Dec. 24, 2025
Distinguishing Vital or Mental Desire or Demand from Aspiration of the Psychic Being
reference: Sri Aurobindo, Bases of Yoga, Chapter 4, Desire — Food — Sex, pp. 62-63This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2025/12/22/distinguishing-vital-or-mental-desire-or-demand-from-aspiration-of-the-psychic-being/
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Desire can take many forms, some
of them subtle inasmuch as they
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are linked to prayer and thus
seem to confirm the aspiration.
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There's a subtle form of
bargaining that can take place,
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where the dedication of the
seeker is tied to the divine,
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providing a specific anticipated
form of realization, support, or
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result.
In some cases this is couched in
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such a way as to make it seem
that the bargaining is so that
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the individual can better carry
out the divine will as the
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individual understands it.
This is a form of desire that
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stems from the mental or vital
part of the nature, not directly
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from the soul or psychic being.
If we look carefully at the form
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that the aspiration or prayer
takes, it is actually not too
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difficult to distinguish those
that either originate in the
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mental or vital being, or which
are at least influenced and
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coloured by them.
The psychic formation of
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aspiration is pure, undemanding,
quiet and receptive and ready to
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give itself to the Divine
without preconditions.
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This implies that the seeker
also does not have expectation
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about a particular form, type or
time for a result to be given.
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The Divine acts according to his
own light and his own time, and
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the psychic being accepts that
without impatience, disturbance,
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or any loss of faith, Sri
Aurobindo notes quote, Demand
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and desire are only two
different aspects of the same
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thing.
Nor is it necessary that a
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feeling should be agitated or
restless to be a desire.
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It can be, On the contrary,
quietly fixed and persistent or
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persistently recurrent.
Demand or desire comes from the
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mental or the vital.
But a psychic or spiritual need
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is a different thing.
The psychic does not demand or
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desire it aspires.
It does not make conditions for
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its surrender or withdraw if its
aspiration is not immediately
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satisfied, for the psychic has
complete trust in the Divine or
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in the guru, and can wait for
the right time or the hour of
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the divine grace.
The psychic has an insistence of
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its own, but it puts its
pressure not on the divine, but
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on the Nature, placing a finger
of light on all the defects
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there that stand in the way of
the realization, sifting out all
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that is mixed, ignorant or
imperfect in the experience or
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in the movements of the Yoga,
and never satisfied with itself
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or with the nature till it has
got it perfectly open to the
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Divine, free from all forms of
ego, surrendered, simple and
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right in the attitude and all
the movements.
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This is what has to be
established entirely in the mind
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and vital and in the physical
consciousness before super
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mentalization of the whole
nature is possible.
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Otherwise what 1 gets is more or
less brilliant, half luminous,
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half cloudy illuminations and
experiences on the mental and
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vital and physical planes,
inspired either from some larger
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mind or larger vital, or at the
best from the mental reaches
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above the human that intervene
between the intellect and the
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overmind.
These can be very stimulating
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and satisfying up to a certain
point, and are good for those
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who want some spiritual
realization on these planes.
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But the Super mental realization
is something much more difficult
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and exacting in its conditions,
and the most difficult of all is
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to bring it down to the physical
level.
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End Quote.
Reference Sri Aurobindo, Bases
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of Yoga, Chapter 4 Desire food
Sex, pages 62 to 63.
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Desire can take many forms, some
of them subtle inasmuch as they
2
00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,880
are linked to prayer and thus
seem to confirm the aspiration.
3
00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520
There's a subtle form of
bargaining that can take place,
4
00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,880
where the dedication of the
seeker is tied to the divine,
5
00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,680
providing a specific anticipated
form of realization, support, or
6
00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,440
result.
In some cases this is couched in
7
00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,000
such a way as to make it seem
that the bargaining is so that
8
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,160
the individual can better carry
out the divine will as the
9
00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:40,400
individual understands it.
This is a form of desire that
10
00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,680
stems from the mental or vital
part of the nature, not directly
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00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,920
from the soul or psychic being.
If we look carefully at the form
12
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,880
that the aspiration or prayer
takes, it is actually not too
13
00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,680
difficult to distinguish those
that either originate in the
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00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,760
mental or vital being, or which
are at least influenced and
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00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,879
coloured by them.
The psychic formation of
16
00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:11,600
aspiration is pure, undemanding,
quiet and receptive and ready to
17
00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,440
give itself to the Divine
without preconditions.
18
00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,080
This implies that the seeker
also does not have expectation
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00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,520
about a particular form, type or
time for a result to be given.
20
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The Divine acts according to his
own light and his own time, and
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00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,640
the psychic being accepts that
without impatience, disturbance,
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or any loss of faith, Sri
Aurobindo notes quote, Demand
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and desire are only two
different aspects of the same
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thing.
Nor is it necessary that a
25
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,400
feeling should be agitated or
restless to be a desire.
26
00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,200
It can be, On the contrary,
quietly fixed and persistent or
27
00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,480
persistently recurrent.
Demand or desire comes from the
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00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,440
mental or the vital.
But a psychic or spiritual need
29
00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,720
is a different thing.
The psychic does not demand or
30
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,520
desire it aspires.
It does not make conditions for
31
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,360
its surrender or withdraw if its
aspiration is not immediately
32
00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,240
satisfied, for the psychic has
complete trust in the Divine or
33
00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,800
in the guru, and can wait for
the right time or the hour of
34
00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,880
the divine grace.
The psychic has an insistence of
35
00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,360
its own, but it puts its
pressure not on the divine, but
36
00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,280
on the Nature, placing a finger
of light on all the defects
37
00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,200
there that stand in the way of
the realization, sifting out all
38
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,000
that is mixed, ignorant or
imperfect in the experience or
39
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,480
in the movements of the Yoga,
and never satisfied with itself
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00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,040
or with the nature till it has
got it perfectly open to the
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00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,880
Divine, free from all forms of
ego, surrendered, simple and
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00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,040
right in the attitude and all
the movements.
43
00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,120
This is what has to be
established entirely in the mind
44
00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,720
and vital and in the physical
consciousness before super
45
00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,400
mentalization of the whole
nature is possible.
46
00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,320
Otherwise what 1 gets is more or
less brilliant, half luminous,
47
00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,280
half cloudy illuminations and
experiences on the mental and
48
00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,000
vital and physical planes,
inspired either from some larger
49
00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,120
mind or larger vital, or at the
best from the mental reaches
50
00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,200
above the human that intervene
between the intellect and the
51
00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,080
overmind.
These can be very stimulating
52
00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,040
and satisfying up to a certain
point, and are good for those
53
00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,360
who want some spiritual
realization on these planes.
54
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,200
But the Super mental realization
is something much more difficult
55
00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,440
and exacting in its conditions,
and the most difficult of all is
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to bring it down to the physical
level.
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End Quote.
Reference Sri Aurobindo, Bases
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of Yoga, Chapter 4 Desire food
Sex, pages 62 to 63.