July 25, 2025
A True Measure of Faith
reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Looking from Within, Chapter 5, Attitudes on the Path, pp. 134-135This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2025/07/23/a-true-measure-of-faith/
Video presentations, interviews and podcast episodes are allavailable on the YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@santoshkrinsky871
More information about Sri Aurobindo can be found at www.aurobindo.net
The US editions and links to e-book editions of SriAurobindo’s writings can be found at Lotus Press www.lotuspress.com
1
00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,760
When an individual takes up the
spiritual path, he normally
2
00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,840
starts by desiring peace,
knowledge, power or some kind of
3
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,080
solace or comfort.
But what if he is actually faced
4
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,640
with an unending series of
obstacles, challenges, threats
5
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,120
and various forms of physical,
vital or mental suffering?
6
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,120
In such a case, does he maintain
his complete faith in the divine
7
00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,840
or does he begin to doubt the
Divine, the truth, the path, the
8
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,120
teaching or his own abilities to
follow it?
9
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,960
Tibet's great Yogi Milarepa
suffered from doubts as he was
10
00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,960
given hard back breaking work
that seemed meaningless, while
11
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,560
his guru gave the teachings to a
number of others without that
12
00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,800
demand.
He reached a breaking point but
13
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,880
persevered, maintained his faith
even if by a thread, and
14
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,840
eventually obtained the
teachings and the realization
15
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:12,800
that comes from practising them.
Complete faith implies complete
16
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,600
acceptance.
If we demand peace or serenity
17
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,160
or some other form of solace
from the Divine, we are
18
00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,120
bargaining, and our faith is
conditional, not absolute.
19
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,040
If we are here not for personal
experiences of peace or bliss,
20
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,280
but to participate in the great
transition to the next stage of
21
00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,880
conscious evolution, we have to
expect that the path is 1 of
22
00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,360
confronting the obstacles,
difficulties, nots, vital
23
00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,960
resistances, mental opposition,
and physical weaknesses along
24
00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,400
the way.
This is not then a path of
25
00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,240
retreat, but a path filled with
difficulties that must be faced
26
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,400
and resolved for that next
evolutionary principle to
27
00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,960
manifest.
In such a case, the existence of
28
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840
these challenges is not only
part of the path, but
29
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,680
essentially the path itself.
The faith lies then, in
30
00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,600
accepting that this is the way,
and that the Divine has given
31
00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,600
each individual who accepts this
program within himself the exact
32
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,160
challenges and issues he is both
meant to confront and eventually
33
00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,320
to resolve and overcome for the
general development of
34
00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,520
consciousness.
A disciple asks, Can't trust be
35
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,280
total and entire?
The Mother responds quote.
36
00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680
Not necessarily.
Well, there is a shade of
37
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,480
difference, however, I don't
know.
38
00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,480
It is not the same thing.
One has given oneself totally to
39
00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880
the divine work.
One has faith in it, not only in
40
00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,480
its possibility, but faith that
it is the thing which is true
41
00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,360
and which must be.
And one gives oneself entirely
42
00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480
to it without asking what will
happen.
43
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,680
And so therein or thereon may be
grafted a certitude, a
44
00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,760
confidence that one is capable
of accomplishing it, that is, of
45
00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,640
participating in it and doing it
because one has given oneself to
46
00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,800
it.
A confidence that what 1 is
47
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,360
going to do, what one wants to
do, one will be able to do.
48
00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640
That this realization one wants
to attain, one will attain.
49
00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,200
The first does not put any
questions, does not think of the
50
00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,800
results.
It gives itself entirely.
51
00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,520
It gives itself and then that's
all it is, something that
52
00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,400
absorbs 1 completely.
The other may be grafted upon
53
00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,200
it.
Confidence says yes, I shall
54
00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840
participate, realize what I want
to realize.
55
00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,960
I shall surely take part in this
work for the other.
56
00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,880
One has faith in the Divine,
that it is the Divine who is all
57
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,440
and can do all and does all, and
who is the only real existence.
58
00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,240
And one gives oneself entirely
to this faith, to the Divine.
59
00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,600
That's all.
One has faith in the existence
60
00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,800
of the Divine and gives oneself.
And there can also be grafted
61
00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,560
upon this a trust that this
relation one has with the
62
00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,960
Divine.
This faith one has in the Divine
63
00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,520
will work in such a way that all
that happens to him, whatever it
64
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,480
may be, all that happens to him,
will not only be an expression
65
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,760
of the divine will that of
course is understood, but also
66
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880
the best that could happen, that
nothing better could have
67
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,960
happened to him, since it is the
Divine who is doing it for him.
68
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,560
This attitude is not necessarily
a part of faith, for faith does
69
00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,440
not question anything.
It does not ask what the
70
00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,800
consequence of itself giving
will be.
71
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,400
It gives itself, and that's all.
While confidence can come and
72
00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360
say that's what the result will
be.
73
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,680
And this is an absolute fact,
That is, the moment one gives
74
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,800
oneself entirely to the divine
without calculating, in a total
75
00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,240
faith, without bargaining of any
kind, one gives oneself, and
76
00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,520
then come what may, that does
not concern me.
77
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,880
I just give myself
automatically.
78
00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,360
It will always be for you in all
circumstances, at every moment,
79
00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,040
the best that will happen.
Not the way you conceive of it
80
00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,560
naturally.
Thought knows nothing.
81
00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,040
But in reality, well, there's a
part of the being which can
82
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,840
become aware of this and have
this confidence.
83
00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,640
This is something added on to
faith which gives it more
84
00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,800
strength.
A strength.
85
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,520
How shall I put it of total
acceptance and the best
86
00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,560
utilization of what happens.
End Quote reference.
87
00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320
Shrioro Bindu and the mother
looking from within.
88
00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,200
Chapter 5.
Attitudes on the Path, pages 134
89
00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,360
to 135.
00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,760
When an individual takes up the
spiritual path, he normally
2
00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,840
starts by desiring peace,
knowledge, power or some kind of
3
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,080
solace or comfort.
But what if he is actually faced
4
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,640
with an unending series of
obstacles, challenges, threats
5
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,120
and various forms of physical,
vital or mental suffering?
6
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,120
In such a case, does he maintain
his complete faith in the divine
7
00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,840
or does he begin to doubt the
Divine, the truth, the path, the
8
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,120
teaching or his own abilities to
follow it?
9
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,960
Tibet's great Yogi Milarepa
suffered from doubts as he was
10
00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,960
given hard back breaking work
that seemed meaningless, while
11
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,560
his guru gave the teachings to a
number of others without that
12
00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,800
demand.
He reached a breaking point but
13
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,880
persevered, maintained his faith
even if by a thread, and
14
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,840
eventually obtained the
teachings and the realization
15
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:12,800
that comes from practising them.
Complete faith implies complete
16
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,600
acceptance.
If we demand peace or serenity
17
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,160
or some other form of solace
from the Divine, we are
18
00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,120
bargaining, and our faith is
conditional, not absolute.
19
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,040
If we are here not for personal
experiences of peace or bliss,
20
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,280
but to participate in the great
transition to the next stage of
21
00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,880
conscious evolution, we have to
expect that the path is 1 of
22
00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,360
confronting the obstacles,
difficulties, nots, vital
23
00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,960
resistances, mental opposition,
and physical weaknesses along
24
00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,400
the way.
This is not then a path of
25
00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,240
retreat, but a path filled with
difficulties that must be faced
26
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,400
and resolved for that next
evolutionary principle to
27
00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,960
manifest.
In such a case, the existence of
28
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840
these challenges is not only
part of the path, but
29
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,680
essentially the path itself.
The faith lies then, in
30
00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,600
accepting that this is the way,
and that the Divine has given
31
00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,600
each individual who accepts this
program within himself the exact
32
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,160
challenges and issues he is both
meant to confront and eventually
33
00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,320
to resolve and overcome for the
general development of
34
00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,520
consciousness.
A disciple asks, Can't trust be
35
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,280
total and entire?
The Mother responds quote.
36
00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680
Not necessarily.
Well, there is a shade of
37
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,480
difference, however, I don't
know.
38
00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,480
It is not the same thing.
One has given oneself totally to
39
00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880
the divine work.
One has faith in it, not only in
40
00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,480
its possibility, but faith that
it is the thing which is true
41
00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,360
and which must be.
And one gives oneself entirely
42
00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480
to it without asking what will
happen.
43
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,680
And so therein or thereon may be
grafted a certitude, a
44
00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,760
confidence that one is capable
of accomplishing it, that is, of
45
00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,640
participating in it and doing it
because one has given oneself to
46
00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,800
it.
A confidence that what 1 is
47
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,360
going to do, what one wants to
do, one will be able to do.
48
00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640
That this realization one wants
to attain, one will attain.
49
00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,200
The first does not put any
questions, does not think of the
50
00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,800
results.
It gives itself entirely.
51
00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,520
It gives itself and then that's
all it is, something that
52
00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,400
absorbs 1 completely.
The other may be grafted upon
53
00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,200
it.
Confidence says yes, I shall
54
00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840
participate, realize what I want
to realize.
55
00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,960
I shall surely take part in this
work for the other.
56
00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,880
One has faith in the Divine,
that it is the Divine who is all
57
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,440
and can do all and does all, and
who is the only real existence.
58
00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,240
And one gives oneself entirely
to this faith, to the Divine.
59
00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,600
That's all.
One has faith in the existence
60
00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,800
of the Divine and gives oneself.
And there can also be grafted
61
00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,560
upon this a trust that this
relation one has with the
62
00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,960
Divine.
This faith one has in the Divine
63
00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,520
will work in such a way that all
that happens to him, whatever it
64
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,480
may be, all that happens to him,
will not only be an expression
65
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,760
of the divine will that of
course is understood, but also
66
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880
the best that could happen, that
nothing better could have
67
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,960
happened to him, since it is the
Divine who is doing it for him.
68
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,560
This attitude is not necessarily
a part of faith, for faith does
69
00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,440
not question anything.
It does not ask what the
70
00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,800
consequence of itself giving
will be.
71
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,400
It gives itself, and that's all.
While confidence can come and
72
00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360
say that's what the result will
be.
73
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,680
And this is an absolute fact,
That is, the moment one gives
74
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,800
oneself entirely to the divine
without calculating, in a total
75
00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,240
faith, without bargaining of any
kind, one gives oneself, and
76
00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,520
then come what may, that does
not concern me.
77
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,880
I just give myself
automatically.
78
00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,360
It will always be for you in all
circumstances, at every moment,
79
00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,040
the best that will happen.
Not the way you conceive of it
80
00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,560
naturally.
Thought knows nothing.
81
00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,040
But in reality, well, there's a
part of the being which can
82
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,840
become aware of this and have
this confidence.
83
00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,640
This is something added on to
faith which gives it more
84
00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,800
strength.
A strength.
85
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,520
How shall I put it of total
acceptance and the best
86
00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,560
utilization of what happens.
End Quote reference.
87
00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320
Shrioro Bindu and the mother
looking from within.
88
00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,200
Chapter 5.
Attitudes on the Path, pages 134
89
00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,360
to 135.
Apple Podcasts
Spotify
Amazon Music
RSS Feed
Castro
RadioPublic
PocketCasts
YouTube