Aug. 14, 2024
Do We Create Our Own Thoughts and Feelings?
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YouTube reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch.8 Life — A Mass of Vibrations, pp. 180-181 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/08/09/do-we-create-our-own-thoughts-and-feelings/
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Tayar de Chardin described what
he called a nuosphere, a belt of
2
00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,560
mental energy that encompasses
the Earth and which moves
3
00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120
vibrations that can be perceived
at the mental level and
4
00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040
converted into thoughts and
thought forms.
5
00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560
This is similar to the biosphere
at the level of the life energy
6
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,000
and the ionosphere that protects
the planet through absorption
7
00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,960
and reflection of solar
radiation.
8
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,160
In our normal ego status, we
tend to attach to ourselves the
9
00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:38,840
thoughts and ideas and exertions
of willpower that we express.
10
00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:43,680
We take ownership of them and
say that they are my thoughts,
11
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,720
my ideas, my will.
If we look more closely at the
12
00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,080
situation, however, we can see
that we did not manufacture
13
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,880
these things from raw materials
or building blocks of thought,
14
00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,920
but actually received them from
the mental atmosphere,
15
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,000
internalized them, and then
rebroadcast them out while
16
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,880
overlooking or forgetting the
source from whence they came
17
00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,040
originally.
We sometimes wonder how a
18
00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,840
similar idea or invention can
develop in multiple places
19
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,920
around the world at virtually
the same time without active
20
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640
connection between the
individuals involved.
21
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,560
Once we see that these ideas are
available and can be received by
22
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,320
anyone with the receptivity and
preparation to work with them.
23
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000
In some cases, based on the
spirit of the times that
24
00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,120
prepares the mind to address
certain ideas that previously it
25
00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,440
was not prepared to entertain,
we can easily understand the
26
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,640
facts involved.
Similarly, there is a vital
27
00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,280
atmosphere that communicates
emotions and feelings which we
28
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,280
can receive and express without
necessarily understanding that
29
00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,920
they have come from outside,
vibrated within us, awakened a
30
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,759
corresponding vibration which we
then express as our own feeling
31
00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:12,760
or emotion.
The common thread here leads to
32
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,560
a new understanding.
Once we remove the ego
33
00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280
attachment from the center of
these phenomena.
34
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,440
We recognize then that we are
receiving and transmitting
35
00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:30,280
stations, not original sources
of thoughts, ideas, emotions, or
36
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,800
feelings.
A disciple asks, But then what
37
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,240
is mental and vital will?
The mother answers quote that is
38
00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,640
an expression of something which
is not personal.
39
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,240
If you analyze carefully, you
see, for instance, that all that
40
00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,000
you think has been thought by
others, that these are things
41
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,040
which circulate and pass through
you, but you have not produced
42
00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,840
this thought.
You are not the originator of
43
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880
this thought.
All your reactions come from
44
00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,920
atavism, from those who gave you
birth, and from the environment
45
00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,160
in which you have lived, from
all the impressions which have
46
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,640
accumulated in you and
constituted something which
47
00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:16,760
seems to you yourself, yet which
is not produced by you, but
48
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,320
merely felt and experienced.
You become aware of it in
49
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:27,080
passing, but is it is not you
who created it, not you who gave
50
00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280
it birth?
It could be said that these are
51
00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,960
like sounds, any kinds of
sounds, words, music, anything
52
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,720
recorded by an instrument then
reproduced by another instrument
53
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,760
which plays them back, like a
gramophone, for instance.
54
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,480
You wouldn't say that the
gramophone has created the
55
00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,800
sounds you hear, would you?
That would never occur to you.
56
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640
But as you are under the
illusion of your separate
57
00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,640
personality, these thoughts
which cross your mind and find
58
00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,320
expression, these feelings which
pass through your vital and find
59
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,480
expression, you think have come
from you, but nothing comes from
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00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,920
you.
Where is the you which can
61
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,160
create all that?
You must go deep, deep within
62
00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,480
and find the eternal essence of
your being to know the creative
63
00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,440
reality in yourself.
And once you have found that,
64
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,320
you will realize that it is one
single thing, the same in all
65
00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160
others.
And so where is your separate
66
00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,640
personality?
Nothing's left any longer.
67
00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,960
Yes, these are recording and
reproducing instruments, and
68
00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,800
they're always what might be
called distortions.
69
00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,520
They may be distortions for the
better, they may be distortions
70
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,600
for the worse, they may be
fairly great changes.
71
00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,680
The inner combinations are such
that things are not reproduced
72
00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,680
exactly as they pass from one to
the other, because the
73
00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,120
instrument is very complex, but
it is one in the same thing
74
00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,640
which is moved by a conscious
will quite independent of all
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00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,280
personal wills.
End Quote Reference Sri Robindo
76
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520
and the Mother, The Hidden
Forces of Life, Chapter Eight
77
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,160
Life, A Mass of Vibrations,
pages 180 to 181.
00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,680
Tayar de Chardin described what
he called a nuosphere, a belt of
2
00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,560
mental energy that encompasses
the Earth and which moves
3
00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120
vibrations that can be perceived
at the mental level and
4
00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040
converted into thoughts and
thought forms.
5
00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560
This is similar to the biosphere
at the level of the life energy
6
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,000
and the ionosphere that protects
the planet through absorption
7
00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,960
and reflection of solar
radiation.
8
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,160
In our normal ego status, we
tend to attach to ourselves the
9
00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:38,840
thoughts and ideas and exertions
of willpower that we express.
10
00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:43,680
We take ownership of them and
say that they are my thoughts,
11
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,720
my ideas, my will.
If we look more closely at the
12
00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,080
situation, however, we can see
that we did not manufacture
13
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,880
these things from raw materials
or building blocks of thought,
14
00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,920
but actually received them from
the mental atmosphere,
15
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,000
internalized them, and then
rebroadcast them out while
16
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,880
overlooking or forgetting the
source from whence they came
17
00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,040
originally.
We sometimes wonder how a
18
00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,840
similar idea or invention can
develop in multiple places
19
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,920
around the world at virtually
the same time without active
20
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640
connection between the
individuals involved.
21
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,560
Once we see that these ideas are
available and can be received by
22
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,320
anyone with the receptivity and
preparation to work with them.
23
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000
In some cases, based on the
spirit of the times that
24
00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,120
prepares the mind to address
certain ideas that previously it
25
00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,440
was not prepared to entertain,
we can easily understand the
26
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,640
facts involved.
Similarly, there is a vital
27
00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,280
atmosphere that communicates
emotions and feelings which we
28
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,280
can receive and express without
necessarily understanding that
29
00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,920
they have come from outside,
vibrated within us, awakened a
30
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,759
corresponding vibration which we
then express as our own feeling
31
00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:12,760
or emotion.
The common thread here leads to
32
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,560
a new understanding.
Once we remove the ego
33
00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280
attachment from the center of
these phenomena.
34
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,440
We recognize then that we are
receiving and transmitting
35
00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:30,280
stations, not original sources
of thoughts, ideas, emotions, or
36
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,800
feelings.
A disciple asks, But then what
37
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,240
is mental and vital will?
The mother answers quote that is
38
00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,640
an expression of something which
is not personal.
39
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,240
If you analyze carefully, you
see, for instance, that all that
40
00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,000
you think has been thought by
others, that these are things
41
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,040
which circulate and pass through
you, but you have not produced
42
00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,840
this thought.
You are not the originator of
43
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880
this thought.
All your reactions come from
44
00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,920
atavism, from those who gave you
birth, and from the environment
45
00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,160
in which you have lived, from
all the impressions which have
46
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,640
accumulated in you and
constituted something which
47
00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:16,760
seems to you yourself, yet which
is not produced by you, but
48
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,320
merely felt and experienced.
You become aware of it in
49
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:27,080
passing, but is it is not you
who created it, not you who gave
50
00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280
it birth?
It could be said that these are
51
00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,960
like sounds, any kinds of
sounds, words, music, anything
52
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,720
recorded by an instrument then
reproduced by another instrument
53
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,760
which plays them back, like a
gramophone, for instance.
54
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,480
You wouldn't say that the
gramophone has created the
55
00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,800
sounds you hear, would you?
That would never occur to you.
56
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640
But as you are under the
illusion of your separate
57
00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,640
personality, these thoughts
which cross your mind and find
58
00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,320
expression, these feelings which
pass through your vital and find
59
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,480
expression, you think have come
from you, but nothing comes from
60
00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,920
you.
Where is the you which can
61
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,160
create all that?
You must go deep, deep within
62
00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,480
and find the eternal essence of
your being to know the creative
63
00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,440
reality in yourself.
And once you have found that,
64
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,320
you will realize that it is one
single thing, the same in all
65
00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160
others.
And so where is your separate
66
00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,640
personality?
Nothing's left any longer.
67
00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,960
Yes, these are recording and
reproducing instruments, and
68
00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,800
they're always what might be
called distortions.
69
00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,520
They may be distortions for the
better, they may be distortions
70
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,600
for the worse, they may be
fairly great changes.
71
00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,680
The inner combinations are such
that things are not reproduced
72
00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,680
exactly as they pass from one to
the other, because the
73
00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,120
instrument is very complex, but
it is one in the same thing
74
00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,640
which is moved by a conscious
will quite independent of all
75
00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,280
personal wills.
End Quote Reference Sri Robindo
76
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520
and the Mother, The Hidden
Forces of Life, Chapter Eight
77
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,160
Life, A Mass of Vibrations,
pages 180 to 181.