May 16, 2024
Consciousness Pervades All Forms, Beings and Entities in the Universal Creation
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YouTube reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Ch. 4 Cosmic and Universal Forces, pp.84-86 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/05/13/consciousness-pervades-all-forms-beings-and-entities-in-the-universal-creation/
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1
00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,080
In his play Hamlet, William
Shakespeare comments on the
2
00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,240
limitations of the objective
mind and its ability to
3
00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,800
understand existence.
There are more things in heaven
4
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,480
and earth, Horatio, than are
dreamt of in your philosophy.
5
00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,120
Our mind's view of the existence
of the universe and its
6
00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,920
significance is blinded by our
reliance on what we can observe
7
00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,360
with our senses and our ability
to correctly organize and
8
00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,760
interpret what we perceive.
We thus believe that the
9
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,760
universe is some vast mechanical
location, and while material
10
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,200
energies are at work, it is a
vacant Dead Space without any
11
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,400
essential meaning other than as
the backdrop of our own lives on
12
00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,520
a minor planet in a minor solar
system, in a minor arm of a
13
00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,520
minor Galaxy in one corner of
the vast universe.
14
00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,800
Some modern thinkers have
alternatively likened the
15
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,480
universe to a type of hologram
within which we play act our
16
00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,360
existence.
In the Bhagwad Gita, Sri Krishna
17
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,440
describes for Arjuna the action
of the time spirit.
18
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,480
It is clear from his statement
that there is a pervasive,
19
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,720
active consciousness in the
universe that creates, guides,
20
00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,720
controls, and develops the
rolling out of the
21
00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,240
manifestation.
It is our limitation of
22
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,680
perception and understanding
that prevents us from
23
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,840
experiencing and interacting
with the consciousness
24
00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,680
throughout all forms, beings,
entities, and indeed the entire
25
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,320
universe in its own right.
In the Titeria Upanishad, there
26
00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,760
is a fascinating passage that
recounts levels of conscious
27
00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,440
awareness above that of the
human mind as it describes the
28
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,960
measure of bliss of each
successively more refined
29
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840
conscious being.
We term these beings with higher
30
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,720
levels of conscious awareness,
angelic beings, gods, demigods
31
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,200
or creators.
The Rigveda in Mandala 10, Sukta
32
00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,760
129 briefly describes the levels
of consciousness and their
33
00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,960
respective role in the creation.
There were castors of the seed,
34
00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:39,240
there were greatnesses, there
was self law below, there was
35
00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,680
will above.
A disciple asks is time only
36
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,600
subjective or it is something
concrete like a personality?
37
00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,400
The mother writes, quote all
forces are personal.
38
00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,240
All things in nature are
personal.
39
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280
But if we consider them as
impersonal things, our relation
40
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,160
with them is impersonal.
Take for instance what has just
41
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,160
happened.
If you are a meteorologist and
42
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,520
have calculated all the wind
currents and all that and say,
43
00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,480
given that this has happened,
that will happen and there will
44
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,720
be so many days of rain and all
that.
45
00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,200
So this is a force for you which
we are compelled to call a force
46
00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200
of nature.
And you can do nothing about it
47
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,440
except look on quietly and wait
for the number of days to pass.
48
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,760
But if it happens that you have
this personal relation with the
49
00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,040
little conscious entities which
are behind the wind, behind the
50
00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,440
storm, behind the rain, the
Thunder, behind all these
51
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,120
so-called forces of nature,
which are forces and personal
52
00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,280
forces.
If you have a personal relation
53
00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,000
with them and can create a kind
of friendship through this
54
00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,840
relation, instead of considering
them as enemies and inexorable
55
00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,960
mechanisms which you have to put
up with without being able to do
56
00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,680
anything, perhaps you could
manage to establish a slightly
57
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,880
more friendly relation and have
an influence over them and ask
58
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,720
them why do you feel like
blowing and making the rainfall,
59
00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,560
Why don't you do it elsewhere?
And with my own eyes I have
60
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:33,000
seen, I have seen this here,
seen it in France, seen it in
61
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,680
Algeria, the rain falling at a
particular altogether fixed
62
00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,080
place.
And it was actually exactly a
63
00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,200
place where it absolutely needed
to rain, because it was dry and
64
00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200
there was a field which needed
watering.
65
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,360
And at another place there was
at a distance from here to the
66
00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,440
end of the hall.
At the other place there was a
67
00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,600
small sunlit spot.
Everything was dry because to
68
00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,680
have the sun there was
necessary.
69
00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,960
Naturally, if you seek the
scientific point of view, they
70
00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,520
will explain this to you very
scientifically.
71
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,680
But I indeed have seen it as a
result of an intervention,
72
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,840
someone who knew how to ask it
and obtained it.
73
00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,440
In Algeria I saw not a few
things like that, very
74
00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,000
interesting ones.
And there just because there was
75
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,880
a certain atmosphere of a little
more real knowledge, it could be
76
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,480
said there were little entities
As for example entities which
77
00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,160
handled snow, you see, which
produce snow and which could
78
00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,440
come enter a room and tell
someone now snow should fall
79
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440
here.
It had never snowed in that
80
00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,320
country, never snow.
You are joking.
81
00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400
So near the Sahara it is going
to snow.
82
00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,040
It must because they have
planted fir trees on the
83
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000
mountain.
And when we see fir trees, we
84
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,960
come.
The fir trees are there to call
85
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200
us, so we come.
And so you see there was a
86
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200
discussion and the little being
went away with the permission to
87
00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,000
bring snow.
And when it had gone, there was
88
00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,000
a little pool of snow water on
the floor, melted snow which had
89
00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,560
turned into water.
It was physical and the mountain
90
00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,240
was covered with snow.
In Algeria, it is very near to
91
00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,120
Sahara.
You go down a few kilometers and
92
00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,040
you are at the Sahara.
Someone had playfully covered
93
00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,280
all the hills with fir trees.
The fir trees belong to cold
94
00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,760
countries.
Why do you call on us?
95
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,440
We are coming All This is a true
story.
96
00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,920
It is not an invention.
All depends on your relation.
97
00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,920
This too it is quite possible.
The meteorologist scholars would
98
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,760
have been able to explain.
I know nothing about it.
99
00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,680
They explain everything one
wants.
100
00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:13,880
End Quote Reference Shriorobindu
and the Mother, The Hidden
101
00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,560
Forces of Life, Chapter 4,
Cosmic and Universal Forces,
102
00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160
pages 84 to 86.
00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,080
In his play Hamlet, William
Shakespeare comments on the
2
00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,240
limitations of the objective
mind and its ability to
3
00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,800
understand existence.
There are more things in heaven
4
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,480
and earth, Horatio, than are
dreamt of in your philosophy.
5
00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,120
Our mind's view of the existence
of the universe and its
6
00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,920
significance is blinded by our
reliance on what we can observe
7
00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,360
with our senses and our ability
to correctly organize and
8
00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,760
interpret what we perceive.
We thus believe that the
9
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,760
universe is some vast mechanical
location, and while material
10
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,200
energies are at work, it is a
vacant Dead Space without any
11
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,400
essential meaning other than as
the backdrop of our own lives on
12
00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,520
a minor planet in a minor solar
system, in a minor arm of a
13
00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,520
minor Galaxy in one corner of
the vast universe.
14
00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,800
Some modern thinkers have
alternatively likened the
15
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,480
universe to a type of hologram
within which we play act our
16
00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,360
existence.
In the Bhagwad Gita, Sri Krishna
17
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,440
describes for Arjuna the action
of the time spirit.
18
00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,480
It is clear from his statement
that there is a pervasive,
19
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,720
active consciousness in the
universe that creates, guides,
20
00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,720
controls, and develops the
rolling out of the
21
00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,240
manifestation.
It is our limitation of
22
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,680
perception and understanding
that prevents us from
23
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,840
experiencing and interacting
with the consciousness
24
00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,680
throughout all forms, beings,
entities, and indeed the entire
25
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,320
universe in its own right.
In the Titeria Upanishad, there
26
00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,760
is a fascinating passage that
recounts levels of conscious
27
00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,440
awareness above that of the
human mind as it describes the
28
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,960
measure of bliss of each
successively more refined
29
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840
conscious being.
We term these beings with higher
30
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,720
levels of conscious awareness,
angelic beings, gods, demigods
31
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,200
or creators.
The Rigveda in Mandala 10, Sukta
32
00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,760
129 briefly describes the levels
of consciousness and their
33
00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,960
respective role in the creation.
There were castors of the seed,
34
00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:39,240
there were greatnesses, there
was self law below, there was
35
00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,680
will above.
A disciple asks is time only
36
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,600
subjective or it is something
concrete like a personality?
37
00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,400
The mother writes, quote all
forces are personal.
38
00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,240
All things in nature are
personal.
39
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280
But if we consider them as
impersonal things, our relation
40
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,160
with them is impersonal.
Take for instance what has just
41
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,160
happened.
If you are a meteorologist and
42
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,520
have calculated all the wind
currents and all that and say,
43
00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,480
given that this has happened,
that will happen and there will
44
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,720
be so many days of rain and all
that.
45
00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,200
So this is a force for you which
we are compelled to call a force
46
00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200
of nature.
And you can do nothing about it
47
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,440
except look on quietly and wait
for the number of days to pass.
48
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,760
But if it happens that you have
this personal relation with the
49
00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,040
little conscious entities which
are behind the wind, behind the
50
00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,440
storm, behind the rain, the
Thunder, behind all these
51
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,120
so-called forces of nature,
which are forces and personal
52
00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,280
forces.
If you have a personal relation
53
00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,000
with them and can create a kind
of friendship through this
54
00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,840
relation, instead of considering
them as enemies and inexorable
55
00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,960
mechanisms which you have to put
up with without being able to do
56
00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,680
anything, perhaps you could
manage to establish a slightly
57
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,880
more friendly relation and have
an influence over them and ask
58
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,720
them why do you feel like
blowing and making the rainfall,
59
00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,560
Why don't you do it elsewhere?
And with my own eyes I have
60
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:33,000
seen, I have seen this here,
seen it in France, seen it in
61
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,680
Algeria, the rain falling at a
particular altogether fixed
62
00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,080
place.
And it was actually exactly a
63
00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,200
place where it absolutely needed
to rain, because it was dry and
64
00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200
there was a field which needed
watering.
65
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,360
And at another place there was
at a distance from here to the
66
00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,440
end of the hall.
At the other place there was a
67
00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,600
small sunlit spot.
Everything was dry because to
68
00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,680
have the sun there was
necessary.
69
00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,960
Naturally, if you seek the
scientific point of view, they
70
00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,520
will explain this to you very
scientifically.
71
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,680
But I indeed have seen it as a
result of an intervention,
72
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,840
someone who knew how to ask it
and obtained it.
73
00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,440
In Algeria I saw not a few
things like that, very
74
00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,000
interesting ones.
And there just because there was
75
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,880
a certain atmosphere of a little
more real knowledge, it could be
76
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,480
said there were little entities
As for example entities which
77
00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,160
handled snow, you see, which
produce snow and which could
78
00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,440
come enter a room and tell
someone now snow should fall
79
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440
here.
It had never snowed in that
80
00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,320
country, never snow.
You are joking.
81
00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400
So near the Sahara it is going
to snow.
82
00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,040
It must because they have
planted fir trees on the
83
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000
mountain.
And when we see fir trees, we
84
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,960
come.
The fir trees are there to call
85
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200
us, so we come.
And so you see there was a
86
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200
discussion and the little being
went away with the permission to
87
00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,000
bring snow.
And when it had gone, there was
88
00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,000
a little pool of snow water on
the floor, melted snow which had
89
00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,560
turned into water.
It was physical and the mountain
90
00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,240
was covered with snow.
In Algeria, it is very near to
91
00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,120
Sahara.
You go down a few kilometers and
92
00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,040
you are at the Sahara.
Someone had playfully covered
93
00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,280
all the hills with fir trees.
The fir trees belong to cold
94
00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,760
countries.
Why do you call on us?
95
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,440
We are coming All This is a true
story.
96
00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,920
It is not an invention.
All depends on your relation.
97
00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,920
This too it is quite possible.
The meteorologist scholars would
98
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,760
have been able to explain.
I know nothing about it.
99
00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,680
They explain everything one
wants.
100
00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:13,880
End Quote Reference Shriorobindu
and the Mother, The Hidden
101
00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,560
Forces of Life, Chapter 4,
Cosmic and Universal Forces,
102
00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160
pages 84 to 86.