June 11, 2024
Experiencing and Understanding Infinite Worlds of Experience
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch. 5 Occult Forces, pg. 111 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/06/07/experiencing-and-understanding-infinite-worlds-of-experience/
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Scientists nowadays are Speaking
of infinite numbers of parallel
2
00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,040
universes, each one carrying out
some different choice that can
3
00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:15,080
be worked out.
Not every world is based on the
4
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,440
same set of factors and choices
as the world we currently
5
00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,600
inhabit.
There are also realms that are
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not physical in the sense of the
materiality of the existence,
7
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,280
but which are much more fluid,
vital domains or worlds of
8
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,920
mental formations that exist in
a space of pure mentality, et
9
00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,680
cetera.
Many people have a hard time
10
00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,760
separating themselves
sufficiently from the solidity
11
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,000
and reality of the physical
world to understand,
12
00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,080
acknowledge, and eventually
relate to other worlds or
13
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920
domains.
Yet we are clearly moving in the
14
00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,960
direction of gaining these
insights, both on the scientific
15
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,760
side, on the psychological side,
and among those who practice the
16
00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,960
science of consciousness through
yogic sadhna.
17
00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560
Over the last couple of 100
years, the Western science of
18
00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,640
psychology took up the study of
dreams and through the extensive
19
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,480
work carried out by Freud, links
and connections were made
20
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,600
between dream events and various
experiences in the world, past
21
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,680
traumas or events, etcetera.
However, this did not exhaust
22
00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,680
the subject and the work of CG.
Jung went further to determine
23
00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,240
that some dreams related to what
he called a collective
24
00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,880
unconscious, which is a separate
domain shared by the mental
25
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,760
vital space of humanity, not
specifically related to an
26
00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,480
individual's trauma or event
background.
27
00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,200
Some people reported various
forms of prophetic dreams and
28
00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,360
others reported entering into
other realms or worlds and
29
00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,320
interacting there.
Some people visited what has
30
00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,120
been called the Akashic Record
and found the history of
31
00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,800
humanity, past, present and
future available to them for
32
00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,920
review in the time they were
there.
33
00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,960
Others have received detailed
teachings from gurus, teachers,
34
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,760
or guides while in a type of
dream state while not in the
35
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,920
physical presence of those
teachers.
36
00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,560
There is such an enormous number
of potential experiences and
37
00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,320
they defy realistic description
to those who have not had those
38
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320
experiences.
Thus, the only way to truly
39
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,360
understand these other states of
awareness or other planes or
40
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,520
domains is to consciously take
up the study and begin to focus
41
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,240
on and relate to the experiences
one has and correlate them to
42
00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,040
those related by others or to
other experiences one has
43
00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,000
oneself.
In the end, the only true
44
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,600
knowledge in this realm is
knowledge through direct
45
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,600
experience and through identity
with the experienced state.
46
00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,640
When an individual takes up this
type of review, it is important
47
00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,040
to recognize that much of the
validity of the understanding
48
00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,280
must be based on the foundation
provided by the individual who
49
00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,840
is experiencing and reporting.
That is why an inner development
50
00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,000
is needed to ensure that the
results reported are not tainted
51
00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:44,760
by desire, greed, fear, vanity
or any other vital movement that
52
00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,640
can skew the results.
The mother notes quote.
53
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So it is difficult to speak of
all these worlds, these
54
00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,760
innumerable worlds, in a few
minutes.
55
00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,520
It is a knowledge which needs a
lived experience of many years,
56
00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,560
thoroughly systematic, and which
requires, as I said, an inner
57
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,520
preparation absolutely
indispensable to make it
58
00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,080
harmless.
We all get the chance to have a
59
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,360
little contact, very partial,
very superficial, with these
60
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,600
worlds in our dreams, and the
study of dreams itself already
61
00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,040
demands much time and care, and
in itself may constitute a
62
00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,360
preparation for a deeper study
of the invisible worlds.
63
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,400
End Quote reference Shrioro
Bindu and the Mother, The Hidden
64
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,760
Forces of Life, Chapter 5 Occult
Forces, page 111.
00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,280
Scientists nowadays are Speaking
of infinite numbers of parallel
2
00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,040
universes, each one carrying out
some different choice that can
3
00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:15,080
be worked out.
Not every world is based on the
4
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,440
same set of factors and choices
as the world we currently
5
00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,600
inhabit.
There are also realms that are
6
00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,240
not physical in the sense of the
materiality of the existence,
7
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,280
but which are much more fluid,
vital domains or worlds of
8
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,920
mental formations that exist in
a space of pure mentality, et
9
00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,680
cetera.
Many people have a hard time
10
00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,760
separating themselves
sufficiently from the solidity
11
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,000
and reality of the physical
world to understand,
12
00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,080
acknowledge, and eventually
relate to other worlds or
13
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920
domains.
Yet we are clearly moving in the
14
00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,960
direction of gaining these
insights, both on the scientific
15
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,760
side, on the psychological side,
and among those who practice the
16
00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,960
science of consciousness through
yogic sadhna.
17
00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560
Over the last couple of 100
years, the Western science of
18
00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,640
psychology took up the study of
dreams and through the extensive
19
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,480
work carried out by Freud, links
and connections were made
20
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,600
between dream events and various
experiences in the world, past
21
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,680
traumas or events, etcetera.
However, this did not exhaust
22
00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,680
the subject and the work of CG.
Jung went further to determine
23
00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,240
that some dreams related to what
he called a collective
24
00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,880
unconscious, which is a separate
domain shared by the mental
25
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,760
vital space of humanity, not
specifically related to an
26
00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,480
individual's trauma or event
background.
27
00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,200
Some people reported various
forms of prophetic dreams and
28
00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,360
others reported entering into
other realms or worlds and
29
00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,320
interacting there.
Some people visited what has
30
00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,120
been called the Akashic Record
and found the history of
31
00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,800
humanity, past, present and
future available to them for
32
00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,920
review in the time they were
there.
33
00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,960
Others have received detailed
teachings from gurus, teachers,
34
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,760
or guides while in a type of
dream state while not in the
35
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,920
physical presence of those
teachers.
36
00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,560
There is such an enormous number
of potential experiences and
37
00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,320
they defy realistic description
to those who have not had those
38
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320
experiences.
Thus, the only way to truly
39
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,360
understand these other states of
awareness or other planes or
40
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,520
domains is to consciously take
up the study and begin to focus
41
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,240
on and relate to the experiences
one has and correlate them to
42
00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,040
those related by others or to
other experiences one has
43
00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,000
oneself.
In the end, the only true
44
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,600
knowledge in this realm is
knowledge through direct
45
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,600
experience and through identity
with the experienced state.
46
00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,640
When an individual takes up this
type of review, it is important
47
00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,040
to recognize that much of the
validity of the understanding
48
00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,280
must be based on the foundation
provided by the individual who
49
00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,840
is experiencing and reporting.
That is why an inner development
50
00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,000
is needed to ensure that the
results reported are not tainted
51
00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:44,760
by desire, greed, fear, vanity
or any other vital movement that
52
00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,640
can skew the results.
The mother notes quote.
53
00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,160
So it is difficult to speak of
all these worlds, these
54
00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,760
innumerable worlds, in a few
minutes.
55
00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,520
It is a knowledge which needs a
lived experience of many years,
56
00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,560
thoroughly systematic, and which
requires, as I said, an inner
57
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,520
preparation absolutely
indispensable to make it
58
00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,080
harmless.
We all get the chance to have a
59
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,360
little contact, very partial,
very superficial, with these
60
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,600
worlds in our dreams, and the
study of dreams itself already
61
00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,040
demands much time and care, and
in itself may constitute a
62
00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,360
preparation for a deeper study
of the invisible worlds.
63
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,400
End Quote reference Shrioro
Bindu and the Mother, The Hidden
64
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,760
Forces of Life, Chapter 5 Occult
Forces, page 111.
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