Sept. 29, 2024
Effectuating the Formations of Imagination Over Time and Circumstance
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter III Imagination, pp. 32-33 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/09/25/effectuating-the-formations-of-imagination-over-time-and-circumstance/
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1
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Creating a detailed imagination
is the first step in a future
2
00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,640
realization.
The formation so devised will
3
00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,560
attempt to achieve its
actualization in the world, yet
4
00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,440
it must contend with the
readiness of the ground upon
5
00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,400
which it alights, the
preparation of the soil, the
6
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,440
proper support along the way,
and avoidance of those forces
7
00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,400
and influences which will tend
to either destroy, distract or
8
00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,000
delay its coming to fruition.
The formation struggles to
9
00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,520
survive, grow, thrive and bear
fruit.
10
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,880
It may take time.
The more far reaching the
11
00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,520
intended outcome, the longer it
may take.
12
00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960
Relatively simple desires may
not have much difficulty in
13
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440
manifesting.
It is similar to the way we
14
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,280
receive new ideas in our brains.
A neural pathway is developed,
15
00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,640
and it may take several
repetitions to fully form
16
00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,959
itself.
Once it is there, when the
17
00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,480
vibration rises, it can
immediately follow that pathway.
18
00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480
Something less common may take
some time to work out the
19
00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,840
situation, and as the mother
points out, most people have
20
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600
moved on from that formation by
the time it comes to fruition,
21
00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,080
and they are left dealing with
the fruits of a past action that
22
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160
they no longer really want to
taste.
23
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,120
If we leave behind, however, all
the purely personal desires and
24
00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,800
formations of imagination and
move toward the larger scope of
25
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,320
the evolutionary destiny of the
human race, we may consider that
26
00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:47,720
time, past habit, karmic
energetic flows, and
27
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:53,640
circumstances may throw up
obstacles or delays, and thus we
28
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,080
may not ourselves see the fruit
of the formation.
29
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,120
Rather, future generations will
benefit from its realization.
30
00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,560
Imagine, for instance, that we
can create a world of peace and
31
00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,280
harmony where all human beings
live with due care and
32
00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,960
consideration for all others,
and also in balance with the
33
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,800
world, environment, and the
other beings with whom we share
34
00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,120
the planet.
We do not let our personal
35
00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,880
greed, lust, or desires
intervene in this balance.
36
00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,240
We create economic and political
systems that carry out this
37
00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,600
intention so that we have no
cause for war, gang brutality,
38
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000
or anything that might cause
mass migrations.
39
00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,880
That we bring climate change
under control and thus reduce
40
00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,680
the spread of disease vectors
and reduce the intensity of
41
00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,440
destructive weather events.
Imagine a world that we can
42
00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,560
create, where art and music
thrive, where people do not have
43
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,680
to be enslaved their whole lives
simply to survive, but can
44
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,760
follow their ideals, their
dreams and their visions.
45
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,040
Such a world, you may say, is
not foreseeable in our immediate
46
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,040
future.
Yet there is no reason that
47
00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,320
given enough time and enough
powerful intention behind it,
48
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,440
provided by many people who seek
such a solution to the darkness
49
00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,440
and conflict we see in our
present world situation, that
50
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,480
such a result could not
eventuate.
51
00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:39,160
Maybe 102 hundred, 300 or 400
years represents the time frame
52
00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,560
necessary for the changes to
take hold and effectuate the
53
00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,280
foundation of such a world of
peace and harmony.
54
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,240
A disciple asks then is it
through imagination that one can
55
00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,800
realize desires or aspirations?
The mother responds, quote.
56
00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040
That means what exactly do you
want to say?
57
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,560
Imagining that the desire is
realized and in this way help
58
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,840
its realization?
Yes, certainly, quite certainly.
59
00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,640
And ideals also, the mother
replies, quote.
60
00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000
Only usually, Yes, almost
totally.
61
00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,080
What people don't have at their
disposal is the time it takes.
62
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,400
But for instance, if you have a
very powerful imagination and
63
00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,680
build up the realization of your
desire, build it up well with
64
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,320
all its details and everything,
like an admirably made formation
65
00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,240
existing in itself.
Totally, you see?
66
00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,240
Well, you may be sure that if
you live long enough, the thing
67
00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,520
will be realized.
It can be realized the next day,
68
00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:54,280
it can be realized the next
minute.
69
00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,240
It can take years, it can take
centuries, but it is sure to be
70
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,400
realized.
And then if to this imaginative
71
00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,080
power you add a kind of creative
vital strength, you make a very
72
00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,880
living force of it.
And as all living forces tend
73
00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,440
towards realization, it will put
a pressure upon terrestrial
74
00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,360
events in order to be able to
realize itself sooner.
75
00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,960
And it is realized only as I
said, there are two things.
76
00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:33,840
First, as regards desires,
personal circumstances 1 is not
77
00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,640
very persistent or very steady.
And after some time, what
78
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,360
interested you very strongly
doesn't interest you any longer.
79
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,240
You think of something else,
have another desire and make
80
00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640
another formation.
But now the first thing one
81
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,920
imagined is very well formed,
and after following its curve in
82
00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,000
space it is realized.
But by then the person has
83
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000
started another construction
because for some reason or
84
00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880
other, the thing doesn't
interest him anymore and he is
85
00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,720
face to face with the
realization of his first desire
86
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,280
while having already embarked
upon the second, the 3rd or the
87
00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,600
4th.
So he is absolutely annoyed.
88
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,000
But why?
I don't want this any longer?
89
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,960
Why does it come without his
being conscious that quite
90
00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,440
simply, it is the result of a
previous deed?
91
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,160
If, however, instead of being
desires, they are aspirations
92
00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,640
for spiritual things, and one
continues his line with a
93
00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,520
regular progress, then one is
absolutely sure to obtain one
94
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,040
day what he has imagined.
The day may be slightly far off
95
00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,760
if there are many obstacles on
the path.
96
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,520
For example, if the formation
that you have made is still very
97
00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,840
alien to the state of the earth
atmosphere, well, it takes some
98
00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:03,840
time to prepare the conditions
for its advent.
99
00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,160
But if it is something which has
already been realized several
100
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,200
times on earth and does not
imply too categorical a
101
00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,280
transformation, you may have it
quite quickly, provided that you
102
00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,440
follow the same line
persistently.
103
00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,320
And if you add to this the ardor
of a faith and trust in the
104
00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,000
divine grace, and that kind of
self giving to the grace which
105
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,600
makes you expect everything from
it, then it can become
106
00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440
tremendous.
You can see things being
107
00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,920
realized more and more, and the
most surprising ones can be
108
00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,680
realized one after another.
But for this there are
109
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,960
conditions to be fulfilled.
End Quote.
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00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,840
Reference Sri Orobindo and the
Mother Powers within, Chapter 3,
111
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080
Imagination, pages 32 to 33.
00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,800
Creating a detailed imagination
is the first step in a future
2
00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,640
realization.
The formation so devised will
3
00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,560
attempt to achieve its
actualization in the world, yet
4
00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,440
it must contend with the
readiness of the ground upon
5
00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,400
which it alights, the
preparation of the soil, the
6
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,440
proper support along the way,
and avoidance of those forces
7
00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,400
and influences which will tend
to either destroy, distract or
8
00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,000
delay its coming to fruition.
The formation struggles to
9
00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,520
survive, grow, thrive and bear
fruit.
10
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,880
It may take time.
The more far reaching the
11
00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,520
intended outcome, the longer it
may take.
12
00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960
Relatively simple desires may
not have much difficulty in
13
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440
manifesting.
It is similar to the way we
14
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,280
receive new ideas in our brains.
A neural pathway is developed,
15
00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,640
and it may take several
repetitions to fully form
16
00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,959
itself.
Once it is there, when the
17
00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,480
vibration rises, it can
immediately follow that pathway.
18
00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480
Something less common may take
some time to work out the
19
00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,840
situation, and as the mother
points out, most people have
20
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600
moved on from that formation by
the time it comes to fruition,
21
00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,080
and they are left dealing with
the fruits of a past action that
22
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160
they no longer really want to
taste.
23
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,120
If we leave behind, however, all
the purely personal desires and
24
00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,800
formations of imagination and
move toward the larger scope of
25
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,320
the evolutionary destiny of the
human race, we may consider that
26
00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:47,720
time, past habit, karmic
energetic flows, and
27
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:53,640
circumstances may throw up
obstacles or delays, and thus we
28
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,080
may not ourselves see the fruit
of the formation.
29
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,120
Rather, future generations will
benefit from its realization.
30
00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,560
Imagine, for instance, that we
can create a world of peace and
31
00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,280
harmony where all human beings
live with due care and
32
00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,960
consideration for all others,
and also in balance with the
33
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,800
world, environment, and the
other beings with whom we share
34
00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,120
the planet.
We do not let our personal
35
00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,880
greed, lust, or desires
intervene in this balance.
36
00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,240
We create economic and political
systems that carry out this
37
00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,600
intention so that we have no
cause for war, gang brutality,
38
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000
or anything that might cause
mass migrations.
39
00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,880
That we bring climate change
under control and thus reduce
40
00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,680
the spread of disease vectors
and reduce the intensity of
41
00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,440
destructive weather events.
Imagine a world that we can
42
00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,560
create, where art and music
thrive, where people do not have
43
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,680
to be enslaved their whole lives
simply to survive, but can
44
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,760
follow their ideals, their
dreams and their visions.
45
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,040
Such a world, you may say, is
not foreseeable in our immediate
46
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,040
future.
Yet there is no reason that
47
00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,320
given enough time and enough
powerful intention behind it,
48
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,440
provided by many people who seek
such a solution to the darkness
49
00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,440
and conflict we see in our
present world situation, that
50
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,480
such a result could not
eventuate.
51
00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:39,160
Maybe 102 hundred, 300 or 400
years represents the time frame
52
00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,560
necessary for the changes to
take hold and effectuate the
53
00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,280
foundation of such a world of
peace and harmony.
54
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,240
A disciple asks then is it
through imagination that one can
55
00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,800
realize desires or aspirations?
The mother responds, quote.
56
00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040
That means what exactly do you
want to say?
57
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,560
Imagining that the desire is
realized and in this way help
58
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,840
its realization?
Yes, certainly, quite certainly.
59
00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,640
And ideals also, the mother
replies, quote.
60
00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000
Only usually, Yes, almost
totally.
61
00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,080
What people don't have at their
disposal is the time it takes.
62
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,400
But for instance, if you have a
very powerful imagination and
63
00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,680
build up the realization of your
desire, build it up well with
64
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,320
all its details and everything,
like an admirably made formation
65
00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,240
existing in itself.
Totally, you see?
66
00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,240
Well, you may be sure that if
you live long enough, the thing
67
00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,520
will be realized.
It can be realized the next day,
68
00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:54,280
it can be realized the next
minute.
69
00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,240
It can take years, it can take
centuries, but it is sure to be
70
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,400
realized.
And then if to this imaginative
71
00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,080
power you add a kind of creative
vital strength, you make a very
72
00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,880
living force of it.
And as all living forces tend
73
00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,440
towards realization, it will put
a pressure upon terrestrial
74
00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,360
events in order to be able to
realize itself sooner.
75
00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,960
And it is realized only as I
said, there are two things.
76
00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:33,840
First, as regards desires,
personal circumstances 1 is not
77
00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,640
very persistent or very steady.
And after some time, what
78
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,360
interested you very strongly
doesn't interest you any longer.
79
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,240
You think of something else,
have another desire and make
80
00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640
another formation.
But now the first thing one
81
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,920
imagined is very well formed,
and after following its curve in
82
00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,000
space it is realized.
But by then the person has
83
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000
started another construction
because for some reason or
84
00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880
other, the thing doesn't
interest him anymore and he is
85
00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,720
face to face with the
realization of his first desire
86
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,280
while having already embarked
upon the second, the 3rd or the
87
00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,600
4th.
So he is absolutely annoyed.
88
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,000
But why?
I don't want this any longer?
89
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,960
Why does it come without his
being conscious that quite
90
00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,440
simply, it is the result of a
previous deed?
91
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,160
If, however, instead of being
desires, they are aspirations
92
00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,640
for spiritual things, and one
continues his line with a
93
00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,520
regular progress, then one is
absolutely sure to obtain one
94
00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,040
day what he has imagined.
The day may be slightly far off
95
00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,760
if there are many obstacles on
the path.
96
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,520
For example, if the formation
that you have made is still very
97
00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,840
alien to the state of the earth
atmosphere, well, it takes some
98
00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:03,840
time to prepare the conditions
for its advent.
99
00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,160
But if it is something which has
already been realized several
100
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,200
times on earth and does not
imply too categorical a
101
00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,280
transformation, you may have it
quite quickly, provided that you
102
00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,440
follow the same line
persistently.
103
00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,320
And if you add to this the ardor
of a faith and trust in the
104
00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,000
divine grace, and that kind of
self giving to the grace which
105
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,600
makes you expect everything from
it, then it can become
106
00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440
tremendous.
You can see things being
107
00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,920
realized more and more, and the
most surprising ones can be
108
00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,680
realized one after another.
But for this there are
109
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,960
conditions to be fulfilled.
End Quote.
110
00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,840
Reference Sri Orobindo and the
Mother Powers within, Chapter 3,
111
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080
Imagination, pages 32 to 33.
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