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abilities.
There is a slight confusion
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here.
Those who freely set out to
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accomplish their own favorite
work cannot, in my opinion, be
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on the wrong track.
This work must surely be the
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expression of their own
particular tendency.
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But their mistake lies in
wanting to accomplish this work
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all at once, in its entirety, in
its integrality, in depth, and
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above all on the surface.
Forgetting that the very
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conception of the work is
imperfect as they are imperfect,
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and that to be wise they should
add to the knowledge of what
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they wish to do the more
immediate and practical
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knowledge of what they are
capable of doing at the present
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time.
By taking both these factors
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into account, they can employ
themselves with a minimum waste
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of time and energy.
But few people act with so much
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insight and wisdom, and it very
often happens that one who is
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seeking his way falls into one
of these two possible errors.
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Either he takes his desires for
realities, that is, he
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overestimates his present
strength and capacity and
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imagines that he is capable of
immediate assuming a role and a
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place which he can honorably
fulfill only after many years of
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methodical and persevering
effort.
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Or he underestimates his latent
powers and deliberately confines
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himself, in spite of his deeper
aspirations, to a task which is
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far beneath his abilities and
which will gradually extinguish
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within him the light that could
have shone for others.
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It seemed difficult at first to
steer clear of these pitfalls
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and find the balanced way, the
middle way.
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End Quote.
Reference.
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Sri Orovindo and the Mother,
Looking from within, Chapter 3.
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Action and Work, pages 58 to 61.
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Today's world provides people
with both an obstacle and an
2
00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,560
opportunity when they try to
follow their chosen or cherished
3
00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,920
path in life.
The obstacle is based on
4
00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,040
societal requirement that
individuals take up a productive
5
00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,040
form of work in the world to
earn enough money to support
6
00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,560
their needs for basic
necessities of life.
7
00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,320
In many cases, the skill set and
education or training simply is
8
00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,520
not available to them for the
jobs that are accessible to them
9
00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,280
or else to obtain the necessary
skills and certifications.
10
00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,960
The time and cost of acquisition
are beyond their means.
11
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,640
Thus, many people bemoan the
fact that they are stuck in a
12
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,960
dead end job which they do not
want, but have no choice in the
13
00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,040
matter if they have to survive
or in some cases pay off their
14
00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,680
bills or loans or maintain their
health insurance etcetera.
15
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,680
In other cases they get limited
support from their family or
16
00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,040
their society, but only if they
agree to follow a predestined
17
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,240
path that may not actually suit
them.
18
00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,800
This occurs frequently in what
may be called a family business.
19
00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:21,160
The individual has no talent OR
interest in taking up the reins
20
00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,960
of the business, but is expected
to do so as the next generation
21
00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,800
carries on what the previous
generation started.
22
00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,440
Or the family puts pressure on
the individual to follow a
23
00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,560
career path that is at odds with
the natural interests, passions
24
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,040
and skills of the individual and
only provides any support if the
25
00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,320
person suppresses his natural
inclinations and takes up the
26
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,640
assigned role.
In some cases, the individual is
27
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,960
able to pursue their vision or
dream concurrently with making
28
00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,920
their way on society.
They may find an educational
29
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,080
path or career path that
supports what they are inwardly
30
00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,919
driven to undertake, and thus
they can combine their deepest
31
00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,560
aspirations with a systematic
approach within the societal
32
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,280
framework.
At the same time, there are
33
00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,160
opportunities for individuals
who are willing or able to focus
34
00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,720
on their driving motivation to
find a way to create that future
35
00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,320
despite the obstacles.
They may temporarily take jobs
36
00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,120
while they prepare themselves
and position their future
37
00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,200
activities.
They may find alternative
38
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,360
arrangements for living that
gives them the freedom to pursue
39
00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,200
their dreams.
They may join like minded people
40
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,200
if the goals and developmental
freedom align with their
41
00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,800
seeking.
Monasteries, ashrams, and
42
00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,120
spiritual communities tend to
accept people who have a
43
00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,480
religious or spiritual aspect to
their seeking, although the
44
00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,960
seeker must ordinarily align
with the lifestyle that goes
45
00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,080
along with that.
In some cultures, if an
46
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,240
individual is willing to
sacrifice everything for a
47
00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,480
spiritual objective, they can
take up the life of a wandering
48
00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,680
mendicant and live a subsistence
life.
49
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,480
An interesting case occurred in
the life of Paramount's
50
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,200
Yogananda, as related in his
book Autobiography of a Yogi.
51
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,960
He was driven from an early age
to take up the spiritual life
52
00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160
and tried to escape several
times from his family and school
53
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,000
commitments to find his guru and
live in the Himalayas.
54
00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240
Devoted to spiritual
realization.
55
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,920
He eventually came in contact
with his guru, who insisted he
56
00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,400
complete his university studies.
He neglected the courses, but
57
00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,080
the guru insisted he sit for the
exams.
58
00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,600
His guide suggested he work with
a friend of his who was a solid
59
00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,840
student and that individual
tutored him so perfectly on the
60
00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,760
likely exam questions that he
was able to pass the exams and
61
00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,400
satisfy the demands of his
family and his guru that he get
62
00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,040
the benefit of both the
education and the degree which
63
00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,320
stood him in good stead in his
later life.
64
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,880
Activities.
There are others who have a
65
00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,280
dream or vision and who are
willing to sacrifice outer
66
00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:34,160
comforts and security for
bringing that dream to life.
67
00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,640
In many cases, they get little
or no support until they have
68
00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040
created something the society
finds valuable.
69
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,800
This may take many years or even
decades.
70
00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,760
In some cases this catapults
them into the upper echelons of
71
00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,240
financial well-being.
In other cases, they become
72
00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,160
leaders, founders, researchers,
inventors, explorers,
73
00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:03,680
innovators, artists, or
musicians.
74
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,840
They may gain recognition or
not, but they are able to
75
00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:12,080
develop the line of life that
they were clearly destined to
76
00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,240
follow.
In many cases, we see that their
77
00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,040
work is valued long after their
death.
78
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,360
Many people feel unfulfilled
because either fear or ambition
79
00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:31,320
causes them to hold back or
overreach, and thus they wind up
80
00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,160
neither accomplishing their
cherished goal nor being
81
00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,240
satisfied with what they wind up
accepting in lieu of taking the
82
00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,360
chance and living their passion.
In some cases, they simply do
83
00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,320
not prepare the ground if their
vital nature is impatient and
84
00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,920
does not want to work out the
steps needed along the way.
85
00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920
And then there is the Divine
grace.
86
00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,720
In some instances, an individual
with a deep aspiration can find
87
00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,360
doors opening, pathways laid out
before him, opportunities arise
88
00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,240
and circumstances favour a
direction that speaks to his
89
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,760
deepest aspirations and allows
him to live a life that is both
90
00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,720
fulfilling and fulfilled in the
service of a greater purpose
91
00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960
than his own personal needs or
desires.
92
00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,680
The mother notes quote, people
are often blamed for choosing an
93
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,560
action for themselves which does
not correspond to their
94
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,600
abilities.
There is a slight confusion
95
00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,840
here.
Those who freely set out to
96
00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:44,000
accomplish their own favorite
work cannot, in my opinion, be
97
00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,840
on the wrong track.
This work must surely be the
98
00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,560
expression of their own
particular tendency.
99
00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,360
But their mistake lies in
wanting to accomplish this work
100
00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,880
all at once, in its entirety, in
its integrality, in depth, and
101
00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,120
above all on the surface.
Forgetting that the very
102
00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,080
conception of the work is
imperfect as they are imperfect,
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and that to be wise they should
add to the knowledge of what
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they wish to do the more
immediate and practical
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knowledge of what they are
capable of doing at the present
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time.
By taking both these factors
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into account, they can employ
themselves with a minimum waste
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of time and energy.
But few people act with so much
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insight and wisdom, and it very
often happens that one who is
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seeking his way falls into one
of these two possible errors.
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Either he takes his desires for
realities, that is, he
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overestimates his present
strength and capacity and
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imagines that he is capable of
immediate assuming a role and a
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place which he can honorably
fulfill only after many years of
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methodical and persevering
effort.
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Or he underestimates his latent
powers and deliberately confines
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himself, in spite of his deeper
aspirations, to a task which is
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far beneath his abilities and
which will gradually extinguish
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within him the light that could
have shone for others.
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It seemed difficult at first to
steer clear of these pitfalls
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and find the balanced way, the
middle way.
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End Quote.
Reference.
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Sri Orovindo and the Mother,
Looking from within, Chapter 3.
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Action and Work, pages 58 to 61.
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