Dec. 23, 2022
Aspiration and Prayer
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2022/12/21/aspiration-and-prayer/
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Many people confuse aspiration
with prayer, they are however,
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actually two different things
and while they may support one
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another, when they align, it is
not necessary that aspiration
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lead to prayer.
Aspiration refers to the inner
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State of Consciousness that
arises from the psychic being in
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a spontaneous movement of
directed focus on some form of
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growth development or
realization aspiration does not
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require belief in a supreme
deity.
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Although again, it may coincide
with such a belief prayer.
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On the other hand requires
belief in some being person or
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entity to which one offers the
prayer in most cases, prayer is
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connected to the ego,
particularly when it is asking
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for some specific result.
Prayer may be formulated in such
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a way to minimize the ego
involvement, but by its very
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nature, the individual is
creating by prayer, a
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relationship to a greater being
and asking for some type of
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result to occur.
A disciple asks, what is the
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difference between prayer and
aspiration?
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The mother replies.
Quote prayer is a much more
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external thing generally about a
precise fact.
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And always formulated for it is
the formula that makes the
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prayer.
One may have an aspiration and
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transcribe it as a prayer, but
aspiration goes beyond prayer in
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every way.
It is much closer and much more
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as it were self forgetful living
only in the thing.
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One wants to be or do and the
offering of all that one wants
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to do to the divine to be
clearer.
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We may say that prayer is always
formulated in words, but the
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words may have different values
according to the state in which
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they are formulated.
Prayer is a formulated thing and
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one may Aspire, but it is
difficult to pray without
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praying to someone.
For instance, those who have a
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conception of the Universe from
which they have more, or less
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driven out.
The idea of the Divine, there
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are many people of this kind,
this idea, troubles them, the
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idea that there is someone who
knows all can do everything and
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who is so formidable e greater
than they that there can be no.
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Comparison.
That's a bit Troublesome for
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their, a more appropriate.
So they try to make a world
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without the divine These people
evidently cannot pray for to
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whom, would they pray unless
they pray to themselves?
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Which is not the custom, but one
can Aspire for something without
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having any faith in the Divine.
There are people who do not
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believe in the existence of a
God, but who have faith in
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progress, they have the idea
that the world is in constant
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progress and that this progress
will go on indefinitely without
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stopping towards an Ever
greater.
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Your betterment.
Well, these people can have a
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very great aspiration for
progress, and they don't even
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need any idea of a Divine
existence for that aspiration,
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necessarily implies the faith,
but not necessarily faith in the
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Divine being whilst prayer
cannot exist.
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If it is not addressed to a
Divine being And pray to what
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one does not pray to something
that has no personality.
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When praise to someone who can
hear us.
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If there is nobody to hear us.
How could one pray?
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Hence, if one prays this means
that even when one doesn't
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acknowledge it, when has faith
in somebody infinitely, higher
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than us infinitely, more
powerful, who can change our
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destiny, and change as also, if
one prays.
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So as to be heard that is the
essential difference in quote,
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reference SRI aurobindo, and the
mother growing within the
63
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psychology of inner development.
Chapter 3.
64
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Growth of Consciousness.
Basic requisites Pages, 36 to 37
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Many people confuse aspiration
with prayer, they are however,
2
00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,400
actually two different things
and while they may support one
3
00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,700
another, when they align, it is
not necessary that aspiration
4
00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:20,900
lead to prayer.
Aspiration refers to the inner
5
00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:25,300
State of Consciousness that
arises from the psychic being in
6
00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:29,200
a spontaneous movement of
directed focus on some form of
7
00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,900
growth development or
realization aspiration does not
8
00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:37,400
require belief in a supreme
deity.
9
00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:43,500
Although again, it may coincide
with such a belief prayer.
10
00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:48,000
On the other hand requires
belief in some being person or
11
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,500
entity to which one offers the
prayer in most cases, prayer is
12
00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,000
connected to the ego,
particularly when it is asking
13
00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,400
for some specific result.
Prayer may be formulated in such
14
00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,500
a way to minimize the ego
involvement, but by its very
15
00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:11,300
nature, the individual is
creating by prayer, a
16
00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:16,300
relationship to a greater being
and asking for some type of
17
00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:21,700
result to occur.
A disciple asks, what is the
18
00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:24,200
difference between prayer and
aspiration?
19
00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:29,600
The mother replies.
Quote prayer is a much more
20
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,000
external thing generally about a
precise fact.
21
00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:38,500
And always formulated for it is
the formula that makes the
22
00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:42,500
prayer.
One may have an aspiration and
23
00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:47,000
transcribe it as a prayer, but
aspiration goes beyond prayer in
24
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,700
every way.
It is much closer and much more
25
00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,800
as it were self forgetful living
only in the thing.
26
00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,400
One wants to be or do and the
offering of all that one wants
27
00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,700
to do to the divine to be
clearer.
28
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,699
We may say that prayer is always
formulated in words, but the
29
00:02:08,699 --> 00:02:12,100
words may have different values
according to the state in which
30
00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,900
they are formulated.
Prayer is a formulated thing and
31
00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:21,000
one may Aspire, but it is
difficult to pray without
32
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000
praying to someone.
For instance, those who have a
33
00:02:25,008 --> 00:02:28,200
conception of the Universe from
which they have more, or less
34
00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,800
driven out.
The idea of the Divine, there
35
00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,600
are many people of this kind,
this idea, troubles them, the
36
00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,000
idea that there is someone who
knows all can do everything and
37
00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,100
who is so formidable e greater
than they that there can be no.
38
00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:47,900
Comparison.
That's a bit Troublesome for
39
00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:51,900
their, a more appropriate.
So they try to make a world
40
00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:57,100
without the divine These people
evidently cannot pray for to
41
00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:00,900
whom, would they pray unless
they pray to themselves?
42
00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:05,600
Which is not the custom, but one
can Aspire for something without
43
00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,400
having any faith in the Divine.
There are people who do not
44
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400
believe in the existence of a
God, but who have faith in
45
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,600
progress, they have the idea
that the world is in constant
46
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,300
progress and that this progress
will go on indefinitely without
47
00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:23,700
stopping towards an Ever
greater.
48
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400
Your betterment.
Well, these people can have a
49
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,300
very great aspiration for
progress, and they don't even
50
00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:37,500
need any idea of a Divine
existence for that aspiration,
51
00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:42,400
necessarily implies the faith,
but not necessarily faith in the
52
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,500
Divine being whilst prayer
cannot exist.
53
00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:51,200
If it is not addressed to a
Divine being And pray to what
54
00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,800
one does not pray to something
that has no personality.
55
00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:58,000
When praise to someone who can
hear us.
56
00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:01,600
If there is nobody to hear us.
How could one pray?
57
00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:06,600
Hence, if one prays this means
that even when one doesn't
58
00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,900
acknowledge it, when has faith
in somebody infinitely, higher
59
00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:15,100
than us infinitely, more
powerful, who can change our
60
00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:19,399
destiny, and change as also, if
one prays.
61
00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:24,100
So as to be heard that is the
essential difference in quote,
62
00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,200
reference SRI aurobindo, and the
mother growing within the
63
00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,600
psychology of inner development.
Chapter 3.
64
00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:37,300
Growth of Consciousness.
Basic requisites Pages, 36 to 37
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