March 30, 2023
Addressing Alternations in Spiritual Progress Over Time
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/addressing-alternations-in-spiritual-progress-over-time/
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When milarepa approached marpa
requesting Liberation in one
2
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,900
lifetime, he was haunted by the
misdeeds.
3
00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:15,600
He recognized in his own recent
past and the harm, he had caused
4
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,300
many people, he had Justified
the harm based on the misdeeds
5
00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:22,500
of those individuals towards his
family.
6
00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:27,500
But eventually he understood
that his own fate was on the
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00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:33,100
line instead of granting him the
teachings marpa set him to work
8
00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:37,400
with hard physical labor for an
extended period of time.
9
00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:42,400
What thoughts were going through
Miller up his mind as he carried
10
00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,600
out the seemingly.
Meaningless back-breaking work.
11
00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:51,600
He eventually broke down with a
fit of Despair and felt like
12
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,600
there was no way he can go on
any longer and it was only after
13
00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200
that occurred that the teachings
were granted to him.
14
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,300
This illustrates just one of the
various potential causes for an
15
00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,100
apparently empty period for the
spiritual Seeker.
16
00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,600
When the youth, whose tale was
told in the upanishads was given
17
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,200
several cattle and told by the
teacher to take them into the
18
00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,400
forest and create a massive herd
of cattle in order to get the
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00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,900
teachings.
You did not despair despite an
20
00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:32,500
obviously long period of effort
and physical privation.
21
00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:36,800
And the need to overcome the
difficulties of living in the
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00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,300
forest caring for and raising a
large herd of of cattle and
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00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:45,600
learning how to deal with all
the external circumstances that
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00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,300
could have sidetracked his
effort.
25
00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:54,400
Instead of meditation, he had to
herd cows for years.
26
00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,000
He clearly reached out for the
teacher initially due to some
27
00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,400
intense inward calling, which
Drew him away from family
28
00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:10,500
friends and the life in society.
While most speakers do not have
29
00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:14,000
such a pressure or such an
intense background, that
30
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,700
motivates them to take up
spiritual practice, they
31
00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:22,500
nevertheless undergo periods of
time where nothing is seemingly
32
00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:25,900
taking place.
And if this occurs after a
33
00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:29,000
particularly fruitful time of
opening and growth of
34
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,400
Consciousness, they feel the
lack very acutely.
35
00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,500
Spiritual Seekers who are
various experiences all find
36
00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,600
that at some point.
The headline experience,
37
00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,000
recedes, and they are left with
dealing with the difficulties
38
00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:50,500
and obstacles of their nature or
the pressures placed by the
39
00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:53,900
outer world with which they have
to interact.
40
00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,800
There are always significant
reasons why these alternations
41
00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,100
take place and SRI aurobindo
describes several of them and
42
00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:06,900
advises on the proper attitude
to work ones.
43
00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:12,100
Way through these difficult
periods of time SRI aurobindo
44
00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:16,900
observes, quote, the reason why
there are these alternations of
45
00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:20,100
which you complain is that the
nature of the Consciousness is
46
00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:25,100
like that.
After a spell of wakefulness it
47
00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:29,500
feels the need of a little sleep
very often in the beginning.
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The wakings our brief the sleeps
long afterwards, it becomes more
49
00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,800
equal and later on the Sleep
periods are shorter and shorter.
50
00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000
Another cause of these
alternations when one is
51
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,400
receiving is the Nature's need
of closing up to a simile.
52
00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:53,300
It can take perhaps a great
deal, but while the experience
53
00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,800
is going on, it cannot absorb
properly.
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What it brings so it closes down
for a simulation.
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A third cause comes in the
period of transformation.
56
00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:09,600
One part of the nature changes
and one feels for a time as if
57
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,600
there had been a complete and
permanent change but one is
58
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,800
disappointed to find it cease
and a period of baroness or
59
00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,500
lowered Consciousness follow
this is because another part of
60
00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:27,100
the Consciousness comes up for
Change and a period of
61
00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:32,200
preparation and veiled working
follows which seems to be one of
62
00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,700
unon latent or Worse.
These things alarm disappoint or
63
00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:41,000
perplex.
The eagerness and impatience of
64
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,700
the Sadiq, but if one takes them
quietly and knows how to use
65
00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:51,500
them, or adopt, the right
attitude, one can make these
66
00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:56,000
unenlightened periods.
Also, a part of the conscious
67
00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,800
sadhna.
And quote, reference SRI
68
00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,600
aurobindo, and the mother
growing within the psychology of
69
00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,500
inner development.
Chapter 6 growth of
70
00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,900
Consciousness difficulties and
pitfalls page 121
00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:06,800
When milarepa approached marpa
requesting Liberation in one
2
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,900
lifetime, he was haunted by the
misdeeds.
3
00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:15,600
He recognized in his own recent
past and the harm, he had caused
4
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,300
many people, he had Justified
the harm based on the misdeeds
5
00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:22,500
of those individuals towards his
family.
6
00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:27,500
But eventually he understood
that his own fate was on the
7
00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:33,100
line instead of granting him the
teachings marpa set him to work
8
00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:37,400
with hard physical labor for an
extended period of time.
9
00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:42,400
What thoughts were going through
Miller up his mind as he carried
10
00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,600
out the seemingly.
Meaningless back-breaking work.
11
00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:51,600
He eventually broke down with a
fit of Despair and felt like
12
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,600
there was no way he can go on
any longer and it was only after
13
00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200
that occurred that the teachings
were granted to him.
14
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,300
This illustrates just one of the
various potential causes for an
15
00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,100
apparently empty period for the
spiritual Seeker.
16
00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,600
When the youth, whose tale was
told in the upanishads was given
17
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,200
several cattle and told by the
teacher to take them into the
18
00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,400
forest and create a massive herd
of cattle in order to get the
19
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,900
teachings.
You did not despair despite an
20
00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:32,500
obviously long period of effort
and physical privation.
21
00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:36,800
And the need to overcome the
difficulties of living in the
22
00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,300
forest caring for and raising a
large herd of of cattle and
23
00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:45,600
learning how to deal with all
the external circumstances that
24
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,300
could have sidetracked his
effort.
25
00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:54,400
Instead of meditation, he had to
herd cows for years.
26
00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,000
He clearly reached out for the
teacher initially due to some
27
00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,400
intense inward calling, which
Drew him away from family
28
00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:10,500
friends and the life in society.
While most speakers do not have
29
00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:14,000
such a pressure or such an
intense background, that
30
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,700
motivates them to take up
spiritual practice, they
31
00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:22,500
nevertheless undergo periods of
time where nothing is seemingly
32
00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:25,900
taking place.
And if this occurs after a
33
00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:29,000
particularly fruitful time of
opening and growth of
34
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,400
Consciousness, they feel the
lack very acutely.
35
00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,500
Spiritual Seekers who are
various experiences all find
36
00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,600
that at some point.
The headline experience,
37
00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,000
recedes, and they are left with
dealing with the difficulties
38
00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:50,500
and obstacles of their nature or
the pressures placed by the
39
00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:53,900
outer world with which they have
to interact.
40
00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:58,800
There are always significant
reasons why these alternations
41
00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,100
take place and SRI aurobindo
describes several of them and
42
00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:06,900
advises on the proper attitude
to work ones.
43
00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:12,100
Way through these difficult
periods of time SRI aurobindo
44
00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:16,900
observes, quote, the reason why
there are these alternations of
45
00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:20,100
which you complain is that the
nature of the Consciousness is
46
00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:25,100
like that.
After a spell of wakefulness it
47
00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:29,500
feels the need of a little sleep
very often in the beginning.
48
00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:34,600
The wakings our brief the sleeps
long afterwards, it becomes more
49
00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,800
equal and later on the Sleep
periods are shorter and shorter.
50
00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000
Another cause of these
alternations when one is
51
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,400
receiving is the Nature's need
of closing up to a simile.
52
00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:53,300
It can take perhaps a great
deal, but while the experience
53
00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,800
is going on, it cannot absorb
properly.
54
00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,800
What it brings so it closes down
for a simulation.
55
00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,000
A third cause comes in the
period of transformation.
56
00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:09,600
One part of the nature changes
and one feels for a time as if
57
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,600
there had been a complete and
permanent change but one is
58
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,800
disappointed to find it cease
and a period of baroness or
59
00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,500
lowered Consciousness follow
this is because another part of
60
00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:27,100
the Consciousness comes up for
Change and a period of
61
00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:32,200
preparation and veiled working
follows which seems to be one of
62
00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,700
unon latent or Worse.
These things alarm disappoint or
63
00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:41,000
perplex.
The eagerness and impatience of
64
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,700
the Sadiq, but if one takes them
quietly and knows how to use
65
00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:51,500
them, or adopt, the right
attitude, one can make these
66
00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:56,000
unenlightened periods.
Also, a part of the conscious
67
00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,800
sadhna.
And quote, reference SRI
68
00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,600
aurobindo, and the mother
growing within the psychology of
69
00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,500
inner development.
Chapter 6 growth of
70
00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,900
Consciousness difficulties and
pitfalls page 121
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